What is currently the safest long term investment that is

>>1725816
Index funds.

>>1725819
Even with Brexit, The FTSE being at an all time high and the uncertainty of Trump?

>>1725829
You're an idiot.

>>1725819
You're also an idiot.

>>1725819
Absolutely.

>>1725829
Yes.

>>1725836
And you're the biggest idiot of them all.

>>1725816
SPY

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>>1725836
>shits on answers
>offers no better alternative

UNSE01 thank me later.

>>1725847
What Platform do you use to invest in ETF's? Do Did you make a lump sum or pay in at intervals?

>>1725819
I will second this

maximum diversification and almost nothing in fees

>>1725819
>>1725912
You literally cant lose with an index fund unless the entire market collapses (in which case everything else is fucked too).

>>1725836
If youre not a troll, you're lottery tier retarded

>>1725816
Gold and silver. Nothing else is safe.

>>1726093
You fags have been saying this for decades. Fuck off.

>>1726105
No, we haven't. But sure invest in some nice stable index funds, no way bank and government fuck ups of this magnitude could ever result in an economic crash!

>>1726114
And if the economy collapses who the fuck is going to buy your gold?

>>1726114
You mean like 08? And the following years with mad gains. I've been listening to you guys for years. "This is the year it all ends! Get gold and silver now!" You are mentally ill. If you want to play around with a small portion of your funds in metals sure that's fine but you are speculating not investing.

Seriously go bury gold in your backyard. No one cares. If shit really hits the fan and the world market crashes and anarchy rains all your gold and silver won't save you when the hordes of people who hoarded weapons and ammo come take your shit.

>>1726093
dude that shit is addictive,the whole drinking water but getting more thirsty thing.

once you have a taste of the shiny, there is never enough

>>1726122
>And if the economy collapses who the fuck is going to buy your gold?
gold literally only has value because the usa, russia, and india won't stop buying more reserves. those countries keep buying gold so that the cost of gold stays more or less stable vs. their national currencies. precious metal is actually worthless. its value is a product of three governments colluding to make a resource artificially scarce. china used to be involved but they've started aggressively pursuing goal hoarders, their own reserves are vague and difficult to assess.

>>1725816
real estate

>>1725816

PENNY STOCKS BRO

TO THE MOON

>>1726122
>>1726124
I'm not an autist who thinks the world is going to end. If and when the fiat currencies of the world fail, gold and silver will be what the world falls back on.

>>1725816
Fuck index funds, fuck bonds. You like bonds, you should buy some land, plant some trees on it, cut them down in 30 years and sell the wood you will make more money than in fucking bonds.

Divided stocks. WPT. JE. BWC.. Especially WPT. Holy shit WPT is such a great company for dividends.

>>1725816
buy oil stocks
specifcally XOM

Hold it for a year. Thannk me later.

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>>1725877
For some reason these random tips really sound appealing as insider trading. But if it catches on, people will pump and dump.

wat do?

>>1726299
I'm sorry but metal backed currencies aren't coming back. Something like cryptocurrency would be the next step but it's pretty delusional to expect fiat to end near your retirement.

I don't see fiat ending in our life time, not even several lifetimes.

>>1726317
Growth stocks have outperformed dividend stocks for awhile now, not to say there isn't room for them. Bonds should make anywhere from 0-20% depending on your risk tolerance.

>You should buy some land, plant some trees on it,

Autism.

>>1726317
He said safest, not most profitable

long usd on dips

>>1726348
I never said metals were going to back the world currencies after a fiat collapse, but they will be used temporarily as an investment with a stable value, as they have many times before in human history, until new currencies are created. If you don't think hyper inflation is inevitable with the way the Fed spent their way out of our last crash and lowered interest rates, you're delusional.

>>1726359
We made it through severe inflation in the 80's just fine. You're banking your hopes and dreams on a world changing event and I'M the delusional one. Do you even listen to yourself?

