>want to be a millionaire by 30 >literally no way to do

>>1527753
>getting lucky in business
oh, it takes more than just luck.
luck is an important part, but if you think that's all it takes you're not going to make it anyways.

travel back to 2009 and obtain thousands of bitcoin for a few cents, you will be a millionaire now

>>1527766
Why can't I send back only a one word message to myself?
This time-space thing sucks

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>>1527753
>be 30
>decide I want to be a millionaire and not a wageslave
>think of how rich people make money
>whycantiholdalltheseideas.jpg
Fuck excuses.

lol. a milion is only 2740 a day. are you really telling me you can't figure out a way to do that?

>>1527770
Even if you could've told yourself to buy bitcoin, you'd still probably be poor...

There's no way you'd have known it would hit $1200.... you probably would've bought at $1 and sold at $10.

Then freaked out when it went to $30, so you'd rebuy at $30, then it would drop to $16 and you'd panic sell....

Then it'd go to $80 and you'd freak out again, and buy it.... then it'd drop to $20 and you'd panic sell again....

Then you'd commit suicide.

>>1527905
BIZ IN A NUTSHELL

>>1527753
Me too man....cant just some billionaire give me 2 millions that would be enough

You should try for it anyway, who knows what can happen? At least do something

>>1527905
Holy shit that's accurate.
Do you trade?

>>1527854
Yeah, but how are those ideas working out for you?

I have so many ideas but none of them seem to be working.

>>1527905
If bitcoins were such a good investment that that's what my future self chose to tell me with his one opportunity to send back a message through time I'd probably at least hold until I could cash out a million

>>1528736
Ay this, idc though I like working on them and dreaming. At least I'm glad I finally start to get of my ass and actually do something.

Hope my next idea works out, I give it a 10% chance of succeeding.
Well I'm probably gonna make some prototypes so at least I can put that in my portfolio.

>>1527753
Either way...

If you're worth enough to a business to earn a 80-100K salary, you'll probably be able to make more yourself if you put your mind to it.

One of my friends who barely graduated high school got into food distribution and now he's making well over 400K/year.

The simple thing people don't realize is that established industries that don't have heavy capital requirements will pay better than your average 9-5 after 1-2 years almost every time.

People get 9-5s for security. You don't necessarily NEED that luxury in your 20s, especially if you have parents to support you if things go wrong.

People are way too risk averse and default to the wagecuck lifestyle like clockwork.

>>1529375
which established industries are these?

>>1528856
Getting a fast 10x gain is crazy.... There's no way you'd have known where the top is, and it's very evident that you've never really traded before.

>>1528450
I do, yes.

I did this (sort of) with Ethereum. Ended up with $40k profits instead of the $150k i would've had if i just bought and held (at current prices).

I learned from it, but still don't particularly think I did anything wrong. Timing investments perfectly is nigh impossible, and walking away with $40k after 9 months is great performance.

If you get hung up on 'what you could've made if you timed it perfectly', you'll just get depressed and stressed.

Its an unrealistic goal, OP.

Trying to be a millionaire by the time your 30 is ridiculous, you'd either have to born with a silver spoon in your mouth or be the luckiest asshole on the planet.

Unless you want to sell drugs or rob banks, you're not going to be a millionaire by the time you are 30 unless you win the lottery.

>>1529864
I'm 27 and worth around 2m. Family was poor, and I was almost homeless for a few years.

Created a software company and am doing really well now.

I guess I consider myself lucky in that I'm naturally talented at everything I do.

>>1529896
When did you start learning how to code/software?

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>>1527753

>scrap all savings together
> turn 30
>1 million cold hard cash
>mcdonalds employees are flipping burgers making $100,000 a year
>all that effort, squandered
>apply to mcdonalds university
>its $30 million for a 2 year mcsociates degree
Hold the onions extra mac sauce on my grave please

>>1527854
This, so much this.

Try a lot of things out. It can be selling on eBay, starting a drop ship business, selling scrap metal, IT freelancing, etc. You will find your groove and what wakes you up at 4AM. Learn by reading books by successful people and meeting successful people. Do whatever it takes to immerse yourself in money making.

