TL;DR: The original /biz/ delegate either ran off with last

What's a delegate?

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Once we can verify that enough people voted for our new delegate, which we can do easily if people don't switch yet, we can tell everyone to unvote the first. That's the easiest way to make this switch painless. So hold tight while we work this shit out.

We're going to offer permanent 90% to anyone who gets in pre-51 no matter the bag size, and 100% for first 50 days to everyone.

After that it's gonna be between 80-100%, with 100% going to ALL bag holders who own less ARK than the average amount (which means 50% of the pool will always get a full payout, something other delegates do not offer).

fucking cunt I haven't even earned 1 ARK yet... basically lost.

I will be following this.

It seems a /pol/ack (or the original /biz/ delegate owner) stole the cash

10k ARK ready to report

So everyone just got screwed over and now we're supposed to lay our trust in a /pol/tard?

>>2622206
As we mentioned in our other thread, politics does not play into this. We are presenting our identities for full transparency so you have a reason to trust us over a faceless name like /biz/ did with Magnet. We are also techies by both lifestyle and career, so we are significantly more competent than most other nodes.

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>>2622139
In the discord will watch and switch votes

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>>2622185
my 17k are also ready.
we just lost 1 week payout. it sucks but not really a biggy.

/biz/ is acting like we all lost money on this and will FUD Ark because of this, none of us actually had money taken away. This is all just an inconvenience

>>2622206
Politics doesn't -- and shouldn't -- matter here.

The point was we'll be more transparent (and more trustworthy) than some online pseudonym because who we are is public record. If we screw you, we'll get fucked in real life.

Moon and I are also technically competent. We both have degrees in CS and cyber security.

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>>2622251

>>2622178
where do i vote god damn i was in the top 20 of the compromised one. I just want something real.

>>2622274
We'll have the new node set up before the end of the day. Sit tight.

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>>2622288

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>>2622222
Well those certainly are some quints, aren't they.

Can I get a link to the discord bros?

>>2622358
https://discord.gg/vKvJdK

Here ya go

Sheeeit I got paid out from the biz delegate last week too

Nice to see you here Chang, was a fan of you during hwndu.. I'll switch my vote tomorrow

>>2622139
for just 1000$ worth... ok if you feel smart anon...once this was a safe place for us

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sounds good

lmao hahahahhahahahaa well diserve for shilling this non stop here

>>2622251
average user lost 5 ark i would assume. biz delegate lost heaps more in the long run. prolly got hacked

>>2622516
Nobody lost anything. That's the point of ark's DPoS.

>>2622542
>average user lost 5 ark
the only thing the average user lost is the 1 Ark used to vote, that's it

Former polack here, now 100% bizreali
15K ark, let us know

>>2622583
1 to unvote and 1 to vote for this delegate

Will move my 12k

>>2622139
Ill join if and only if you pay out every 24 hours. 7 days is too tempting to run away with.

>>2622636
We're planning on doing daily but will have minimums. We may even allow users to choose how often they want to get paid since we can configure it separately for each wallet. The problem with daily is fees.

Min PAYOUT? idk because whalish nur these fees are so stupid

>>2622618
no need to even unvote technically, make new wallet, send all ark to new wallet, cheaper that way.

I'll be waiting until tomorrow to unvote for magnet.

>>2622682
Technically yeah, you save 0.9 ARK that way. If you're a small fry do this.

>>2622682

your saving will be 0.9 Ark. it cost 0.1 to move it to the new wallet and 1 to vote for the new delegate.

>>2622733
So you lose a total of 1.1 ark instead of 2 arks, still cheaper by 45%.

Daily or every other day is the only way I'll join. Small fries aren't getting anything regardless so it's stupid to cater to them.

>>2622754
already been stated that they're planning daily

biz vote count is dropping

Don't buy into another scam you stupid fucks. Even if it costs you just an ark...don't make these scamming pieces of shit rich at your expense. Fuck any delegate.

>>2622780
I already received more from forging rewards than vote fee cost and Chang is trustworthy.

>>2622780
This

>>2622161
Kinda like a taco...it's pronounced Del Gato though.

>>2622139
>People know who I am IRL

lmao

>>2622139
Just the fact that you're /pol/ folks means I'm in. I will use a percentage of my gains made in the pool to further ruin Shia LaBaouf's life should Ark take off.

What's the delegate name? Or do we not know yet

>>2622876
It's NOT up yet. It will be live in FIVE TO EIGHT HOURS.

