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Is affiliate marketing legit? It seems like every second Pajeet in a suit recommends it online that I don't even trust it,

For example, I'm thinking of adult affiliate marketing -- is it possible I just post big boobs on to a blog or tumblr and if I keep at it long enough, I'll be able to monetize it?

pls b real
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>>1619889
I do this on Twitter with the fitness/motivation niche.
Have 6 accounts with a total of ~100k followers.
It makes some decent beer money.
I could probably make a lot more if I took it seriously but this is just a hobby for me.

It only takes like 4-5 months to hit the 20k follower mark from scratch.
Why not try it small scale first to see if you like it?

From there if you get serious then you can look into MassPlaner/ FollowLiker/ etc.
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>>1620408
How much is 'beer money'? Even if it makes $100 a month it would be good, or is that too much? And how do you monetize twitter? I was thinking of tumblr or blogspot?
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>>1620416
It depends, I don't pay attention to my accounts as much as I should so my payments vary widely.
At its peak I was doing a little over $150/week. Lately its been like $200/month.

>or is that too much?
There are people that make 6-7 figures with just affiliate marketing.
You just need to put the proper systems in place to make that possible.
I'm just too lazy to do that.
I tried to scale but the process gets really boring.
It's just a lot of repetition.

>And how do you monetize twitter?
Is this not a thread about affiliate marketing?
I use affiliate marketing programs (like clickbank, jvzoo, etc) and drop my own affiliate link in my tweets periodically.
Twitter does not allow direct affiliate links for non-verified accounts so I set up a WordPress blog with the "Pretty Link" plugin to mask the affiliate links.
While you can get away with a direct link, you could get banned if the post is reported.

>I was thinking of tumblr or blogspot?
I don't know of anyone making affiliate money on a web 2.0
Generally I only see them profitable as part of a PBN.
But then again I've never tried it.
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>>1620445
Whats the best way to gain followers?
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>>1619889
Although social media af marketing is all the rage now it's in my opinion very hard to make it work, you'll surely quit before you make any returns.
The best way to do this is with websites, do your DD and pick some nice keywords/niches and go at it. Remember, high volume and low competition is best - search very hard for this and run with it.
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>>1621868
Post regularly (I do 2-3 times a day)
Follow churn up to 2-3k followers.
Promote engagement of your posts. ("hey share if you agree, comment if you disagree, ignore if you're a fag")
Then buy about 10k bot followers for "social proof" (going rate is $1 per 1k bot followers.)
The 2-3k real followers engaging in your content makes all followers look real.
Continue follow churn and notice people will follow you easier now because "social proof"
Continue to promote engagement.

Rinse and repeat.
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>>1622311
Awesome, thanks. I'll set one up on my next day off from wagecucking and try it out. I can shitpost on there all day at work
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>>1619889

Affiliate marketing is completely legitimate and there are many people making millions with it. The reality is that you need to develop an eye or a sixth sense for promoting your offer. This typically is only found through years of experience which is only possible from success of some sort. Otherwise, most people get discouraged and quit. I've been doing this shit for almost a decade so I have seen everything under the sun.

Regarding your particular niche, one of the more creative efforts I have seen employed was the registration of popular porn star domains. It's really that simple. A good example is rileymason.com - some neckbeard faggot literally registered this domain, filled it with riley mason content, and then embedded a ton of various affiliate links for porn site memberships. I know for a fact this guy makes thousands.

Other channels also require some sense of ingenuity or relevance. For example. some faggot I know started a oculus rift porn site that is doing extremely well now. It wasn't easy. He started it before oculus rift was even mainstream in the media but has persisted thus far and is getting rewarded very well for it.

You need experience to be good at it. Keep trying. Even if you're failing, you'll get better at it
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>>1622311

How do go from zero to those first few thousand followers?
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>>1622540
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>>1622311

Post regularly and follow churn.
Follow churn is 99% of the entire process.
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>>1619889
she is hot, who is she?
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>>1620445
can't twitter ban you for spamming affiliate links etc.?

>>1622716
Ukrainian model Anya/Merilyn Sakova, unfortunately she had to get her breasts reduced, RIP in peace
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>>1622695

Is "follow churn" just following others and hoping they follow you back? Or is there some website where you can find people to exchanges follows with or something?
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>>1620445
>I tried to scale but the process gets really boring.

You can automate parts of the process you know.
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What are some good AM programs?
Clickbank, jvzoo, are mentioned. Is amazon good? I would think it's trustworthy, more so than clickbank maybe.
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>>1622393
using someones name is illegal and they can shut up down with 1 emaiil. rileymason,com is clearly owned by her team
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Aff marketing is legit and how much you earn just depends on how smart your are, how much effort you put in. Mostly how much effort because so many people in this industry are lazy. Taking action sets you ahead of 90% of the competition.

>can't twitter ban you for spamming affiliate links etc.?
Yes. Read their TOS. Don't let that stop you from doing it though .You probably will get banned if it's your first rodeo. I've made thousands of dollars getting banned from one website for posting status updates. The cost to sign up again and start where you left off is nothing compared to the revenue possibility.
You'll have to learn the intricate rules to dodge spam filters. The most obvious one is is do not directly link to your affiliate offer. Buy a domain.

