Does anyone here actually make a living online? I can't

>>1959175
Sure man.
Stock market.
Robinhood is free.

>>1959194
>consistently
>stock market
pick one

>>1959202
well I made 10k in the last 2 market days.. but that's fair.
have to get good at it first.

it isn't gambling.

>>1959205
not that anon, but which resources/books would you recommend that I go through before starting with the stock market?

How much (minimum) would one need for initial investments?

>>1959219
can start with nothing, paper trade as a means of practice
dude I just youtubed videos, youtube can teach you about anything in the world

here is a community great place to learn, but you will be kicked if you don't eventually learn TA or FA and improve yourself.

heres a link
https://discord.gg/ZxrzK

>>1959194
This is literally the absolute worst advice on the planet.

Why not tell him to go to the casino and put it all on black?

It's exactly the same.

>>1959224
thanks

>>1959205
So you watched a couple youtube videos, had luck and now you think you are a badass.
Enjoy lossing your gains.
ps: TA is a meme. Id rather trade cryptos because of the crazy fluctuations. Ive made money myself there and I dont rule out it's more than 50% luck and the rest is skill.

>>1959230
>>1959240
Hey dumbasses
There are 4chan guys in the room I posted alone, who are up 75 to 600% over the year.
In no way is it gambling.
You create your strategy

>>1959245
Im up 300% this year with crypto because I was holding a decent amount of PIVX

Does this make me a genius?

Cmon, I want to have something I can rely on, not fucking around with charts.

I want an online business or blog or something that gives me revenue, not looking at charts, drawing lines and hope the market does what I expect.

>>1959194
there is no way to use robinhood if you are not from burgerland, right?

i guess i will stick to crypto shilling

> make YouTube series featuring your hot sister in bikini with plenty of click bait , the plot of the series leads to her making her first porno.
>Market it via other YouTubers having her in their videos and other cheap but effective methods of gaining viewers
> After 3 - 6 months of this channel growing film a porno with her.
> Charge $50 for the full porno
>profit.

I'm 19 and make 5-10k a month with my e-commerce store and don't see why this wouldn't work unless YouTube fucks you over.

>>1959278
Dude what's your point. It's not about being a genius.
It's about mathematical probability

>>1959301
>I make 5-10k with e-commerce but here is my useless meme advice instead

daytrading

>>1959413
It isn't useless meme advice at all. I guarantee you that this would easily make a few thousand per month passively following a huge revenue spike on release if the channel was marketed well.

>>1959175
I make $1500 a week through audiobook narration.
I make an additional $1200 a month through patreon

>>1959442
I don't have a fucking hot sister, and I can't hire a escort to make daily videos. And I dont want to be famous I just want money, so tell me how did you create your 5-10k a mont with your e-commerce store from scratch.

>>1959660
Is this something anyone can do?

>>1959660
Tell me more? I more or less speak for a living (youtuber, but my income barely pays the bills) and people always tell me I should "do audiobooks" and other things, as they like my voice. I think this is something I could pull off.

How much investment in hardware does it need (I already have some for YT) and what sort of websites/avenues do you use?

Here are your options:

>>1959175
>tell me your secrets on how you make passive income so I can become competition and dilute your earnings

Yeah no nigga. That fact you even think someone will tell you if you ask means you've failed already. A Jew does not reveal his bag of tricks.

>>1959753
+1

>>1959696
Yes actually. ACX.com allows anyone to narrate for Amazon audiobooks. There's about 2500 titles at any given time. Most of them are trashy createspace pieces, but they're a good place to start your voice career. Books on Tape and similar "professional" services take the really big books like Harry Potter and Game of Thrones.
Just create an account, upload some samples and do some auditions. Its that simple. I personally started in October 2015. Since then I've narrated 70 books and worked my way up from royalty share to $35/hr to $50/hr to $75/hr and now $100/hr.
I always say. Anyone CAN do it.

>>1959703
A yeti blue, a closet, and audacity will get you started, but to get past the $100/PFH mark and really be somebody you'll need to upgrade.

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>>1959858
>$100/hr

>>1959891
Yeah, but its Per Finished Hour (PFH)

So after everything is recorded, edited, mastered, and revised.

So for me (1.3 years into this game) it takes 2 hours to record 1 hour of raw footage. You spend the whole time sitting doing take after take. Sometimes the writing style is especially terrible and you spend 3-4 hours per hour of footage.

After that, it takes about an hour to edit and master an hour of footage. If you listen to it for errors, that's an extra hour. I always leave the final proof-listen to the author.

Then if there are mistakes, you have to go back and record, edit, and master those.