SIT TIGHT.

>>2622876
I'm in the process of setting the new node up now.

I've been a vocal supporter of Ark since the beginning and I am telling you; DO NOT VOTE FOR THESE DELEGATES.

You are fucking idiots of the very highest order if you fall for this.

Trust in Ark but not in these jokers.

>>2622954
Who do you recommend I vote for then

>tfw you're a newfag who is actually serious about not knowing what a delegate is but everyone probably thinks you're shitposting

>>2622991

check the calculators. they will show you who will give the best return for what Ark you have

>>2622954
Yeah man, I might lose like 12 ark were they to set a pay-out/7 days and keep it after that period

>>2622991
I have no idea because i'm not trying to steal your money. Use the tools and work out your own vote, in trying to game the system with a /biz/ pool everyone got gamed in turn and these are just setting up to do the same damn thing.

>>2623023
t. Clueless Newbie who doesn't even know how ARK works

You're gonna wanna vote for whoever gives you the highest payout. That will be this pool unless we end up higher than anyone else who gives 100% payout if you're below the average ARK voter. Most delegates do not get 100%. Our incentives come from getting delegacy and encouraging whales to come in.

Delegate competition is a race to the bottom. We're at the bottom by offering the most of our potential forges to people. That's what magnet did, and he was too stupid to realize he'd make more than the measly grand he stole by playing fair. Or he got hacked; either way, his pool is not viable anymore.

>>2623070
Ok so that measly grand isn't much, fine.
So then you do the same and make a new thread with new names and do it again.

And every time you make a "Measly grand" off the people who believe you.

Anyone buying into this, I've got some lovely bridges for sale.

>>2623123
I'm not going to ruin my reputation and get stabbed in the streets of NYC by an angry voter just to steal $1000.

We're more transparent than magnet. We're actually real people with faces and real names.

>>2623123
We're allowing daily payouts for people with large bags. This will mean you will know within the day if we are scammers. The math is not difficult.

Magnet would have made more being patient instead of robbing people for fucking pennies compared to running a legitimate node.

>>2622998
Ark isn't mined, wasting wads of electricity, it's proof of stake which means they give more to the richest few, except Ark has another layer in there which lets people band together their wallets under a delegate, who gets the Ark payout and divvies it up between the voters. The top 51 delegates, judged by the collective Ark in the voters' wallets, are each rewarded 442(?) Ark each day, to be shared with the voters under terms they set up. More attractive terms gets you more voters, fucking over your voters gets you unvoted hopefully out of the top 51. Here's a current list:

https://www.arknode.net/VoteReport.txt

You should note the more Ark voted to a delegate, the less daily rewards are earned per your Ark held, as it's 442/1.2 million per Ark for biz, for example, but say 442/900k for someone further down the list.

dont fall for the biz scam meme

use arkpool or quarkpool

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FGo3FkC3uSWXGHatPQyny2brMWjAIJsHFCR-Lhkl_m0/edit#gid=0

The real question is why didnt you sell all your ARK when it was at 35ksat so you could buy back in at current prices

>>2623211
>biz pool pays out the most in every scenario

Nice one mate.

if you remove biz from the calculations you are looking at dr10 being te best for profit right now then, chris followed then ravelou and finally ghostfaceuk to give you the top four payouts right now

>>2623216
If I'd sold my ark at 35k, it would have spiked and set a new floor at 40k.

>>2623230
thats why i said which pools you should use

>>2623280
Except the new pool will pay out better. I already explained this.

>>2623287
falling for a biz scam twice

priceless

>>2623309
simbly ebin.

>>2622589
>Former polack here, now 100% bizreali
to think i wasted so much time on pol when i could be a millionaire by now..

>>2623309
I'm not forcing you or anyone to vote for us. I understand your concerns especially after what happened today.

I can only assure you that neither me or Moon Man will run off with the forged ARK and hope that our identities and addresses being public info is enough insurance to offer our voters peace of mind.

If that's not good enough for you then I understand and you don't have to vote for us.

>>2622161
a way to incentivize sybil attacks on your network

this is a very concerning development for ARK, which makes me not want to participate any more
think about it: the entire idea relies on the concept of trust and costs you 1 ARK to begin with
I'll be contacting devs tomorrow and they better do something about this like pay every anon for their original vote and last week's worth of forging
they have enough reserve and this case may make them reconsider the way system works

as for those saying it's merely a grand: what if ARK were worth $10 a pop

>>2623360
This is exactly why the DPoS exists. We found out we were scammed less than 6 hours ago and in another 6 hours we will have a trustworthy node.

