BITCOIN ETF GENERAL #3 - 100x PANIC EDITION

Well, now that we're all fucked wat do?

first for mad gainz

RIP BITCOIN
LONG LIVE ETHEREUM

pizzagate is real

LMAO COINERS BTFOOOOOOOOOO AHAHAHAHAHA

>>1848423
Now we buy the dip ya dip.

Oh, memecoiners, when will you learn that your memes will never be reality

>>1848423
Buy ethereum and take it to the moon like we did with bitcoin

>>1848423

for one, we tell everyone for the rest our lives never to use coinbase or poloniex

>>1848425
I dumped my BTC and bought DASH

wish me luck

Posting in epic thread
I was there when BTC crashed
We will fondly remember this

kraken DOWN

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>there are algos that bought the dead cat

LOL fucking chinks

This isn't even the dip yet!

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>>1848423
It's Ogre

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHUbLv4ThOo

Wtf is happening?

>>1848438
kek why buy at the top of DASH pump?

This is the first dip I haven't ridden in months, this is a very special feeling in my tummy.

IT'S PUMPING AGAIN

IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER x100

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>TO THE MOON, THEY SAID!

>>1848440
my cryptowatch interface still updates
wish me luck when Ill try to actually buy

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>>1848435

Those fucking faggots at Poloniex are now my eternal enemy.

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>mfw just set up my coinbase account yesterday

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i cant believe KEK was right again
im talking of course about the people rolling for dubs last thread

its seriously spooky guys

KEK is real

investing solely based on gets from now on

anyone else not able to use coinbase?

>>1848440
Gemini is still fine, fast as ever.

I'm getting my shit out of coinbase and never looking back.

>>1848458
yeah I am unable to log in to GDAX

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OP of original thread

Daily reminder that you all missed the best buy opportunity of all time on the dip.

We will NEVER see three figures again.

SolidX WILL be approved and 10k by end of the Summer.

>>1848458
Can't login. Really fucking mad right now.

>>1848447
DASH is the future of cryptocurrency

mark this post

>>1848468
the dip hasn't even started yet, silly.

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>>1848457

Dude...... I was actually thinking the same thing. Spooky right? Kek's will be done.

BTC to go down to $750

>>1848438
Enjoy your -50% gains buying at the top of a declining pump you plonker.

The spike is only because BTC plummeted.

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>Tfw Gemini is running just fine

What the fuck is this $1000 bullshit? I was promised bitcoin @$300

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DIP?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>1848478
i asked kek
it's coming

>>1848478
I guess this crash was anticipated.

It's different when the crash hits out of nowhere.

>>1848478
be patient

1000€ mark seems to be the end of the dip here on Kraken. Also I was able to buy some, but the cryptowatch interface went out for a few seconds.

Do we buy the dip or buy eth?

>>1848492
i got DASH and ETH since they'll probably be the benefactors of BTC love fading

99℅ of bitcoin holders are fucking white males

A majority of the SEC are literal kikes who hate the idea of white men in control of their own money, is it any wonder it was declined?

Take a look at SEC.gov website, a nigger couple on the front page. Typical nigger loving Jews saying no to the white man in control of his own money. They can't shut it down though and they can't stop the inevitable price going through the fucking roof

This isnt a dip worth buying,there might be a bigger dip on the way once news spreads.

Dip-bought at 1070€ ten minutes ago

>>1848457
PRAISE KEK
LONG LIVE ETHEREUM

I'm having a panic attack

Tell me everything's gonna be alright /biz/

>>1848435
What happened at poloniex?

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>>1848498
>>1848499
Both of you

How long will coinbase be down? Does they shut down often?

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Coinbase STILL NOT FUCKING WORKING.

This shit is unacceptable. They are literally keeping people from using the website right now.

It's at times like this that I'm glad I don't trade bitcoin, just hodling.

>>1848501
Now is your chance to buy faggot

>>1848507
They always go down during big moves

>>1848510
Gonna crash even harder once they come online and all the panic sells go through.

>>1848501
>Tell me everything's gonna be alright /biz/
it will if you're willing to just hold (possibly for several months) and not panicsell or dipbuy

>>1848515
delete this

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>>1848497

>>1848454
i can use poloniex

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>>1848492
ETH
only coin today that isn't down in $ value

I put all my savings into BTC

fuck my life

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>>1848513
people are scrambling to move their coins and sell, but the network is too congested because the blockchain is broken

give it a few hours, this puppy has only just started

https://blockchain.info/unconfirmed-transactions
https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-size?timespan=24h

>>1848515
God i hope so.

