So what's going to happen to the economy now that he'll

>>1607748

Depends if he still wants to enact his retarded economic policies. If so, we're fucked.

Learn Chinese because the US just handed the planet to China.

>>1607748
like >>1607749 said, if any of his policies become law, then our deficit grows to record-breaking sizes and gdp shrinks to a trickle or reversal. If he doesn't, which is more likely, then it's really more up to Congress and such.

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For starters
http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/08/investing/global-markets-stocks-trump-clinton-us-presidential-election/

Do banks accept payments in frog pictures?

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>>1607749
Haha butt mad lib cuck detected

I'm going to bathe in your delicious tears the next eight years

Nice gay scruffled low_t beard and huge black rim glasses btw

>>1607749

I hate how I have to explain to retards at work that no, we cannot win a trade war with China. But do they listen? No, of course not.

>>1607755
Why are you even here if you prefer fellating an orange billionaire to actually making money?

>>1607767

Most Trumptards are either weeaboo NEETs who voted for him to spite "normies" or blue-collar cucks who believe he can bring back their old manufacturing jobs. Both groups know jack shit about finance and economics.

>>1607770
I really hope Trump will cut Neetbux, that would make them suffer the most

>>1607764

Serious question: why can't we win a trade war against China?

>>1607772

As do I. I'd love to see those idiots hoisted on their own petard.

>>1607772

In all seriousness though, NEETbux and Autismbux will definitely be gone if he was serious at all about his tax policies. There's no way we can have the welfare we have and have tax cuts for the rich like he's describing.

>>1607773

For one, they have a lower cost basis since their workers are paid far less, there are lax environmental and safety regulations plus they can work their people half to death. So unless you want most jobs in America to pay $10,000 a year with no labor rights, 12 hour work days, suicide nets in every office, rampant pollution and escalators eating people then we won't win. Also, China controlls the value of their currency and can quickly devalue it. We could pull the same shit as the Chinese but everyone would drop us as a safe haven and as a reserve currency.

>born and raised in West Virginia
>got the fuck out for college and never looked back
>talk to family back in West Virginia
>they say they're going to vote for Trump because he'll bring back coal
>explain that coal isn't coming back because natural gas and renewable energy is far more cost effective
>they refuse to listen

Well they're going to be disappointed.

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>>1607777
Checked

>>1607755

Trump will be a one term president.

>>1607795

They deserve it.

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I was rooting for him over Clinton, but anyone else concerned about:

>Billionaire businessman president
>Republican House
>Republican Senate

all while we're allegedly on the brink of another collapse? Seems like a speedway to capitalism and big business.

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>>1607748
guys what should i do with my canadian dollars?

obviously not buy mexican pesos, but maybe american dollars?

or is it the right time to invest in the pound? or gold?

>>1607847
I'm sure if you vote against your interests and prop up obsolete industries you'll be a winner.

Still, it's funny. Hillary goes from 90% to a loss. Shouldn't have deleted those emails or insulted potential voters.

>>1607847

I don't get it. We went through this trickle down bullshit with Reagan and it didn't work. Then here comes Trump wanting to cut taxes for the rich and people eat it up again.

I guess most Americans value social issues over their wallet.

>>1607795
The only way coal factories make a comeback is if the government subsidizes heavily due to social policy to prevent unemployement in certain and specific areas were coal is the main and only income source.

Voting Trump for that reason was stupid as fuck, no way that is going to happen

>>1607869

Man, I was a Hillary supporter but I didn't like how she campaigned. Sure there were Trump supporters that acted like idiots but they had concerns and issues that should have been listened to nonetheless. Writing them off seemed like a mistake but I thought she could still pull off a win but clearly I was wrong.

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>>1607754
yes

>>1607749
It'll be Reagan 2.0. Cut taxes, fuck the consequences. It will feel good for a while, yuppie culture, etc., then we'll be bankrupt.

>>1607928
Why would cutting taxes lead to bankruptcy?

>>1607933
What happens when you lose your income?

I feel like my job prospects just took an even bigger nosedive. Any hope?

Any steps he takes against NAFTA will likely hurt Mexico rather than Leafland, and he wants to go ahead with the Keystone pipeline, so it's all good to me. And Republicans in general are usually better for my country.

>>1607946

it uhh trickles down or something?