The DPoS system is working exactly as intended. It isn't easy to rack up enough ARK to enter the top 51 after losing trust.

>>2622139
You pol niggers did a coup didn't you

>>2623348
Iktf
I realized shitposting online wasnt making me money
We juden nao

Magnet just showed his face. Awaiting his response, but regardless of why or how, the bottom line is he was compromised and we're setting up a more secure node.

>>2623401
Pls let us know what he said, or better yet direct him to this thread so we can hear him speak

>>2623123
You are being a huge nigger moon and chang haven't even had a chance to fuck up yet.

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This fucking guy.

i just feel sorry for there guys who arent making 1 ark/week left with a loss now

join a professional pool!

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/pol/ will collect the crypto meme money here from now on you faggots and now vote

>>2623458
Pretty much he should pay out of pocket or expect people to jump ship.

>>2623371
if this happened at a relatively low price, what makes you think it won't happen again at 5x, 10x, 100x the price?
you think people will opt to revote to another delegate who could do the very same thing? and that their vote would cost them many times more in fiat terms while they're at it
unless payout gets hardcoded into a forging node I don't think I would put my money there

>>2623360
>I'll be contacting devs tomorrow
just take the L you fucking pussy

>>2623504
I agree that this is actually a weakness in ark. I was shocked to find that payments were manually triggered by a script. It needs to be built into ARK itself.

>>2623504
dont vote for a scammy pool

just take a look how much ark a pool has forged and payed

>>2623458
Is is just me or does it sound like he's lying

>>2623546
Doesn't matter, we're about to launch the new delegate. Get your votes ready.

>>2623532
if ARK is going to be a top10 coin, delegates will beg to be in that position

member how scammy btc was in the beginning?

>>2623595
What do you mean? Building it in wouldn't change who controls the delegates. It just means you can't fuck up like magnet did.

>>2623515
you're projecting
>>2623535
and you'd know to discern between scammy and non-scammy how? anyone can socially engineer an appearance of whatever on the internet

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And the new delegate name is...

"biz_classic".

We are LIVE.

>>2623616
look for the pools with the most forged arks

>>2623636
good luck tho

>>2623608
do polo and bittrex fuck up?
imagine what they can fuck up!

its always trust until we have DEX and truly trustless systems

>>2622242
can't believe magnet ran off with only 1 weeks worth of cash. 1k? Lmao some of our portfolios are down 300k+ USD today alone, who gives a fuck about 1k?

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biz vote crash accelerating

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>>2623636
there was an error when updating the vote. has this happened to anyone else?

>>2623738
You have to UNVOTE in one tx and VOTE in another. Refresh your wallet in between.

You can only do 1 action per tx.

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>>2623738

>>2623738
unvote
quit wallet
vote

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>>2623636
how the fuck do i do this.

Whenever I try to add this with biz deselected I get the error in pic related

>>2623747
how does one unvote?

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Here we go boys.

>>2623781
unselect the voted delegate and press vote

"-biz"

>>2623791
>>2623775

Unvote "biz"
Send the transaction.
Add "biz_classic"
Send the transaction.

Has to be done in 2 tx

>>2623781
UNCHECK the box and hit VOTE.

Click on your account or navigate to another part of the wallet after sending your tx. biz should no longer be there.

Now ADD DELEGATE and type in "biz_classic".

Hit VOTE.

>>2623775
nvm figured it out - you have to close and reopen the wallet after you unvote. What the fuck lol

>>2623546
I honestly think he's telling the truth but this just means that he shouldn't have any responsibility. You'd have to be full retard to scam people when longrun profits would be so much more than what he got today.

>>2623808
the client can be messy sometimes yea

>>2623532
I do not see this as a weakness in ark because there is no expectation by ark for delegates to pay anything to those voting for them. Most of the top 51 are not shared pools.

>>2623791
I have to spend 1 ark to unvote?

>>2623841
I know that. You can implement payments to avoid fuckups like magnet's, not theft. Implement configurable payments so you can't fatfinger like he did.

>>2623850

1 ark to unvote and another to vote the new delegate

>>2623850
you can send to a different wallet and just vote from it to save .9 ark.