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WAIT DID IT GET REJECTED... source

>>1848497
99% of bitcoin is in china baby

>>1848521
Why would you put your savings in bitcoin at a moment a yes/no coin toss was about to happen?

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DO NOT BUY THIS DIP YOU FUCKING MOUTHBREATHERS

THE FIRST DIP GOT BOUGHT BY ALGOS.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS PRICE DISCOVERY, THERE IS HEAVY BUYING AT ~$1060

$1100 IS NOW RESISTANCE AND LOOKS LIKE IT HASN'T FOUND A BOTTOM

IF THIS LEVEL CAN'T HOLD WE WILL RETEST THE LOWS OF UNDER $975

THIS AREA WE ARE AT IS NOT STABLE.

If you have any fucking cash left, BUY

THE

DIP

>>1848521

This is incident #254357 for Bitcoin, it'll cope. Also don't go all-in on anything so speculative unless all-in is $500.

Wow ETH glad i just went all in

>>1848525https://www.sec.gov/rules/sro/batsbzx.htm

CANT SIGN IN TO CB TO BUY DIP

FUCKING SCAM

>>1848525
Just kikes being kikes, nothing new.

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>>1848527
No.
See pic, the Chinese 90+% volumes were always bullshit.

>>1848530
kys fucking fiat fag, buy the dip now

>>1848411
It's just gonna slowly drift back up to at least $1150.

Sorry nocoiners.

Everyone who isn't a fucking retard had sold everything weeks ago because it was too risky.

I've seen lot of people (including myself) advising that. The ones who not sold are just retarded.

>>1848543
I'm not believing shit until coinbase is back up and all those panic sells can go through.

>>1848544
I'm still holding. My average price is high 500's so I'm still in the green by a good margin.

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is now a good time to buy bitcoin?

COINBASE IS BACK UP

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BROS
>GEMINI.COM
>GEMINI MEANS TWINS IN LATIN

WILL THESE BASED HANDSOME BOYS SINGLE-HANDEDLY FLY ETH AND BTC HODLERS TO THE MOON?

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>>1848530
this, do not buy

once ppl can move their coins it's gonna go off the deep end
https://blockchain.info/charts/mempool-count?timespan=24h

>>1848544
Not selling my bitcoins because of a $200 drop you fucking fiat cuck,im in this ride till the bitter end.

>>1848557
No it isnt

>>1848557
nop

still cant log in to GDAX

This dip is garbage so far

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HEAVY SPIKE INCOMING WEATHERED THE STORM.

SHOULD BE OK UNLESS SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS

Green candles, buy time?

>>1848557
Pos

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dubs and it will dip to 800 again

>>1848550
Who is going to use coinbase after this? They had their chance with a lot of noobs and blew it

>>1848585
To get their money out and sell what they have.

Maybe it won't happen though

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>>1848534
Oh well, sometimes you just gotta cut your loses and move on.

I don't think ethereum will go up.

I have an idea that bitcoin is gonna go back up because "bitcoin" so since its low now you might as well invest in some.

Its back at 1122 dollars! Like wtf? What kind of dip is this??

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Dubs if we level off at $1000. Praise Kek

Get on now! CB up!

so not only it doesn't get accepted but we also get this shitty ass dip, which would happen anyway every couple days with bitcoin...

>>1848585
What alternatives are there? I'm thinking of moving on to stocks, fuck these scumbags

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>>1848560
>yfw you realise the Bogdanoff twins are actually the Winklevoss from the future in heavy disguise
>The creation of the BTC ETF has global consequences that led to WW3
>The twins came back in time to scupper their own past-selves' plan in order to save the world

If you disregard the pump to 1300 earlier, we're pretty much where we were yesterday.

This is better for BTC in the long run imo, the comments the SEC posted about it show their lack of understanding and respect of the technology. BTC is the future and there's no stopping it.

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This buttcoin fad should of ended a long time ago.

>>1848597
Im using bitpanda. No problems so far.

Should I buy ETH now or will it dip alongside BTC?

I was promised a dip guys.

>>1848600
Damn...

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if dubs, sub-$500.

if dubs bitcoin will dip to $300

>>1848610
Can that be used in the US?

>>1848606
I agree

Was this it guys?

Are coinbase fags still waiting for the site to come back online?

And when it does, aren't they going to be buying instead of selling?

I set up a coinbase months ago but couldnt get past id verification, what kind of bullet did I dodge?

>>1848628
If dubs you'll trip over your shoelaces this evening.

