What kind of ventures have you embarked on to make money on the

>>1733839
Anything that makes money is a job, dumbass. Even if it's investing or gambling, you are giving up time for money.

>>1733839

Airbnb. I made so much money of it without any work. ~100-120 euros a night. I went to africa for 2 weeks and it was paid by people renting my apartment while i was gone. Might not be a big venture but it is great.

>>1733859
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My real estate is doing pretty good. It pays most of my bills now.

I'm thinking to stay flipping homes on the side next

>>1733839
Losing money on the stock market.

>>1733859
gambling is not work, you produce nothing of value

>>1733839
Lottery tickets

>>1734116
Do you think financiers and stock trader produce anything of value?

>>1734123
investing in a basic way is what allows businesses to form and grow, most duties of a "financier" I would guess perform a necessary function

>>1734132
You could say the same about a gambler patronising a casino and then spending his winnings on the town.

>>1734116
While, I agree with your sentimentality--gamblers would proceed to put money back into the economy with their earnings, sort of like a drug dealer or a prostitute.

>>1734153
Except gamblers pay taxes which contribute to the advancement and growth of society. Drug dealers and hookers are a cancer on society.

>>1734147
regardless what you can label a ""job"" depending on what definition you choose to use,

>>1733859

seems to think

>TIME+MONEY=JOB

when in reality you're always giving up time, working or not. it would be better to say "a task done in exchange for money"…but then you have the word like a singular noun, "A" job, we did "A" job last week (we built a fence), a job as OP describes, as

>>1733859

should have realized is in the vernacular, a JOB being a consistently attended duty assigned at regular intervals for the purposes of providing a good or service to the public……in other words everyone knows what it means.

OP, is asking about a SIDE HUSTLE, a "VENTURE" which also everyone knows what it means, except >>1733859 the cheeky bastard looking to mince meanings. something besides your "DAY JOB"

I bet >>1733859 will respond,

>um Lol no technically its not a day job I work 3rd shift

its perfectly clear what OP meant, what's not clear is your own ability to read between the lines

I'm a bank teller. I comb through the coins in my till every day, pick out commemorative ones and withdraw them from my own account. I then sell them on eBay for a 50%-100% mark-up. I'm on track to make £400 this month from coin sales.

>>1734464
Would you get fired if someone found out?

>>1734471
doubt it I had a friend who used to do this with his manager all the time.

Well, I started attending pop culture conventions as a vendor. I was pretty tired of stores not carrying anything that I wanted to buy and figured I knew that market well enough to keep up.

It's kind of a joke though. Most organizers rip off vendors _and_ customers with very high prices. I mean like hundreds of dollars for a 6ft table and $50/day to shop (celebrity guests are extra). So what happens is people pay through the nose to get in, are upset that prices inside aren't massively discounted (they must think vendors get in free or something), and leave without buying anything.

I was doing decent volume and very close to a profit my first year or two. Figured it was just getting fixed costs (like a tablet and CC reader) and learning the ropes a little. The last two years were fucking disasters though. There's been an explosion in cosplayers who pay money just to walk around dressed as the Joker or slutty Harley Quinn.

I mean, when you're paying $200 for a table and $100 for a motel room and can't even make that back in gross revenue...yeah, it's awful, and I don't know how some of these people make it because alot of them don't look like the 8-5 professional type.

>>1734945
vendors in the internet/ebay age are ...at a disadvantage to say the least

>>1734464
I do something similar, I have a lot of Canadian quarters from my travels. When it comes time to count my cash tray I secretly replace about 20% of the honest USD quarters in the till with my similar but inferior Canuck quarters.

Nobody has ever caught on that it's me. I estimate I make about 4-6 dollars a week extra, tax free.

>>1735032
I don't feel threatened by eBay or Amazon outside of how fakes are openly marketed with free shipping from China thanks to ePacket. People have actually come up to me and complained that I was selling _authentic_ goods. Like, duh, what else would I sell?