>>2623156
See this is why I like you...you realize that will be exactly what happens if you ran off. You know the sicko fucks of /biz-pol/ well enough to know we would track you down if you conned us. Thanks for doing the pool, thanks for being visible and known, and thanks for knowing what happens when we get screwed over.

so is everyone from the old delegate migrating to the new one ? how are we gonna get 800k otherwise ?

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>>2623910
i just did

>>2623910
That's the plan.

Last time it took 6 days. It should be faster this time since we already have a voterbase.

>>2623899
agree with this. also, chekd

>>2623932
can magnet send a mini transaction to every voter with a message that a new delegate was set up due to "security" reasons ?

The node is biz_classic NOT bizclassic. We registered both just in case someone tried to scam BUT DO NOT VOTE FOR bizclassic, VOTE WITH AN UNDERSCORE.

>>2623380
my life for the six gorillion!!!!

>>2623972
This would cost too much money. It's .1 per voter. It would cost over $350.

>>2623932
biz has a lot of little fish, myself included, and that's why they had a weekly payout. A transaction fee of 0.1 would eat my whole payout, but a weekly payout it's only ~15% of. Even if you only got biz's whales, I think you could do top 51, but I won't be voting for a delegate with daily payouts only.

>>2624000
MIN payout guys!

>>2624000
>>2624012
We will have a minimum payout!

>>2623972
how do i change votes?
unvoted biz and now won't let me vote biz_classic

>>2624027
Oh, ok. How will it work, do your payouts just build up until a threshold value?

>>2624000
We're making it configurable for users with weekly default until we have configurable payouts working.

>>2624032
nvm
restarted ark wallet and it worked

for people with my problems:
1) unvote from biz
2) restart wallet
3) vote biz_classic

https://blog.ark.io/how-to-vote-or-un-vote-an-ark-delegate-and-how-does-it-all-work-819c5439da68

>>2624032
restart your client and go back to the delegates tab. It should be empty and let you vote for biz_classic

>>2624040
yes, that's built into the payout script every delegate uses (Arky). But that also means you won't be paid while larger wallets do.

We're also going to be working on our own scripts to do what >>2624042 is saying

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>>2624053

>>2622754
But I'm a small fry. If they pay out every day I should still see much or gains, right?

I have 2700ish Ark and I'm getting ready to buy some more. If someone pays my fee I will switch to the new pool.

AZRTpvWJwZ17YjGtTMVV9uJXwPrF3q1tZx

>>2622139
>attention whoring chink mong expects people to trust him because he set up a twitter account

never trust autists, friends. especially a soulless chink autist

>>2624129
see: >>2624053

>>2624148
Better than an anonymous shitposter, no?

>>2624140
>I only have almost eleven thousand quarters I don't want to lose four of them

>>2624179
can't trust non-whites

sorry

>>2622139
I just voted for the #2 delegate, fuck you faggots

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sup tho

>>2624199
T-That's fine anon

>>2624191

>I stay in my current pool, I continue to get paid. I'm offering to help a different pool for a small token, but IDGAF either way.

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Magnet is acting like it was a minor slip up

>>2624227
>I stay in my current pool, I continue to get paid
you won't though
not with the amount of people leaving

Voting now

I trust you guys

>>2623910
>>2623930
ditto, fuck fat finger magnet...obviously incompetent and no one else is advertising to get my vote with a nice lucrative proposal. Uncle Chang you should be shilling the fuck out of this for the euros and pajeets later tonight. I want back in the top nine again.

>>2624211
I swear its a shame that pepecash isn't more popular on /biz/ I want to talk about it more but I hate telegram.

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If Magnet sends everyone a tx message telling them to switch and drops his node, people will notice and switch quickly.

Currently he is still online and forging blocks.

Considering what happened, it's unlikely he will be doing payouts again. I am currently worried he's going to run with whatever money is left after he drops out of top 51 with a bunch of blocks from this week.

>>2624562
Top 9 is actually not that good since it reduces payouts for everyone.

Somewhere in the 10s-20s is nice and comfy.

I'll make a new thread when this one dies

just voted

Let's go to the moon making pumps great again.

https://t.me/trumppumps

>>2624140
>AZRTpvWJwZ17YjGtTMVV9uJXwPrF3q1tZx

Done faggot, pay me back when we're in the top nine unless you're too much of a kike.

AXHbqJso53vhi8mEziiv5hy6ofZdfEaeMe

Voted, most of the hwndu stuff was pretty silly, but your rant was spot on Uncle Chang, you can definitely be trusted.

>>2624199
Honorary Aryan bro...WWHD?