>>1848375
>well, there are 2 other etfs in process for the end of the month

Given the SEC's opinion on the Winklevoss ETF we now know for certain they won't be approved. From the order:

>The Commission believes that, an exchange that lists and trades [ETPs] must [...] satisfy two requirements [...]. First, the exchange must have surveillance-sharing agreements with significant markets for trading the underlying commodity or derivatives on that commodity. And second, those markets must be regulated.
>Based on the record before it, the Commission believes that the significant markets for bitcoin are unregulated. Therefore, [...] the Exchange has not entered into, and would currently be unable to enter into, [...] surveillance-sharing agreement[s].

tl;dr: No bitcoin ETFs in the near future.

Im thinking about buying ethereum with my bitcoins. I think bitcoin will slide down fradually as all the people holding waiting for the ETF decision cash out. I don't want to cash out to fiat and i think ethereum will probably rise.

>>1848640
u missed out on ethereum...

>>1848643
Fradually? I meant gradually

Anyone else thinking about buying eth?

What are the Chinese going to do when they wake up in an hour?

>>1848648
Yeah, I usually buy tops and sell bottoms.

If dubs, Bitcoin goes back sub 100 but recovers in sometime in the next decade

>>1848650
sell like rice is going out of style

>>1848644
>>1848648
Fuck off ethereumshills.

>>1848657
If dubs, it's all ogre.

If dubs ethereumshills fuck off out of bitcoin threads forever.

>>1848530
YOU SOUND SMART SAY MORE THINGS

>>1848650
Chinas biggest trader known only as "Big Papa Huang" has a $400,000 long on BTC.

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>>1848662
kek has not blessed any naysayers in this thread. praise him.

Any chance of a double dip?

>its stabalized and already crawling back pre etf

>>1848597
Use kraken, I was able to sell at a small loss (cut from profits) instantly during the crash.

>>1848676
anything but stable m8, a fart could knock this thing off the edge

>>1848650
I hope sell

>>1848660
i just did 2 small coinbase deposits to my bank account, been using it for months, and no problems. although they have some troubles, they are still one of the best "bitcoin businesses" in my opinion

obvious dead cat bounce is obvious

Coinbase is back up lads!

KEK give us a second dip

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>>1848411
show your gainz bruvs

Im thinking of selling all my bitcoin for ethereum. Bitcoin is just going to gradually lose value over the next few months

>>1848411
I sent some ETH to poloniex just recently, how long does it take to arrive? When I send from poloniex to my ETH wallet it goes very fast

>>1848699
You're looking for the chat window with your mom.

This literally shouldn't surprise anyone. Its more of a correction than a sign of changing trends...

>>1848699
do it before china wakes up

>>1848699
I personally think that eth is a great long term investment, but I also think that btc will rise again to 1200. The base is just too active.

Also I would wait with buying etc, prob a dip inc.

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Did I do well, /biz?

>>1848699
wtf I hate bitcoin now.

>>1848702
I don't understand. Im just looking for advice about using all my bitcoins to buy ethereum. I mean, bitcoin looks like it will carry on losing value and it looks like ethereum will do pretty well so idk

>>1848717
No, it looks like ethereum will carry on losing value and it looks like bitcoin will do pretty well.

>>1848711
Yeah, i think that's the general sentiment now the ETF has been denied. I think it's time to buy ethereum because i think BTC will gradually lose value over the next few months

>>1848717
>>1848719
Let him do it, we need suckers like him to make more profits

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>>1848709
What did you do?

>>1848676
nah, check out the mempool. Bitcoin just can't handle the transactions of all the sellers.

It'll go down
down
down

>>1848709
no, but at least you didnt buy high sell low. You almost broke even

>>1848709
you bought the dip?

no, this is the little dipper

>>1848729
>Bitcoin just can't handle the transactions of all the sellers.
... or buyers?

>>1848719
Why is that though, i think bitcoin has just plummetted by $200 in less than 5 minutes since the ETF news and it will carry on losing value as people realise it is not going to gain much value because bitcoin seems to be obsolete

>>1848739
>ethereum will carry on losing value
I agree.

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>>1848726
Saatanan natalia täälläkin

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Wouldn't it be wise to take care of this at the same time? It's gonna crash either way so we could kill two birds with one stone.

So glad i shorted at 1240, already up 430 dollars, the dip was predictable after flopping around 1130-1180 margin only to shoot up fast again. Who else here comfy with their gains so far?

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>sold at $1240 a week ago

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>>1848744

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>>1848739
>bitcoin seems to be obsolete
Until vendors start favoring another alt, this is untrue. XMR and Dash are about the only ones. Dash might be okay, but its surrounded in conspiracy. XMR is likely to be king in the long run. But that is only for private currencies.

Bitcoin's transaction issues will be resolved.

ETH is moving away from mining to a proof of stake system. This is absolute garbage from my understanding. ETH has also not provided anything of value. Microsoft and others are mostly just researching it so they can apply the technology themselves. The only product ETH has made that did anything was the DAO and we all know how that turned out.