>>1607961
well are you a mexican?

>>1607992
No but that's not the point?

>>1607749
Name one policy and why it's retarded. Please by all means

>>1607998

Tariffs and bringing back inefficient industries.

But then again he is a businessman he knows that very well, he might have said that to get redneck votes but he won't actually do it.

>>1608021

You're going to need to be more specific. What inefficient industries?

Vague claims and one liners aren't going to convince me.

>>1608021
Isn't it also that as a businessman he wasn't really actually that great a businessman too?

NIGGAS SHOULD'VE VOTED GARY

>>1608024
well one of his main attractions to the rust belt states was that he would get them back their jobs they lost in the decline of the coal industry

Now the options are either subsidizing useless coal production at high costs or just fucking off, which would then most likely cost him the states in 4 years

What's going to happen to Russias economy, now that we can expect the relationship between the US and Russia to normalize?

>>1608025
compared to?

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>>1607748
keeping it realistic


>stock market crashes
>all foreign countries pull out of our market. first europe then russia and china.
>tax cut to top 1% but trump wont make them buy bonds (he prob doesnt even know why they have to buy bonds)
>interest rates soar
>banks pull their 4.5 trillion out of the fed reserve
>800% inflation
>economy collapses
>1% survives. all middle class are now peasants
>literal monarchy ensues
>trump blames obama

>>1608047
Sanctions gone will boost Russia's economy and make the rubble go up most likely

that is if Trump stays on policy

>>1608026
One thing is for sure, this election has proved that the US will always be a two-party system. If two respected, competent, and relatively moderate state governors couldn't benefit from running against two horrible main party candidates then I don't think anyone ever will.

>>1608033

Coal isn't as competitive, but still used seasonally when natural gas prices increase. It's much more competitive than you think. Coal plants can't cycle, so they focus on the long game. Coal, like nuclear, provides a solid foundation for grid stability. You can't simply write it off

Should we expect USD to go down or continue to rise next days?

>>1608080
of course not completely, but if you look at say Nuclear or Renewable energy vs. Coal, it doesn't make sense to make massive investments in it, certainly not enough to catch all those jobs lost in the rust belt

>>1608083

Very true. I'm not too familiar with the rust belt and how renewable energy is being implemented there. I suppose it would be a dumb investment if they're already making leaps in other directions

>>1608080
Coal shouldn't come back for one thing aren't those jobs dangerous both on the job and long term health wise? Why do these people want to do such a dangerous job?

>>1607868
Terrible time to invest in the GPB, it'll drop dramatically when the PM invokes Article 50 at the end of March.

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>>1608102
cuz theyre REAL men. and real men grovel and work unnecessarily dangerous jobs.

>>1608111
Id rather work hard but in a way that let's me live to be able to serve my efforts longer and to later in life enjoy the fruits of my labor, instead of work hard , kill myself and all that effort wasted and nowhere for that money to go or someone who didn't work hard end up benefiting from it who doesn't deserve it.

> Taking his promises at face value, we should expect a trade war that would cripple the US’s export and service sectors and enormous tax changes that would largely benefit the rich (and leave some low- to middle earners worse off).

> But given Trump’s relationship with the truth, for now the only certainty is uncertainty.

https://www.ft.com/content/2490d4dc-a66f-11e6-8898-79a99e2a4de6

Prepare your anus for poverty MAGA

>>1607961

Same. I was planning to look for a new job if Clinton won but now I'm just going to hunker down.

Our investment wing in the company said they saw signs for a recession in 2017. I fear Trump may exacerbate things.

>>1608165

That's one thing I didn't understand, why do Trump supporters believe what he says when he lies and contradicts himself multiple times in a single speech? His positions change rapidly as well so, honestly, we don't know where he really stands on most issues. He may even revert to Clinton-Era Trump and appoint liberal judges to the Supreme Court.

Folks, the electorate didn't care about policy. If they did then Trump wouldn't have stood a chance. This was a meme election.

Personally I am not impacted whatsoever because I work in a recession-proof industry. I've been just collecting cash so I am ready for this eventuality.

The average poor is fucked but they deserve it for voting Republican against their best interests time after time. Fellow liberals we just need to give up on politics and use our knowledge to fuck poors in the ass.

