I've got an idea. Majority of our workforce is centered in useless services (don't create wealth) while only a fraction are in industry and farming (creates wealth), which makes sense considering automatization.
So is unemployment a big issue? Why don't just work in factories/fields in shifts (eg. Some people work for one month and then another shift is taking their place) so everyone could benefit from automatization by working less and receiving more. Instead of forcing people to take useless job or die from starvation.
Is this idea retarded?
>>1632924
>automatization
>>1632924
Get out communist, go back to Belarus
>>1632938
Please make good arguments instead of >fuck u commie muh freedom and hamburgers
Please
>>1632924
Give some examples of what you think a "useless job" is
>>1632994
Restaurants, tourism etc.
Your premise that all those jobs are useless is retarded, to start
>>1633004
But they don't create anything! They create nothing, the chair that you are sitting on right now, the bed that you sleep in, or even the computer that you use write here was created in factory.
>>1633021
>All services are useless
Youre literally retarded OP
>>1633021
People pay for services you absolute retard. This isn't the industrial revolution
>>1633021
>the chair that you are sitting on right now, the bed that you sleep in, or even the computer that you use write here was created in factory.
All of those things will be gone and forgotten in 20 years. So they're nothing also.
They're a passing experience. Just like eating at a restaurant or touring the Louvre.
But what about ending a rat race? What about freedom?
>>1633042
OP confirmed shitposting troll
Still retarded, but for different reasons
>>1632998
You think those sectors don't create wealth?
They don't create *goods* but goods =/= wealth and that was true even when that retarded tag the communist manifesto was being drunkenly scrawled.
Go on, name another "useless job". I could do with a laugh.
>>1632924
> Services don't create wealth
> 40% of company profits in US come from Financial Services
>>1633021
So do you think teachers, doctors, and soldiers all do meaningless jobs and they shouldn't be paid?
You commies are so hung up on tangible goods that its almost endearing.
>>1633063
Rag*
>>1633068
Don't forget the unsung heroes of the service industry, America's hard working hookers.
If you don't consider them providing value then you, sir, are objectively wrong.
>>1632924
This was actually an idea of some early communist writer, to have everyone work in shifts of different jobs so they wouldn't get bored.
It's a retarded idea.
>>1632924
You're just getting at a crude version of the dichotomy between "productive" and "unproductive" labour from classical political economy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Productive_and_unproductive_labour#Classical_political_economy
Services don't continue to circulate as commodities so they're "unproductive" expenditures (but still necessary to maintain a functioning economy).
Most of the global workforce today is not centred in the service sector... you just don't see that most people still work in industry and farming from your vantage point in the first world. The first world mainly realizes the profits by purchasing commodities produced in the second/third world. In the process of doing all this purchasing you end up with a bigger service sector obviously.
If you want to understand why the idea of work-sharing causes so much butthurt amongst economists read this:
http://docslide.us/documents/draft-why-economists-dislike-a-lump-of-labor.html
>>1633065
Finance doesn't generate "wealth" itself... it ideally arranges and rearranges capital in a fashion to theoretically put capital at work making things we actually desire and takes some income for doing this service for society
>the US has wealth and has a big financial sector
>therefore a big financial sector makes more wealth
That's just tautological thinking... a big financial sector could just be a largly unnecessary conventionalized overhead expense for conducting most business in America sucking talent away from other sectors
>>1632998
>Any good or service that provides happiness or is otherwise simply desirable is "useless" and thus does not count as "wealth"
Not even Karl Marx as this retarded. Fuck off.
>>1632924
> Being this retarded