Why is ETH so unphased by this

>>1848752
Take care of it how? Choose one over the other?

>last post was 6 minutes ago

Jesus christ it feels lonely in here.

>>1848733
>bought the dip
yup

>>1848726
those green circles are buys

>>1848730
>broke even
>both are buy orders

>>1848762

true about xmr. i figured bitcoin would get denied and plummet, so i hedged against xmr (and it worked). i don't even want to trade it back for more bitcoin now, i think i'm in it for the long run. superior tech imo.

>>1848778
>/sBlue66
Fucking ShareBlue, get out of my board.

Should I buy now or wait?

>>1848787
What?

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The real dip incoming.
>everyone that tried to buy the dip

>>1848794
In the long run it doesn't matter.

In the short term I'm still hoping for more of dat dipp.

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Here comes the next dip, see you at the bottom?

>>1848794
wait

we haven't gone through round 2 yet

>>1848799
How can you tell it's coming?
I don't see shit on that chart except what already happened.

>inb4 no reply

>>1848805
Red candles bro

>>1848781
then you are a cuck, shoulda bought eth instead, i made my losses back already.

I think bitcoin will gradually slide down to $700. Im going to buy ethereum to protect my money

>>1848813
>>1848811
why do you guys think ETH is a safe bet

>>1848811
>>1848813
Fuck off eth shills.

If people actually cared about your shitcoin, you wouldn't have to be promoting it like this after all this time.

>>1848805
you can't tell from the chart. it's been less than 2 hours so the initial sell off was only people waiting for this exact event.

in the coming hours the casuals will hear the news and move to sell. plus the network is congested so transactions to exchanges will take hours.

>>1848799
>The real dip incoming
Look at the volume faggot, this was it. The dip already happened.

>>1848828
What volume are you looking at?
Honest question.

>>1848821
People might notice the price going back up and buy instead.

moon soon for bitcoin! etf would have been the worse thing to happen to it. we dont need the sec, irs and the alphabet jews clogging up our coin. i predict 1400 by tomorrow and 2k by next week. eth to 15

>>1848831
I'm assuming the dark green bars are volume - they correlate with Kraken volume too.

>>1848837
Yeah, the less jew involvement bitcoin has, the better.

>>1848842
>I'm assuming the dark green bars are volume
What ticker?

Gemini executed my limit sale of 40 ETH within a second of me clicking Sell, in full. I was primed and prepared for the dip to happen. Only broke even but whatever.

Fuck this shit, I'm switching to Robinhood unless a good-ass ETH dip happens. I mean sharp down to $17.

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Bitcoin Fags on Maximum Damage Control
Meanwhile Ethereum Ramping Upward Ez Peezy

born too late to mine bitcoin with my own computer,
born too early to buy spaceship from the silk road with bitcoin,
born just in time to buy the last dip in bitcoin history
feels good man

>>1848848
Are you daft to the head? >>1848799 look at the pic

>>1848831
the volume is low at the moment because the broken ass bitcoin network can't transfer coins onto exchanges fast enough. volume is practically zero right now, everyone who had coins available sold.

I'm just sharing my opinion. you might be right, they might buy. I don't think that's how it's gonna go though. I think when the mempool catches up, the real dip will come.

>>1848849
Maybe that's just because so few people are on gemini.

wtf do i do now i can't sell my btc also i own some dash should i sell them now?

>>1848853
So what ticker?

>>1848852
>the last dip

>>1848860
Please stop posting here and do some basic research anon.

>>1848456
buy nigger

>>1848471
Enjoy ponzi scam looser

>>1848856

I switched to Gemini once Coinbase hit me with the fuckawful webcam applet needed for verification. Gemini is just superior in all regards and they really did me well here.

>>1848862
That fucking image could be for spinach stock for all I know, christ what's the matter with you people?

>>1848855
maybe on coinbase and similar wallets there is still dip waiting

on exchanges though it already happened

>>1848870
You being dumb faggot expecting to be spoonfed thats the matter. Literally a chart in BTC ETF general, geez, what could it be? If you are unable to get it you have no business posting here. Lurk moar.

>>1848435
>poloniex
why?

>>1848882
You think there's literally only one ticker for bitcoin or something?

Protip: there are different tickers for different currencies, and for every exchange.

>>1848869
w-wait, you dont have to provide ID in order to trade on Gemini?

So glad I bought ETH instead.

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>>1848411
As someone never invested in Bitcoin should I jump in?

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>>1848497
>99℅ of bitcoin holders are fucking white males
fucking numbskull

>>1848888

You do, but you don't have to use a FUCKING WEBCAM to scan it. You just send a picture.