>How do go from zero to those first few thousand followers?
A) buy followers
B) follow people in your niche. most people will follow you back if your account doesn't look like spam. for example if you're promoting an adult page, start following the people who follow adult models.

>What are some good AM programs?
>Clickbank, jvzoo, are mentioned. Is amazon good? I would think it's trustworthy, more so than clickbank maybe.
Those are all good. Clickbank is easier than jvzoo for amateurs. Don't join a half dozen affiliate networks just because you can. You'll be overwhelmed. Stick with 1-2 if you're starting.
Amazon is just as good as any of them. But you will be selling amazon products instead of the typical digital offers you will find on the other networks.
Tip for amazon is sell big ticket items. The reason is simple. You get more commission selling a $500 surfboard than a $10 book.

>>1623472
>using someones name is illegal and they can shut up down with 1 emaiil
Internet is still the wild wild west. Few things are illlegal. I own the twitter account of a popular adult model. There's even a forum dedicated to just that.
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>>1623344
Amazon is more likely to get you sales, but you're only going to be earning something like 2% instead of 20% using an actual affiliate site.
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affiliate marketing has saturated the internet with shit. People trying to make money for nothing developing click bait articles that smoother out the valued information
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>>1623759
Ya, because it works.

Not for everybody but it does work for some.
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>>1622775
>can't twitter ban you for spamming affiliate links etc.?
Jesus Christ I already told you how to do this here >>1620445

>>1623313
Yes, then after a few days you unfollow the ones who didn't follow you back, the ones who are inactive, eggs, and people that don't speak the language you are tweeting in.
Rinse and repeat.

>>1623332
Yeah I know. I did that.
I even had a VA doing that for me for a little while.
It still involves a certain amount of repetitive work.

>>1623521
>Mostly how much effort because so many people in this industry are lazy.
/thread
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>>1623759
Agree, affiliate marketing is super shit, nobody open shitty mails with your referral anymore, and peoples can't be fooled to buy your product, unless you have gazillions of traffic daily, you can hope in 1-2 sales.
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>>1623929

How much is that repetitive work worth to you?
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Bumping threads Im interested in
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>>1623521
While it is in the wild west I'm stuck in america where stealing a person's identity is a big no no.
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i'll bump this because i am interested in AM. i signed up to the stackthatmoney forum for a couple of months and read quite a bit of it, but as a total beginner i don't have enough time to focus on this till after the new year. by the sounds of it it is possible to make good money, but it also looks like a lot of trial and error at the beginning.
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>>1623705
Amazon offers 4% base with the possibility to reach 8.5% if you move enough product. What's 8.5% on multiple items ranging $100-$600?

It adds up
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>>1626662
STM mostly covers PPC affiliate stuff which requires you to invest money to try and make money. There's a lot to earn if you find a good offer but it requires capital

SEO affiliate has lower overhead but takes a lot longer to see results

I can't comment on social media affiliate but I'm sure it's similar in that it takes a long time to earn decent
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>>1626221
take a look at /b/ where every girls picture is posted without permission. or any amateur website. nobody cares about it. dmca's are nbd.

>>1626662
is the forum any good? i thought it would be too high level knowledge for absolute beginners. i got started on free boards and gained a lot of knowledge. they're good for making friends and forming mastermind groups too.
i've seen 'previews' of paid forum threads and didn't seem like anything groundbreaking. but there were a lot of shortcuts to success there. stuff to bypass the trial and error thing. and cool tricks you never heard of but can't really apply unless you have a solid strategy already in place.
for instance i made a script to send my traffic to another page when they were leaving so i can try to sell them again. got the idea from all the clickbank offers that do it. it raised my revenue without having to raise my traffic. a few weeks later i get a newsletter for a paid $99/mo forum that divulges that same script.
you're right that it takes a lot of time. if you don't have a lot of time to dedicate, it's going to be slow. there is a lot to learn at the start. a lot more than you think. most of it is trial and error. or you can pay for training, like most people pay for college. just be careful lot of scams out there.
charles ngo released a newbie fasttrack called affceleator. heard good things about it . focuses on PPC i think. he'ss a good authority on the topic. check it out, i believe there's a free version.
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>>1627201
Sounds intriguing...
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There are all these courses and ebooks, does anyone know where you can pirate them? Can't find much on torrent sites that isn't really old.
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>>1628662
google it. half of what you do in aff marketing is googling shit and solving problems on your own.

most big forums have a section for leaked courses/downloads. you typically have to register to see it.

with that being said, most courses are waste of time because it's just another guys strategy to make money by rehashing old info into a pdf and slapping a price tag on it. not all courses are like that, but most are. use due diligence.

be prepared to put a unique twist to it to unlock big profits. most of the time this is a mandatory step. same goes for anything you read on forums. go in knowing thousands of people read the same thing you just did and are trying the same exact thing. using the same exact examples laid out by the creator.