What gets me, though, is how the shows keep attracting vendors. They're always complaining about not enough traffic or sales. I've actually quit going to some shows over that but somehow they sell keep selling out.

There's one in Pittsburgh that has doubled in price in the last 3 years and it's barely more than a flea market once you get in the door. Another one in Harrisburg doubled their prices as they moved from a convention center to an abandoned Boscov's in the mall. I did some research and in every photo it's clear there's like 1 customer per vendor.

>>1733839
Rent extra rooms in my house to friends, and option trading (mostly credit spreads).

My fiance does dressmaking/designing. She dumps that money into a brokerage account I also trade with, but I only do covered calls and equities because I don't wanna fuck up my relationship by losing her money.

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Managing my own portfolio. Start a trading account last June. Pic related is a bit misleading because I made a few small losses early having never traded before.

>>1735365
how much capital did you start with? Where'd you learn about stock trading/investing to be able to start your own portfolio? Do you make trades every day?

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I finally finished building my gross trend predictor in my spare time. I'm currently simulating 2015, to see how I would have fared trading based on the computed predictions. Early evidence looks somewhat promising, surprisingly. I came here to ask, b/c I have literally no experience with trading. I'll post in this thread b4 making my own thread.

What is a good yearly return on investment?

>>1735619
I'd say 4-7% is expected. 10% is the golden value.

Btw how'd you make this gross trend predictor? are you a coder?

>>1733860
I'm terrified of letting randos come into my apartment.

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>>1735627
Yeah. In undergrad I worked in a bioinformatics lab, and learned how to code, plus a bunch of machine learning algorithms and mechanisms to implement them. So since graduating I've picked up, as a hobby, building machine learning implementations to predict certain things.

Started with trying to predict sports based on metrics, and didn't have enough success to actually beat bookies (w/ the -110 standard on lined bets). So I switched to stocks.

The thing does this: I cluster stocks based on their historical performance. SO stocks that tend to rise and fall together are clustered. Then I find clusters which appear to be rising now. It's somewhat a historical perspective, which clashes with published literature on the Random Walk nature of the market. But the idea is I can train an algorithm to identify the stocks which follow the cluster, but are lagging behind, there are safer investments.

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>>1733860

>Went to Africa

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Flip record consoles

Buy for $100 on craiglist and resell for $1200 on etsy

>>1735349
its possible in some cases the fakes are as good as the real thing, depending on your intentions with the item. to name an example, some "generic" band merch might be half the cost of real merch and still get the point across you like the band.

also, the discrepency may come from how the other vendors stock or inventory differ from yours, and if that plays out better at physical conventions for x or y reasons

>>1735645
that's pretty neat, good luck with that. I'm a computer engineering student, and I'm hoping to someday model something around sports betting and/or stocks.

>>1735645
Goddess

>>1733860

Yeah but how do they get a key to get in and out? What if they have questions during their stay? What about them messing up your place or stealing? How do you clean the home in between guests?

So many questions about Airbnb.

>>1733839

I like to flip stuff on CL and Ebay.

Garage sales are good places to find stuff, also when people move offer to help. Most people will have a lot of stuff during the move that they don't want anymore and will just give it to you. Then you flip it on CL/Ebay

>>1735650
I see your posts a lot and I'm freshly impressed eachtime

>>1735650
have you done this? hows shipping work? i actually have one of these tables in my living room collecting dust

>>1735643
foreal
>>1733860
If you airbnbd it while you were gone, did you do it no screening? just letting whoever paid stay?

>>1735643
>Only rent out to people with more than 5 good reviews
>No minorities
>Nobody from east europe

>>1735646
Gotta see that wildlife

>>1735726
>key
You can get someone to do it (paid or not)

>Questions
I had a friend take care of basic questions (there was few like 1-2 a week).

>Stealing/messing up

Never happened before.

>cleaning

Paid a friends sister to do it since she needed money

>>1735748
ALWAYS SCREEN

>>1735735

I have a shipping company that ships items.

kind of pricey, but rich people from California will pay it