I'm imagining everyone on Coinbase is a faggot on a MacBook Pro.

>>1848896
If you are willing to hold for more than 6 months minimum, then yes, now is a good time to jump in.

>>1848902
why 6 months specifically

There is no reason to stay on this ride unless you bought in years ago. Fuck this.

>>1848775
People believe in the future of the platform, not as many speculators driving fluctuations. The failure of the dao drove away alot of speculators, as well. Plus, the coin is still in the expansion phase/work rate hasn't jumped significantly yet, so lots of people can invest by mining still.

>>1848911
Get your basics down or you will lose money once nobody holds your hands anymore

>>1848896
no, it's not done dipping yet

Do you guys think that it will dip more the coming days, or is now a good time to buy som ekstra bitcoins?

>>1848913
How about just weeks/months ago?

I sure would've been a lot richer if I'd simply bought and held the first time around, and that was just in late December.

>>1848915
I'm just starting out. Any good videos/readings you can recommend

>>1848820
>shills

You mean like all the people who post the bitcoin threads constantly? For every eth thread, there's like 5 buttcoin threads bitching about muh speculators.

>>1848917
a few exchanges went down during the shit storm so my bet is a lot of people still haven't had a chance to sell. Make what you want with that information.

>>1848911
Cause its reasonable to assume by that time BTC will be worth 1200€ or more once again

>>1848921
Anything but this coinshilling board.
Reddit is good and I think fundamental investing is a good way to invest in bitcoin. If you are starting out do not go into trading.

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china is waking up

>>1848914

I bought in on ETH but never believed in it because the mETHheads are communist fucknuts who unironically believe normal people would trade the efficacy and comfort of centralized systems for "the people's" notions of individuality, privacy, means of production in the hands of fucking nerds with gaming rigs who have not even proposed a "dApp" that normal people would actually want.

>>1848926
coinbase has been up for some time already though

>>1848931
What exchange is this? Are there any major western exchanges which offer CNY?

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>>1848913
Bought at $250. Seriously considering getting off this ride if it dips below 1k again.
>pic very related

I'M FUCKING SICK OF MISSING IT

I FIRST SAW BITCOIN IN 2012 PROBABLY BEFORE MOST OF YOU FAGGOTS BUT BECAUSE I'M POOR I COULDN'T AFFORD TO SPEND 14 USD ON SOME STUPID DIGITAL COIN...........THIS WAS IN 2012...

THEN IT HIT 1000 FOR THE FIRST TIME AND I WAS ANGRY BECAUSE I STILL HAD 0 BTC

AND NOW ITS GOING TO DO IT AGAIN.

IT IS GOING TO 5K USD BY 2020 AND I STILL HAVE FUCKING 00000000000000000000000000000 BITCOINS

FUCKKKKKKKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUUU

THERE IS NO POINT IN BEING EARLY IF YOU ARE POOR

FUCKLKKKKKKKKL

>>1848947
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/okcoin/btccny

no idea, I wouldn't count on it. chinese banks are total fuckers.

>>1848900
>He doesn't use a phone app

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>>1848955

The Coinbase phone app doesn't allow for verification because they are terrible coders. I tried using one of those jank-ass iPhone-as-PC-webcam apps but their shitty applet wouldn't detect it.

Gemini is just better anyway, quicker, more features, DOESN'T GO DOWN UPON SEC RULINGS, etc.

>>1848952
I had mined 7btc in 2011 in the 7th grade, i sold them for vidja

>>1848952
make an account on kraken, have everything ready, wire few bucks onto it and be ready to buy once you got cash.

>>1848952
>tfw bought from silk road in 2012 when 1 BTC was like 3USD
>bought again in 2013, 10USD/BTC
>said to myself "hmmm" and moved on
>Mt. Gox crash, reading the news
>2015, bought 50USD worth just for the lulz
>February, started trading just after the dip
>now
>finally a crash so I can buy
>still only have 1100€ to invest

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>tfw went from .18 to .22 BTC through today's action
>meanwhile others lost everything going 100x and likely killed themselves

>>1848650
They're going to buy Monero.

>>1848988
buy eth

I only lost $2 cuz i bought $100 btc $100 Eth at the dip like a gudboy

>>1848977
Damn. Do you constantly think about the opportunity you almost had at your finger tips?

>>1848991
I did, and made a nice trade

looking to reload at .0165

>>1848995
Honestly, I dont beat myself up for it much. I mean, right now, how sure you are BTC is going to go up long-term?