after a few years of doing it, you'll hopefully learn a ton of different strategies and can combine them all together for something unique and very profitable.
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Just make sure that you don't get sucked into pyramid schemes calling themselves "affiliate marketing" instead of Madoff marketing.
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>>1619889
DAMN LOOK AT DOSE TITS
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>>1628692
Have any other advice you can share? Specifically to avoid common pitfalls--I know making mistakes is necessary but I'd like to avoid as many as possible
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>>1630141
Get a VPS instead of shared hosting. Faster speed = more sales.
If you're promoting a particular offer, join other networks that have the same one and split test them.
malandarras . com/starting-affiliate-marketing has some good tips. Google around you'll find more.
Just take action and start doing.
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>>1630154
I've been watching e marketing for about 5 years now, what do you think of BHW? It seems kind of like the bodybuilding . Com of e advertising
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>>1630232
It's good place to learn. Any big forum is like bb. You can even compare 4chan to it. There's always beginners asking the same dumb questions every day. Just ignore the trolls and go about your business.
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>>1630240
That's what I thought too, I definitely bought some home brewed programs , like Amazon scrappers, and various theme overlays. Pretty solid marketplace they have.
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>>1630154
Do you have any SEO experience? I'm specifically trying to understand why certain posts rank higher than others and I'd like to know which factors I need to be studying.

I know links are HUGE but many times I've been doing KW research and found the #1 post to have paltry backlinks compared to the others in positions 3 or 4.

I just want to be good enough to punch in any KW, study the top positions and understand how much work it'd be to outrank them. Contextual backlinks are huge but they don't seem to be the whole equation
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>>1630339
>Do you have any SEO experience?
Not really. I hear pbn's and expired tumblrs are what's 'working' right now.
> I'm specifically trying to understand why certain posts rank higher than others
You mean websites? Most people use ahrefs.com to audit seo efforts. then they reverse engineer the results to duplicate them. Or so I think. I'm not much of an seo guy.
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>>1631410
>expired tumblrs

care to elaborate on this?
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>>1627042
Is it volume (i.e. many units/amount of sales) or sales revenue (i.e. amount of dollars) that affects the percentage?

Are the limits public, or is it individually negotiated?
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Also how many twitter accounts can I have? Surely if I make 15 accounts and start cross-promoting them twitter will ban my ass?
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>>1632428
Google is your best friend
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+seo+with+expired+tumblr&
I don't know much about it other than I guess you register an expired tumblr that has some seo juice on it and link it to your money site or something.
There's people who sell this service. My friend linked me one salespage where it cost $39 for a few of these expired tumblrs. Not much $ if it can supposedly rank you for low comp kw's. One of the guys in my skype groups says it works well for him.
>>1632443
Pretty sure it's volume. Sign up for amazon associates and see for yourself. And the limits are public.
>>1632495
As many as you want. Only if you use proxies. Most people recommend 2 accounts per IP. You can get away with a lot more depending how hard you're hitting them.
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>>1619889
Did some Clickbank affiliate marketing, ask me anything

Didn't have much success with it. Had my own website (fitness and health niche since I'm /fit/)

Promoted it by posting in fb groups, got a decent amount of traffic (80 each day by posting)

Made 1 sale from posting in groups but it was a cheap item so i only got 8 dollars or 7 dollars cant remember

Then did Bing Ads PPC and made 2 sales in 2 days by spending $3 (Got 38 dollars in return)

Then the ads stopped bringing in any conversions and I stopped that

Affiliate marketing takes time and experience to do it right. If you want to promote products via articles you need your own site with an aged domain, my domain was 1 month old so I wasn't ranking that good in search engines

You need tons of traffic to convert your offers and you need good offers as well. I was promoting the 3 Week Diet, you probably seen it somewhere around the web.

Niche selection is also fairly difficult to do correctly. You can choose an underground or low competition niche but you won't be getting a lot of traffic from that but you'll rank easier. At the same time you won't have a lot of shit to promote

Now I am looking for a niche to start dropshipping via shopify
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>>1633796
> Now I am looking for a niche to start dropshipping via shopify

I'm doing the same now, that is looking for a good niche. I was considering finding suppliers from china/alibaba and shipping products to amazon with the fba program but all things considered it's a lot of investment for a small margin as I just want to test the waters for now.
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>>1632519
So if you don't do SEO are you more into PPC or social media? I only work in SEO but I'm always interested to learn other areas of affiliate marketing

Of course I could go to one of those events like Affiliate Summit but I'd feel a bit intimidated
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>>1634004
dropshipping to amazon is a race to the bottom. everybody does that and they lower the price so people buy from them instead of their competitors on ebay/amazon. create your own store with shopify and import aliexpress products with Oberlo app or manually.

It's all about finding a nice product that:
A. People are passionate about
B. Solves some kind of a problem

Had a few unsuccessful shopify stores and it all went down to picking the wrong product
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>>1634183
That's a great advice, thank you!
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>>1633796
>got a decent amount of traffic (80 each day by posting

That is a horrible amount of traffic and makes your website basically death and useless.
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>>1634239
no it's not horrible traffic for a new website. consider the fact that all of the traffic came from 5-6 facebok groups that i posted
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>>1634239
also, what traffic sources did you use?
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