>>1608206

He won't, his cabinet is full of hardcore Republicans and they took both the Senate and the House. Needless to say he's gonna be able to do a lot of damage in his first Hundred Days like pull the rug on the ACA.

>>1607795
WVfag here, wheres you go to college?

>>1608199
Well I'm just a loser who's 30 and never had much of a real job before. Hell I recently months ago had finally found a simple job I felt I could do at a warehouse only to only work there 1 day before at first delays happening my official start because they had to switch buildings but then it turned into "oh we don't have the budget anymore to hire you" so effectively I got laid off after 1 freakin day.

>>1608222

True, but he's still the president. Despite what his cabinet might want or suggest, he may say otherwise. But this is speculation, so we'll have to wait and see but I think you're probably right.

>>1608226

I voted for Hillary and I always felt uneasy how she and many of her supporters belittled and insulted Trump supporters as just angry white men. They are fellow Americans with hopes and dreams. Many have been left behind and simply telling them the world has changed and you better retrain isn't enough. I don't think Trump's policy's will help them but he paid attention to them and gave them hope while Hillary ignored and insulted them. Such a sad situation.

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>>1607815
Why do you think that? Because people are rational? May I remind you that you burgers elected a literal chimpanzee for 2 terms.

>>1608111
>this is legitimately what /pol/ believes
I don't mind /pol/ in general but when they pull their traditionalism shit it's just embarrassing

>>1608054
he will line his pockets Argentina style before that happens and leave town. Fitting that the Latino demographic rises and so does a Central American style Populist with a business acumen to the Presidency.

>>1608245
he was nothing more than a face for a group of corporations allied with career politicians dating back to the Reagan days. Arguably the same thing Hillary would have been. This is something much more sudden and is going to be way more catastrophic, but likely short term.

>>1608226
Oh. So there are NEETs on /biz/ like there are busriders on /o/, and no guns on /k/.

>>1608245
Live and learn trump could be utter trash and not start some sort of war during that time that people feel comfortable voting him out.

So as long as no new armed conflicts start it should be considered a safe bet that unless he does miraculous shit he will likely be voted out.

>>1608230

The office of president doesn't carry the weight you think it does, domestically Congress is stronger than the President and Obama's administration is proof of this power dynamic. The office is really a reflection of the attitude and mood of the American public.

>I voted for Hillary and I always felt uneasy how she and many of her supporters belittled and insulted Trump supporters as just angry white men.

Because the Democrats abandoned their original working class core in favor the smug liberal coastal elites. Vox, surprisingly wrote an objective level-headed article on the cancerous nature smug liberal politics and how it alienated the average American. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberalism

>>1608230
Yeah I agree he tapped into something and it sucks that they felt that way. Sometimes I myself can feel ignored.

>>1608258
Ha well it can happen to anyone really. You do things right and shit doesn't go well. I did things right in that last scenario and really was thinking things were gonna be on a track to be better for myself. Feel like I'm just gonna be stuck with jobs I hate for the rest of my life really. Save for retirement? Save what? Buy a house? As if with it just being me that buying a house will ever make any remote sense. You can't prepare for the future because you don't know what the hell's going to happen.

>>1608267
>Because the Democrats abandoned their original working class core in favor the smug liberal coastal elites.

Can you blame them though? The poors are still clinging on to hopes of being able to work a bullshit, union-protected low-skill job in manufacturing while getting paid well above what they're actually worth to the market.

The only miscalculation on the part of the Dems is not being able to predict Trump, a textbook populist, clinching the nomination of a political party that normally appeals to religious and economic conservatives. If they had, they could have just pushed "meme socialist" Sanders and clinched the rust belt vote like literally every other year.

TrumpCoin is gonna be the currency

Is it worth putting in $ to pay off the volatility? And since nothing major happened last night, when would the next volatility happen? In January'? After?

I like VIX and UVXY. Anyone else similar?

>>1608267
That article was bullshit since it trys to set a notion implying that democracy should mean that ones ignorance is just as good as someones knowledge.

Its like we should accept and coddle anti intellectualism that base things on their feelings about a subject instead the actual facts of it.

It is really such a bad thing to expect more out of people instead of letting them be content and let them wallow in their ignorant bliss and anger?