To any Canadians who trade bitcoins, I just found out Coinbase can't transfer money to my bank accounts if I wanted to sell. What is a good exchange I can use instead to sell my crypto's when they reach the moon? Preferably one that connects to my bank account.

>>1848999
>nice trade

not enough, you need gainz

>>1849006
Kraken

>>1848995
Also, Im not sure but if I remember correctly, back in that time lot of wallet vendors werent trustworthy. So prolly would lost that money anyway

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How much more is it going to drop when coinbase comes back online and everyone panic sells?

>>1849014
>tfw coinbase has been online for more than hour now

>>1848411
told you so

>>1849014
1000$ looks like the new low to the new leg up post-etf news hype, got lots of volume and recovered hard

did it go below 1k on any exchange?

GUYS BUY ETH NOW!!! LETS BOOST TF OUT OF IT!1

>>1849026
this

>>1849025
Was 1016 for a few moments on Kraken

>>1849006
WHAT ? So it lets me buy but not sell?????

surprised that so many people here aren't buying eth

I went from 0.042 BTC to 0.044 BTC after buying that dip lol, slowly but surely.

I figured since I'm a wageslave and can't afford much BTC, might as well invest all my money in ETH and just try to trade my way up in BTC

>>1849029
No, I tried connecting my Visa Debit (had my CC on there) and clicked "sell" just to test it but it doesn't let you.
Need to find a viable alternative that's not Coinbase. Looking at Kraken but I fucked up my user info when I signed up.

guys why is btc climbing up to 1,105 wtf

>>1849038
Visa Debit, as in card? Or does Visa offer bank accounts in Canada?

>>1849026
I'm waiting for it to go below $19, hopefully close to $18.5, then I'm buying

>>1849038
uhh that is fucked. what options do I have to get my money from coinbase?

>>1849038
You need to connect it to your bank account retard.

>>1849046
no you just cant fathom how cucked canada is. bank account is connected

>>1849038
deposit with debit???

GUYS WTF IS HAPPENIONG ETH IS DROPPING AND BTC IS CLIMBING>???

The dip already came, BTC price will begin to grow again.

screenshot this

>>1849061
ETH is pretty high, not climbing, but it's not falling

>>1848928
If you go reddit, go /r/btc or /r/bitcoinmarkets instead of /r/bitcoin. /r/bitcoin is full of censorship against sellers.

That being sad, also reddit is full of idiots just shouting random shit without knowing what they are talking about

>>1848500
Deus vult

i should have bought on the dip just now im retarded

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>>1849087
>>1848928
>Reddit is good

kys

>>1849134
me too, praying the rise is because of chinks selling

muh moon fags btfo

>>1849087
>That being sad, also reddit is full of idiots just shouting random shit without knowing what they are talking about
So just like this thread?

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coinbase wants photo id and i don't have one since i didn't renew my passport

which wallet do you ghuys use?

>>1849170
>requires photo ID to use a currency
Why not just install windows 10 directly into your brain, since we're violating every right to privacy?

>>1849199
that's why i asked what you guys use...

>>1849206
localbitcoins

I don't use it, but if you don't have any photo id maybe you should

>>1848411
Guys, I'm fucking new to this game.
Should I buy bitcoins now that they're on the dip? Or do I invest in something like etherium?
How much is etherium vs bitcoin?

Since ETH has proven to be relatively stable, I've gotten a feel for the rhythm of it, and it's open 24/7 with no transaction limits apart from negligible fees, I think I'm going to start day-trading the shit out of it.

Next $17 dip and that shit is mine again.

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>>1849219
dip's over lad, but $100 dip won't make a difference in 5 years time when BTC reaches 1M

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>>1849240
Sieg ETH!
SIEG ETH!

>>1849219
>they're on the dip
They're not. Not yet at least.

Wait a week to see if we go sub 800.

don't be a mong; learn how the protocol works.

kek can neither benefit nor harm you; he has no independent power. All power comes from God Almighty

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>>1848949
Same dingy here my dude

I sold up the bulk of my stake from a $400 buy in. Way too volatile with too many manipulators

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>>1848427
3/11 = police code = pizzagate = no etf

You don't listen do you?

>>1848762
proof of stake makes way more sense than burning coal in china to power a computer to solve useless math problems forever

d-do i buy the dip?

>>1848894
why? this "dip" is literally within the fluctuations of the last 2-3 weeks. The ETF failure practically hasn't affected Bitcoin.

>>1848988
went from 0.8 to 2.1 ;)

Feels good, I literally bought $250 in november and I've nearly 10xed my investment

>>1848435
>>1848454
poloniex never failed me, idk what you are upset about

>>1849481
t. poloniex damage control

Fuck bought 250 bucks worth high just end me

good time to buy ETH lads?