I'll vote when I get off work tonight. when is the grandfather cutoff? I'm not trying to lose my status

>>2624590
Silly me, was hoping it paid more...i meant middle teens.... err yeah...i like middle teens.

>>2624753
When we hit #51.

>>2622139
>falling for this again

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just threw down my 8737 ARK

>>2624900
payouts are going to be daily this time if you have enough ark to matter so you'll quickly find out if they're fucking you or not.

Holding 16k Ark lads. What's the address ?

>>2624972
biz_classic is the delegate name

We're currently #57 @ 160k votes

>>2624972
biz_classic

So some faggot made a delegate named bizclassic... what is his endgame?

Can't possibly hope to siphon enough votes to amount to anything worthwhile, so its purely aimed at damaging this new pool. Should probably spread this info immediately to avoid confusion.

Okay. Magnet has gone from being cooperative to taunting us.

He has been claiming to have a plan and telling us to "wait" while we try to switch to a node that is functioning.

He is still forging blocks and seems to have no intention of handing over the node so we could do a clean exit for the 'biz' node. The only reason he could have for this is to run away with the blocks he is forging from now until we drop him out of top 51. He even had the possibility of transferring over control of the node permanently but he did nothing but tell us to wait and to stall while playing the victim.

Switch your fucking votes. I don't care if it's to something else. biz_classic is taking off. Switch to something not biz related if you want.

Just. Fucking. Switch. He's going to be stealing every single block he is currently forging. Don't get caught with your pants down.

>>2625026
"bizclassic" is registered by one of us on the discord. They sent a tx to biz_discord telling people to vote there instead. It's fine.

>>2625026
>>2625054
adding onto this, the specific reason for making it is to grab the name before a malicious actor did.

>>2624978
>>2624977
Thx. Voted

>>2625051
what the hell happened?
I don't see his messages in the discord

2ark won't return me anything right

10k ARK moved to biz_classic

>>2625121
Discord auto-deletes messages when someone leaves, is kicked, or is banned.

He resorted to staling and posting bullshit platitudes when we kept asking him what he was going to do. "Wait" "I'm not a thief", "Give me time" was all we got from him. We asked him to at least pause his node while he was thinking, and he ignored all direct questions. He gave us nothing but meme responses or stalling victim garbage. Anyone from the discord can corroborate.

The longer we allowed him to stall and feed misinformation to voters, the more free money he was receiving from forging. Our hope is that people will now switch over and stop giving him free money. As long as he is in the top 51 he is making 422 ARK daily, for free. He made it clear he had no intention of doing what was fair or what had to be done to move over the delegacy to someone who knew how to run a node.

We had a discord vote, which ended in him being banned for doing nothing but spamming and telling us to "wait" while he forged free ARK for himself.

We're moving on to creating biz_classic and making it the node biz should have been originally.

>>2625124
it costs one to vote, propably not worth it for you, except you can wait a year

>>2625079
Yea I figured, you guys are on top of everything, and responsive!

biz is dead, long live biz_classic!

>>2625216
although I 100% believe you how are we supposed to prove this to the other anons on /biz/ without screenshots?

>>2625257

the fuck is there to prove? it's payday and the ARK is out of his wallet

put 2 and 2 together, he dun goofed

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>>2625026
https://explorer.ark.io/tx/e5b200289f73c4f4d81e5afa3aa1caa1de25eebedaa930d5adae6fcfb4c55158

dont worry, see the Vendor field

>>2625257
Come into the discord and ask anyone you like. Even if I'm lying, the blockchain doesn't lie. His node sent an entire week's worth of payment to a whale. Over $1,000 up in smoke that he owed to his pool, instead either maliciously or (most likely) accidentally sent to some whale with over 100k in their wallet.

No matter the outcome or reason, the proof of his incompetency is public knowledge.

>voting for some random biz anon and not jarunik.
why does biz do this?

>>2625287
I am in the discord, and I do 100% believe you, I'm just worried about convincing more anons to leave the old group and join the new one

small fish 780ark here. but i unvoted the fag for being a total jew.

>>2625306

and if this delegate doesn't work out, you can unvote and vote for another

if $2 is too much to risk for you in crypto, pick another place to make money

ARK is legit and DPoS is proving itself right now with how easy it is to toss out a scammer

Well that sucks. I was delegating 14k Ark to him

So glad I changed my vote to biz_classic after seeing how Magnet reacted to this situation. Either he was malicious about it or he was grossly incompetent. Either way I am not voting for someone like that. I suggest everyone else change their votes as well.