So although I'm making $100 PFH, I'm really making about $35/hr of actual work. Of course that's without using my education.

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>>1959914
>mfw ACX.com is not available in canada

>>1959914
How long did it take you get from $35/hr per finished hour to $100. Do people pay higher wages when you have narrated a number of books? Or are you allowed to narrate more important news as you get account points or something?

>>1959950
Its mostly practice.
As you narrate more and learn how to make your narration sound better and your editing sound more fluid (breath work and such) authors become more confident in your skills.

Throwing in an audition is ALWAYS worth it, no matter how high the book's wage.

>>1959930
well fuck me all of this only shit is american only

>>1959753
>a couple lazy NEETs that will read this thread will damage my earnings
This is how LARPers cope.

>>1959202
>what are reliable dividend paying stocks. If your making 1k a month off dividends then you cant get a whole lot more reliable than that. Day trading is another story. I'm currently making around $200 a month off dividends.

>>1959858
Not anyone. My voice is shit and monotonic.

>>1961364
>implying you dont need a ton of money to invest in the couple stocks that will not crash overnight to get 1k a month off dividends

>>1961364
>what are reliable dividend paying stocks
What ARE reliable dividend stocks indeed?
the mean yield for S&P500 is ~4% (http://www.multpl.com/s-p-500-dividend-yield/) so lets count:
to get 1k a month you would need around 300k and thats ignoring the quaterly payout period thats common for most stocks (meaning an uneven cash flow)

So if you got 300k youre not using then its easy ofc

>>1959914
http://www.acx.com/ss#keywords=&pageIndex=1

How do you compete with all these narrators?

Any tips on educating myself into /biz/ without going to actual uni?

Is there any /biz/ sticky?

>>1959175
I make a shitload just running staking for PIVX and NEM while I jerk off to hentai brah.

NEET life is best life

>>1961477
Sure.

So there's 56k samples and about 20k narrators registered with the site.Gender split is about even. Most of them are terrible. Many stopped years ago because they couldn't get any jobs.

At any given time, there are 2500 books for audition. 45% of them exclusively for female narrators. 45% of them are exclusively for male narrators.
Of the 1200 books for each gender at any time, about 100 of them are paid. The others are royalty share. You get 20% of each sale. Create space books sell for about $3-5. A 15 hour book will sell for around $20.

I'd guess 80% of people who sign up never got a job. If they did. they probably got a shitty createspace piece and made maybe $2.50 in royalties.

So that leaves a small percentage of people who are constantly auditioning for jobs.
The $100-$1000 PFH get scooped up by the real professionals, people who use audiobooks are their sole source of income and/or are trained/ TV and Radio experienced voice actors.

Personally, I got approached by a publishing house to do books exclusively for them.
Now that I've been doing it for a long time and I have a ton of samples, authors reach out to me or just send me offers without an audition.
If you sound good, have good editing, and build your brand. You will make it.

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>>1961517

>>1961569

Thanks

Time to do a whole bunch of drugs and catch a cold to

>>1959205
He has 0 control over his fynds ans his money is 100% riding on the emotions of others.
>not gambling

>>1959660
Wat

I made an affiliate website.

I currently get 0 dollars a month. Anyone can do this.

>>1962127
You said it yourself
You have to be an emotion reader aka psychologist.
You are literally better prepared for stock trading with psy degree than any business/finance degree.

>>1961528
manigga

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Another VoiceAnon here.
I've """worked""" as a:

>MC, TM, PS, KNS, VA, and Presenter.

Currently gunning for some audiobook auditions for dem royalties. Also do some editing on the side for peeps.

It's a tough game; every mong and their dog think they can "Just talk", and then I'm forced to listen to their nose-breathing, p-popping, lip-smacking, throat clearing, um-ah-ing shit-fight of a recording.

However, I've also learnt what my MVP is: Hentai.
Yes. Cartoon (2D/3D) porn. Whilst """aficionados""" might be able to critique the sound quality, for most when the dick is on the ears are off or focused on the juicy fluid noises.
The flip side is that if the sound is too low quality it makes it unfappable. Like you're missing out on 50% of the good brain-tricking stuff.

>t. someone who literally sucked bananas for a dollar.

>>1962587
What do you do about mouth clicks?

>>1962141
Underrated advice right here. Businesses come and go, economies change, but human nature remains the same.

>>1959930

The site is (browsing from Europe), and I saw nothing in there restricting stuff to the US only.

Where's a mention of US-only requirements? Nothing I found in the site or FAQ section pointed at that.