>>1849681
I just bought another 50, but it's really hard to say. depends on of china decides to dump while we are all asleep, which might jack up the price of ETH. they might pump too, the world is on fucking crazy pills right now. ETH has another major release in april and is close to PoS so it's a pretty safe buy right now IMO.

Started mining Eth.

>>1849706
i'm in no rush to sell, would buying 25 eth and holding on to them for a year or two be worth?

>>1849717
if you got 500 to blow, fuck it why not, just chump change really. and even if it gets to 10% of the BTC ATH that's 2-3k in profit.

I bought some BTCoins on coinbase one hour after crash yesterday, log in today and nothing. No history, no record of that transaction. At least it seems they returned debit card charge. Anyone else?

I was waiting for a good, fat dip. Seems like it wont arrive. Should I buy now? I dont really se the point in waiting. If the denial of the ETF can't make it drop, what can?

I was expecting a much bigger dip, where the Chinese at?

>>1849880
>>1850017
You missed the train, but you can still get on while it's in the $1200s station. Surely there will be bumps in the coming ride, but the end station is beyond moon.

>>1848578
What are you using to generate these charts?

>>1849824
This is why I don't invest in bitcoin. Too unreliable. The whole thing could just disappear and coiners would have no recourse to action.

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Hey guys, which wallets and exchanges do you use? Late to the train here.

I still don't actually know what ETH is but I bought 8 of it anyway. Fuck me right?

Step 1: Create false digital currency "anonymously" (But be a gov agency with cutting edge technology unavailable even to the most suave hackers at your disposal)

Step 2: FREE MONEY!!! That's right, come roll some dice and gamble on the house! No really, it's free! Complete this captcha and get a penny.

Step 3: Free money=feeding frenzy=demand="holy guacamole, there might be something to this bitcoin stuff....

Step 4: Manufactured trust artificially drives up the actual value

Step 5: Bid your time, let the market evolve, play the long con

Step 6: Rob millions and millions of BTC wallets, basically author the most based bank robbery in the history of the world, one that won't be surpassed at least in your lifetime.

Step 7: Who will prosecute, better yet, what is there to prosecute? All of the money gone without a trace. Price plummets soon after but not before the insiders get their lucrative gains.

Step 8: Restart the process until regulation occurs (Which will only come to light with the permission of the robbers themselves).

Screencap this

>>1850124
>Step 6: Rob millions and millions of BTC wallets

How?

Passionate nocoiner here, but even I have to say you seem to have no clue whatsoever how a large crypto currency like BTC works. The decentralized concept is sound and logically/mathematically provable. The implementation is shitty and the utility lacking, but even if there was a giant gaping backdoor in bitcoin core (for which there is no evidence) or a 51% attack took place, it would be rather easily recoverable with a fork.

>>1850128
>How?

Three letter agencies, do I have to spell them out?

Keep in mind were talking about the same groups of ppl who brought your TOR, and then exploited TOR in ways unknown to even the most sophisticated and intelligent freelancers.

Sure there is a science behind it, and I'm not at liberty to discuss it because you're right, I don't know. Your faith is just a display of the consensus of millions, which means we're on par for the course. Think a digital age stock market crash, 1928 style.

This whole theory rests on the basis of conclusions drawn from the fact that no one knows where or how BTC originated, which is pretty damning because you can't spell out the motives of its creation given this fact. If it was some college kid in a garage, cliche-style rags to riches genius it'd be a different story but still susceptible to my other post..but it's not even that, which only makes the obvious even more clear.

>>1850124

>
Step 6: Rob millions and millions of BTC wallets, basically author the most based bank robbery in the history of the world, one that won't be surpassed at least in your lifetime.

>headline news, all btc in the world stolen, all trust for btc lost forever, btc looses all value, congratz u just played yourself cianigger

>>1850137
> I don't have a clue how Bitcoin works therefore I know three letter agencies can steal your Bitcoins by some super secret technique
> also TOR
Nothing pisses me off more than idiots who don't know shit spout their opinion. Lurk more https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0

>>1850137
Dude, it's mathematics. We know the source code. We are aware of the exact method by which a determinstic machine pushes around 1s and 0s. There is no secret, no black box and it doesn't matter whether we know who exactly put it out there. You can take the papers, take the source code and (in theory) make the calculations by hand, step by step. There is no mystery!

The block chain stores every transaction publicly and has been downloaded in its entirety by countless people. You can just look up how many bitcoins exist, where they come from, where they go. If something crazy were to happen, a 51% consensus could just fork/rollback to an older version and prevent it from ever happening.