Enjoy working for the rest of your life.

>>1726373
>All inflation is the same
>World changing events never happen
>"How could you even think about something so terrible!"
That's the same logic people had right before every economic crash in world history.

>>1725819
Can someone explain index funds to a newbie like me?

>>1726386
>this is your brain on metals

>>1726390
http://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/indexfund.asp

Pretty concise explanation.

>>1726404
>This is your brain on mainstream economic education

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>>1726407
>smart investing is too mainstream for me

bitcoin

>>1725829
>Even with Brexit, The FTSE being at an all time high and the uncertainty of Trump?

The indexes have been at a high forever.

Trump is proving to mean very little negative things for business, and perhaps even highly beneficial.

>>1726414
Enjoy your lifestyle while you still have it. I might see you the next time I donate to my homeless shelter.

>>1726386
You know that if you don't sell during a recession you can just wait a little bit for it to return to normal, right?

Literally buy and hold for 25 years and you can't go wrong.

>>1726390
Without having to follow a link, it mainly refers to the S&P 500 index, which is the top 500 stocks in America.

Minimal fees, the most profitable companies, and is the general benchmark for investing ("beating the index")

>>1726299
>I'm not an autist who thinks the world is going to end
>>1726299
>If and when the fiat currencies of the world fail,
Choose one, autist.

>>1726348
>Growth stocks have outperformed dividend stocks for awhile now
Not to mention being significantly more tax efficient.

>>1726444
>it mainly refers to the S&P 500 index
No, it definitely does not. Only simpletons think indexing equals S&P500.

>Way to waste those trips

>>1726356
Safest is drawings money out of the ATM, buying food with it and storing it.


Let's all just put on our crash helmets, load up our shotguns and sit in the windowless bathroom in our basement and quiver with fear for a market correction.

Fucking stupid. Grow some balls and buy some stock. Even the most boring 90% private-held dividend stock in the market is better paying and about as risky as a T-bond or money market account.

>>1725816
short term: BTC

long term: BTC

anyone who disagrees is COPING

>>1726483
>look mom I posted it again!

>>1725816
Kneepads, constant demand. Can't beat them.

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>>1726114
You sound like this goldpumper who said in 1980 that gold would go to 2k in a few years and mega corporations like McD would go bankrupt and fiat was gonna fail.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=easuUdhW4X0&ab_channel=TheDollarVigilante

Stock have been a good investement for 200 years. Today it´s even easier, because you can just buy an index for minimal cost.

Gold has been a poor long term performer compared to stocks. Those are the facts.

>>1726462
>mainly
>not always

>>1726478
Pure cash is definitely not a safe long term investment. 0 Inflation protection

>Grow some balls and buy some stock
An index fund is MADE of stocks dumbass

>>1726483
>bitcoin
>SAFE investment
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>1726451
Since when does global economic collapse equal apocalypse? It means international redpilling, not the end of society.

>>1726507
Why would gold be a good investment in a world where fiat currencies aren't ready to collapse? Right now though, they are, hence why I invested.

>>1726572
>redpilling
Not a thing, /pol/fag. When you hit puberty and your brain matures you're going to be embarrassed about how stupid you were.

>>1726549
Depends on the index. The S&P500 is great for losing equity during a recession since it's mostly banks, overvalued tech stock and uncompetitive dog-shit consumer discretionaries.

You want to buy actual good, individual stocks, not just a basket of shit with a few gems in it that barely grows enough to outpace inflation.

There are firms that pay like 8% dividends and outcompete any index fund out there over the long run. Indexes are for lazy people, it's a dumb way to invest if you have any inclination to learn what the fuck you are doing.

>>1726585
That "basket of shit," as you call it, will outperform any number of stocks you pick. You're a fucking moron if you think you can outperform the market.

>>1726273
/thread

Buy a nice $300 bottle of wine and keep it safe, sell it 10 years from now.