I understand that people don't like to be told or even be proven wrong and feel put down by people who do that. But I don't think that for a country who bases much of its worth on the value that the work that people produce ,instead of natural resources, should be okay with dumb populace. We should expect more and demand more of them now more than ever given how technology is getting of low skilled labor. So they can fall back on something and still produce worth for themselves and the country.

>>1608024
>Vague claims and one liners aren't going to convince me.

Seeing as how youre defending trump, i think they already have.

Anyone think the dollar increases in value over the next few years?

>>1608321
Calm down libby, I know evidence is hard for you to comprehend.

>>1608306

And that's the type of elitist attitude that led Trump into power.

All the average American wants in life is to have decent wage, be able to purchase property, raise a family on their earnings and be left alone. There's nothing wrong with having humble aspirations in life but both the liberals and neocons make it out to be a crime. Trump was able to talk to the disaffected working class and tap into that mutual contempt between the elites and the rubes to get him into the presidency

>>1608328
I think it is increasing volatile and unstable. Depends on possible tariff war, Chinese relations, and the continued instability in Europe post Brexit

>>1608306
>Its like we should accept and coddle anti intellectualism that base things on their feelings about a subject instead the actual facts of it.

You can bring up intellectualism all you want as an argument, but it doesn't change the fact that these people still live and still have the right to vote. Unless you're going to make it where only people who have college degrees can vote, there's literally nothing you can do about it. The working class is the most populated class, and because of that the winner is always going to be the person who mobilized them, which was Trump. Whether or not he can make a difference is irrelevant to the fact that these people saw no other option than Trump.
Clinton is a career politician, so is Sanders. Trump is a business man who interacts with his workers, that's what set him apart from his competition, that maybe this time it will be different.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/oct/25/bun-fight-french-presidential-cost-pain-au-chocolat


Lets be honest though. There's a limited market for useful degrees, even if these people became more educated it doesn't change the fact that there needs to be a consumer of these goods. The most these educations will produce is better critical thinking and the ability to see what is most important. Although it's also possible that they understood the threat of Clinton, where she wasn't satisfied with a government salary, and instead received speaking payments in the millions.


The last point I want to make is that if the Dems really cared about the working class and the uneducated then they would have appealed to them with facts and policies. Appealed directly to the people, not on social media.

>>1608355
>There's nothing wrong with having humble aspirations in life but both the liberals and neocons make it out to be a crime.

The fuck are you talking about with that projection? No one even said or implied that was or is a bad thing.

Believing that something that sounds good even though its not and having someone explain with facts why its not as good as its sounds is something that someone should be shamed from doing?

Like your really dumb if anything you mentioned has anything to with the topic at hand.

Its fine to want something humble no one has said otherwise. Like are you honestly saying that we should let those suckered in by sweet little nothings that tell them exactly what they want to hear?

Are you really advocating that ones emotions should be more important than fact? Like i don't understand where your getting that other than we should give in to the emotions of dumb people not wanting to feel and be proven dumb.

>>1607754
>merely electing Trump was enough to pound global markets harder than fucking 9/11

Man, meme magic really is something.

>>1608381

If the anticrash measures weren't in place it would have been worse. Think about that.

>>1608370
> like
> like
> like
> like
> like

Ignoring all that, you can't honestly make the emotion argument when the entire Dem voting base was centered on fear mongering
> Racist
> Bigot
> Sexist
These aren't arguments due to the fact that they're only half truths. But the left kept running with them as if screaming it loud enough and believing in it enough will change reality. If people were to watch his speeches they would see the agenda being pushed is wholly untrue.

>thought markets were going to tank today
>prices rise instead
Maybe America really will be great again

>>1608297

Anyone smart on this?

DOW just hit all time high. S&P already rebounding

Liberals, nu males, googles, and feminists, on the wrong side of history

CTR on suicide watch

Democratic party crashing

90% of economists wrong again

Peso is crashing in value

>MAGA: Phase one complete

>>1608410
>90% of economists wrong again

I am seriously starting to think we just do the exact opposite of what an "economist" thinks we should do.

I think one economist was right back in 1977 in the MacDougall Report. That's the only thing I can find.

>>1608370

You write like a fucking Valley Girl.