I think bitcoin is utter shit and there will be plenty of nasty stuff happening because of shitty constraints and dodgy implementations. But the basic principle and math are sound and out there for everyone to check and double-check. I love me a good conspiracy story, but I see no reason to hop onto your bandwagon. Your "proof" offered so far is "Duuude, I could like toootally happen, right? Why not, dude? Alphabet agencies, man!". I'd love to see a fundamental flaw in BTC, but you're not even attempting to show one. I'm not even saying it's completely impossible. I know too little myself to rule some shit out like the NSA pulled with DUAL_EC_DRBG, but people had been suspicious of it for years prior. I don't think such a thing exists in BTC, at least I'm not aware of it.

>then exploited TOR
And how exactly has TOR been broken and exploited? I've heard plenty of side-channel attacks, information leaks, shitty implementations, bad sandboxing, etc. But TOR itself? Never heard any credible story of any successful exploit. Care to provide proof for your allegations?

>>1850117
Please notice me

>>1850233
bitcoin de for bitcoin (german)
bitpanda com for eth

>>1850199

>TOR been broken and exploited
Not him but https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/how-the-nsa-or-anyone-else-can-crack-tors-anonymity

If you have enough funds and are determined enough (lets say https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullrun_(decryption_program)) you can take over the TOR and identify its users.

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alright guys false alarm. please resume shitposting

>>1850258
>Not him but https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/how-the-nsa-or-anyone-else-can-crack-tors-anonymity

Let's see.

>He set up a fake server and a fake website on the deep web, from which the victim has to download a large file.
Already pretty theoretical.

>Embedded in this file is code that allows him to access a feature of most routers called NetFlow
So it's exploiting the router? Not really a flaw in the TOR protocol itself.

>If the user continues to be routed through these nodes (which requires the file to be continuously downloaded for at least several minutes, perhaps as long as an hour)
That's a pretty big "if".

Looks like a side-channel / traffic analysis attack, not really anything related to the TOR protocol in particular. Seems to be confirmed by blog.torproject.org/blog/traffic-correlation-using-netflows where the original researcher also mentions in the comments:
>I am here to myself clarify all misconceptions. Firslty, they have blow it a bit out of proportion by saying that "81% of Tor traffic", which is not true. It was only 81.4% of our experiments, and we have spoken about this upfront in our paper. Secondly, its only a case of experimental validation and the challenges involved in it that is the highlight of the paper. In my thesis I have also tried to address how to solve this particular attack, which might work for other attacks as well...

It's interesting, albeit not exactly new, but doesn't show TOR to be broken.

>>1850273
Perhaps it is really safe. But idknow I never felt safe using it. I think its practically impossible to stay anonymous online if the adversaries are determined to find you. Its crazy to think that only a few small mistakes can be put together to identify you.

>>1850289
>Perhaps it is really safe.
Nothing's probably "really safe". At best you can hope for "currently safe enough". If we project Moore's Law into the future or even consider quantum computing, basically our whole crypto infrastructure retroactively crumbles.

>But idknow I never felt safe using it.
Probably smart. Even if you ever needed to use it, you shouldn't be careless about it.

>Its crazy to think that only a few small mistakes can be put
Well said. There is always a very real danger of something tiny spilling the beans.

You can only hope to make it difficult enough that most adversaries won't bother because they can use their resources more efficiently than chasing down you. I mean, if we can be real for a moment: Crypto is all nice and dandy, but the human element is still the biggest weakness by far. You can hide your data behind AES, RSA or TOR, but if they start grinding your fingers and dick down with a cheese grater, I'd like to see how long you can keep your passwords secret. If it evens matters at this point. Bad enough adversaries capable of decrypting your shit can probably more easily make you disappear entirely. And the 20 other people they couldn't tell you apart from on top.

>>1850307
>If we project Moore's Law into the future or even consider quantum computing, basically our whole crypto infrastructure retroactively crumbles.

You have zero fucking idea what you're talking about.

>>1848966
>, me
same here in mid 2011, back when it was a meme on /b/ 'why aren't you mining bitcoin yet' threads. Also gambled away everything on bitdice

>>1850336
>You have zero fucking idea what you're talking about.
How so?

Plenty of sites don't use a Diffie-Hellman key exchange
We know the NSA logs large portions of the internet traffic in bulk

You do the math. If computing ever advances to the point where we can crack the initial RSA-encyrpted key exchange, they get the AES session key in clear text and can decrept the rest. Ergo retroactively all TLS encrypted traffic becomes decryptable.

Old AES encrypted hard drives, old PGP encrypted messages, etc. Crypto never upgrades key-strength by itself. If 1024 bit RSA becomes feasible to decrypt a lot of very recent shit will be uncomfortably open.