>>2623156
Time stamp, please?

We're now 33% of the way to #51. To sit comfortably we need double that, but it's a good start given how fast we moved. ~200k in votes so far.

>>2625388
https://twitter.com/UncleChangNYC/status/879405115031126017

Or just google "uncle chang hwndu"

>>2625336
>if $2 is too much to risk for you in crypto, pick another place to make money
why the fuck do you think that's what I'm talking about?

>>2625388
>>2625398
He's at work. Check the twitter. He'll post a real photographed timestamp in a few hours once he gets home.

>>2625395
I accidentally the math. That's to get #52. We need another 200k on top to get 51

>>2625366
Bring it over to biz_classic so we can get our node up and running ASAP, with a competent delegate this time. Magnet came up with the idea but he can't be trusted with the responsibility, I've been lurking the discord channel for a while and Moon Man & Uncle Chang were the ones doing most of the heavy lifting anyway. The node will be in good hands with these guys.

>>2625406

not saying it to you personally, but anyone who is fearful of switching delegates

it's a minute fee for the possibility of good gains, low risk with decent reward for just sitting on your stash

the only risk is your vote, which you can retract at any time... nothing really to be hesitant about considering these are known(ish) people setting up the new node

>>2622139
Wasn't there a video of this scrawny asian firing his lip about racism and donald trump on youtube?

I remember cringing

>>2625490
Found it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI-VD2bgGeM

I sent over my 6k, sad to hear magnet screwed this up

We're at #55. Spread the word and lets get this biz node back on track.

>>2625490
Wew Lad. If it's him I'm in. Waiting on timestamp.

>>2625551
Yea, I think he made a genuine mistake. Shame, really. Thanks for your vote though.

>>2625569
I'm at work atm. Is my twitter not good enough? You can cross reference it with various articles that have been written about HWNDU/my speech.

>>2625569
It's kinda retarded. I mean he's partially right but it seems like he's fallen into the same trap as the nutty liberals with his dogmatic support for Trump.

just went out of biz and to bi classic with 4k Ark.. Hope OP delivers

wait so i have to change my vote now? wtf happened to the biz delegate?

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>>2625569
It's him. One of the reasons he's running the new node is because his identity is public so he wouldn't be able to get away with running off with the node rewards.

>>2625587
A lot of us are less Trump supporters and were more anti-Hillary. Almost nobody still believes Trump isn't a moron.

Either way, this isn't the thread for that.

>>2625587
I'm more on the center desu.

I don't support everything Trump has done. But at the end of the day, I believe Hillary would've been worse.

>>2625599
>TL;DR: The original /biz/ delegate either ran off with last week's forged ARK or he got keylogged and had the forge stolen.

how often do you plan to pay out? also every week as paying out too often might cut the profits a lot due to the fees

>>2625604
It kinda is the thread for that because you tied your identity to the project. You can't expect people not to background search you. I'll take that answer anyway

10 more votes just switched to classic.

>>2625615
Daily payout WITH threshold so it will only be daily if it isn't a significant part of your profits taken by the fee, otherwise it will pay out after a certain amount.

>>2625620
I meant the thread to argue politics. Feel free to look into our identities, that's what we want so people can trust us.

>>2625587
>>2625620
What are you going on about?
>>2625602
I understand, just some solid proof would be a lot more assuring, I don't doubt its him, amazed actually.

>>2625613
shieeet well thanks bruh. i am holding about 2100 right now...gotta switch that shiz over somewhere new

>>2625629
My advise is that you do not spread this outside of /biz/ like Magnet the retard did. He diluted the pool due to his impatience and greed. Don't do that.

>>2625629
alright thanks and you said you have experience in cyber security.. is your account safe enough from getting attacked too?

>>2625648
I don't plan on it.

>>2625662
We are both technically competent enough to run a crypto node on a linux box.

>>2625648
ALL delegates make the SAME amount no matter what their position is - #1 or #51. What #1 gives you is SECURITY that one whale switching won't completely knock you out of the top 51, because then you made 0 ARK.

However, it DOES hurt the voters. We're going to attempt to keep it in /biz/ as long as we have the numbers to hit ~#30 where we're mostly safe from being knocked out from one whale switch.

>>2625662
Chang is hosting it on his home xeon server with gigabit uplink. It is a dedicated machine running in a sandboxed environment.