Listen, instead of calling people dumb and stupid why don't you actually address the issue that causes them to anger and feel disaffected in the first place? Oh wait a minute that means actually having to use your brain instead of parroting talking points and pseudo-intellectual posturing. You're a perfect example of how coastals are completely out of touch with the rest of society.

Calling people dumb and stupid for voting against their own economic interests, and thinking that you know better than them doesn't help convince people the merits of your position. It didn't fucking work for Trotsky when fighting Stalin for control of the party after Lenin's death and certainly didn't fucking work for the Democrats in this current election.

>>1608429

Economics is just modern day divination. Nobody in the business world actually takes macroeconomic predictions seriously.

>>1608210
>I work in a recession-proof industry

Please name some of these industries. Genuinely interested.

>>1607881
We're far enough past Reagan that a lot of older conservatives see him as the "good old days" or something.

>>1608435

It's an influence thing. People have so much power with their words that they abuse their standing in order to have an effect. This is leads to grandstanding and hyperbole that clashes with reality.

>>1608050
Business men who didn't have six-figure allowances as teenagers.

>>1608050
I guess basically this. People like Mark Cuban perhaps? Dunno how /biz/ feels about him? I can't really think of any other similar person that I know off the top of my head.
>>1608466

>>1608050
People without six bankruptcies?

>>1608245
Trump is extremely likely be a one term president by simple math. GW Bush was born in July 1946, Trump in June 1946. Bush was 16 years younger when he first ran for office.

There's no way Trump's keeping office until he's fucking 78 years old. He's already the oldest president to take office right now. He'd be the oldest to leave office if he got a second term. I don't buy it. And to put it into perspective so far only Reagan is playing in the 70+ league anyway, no other president ever has (apart from like the last 100 days of Eisenhower after his 70th birthday).

Not even considering the health aspect - Trump's not a career politician. He'll want his life back very soon. Heck, watching his speeches today it makes you wonder if even he ever considered he'd actually win.

>>1608433
Pretty much this. Clinton and the dems as a whole completely failed to address the problems with Trump's economic policies and instead banked on the social issues and Trump being volatile enough to drive voters their way.

That backfired and she underperformed while Trump's voter base turned out. The Hillary campaign utterly failed at reading the situation.

So where are the investment opportunities going to be? Construction for that wall?

>>1608483

Comey, wikileaks and Russia ruined her more than she did.

>>1608444
Government

>>1608502

If anything healthcare will take a hit because the ACA was a boon for the insurance companies and Trump pulling the rug will hurt their margins.

>>1608444

Not him but I live in NoVa and work in gov't / military contracting. You will always need people to sell shit to the gov't. I voted Trump though even though my county went blue.

>>1608514
Not to mention all the people that get dropped from it no longer paying the premiums.

>>1608502
>>1608514
>>1608517
There's also the fact that Trump is FOR government healthcare, and his plan looks like it's going to completely skip the insurance companies.

>>1608523
But we don't really know what his plan is regarding that, other than repealing Obamacare and starting another state-run system.

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>>1608523

>skip the insurance companies
>mfw

Republican controlled Congress will not allow for subsidized healthcare, the ACA is gone for good once the new Congress is in session. You can't cut the insurance companies out of the picture, they have too much money and political clout to be sidelined like that, that's like trying to take on a grizzly bear with nothing but a knife.

>>1607770
>Trumptard weeb NEETs elect Trump
>announces he wants to tax Japanese imports the next day
Almost makes you think.

>>1608534
I'm curious if now he starts locking in on any sort of policy instead of literally turning with the wind. During campaigning even Trump didn't know what his current plan was when he got up in the morning because he hadn't read the polls about what people liked to hear yet...

I honestly think everythings up for consideration. His promises were inconsistent and conflicting. Why should some count more than others? Maybe he'll keep ACA, who the fuck knows. Trump probably doesn't.

>>1608523
I did notice his plan included a subsidy for medicaid or someshit but I'm thinking "obamacare did that and my state refused to take it" how the hell he expect them to take it now? Personally I don't have health insurance either way and because of the thing with medicaid I couldn't get that as an option.

>>1608534
True, but what we do know is enough to make very general, basic predictions

>>1608539
There are certain things Trump will be able to do that normally wouldn't be allowed. This is one of them.