>>1962760
You have to put American or british adress to create account

>>1962778

Figures...
Thanks anyway. Still, the filtering for the books mentions other languages like Spanish, French and German - probably a very small portion of the whole thing, but if it ever grows, looks like they're crippling themselves by avoiding native countries for those languages, even if their get some expats and bilinguals...

>>1959858
I have a deep but fairly clean Scottish accent, and I've been asked to narrate someone's Youtube video before. Are they looking for US/RC voices only?

>>1961569

>biz education
>capital by karl marx

>>1962599
>What do you do about mouth clicks?
Practice speaking in a way so as to reduce them, OR go all out as a Character and click away.
Try to do them away from mic.
Get a pop-filter.
Reduce in post.

>>1959175
I'm the rare professional cryptocurrency speculator who isn't LARPing and occasionally comes here to shitpost.

I make more than Googlecucks at this point. :D

desu sitting in my bedroom reading all day about tech is lonely as fuck even when I get out to 2 or 3 meetups a week.

I recommend getting a real job with an actual social life over retiring young. /greenergrassfallacy

>>1963046

How old are you? How did you get to where you are?

Just graduated from a top CS school but I want to get to a point of financial independence ASAP, even if I choose to keep working for fulfillment I never want to be stuck.

>>1963052
22

I read obsessively, mostly tech stuff, and mostly current stuff with a healthy dose of whatever my latest momentary obsession is. Have been doing this since I got a decent internet connection right before my teenage years. I also spend a lot of time sitting around and thinking about different possibilities for how things might work in the near future.

I grew up with moderately autistic and somewhat unstable parents who pretty much left me alone to do whatever I wanted. Ended up in me being creative, paranoid, and an abnormal risk tolerance profile.

I graduated from a second-tier CS school.

Easiest advice I can give is get good at getting good at whatever the latest trends are that you're at all interested in, then start or go to relevant meetups and events to network based on them. You'll get tons of great opportunities in things that interest you with relatively little effort. Pair that with being as cheap as possible without significantly harming yourself / your opportunities and you can easily save up enough to very modestly retire in 5 to 10 years.

tl;dr: Be a jack of all trades, an opportunist, and a cheapass.

>>1963092

How did you get to the point you are, financially? I've identified some meetups in my area and I'm going to start attending as soon as I can afford a car. I've done some crypto currency with chump change ($50) and made about 200% but I don't know if it's sustainable. Do you just speculate or do you do software engineering stuff as well?

I'm already extremely cheap and I plan on remaining that way until I have a good stockpile, but given that you're only 22 it seems you didn't do the work for 10 years and retire method.

>>1963098
When BTC and ETH showed up I was one of the only people around who could wrap my head around them. Mostly mined BTC, then bought ETH.

Nowadays cryptocurrency as a whole is too saturated to easily pick out future winners as someone with a high level of expertise in the space.

It took me about 6 years to retire from when I started actually making money.

If you don't already have capital to throw around, then speculate based on your time instead by spending it on high-value skills, which is what I did with building a general understanding of cryptocurrency as well as getting into early mining.

At this point I'm going into more software engineering so I can cash in more directly on trends I like, and since sitting around reading all day has gotten old compared to working out problems for myself.

Again, if you don't have much capital, focus on whatever skills you find interesting, useful, and trendy, then network. I learned the hard way that there are tons of opportunities doing that when I let people down by trying to chase too many at once.

>>1963178

I've done a lot of reading and some work in machine learning/AI, it feels like it already is a valuable field and will become more so in the future but also seems like something I'd need to get hired for to profit from on a significant scale.

Do you have an email or some other form of communication? I'm interested in learning more.

>>1963190
So get hired and save up until you're independent?

Another possibility with ML/AI right now is probably becoming a consultant for mid-size companies. Could get your foot in the door by working for free a bit so you have good case studies to make up a work portfolio. There are way too many businesses out there who have no clue how much they're missing out on things that'd be obvious to a machine being fed the right data.

I'm really not sure what else I'd have to say and I'm only here because I'm procrastinating on filing taxes. If you want to reach me then email [email protected] and I might reply in-between bouts of filing taxes. It's a website I registered for trolling purposes since a company linked to it as an example for unregistered domains being redirected to advertisements at the ISP level. You can probably guess what I redirected it to.

>>1963092
>get good at getting good at whatever

this is key. this is what got me into making a living drawing hentai, then making a living programming, then making a living combining that making adult games, then making a living with crypto. if one nurtures and trains neuroplasticity, sky's the limit. once you've gotten good at a few things entirely autodidactically, you can conquer the world. my next goal is to learn russian and start some kind of non-online business.