I'm tasked with VPN'ing that server along with setting up a redundant AWS node tonight in case his ever goes down for any reason at all.

>>2625672
alright great hope you'll make it and stay at a high ranking! Maybe try to post on other forums too like the biz delegate did to get more people?

>>2625676
Yes I am saying that he diluted the pool with too many non-biz voters.

This doesn't affect me, I pulled out of Ark a week ago. I'm saying this for others who are foolish enough to still be in Ark

>>2625676
Not the nerds biz voters wanted...but the nerds biz_classic needed.

get in boys. /pol/ is always right

>>2625648
Too late, someone already made a bitcointalk post about it.

>>2625676
>>2625672

One question that came up on the original /biz node was how to handle "delegate hoppers" (people who jump on biz_classic when forging) in the payout scheme?

>>2625771
Arky, the payout script used by most delegates, takes that into account.

We weren't aware of that at the time which is why were discussing it. But that's an issue that's solved now.

Arky calculates "fidelity" which is a payout modifier based on how long a wallet's been in that pool and the balance of that wallet over time.

>>2622184
Im drunk but id give you 5 ark to change

>>2625793
I'm high as fuck and I already changed my vote over. Though I did that before I got this high so I guess I sorta cheated.

>>2625793
give me 5 ark and I'll join biz_classic

AZRTpvWJwZ17YjGtTMVV9uJXwPrF3q1tZx

>>2625850
Nah we don't need poor fags, if you can't afford less than $2 to vote, get out

>>2622139
it gives me an invalid timestamp error, what do?

>>2625905
Make sure your computer's time is set correctly.

I'll switch over tonight after work, if magnet doesn't have my payout in my wallet by then.

>>2625927
He literally lost it. You can see he sent $1,000 to a random whale wallet this morning. He can't pay you, the money isn't there.

>>2625927
Looks like he is switching to hourly payments to try and keep people. Don't fall for the scam. Switch to biz_classic.

I only have a little under $200 ARK, but for what
it's worth I have switch my votes.

I have faith in Ark, furthermore I have faith in biz_classic.

>>2625958
What he's doing isn't possible. If you check the payment amounts, he's paying a lot less than he should, and if he's doing hourly you lose 0.1 * voter amount per transaction. It's literally impossible to do this, he would burn more on fees than he forges. He's fucking given up and is now stealing from people under the ruse that he's helping.

>>2625940
>>2625927
He's doing hourly payments now to get people to stay. Don't fall for it folks.

I'M ALL IN

SIEG HEIL UNCLE CHANG

Transaction ID efe4cd13c7297da2876eee8504a2ac6311d11ca366d7e68d8dacbf3f538932e5

APBjtTwJeKSgfYY7u7XGxN3cLt8QANnbkj

>>2625978
>>2625980
>>2625958
can't believe I stuck up for him at first and said he probably just fucked up bad instead of pulled a scam, its obvious that he's scamming now.

>>2625980
>hourly payouts
>now instead of paying .1 ARK in fees for a week's worth of payouts you're paying 16.8 ARK a week in fees alone
What a great idea to get people to stay!

>>2626018
I don't think you understand how this works

Moved vote to biz_classic.

https://explorer.ark.io/tx/959e56c28e6765b2c23b3c364851f53b51dcf49c4038a6dc87337bbad3fc2a52

Let's do this.

>>2626018
That's per person.

>>2626045
I don't think you do. Every time you receive a payout, 0.1 ARK is removed from your payout amount as a transaction fee. By making hourly payouts rather than weekly payouts, you're paying 168x the amount of fees in a week.

>>2626045
>>2626107
Let's assume that he's giving everyone the correct amount(he's probably not) eating that much in transfer fees you'd be better off in any 90% node than eating all those fees in a 100% node.

wtf im getting an error when trying to unvote from that faggot thief

>>2626123
I'm really confused. I'm saying that it's a bad idea to keep your vote with him, which also seem to be what you're saying.

>>2626159
Error: Failed to remove vote, account has not voted for this delegate

>>2626159
close your wallet then restart it, then vote again

>>2626037

>>2626171
Restart your wallet. It means you unvoted for him but for some reason it doesn't refresh until you restart.

>>2626166
I'm not arguing with you, I'm adding onto why people should vote biz_classic instead of biz.

>>2625715
underrated post

>>2626185
thank you

Fuck it man, I switched.