>>1608530

Check your facts because that's a lie. The direct beneficiaries of the ACA wasn't the public but the insurance companies. Aetna, Anthem, Cigna, Humana and United Health all outperformed the S&P 500 index since ACA was enacted and new insurance companies are actually popping up to take advantage of the opportunities Obamacare provided.

>>1607781
You don't beat China by beating them at their own game. Thats not his intention, and it never was.

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US economy is going to BOOM and so will stocks

this is so much better than hillary

>>1608560
>You don't beat China by beating them at their own game.
Absolutely right.

>Thats not his intention
kek

>Look, having nuclear—my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart—you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world—it’s true!—but when you're a conservative Republican they try—oh, do they do a number—that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune—you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged—but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me—it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are (nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right—who would have thought?), but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners—now it used to be three, now it’s four—but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years—but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.

Yeah, we're going to crash with this man at the helm.

>>1607748
It's gonna be yuuuge

>>1608444

> recession proof industries
food production
entertainment
clothing (low cost)
any government industry

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>>1608576
>MFW donald trump's uncle was legitimately a professor at MIT

>>1608688
Isn't he connected to Tesla as well.

>>1608473
His bankruptcy to success ratio is very high. About 50% of businesses fail within 5 years. He's running hundreds with only 6 bankruptcies, that's pretty good.

>>1608054
hold me

>>1608021
Yes god forbid we add anymore tariffs, you know apart from the 10,000 we already have.

https://hts.usitc.gov/view/release?release=chapter98

>>1607781
What a loser attitude desu

>>1607982
Trickle down economics doesn't work first of all. And second Trickle down doesn't give any money at all to government. Anyway his point still stands. The government will go bankrupt.

>>1608021
He's not gonna use tariffs except for leverage against china, he knows what he does.
He has businesses all over the world

>>1608671

all of those suffer when people spend less

>>1608754

The government IS bankrupt and losing money. Are you saying it will get worse? A lot of macroeconomists thought Brexit would be bad and it hasn't been that bad yet.

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>>1608754
>>1608762

Oh, it'll get worse.

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>>1607755
Whenever liberals lose they run to finance forums looking for vindication. Hilariously I bought in the morning today and had my biggest one day gains all year

>>1607770
B-but he's not going to reverse globalization?
C-can we still have Hillary's free college and free health insurance? Is Obamacare still going into effect in 2017?
>worry
I got a free red hat heh. Trump cares about me

>>1608765

I wonder where he'll get the infrastructure money from. Think the Fed will do another QE? Global finance has become a joke.

>>1608754
'trickle down economics doesn't work'

t. 'I have never studied economics' liberal art major

>>1608778

Trickle down does exactly what it's supposed to, but it made US debt explode.

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>>1607749
>>1607795
>>1607815
>>1607961
>>1608026
>>1608054
>>1608210
>>1608245
>>1608576

>>1608394
>you can't honestly make the emotion argument when the entire Dem voting base was centered on fear mongering

No you are right about that. I am talking in general with not really trying to take party lines into consideration exactly since i do recognize the worst of both sides tend to be over emotional as well.

politically all sides do it at least to some level yeah and the people who buy into that also tend to be the loudest.

and on all sides should not stoke that type of thing either way. even with half truths as you put them. It is something everyone from all side should work on and at least also be classy about. Like with the half truth stuff from all side that all showed a lack of class from everybody which honestly rubbed me the wrong way especially the stuff you mentioned.

But on a side i kinda excuse all mainstream news media since it is all for profit now unlike before where it was done at a loss as long as the facts were reported. And gotta stoke up drama and controversy in whatever way to get the eyes watching. And since there is channel for every side pretty much there is no need for actual fair coverage of both sides since people will just go to the one that tells them what they want to hear. Shit is just entertainment now really.

and with the like shit yeah i am like from that valley girl era and is stuck with me ever since man shit.

All in all im against anti intellectualism from all sides and feel that it should be tolerated as little as possible to help people and society grow to better improve everyone life.

In America the wealth comes from the people so what better way to build upon that wealth then by improving the people as a whole.

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>>1608762
The government isn't broke at all... A government loan isn't like a house mortgage, it's a smart investment option.

>>1608762
Brexit hasn't happened yet. Businesses are hoping it get's push bad indefinitely or that they end up with a "soft" Brexit.