But if you fuck with my nut I'll eat your dick like a piece of Kobayashi beef

>>2625051
Sad part is:
Magnet could have intended everything 100%, and it might have been a 100% legitimate mistake he made.
But when hundreds of other peoples' dollars on the line, one fuck up is too many.

Get it right, or get lost.

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>>2626414

>>2625216
Literally the only thing that might save him would be paying out of his own pocket, for his own fuckup.

im in this now, old biz guy only paid once since we got old biz to the top tens

so basically ARK is at the mercy of node operators not being huge dicks and stealing money of the delegates. sounds great.

>>2625607
Iktf

>>2626469
that way none of the nodes are run by retards. cause as we see here, when you fuck up, you fuck it up for everyone, and you in turn get fucked too

>>2626469
Basically, yea. Unless AIP10 gets implemented where delegate payouts are done as part of the protocol.

Until then, I'm leveraging my "semi-public e-fame" to help gain voters' trust. I'm not looking to get hunted down and stabbed in the streets of New York by an angry voter just to steal $1000.

>>2626469
once ARK rises and the stakes get higher, this shit will never happen. losing a spot in the top 51 won't be worth stealing

>>2625587
there are very few "dogmatic" trump supporters. We are actually very rational people with jobs.

>>2626492
Exactly.

One fuck up for everyone is one fuckup too many

>>2626541
the people following Trump like a cult of personality are The_Donald. That's it. Even "alt-right" has been criticizing most of his recent moves.

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>Uncle Chang
>Moon Man
Literally fucking who

>>2626718
http://archive.is/DiJYG

https://m.fbook.com/story.php?story_fbid=840123842792179&id=423006854503882&refsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com%2Fmyiannopoulos%2Fvideos%2F840123842792179%2F

Look up "hwndu"

>>2626718
http://archive.is/DiJYG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5-Zp-RSPX8

Also the ones that have been handling all of the tech stuff and been walking magnet through shit if you've been on the discord.

>>2626718
>>2626815
Pretty much this.

Shia LaBeouf had some anti-trump art project going on where he stuck a 24/7 live stream camera onto a wall.

I showed up and said some stuff. It went viral. Did some interviews with media. The Washington Post doxxed me.

That's it really. I'm not trying to attention whore or anything. I'm just attaching a public face (my own) to the delegate node as a way of gaining trust because it would not be in my interest to screw anyone as it'll harm my reputation and possibly end up in me getting physically hurt.

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bump

>>2626868
Just switched to biz_classic with a few thousand ARK.

Can confirm I will spend this on plane ticket and baseball bat if OP is a magnet faggot

>>2626879
I love them tan skinned waifus

>>2622139
>delegate is compromised
Like real life voting systems / democracy. Fuck coins with voting. They are worthless.

I don't even know what this system ark is supposed to do, but I already know that something is wrong with it.

>>2627100
unlike regular politics you can rescind your vote after the fact when the person betrays what they said.

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fool me once, shame on you
fool me twice, shame on me

now that i think about it, i was retarded for voting for someone from this website in the first place

i wish you all luck though

>>2627147
Idk
By the sound it was not intentional
But accidents with others' money has no excuse

Just unvoted Biz, and moved my vote to biz_classic

I'll be just fine with weekly payouts btw. Don't care, as long as my profits aren't ruined by fees :)

>>2627100
Actually this whole thing made me believe in the ARK system even more. If the node fucks over everyone, you just revote and they lose their spot in the top 51. Not in the top 51 = no more forging for them.

>>2627680
this

>>2625927
I checked my wallet, 0.02 ark isn't enough to keep me, last week's was 0.8. Motherfucker gives me a fucking penny? Switched to biz_classic.

>>2627680
>ark ends up hitting 20$ in the future
>have to spend 40$ to revote
epin

He's 80k ark from not forging anymore.

are you idiots seriously trusting 4chan with your money? wtf?

>>2628144
>id: 1 question. Fuck, good luck!

>>2628144
>doesnt understand the system at all
dont fucking do it then, faggot

>>2622139
Obviously ran off with it. From the very beginning it was clear he was a scam artist. Every single part of his trash thread made it obvious.

How do I take advantage of this and make money?

>>2622178
That's a very solid plan. I'm assuming you're using part of the holdout to cover the transaction fees?

>>2628200
This ended up being too complicated for most people and they just unvoted and revoted.

The magnet fag is almost off the charts, 80k more ARK and he's done. We're at #54 now.

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>>2628220
Holy shit that was fast. 40k more ark and biz faggot is gone.