>>1608803
>mainstream news media since it is all for profit
That is true, probably the biggest reason I don't bother reading anything that is of a political nature because there always seems to be an inherent bias.
I thought they were pushing an agenda due to their collusion with the DNC and their donations to the Clinton Foundation, but as they broke down it became increasingly obvious that these people really aren't good at reporting. They weren't impartial in the slightest.

I hope that this election has destroyed the people's faith in the media, and that from the rubble we might get something good. On the other hand we might just get more clickbait because that's where the money seems to be.

>>1608762

>Posts on a business and finance board
>Doesn't understand how government deficits work

Back to /pol/ adults are talking.

>>1608778
"I have no idea what I'm talking about"

No actual economist has ever supported the idea of trickle down economics outside of being paid to support it. Reagen's budget director, the guy that came up with the idea, was not even an economist he studied history and theology or some shit.

Educate yourself before you talk shit.
https://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/sdn/2015/sdn1513.pdf

>>1608774
the same place as always, cutting education and healthcare

>>1608877
Nice, a dumber and unhealthier populace. I didn't think America could get worse in that way. Let me guess, he's going to increase spending in military and policing.

>>1608297
>>1608409
get some vix calls for Dec 16. the FOMC meeting where they'll decide to raise rates is Dec 13/14. Kinda hard to say what strike to pick. Buy ATM or, preferably if you can afford it, ITM. Don't buy ATM if VIX is higher than 15.

>>1608245

The way dems are pissed off, and if they get someone that's *not hillary* in 2020, then it's not entirely possible. 7 million democrats stayed home for this election and Hillary lost the swing states by 1 point on average.

>>1608923
Why not cut education? Most kids there are just along for the ride and don't care, it's a waste of money
Kids that care have AP classes

>>1608939
to amend this, I strongly suggest selling the calls dec 12 or 13 before meeting results are announced. If you wait for results you may make a good chunk of change or have wasted your money; it's gambling. However, by selling on the 12th or 13th you capitalize on guaranteed nervousness about a rate hike.

don't tell anyone. I only drop tips here b/c it helped me learn some stuff. the more people you tell the less we'll make.

>>1608946
Trump is planning on cutting education.

>>1608510

If I had to rank by importance the reasons why she didn't win it'd be;

1. Not charismatic/relatable
2. E-mails
3. Obamacare costs going up right before the elections
4. Wikileaks
5. Comey and his letter
6. Clearly bias mainstream media
7. Too much focus on social issues

>>1608809

Our debt ceiling has been passed multiple times and fed interest rates are still at 0%. We're broke.

>>1608381
all magic comes with a price

>>1608923

His 100 day plan is to freeze all government hiring EXCEPT for military and safety workers. He's also going to build new infrastructure and the wall. Then he's gonna give people a choice in their education and repeal Obamacare.

>>1608943

Voter suppression numbers will come out soon. I want to know the financial demographics behind the white women who voted Trump.

Nothing will hapten, nothing will change regarding immigration.

Trump is going to support LEGAL people who do not break laws or face opinion backlash.

Trump is good, relax.

>>1608778
Show me some evidence it works better than government. There is pleanty of proof to support government funding contributes to job growth.

>>1608105
This is bad analysis. It may drop transiently because of derps like yourself, but we now have a decent idea of what is going to happen.

>>1607748
tbhq he doesn't really care much about the nuts and bolts of governing

he's just going to do whatever his very business friendly admin tells him to do

>>1608794
Sanders
>masturbators who want to be taken care of, and hate themselves for it.
>use black lives matter to have purpose in life

Trump
>winners who fuck real women, people of action
>competitors who want the competition out, and work to feel the sweet taste of winning

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>>1608473

Trump should take lessons from Elon Musk lol, bunch of failed companies... im sure they'll get along great

>>1608952

Thank you

>>1607781
But what if we make the import tax more? China needs the USA to consume all of their products and shit

>>1607748
The jobs are going to come back... The illegal immigrants will be deported and the American people will have the jobs, not the illegals. I think the wall will generate thousands of jobs. What the politicians have been doing to our coal, our steel... Terrible. Theyre all coming back. And even manufacturing as well. Believe me, it's going to be sooo beautiful

>>1609276
D-Donald? Is that you?

>>1608444
Funeral homes, morticians, etc.