The real problem you will soon face is what to do with your money once you have it. It is way easier to make money than to spend it. You could invest and lose it all, you could be an anti-social recluse, you could do a H&B tour, etc. Success, when you're not ready for it, can be your downfall.

>>1529375
>The simple thing people don't realize is that established industries that don't have heavy capital requirements will pay better than your average 9-5 after 1-2 years almost every time.

Sounds like a fairy tale. Established industries have the most regulation and competition. How can you compete against the big fish with little capital?

>>1529439
sub-saharan warlordship

>>1528736
I only resolved to no longer be a poorfag and take control of my financial life about three weeks ago. I'm still working my wageslave job because it is for a family startup business, but I have handed in my notice of resignation and will make myself available as a contractor, with much stricter terms and conditions(higher pay, pay per hour, penalties for short notice) they will have to agree to while they find a replacement.

As for the ideas themselves, you just have to watch what rich people do to make money for a while, and then look at poor people to see what they don't do.

Not all of these are business ideas specifically, some are things like how they manage themselves. One key thing I noticed is that successful people tend to have a much higher degree of control over how they spend their time and don't have managers; that is, they don't go to 9-5 jobs and have someone breathing on their necks all day, they manage themselves.

So my first goal is to reach that point of independence, I will have to take up freelance jobs as I need capital for certain expenses such as decent clothes, hardware and such. The next step is to focus on what I already know, developing a web development business since I have a fair bit of experience as both a front- and back-end developer, in addition to business process management engineering experience.

I'll focus on specific types of clients with the highest pay to work ratio, small business and such that aren't finicky, with a well laid out contract agreement for each phase of the development to protect against clients that waste your time(which I have bad experience with). Lots of small sites with residual hosting and support income is a good investment too.

I don't know yet if I'll keep this as a one-man show or scale it up into a full on firm to take on larger but higher paying web application development, I'll have to see how things go. But, if done right I know I can attain a degree of efficiency no one else can.

>>1527905
me lmao

>>1529858
Except there's any number of things you could have done seven years ago and netted over a million, if you had the power of hindsight. Don't forget, this is not something you would mull over for a couple of hours, you would have years to think about what this message you have been sent really means, you would think about what exactly you could have told your past self in 2002, and how much you would gain with that information, and you'd probably come up with many ways to have made millions with little investment. I wouldn't have to know the top, only that it's high enough to retire. If that's when it's at $10, or $30, or $80, or $1200, then so be it. What kind of retard with the chance to send back a message to the past would send his past self with relatively few savings something that will net him a lousy 1000% return, when he could just give a lottery number or "Leicester15/16"?

>>1529896
>a software company

Elaborate?

>>1530499
I started getting serious about stocks about a week ago in order to take control of my own finances as well...

Feels much better than being a stagnant neet with no prospects.

My gains aren't that great, and I don't have much to put into it, but I'm confident I'll make a lot of progress next year.

Check my 61!

>>1530660
Yeah, while I technically have a job, work trickles in and I'm basically a neet 4 out of 5 working days. I have to be on standby the whole week though, so getting other work is a bit difficult, and had to cancel appointments before because of short notice of work because my boss/uncle goes and makes appointments with clients without checking if I'm available. The pay is literal slave tier due to it being a startup. So, I've had enough, but want to exit gracefully since family.

So basically I realised I allowed myself to get fucked around.

Luckly I have neet benefits(no rent, free food) so the low pay isn't that bad, but my car has been broken for months now and I can't afford to fix it.

But I literally will get paid more to do shitty freelance work like transcription, except with something like that I can work as much or as little as I want or need. I need to do this though to build up capital for basic shit like decent clothes for seeing clients, fixing my car, and better hardware for development and testing.

So I might have to do this for the better part of a year still, but that is fine, aside from the technical stuff I need to work on my sales, marketing, and other underdeveloped skills.

If I can get just one client a month I can fully sustain myself, but I should be able to handle half a dozen at a time without overworking.

As I mentioned, I don't know if I'll keep it a one man show or expand into a firm, but one of the things why I might not go the firm route is that if I build up decent capital(I'm pretty frugal due to years of neeting), I'd like to play the investor/venture capitalist game.

>>1530636
Easy to say that, but i guarantee you'd have sold well before it was even $100 if you bought at <$1.

>>1530780
If I'd thought to acquire >10,000 of them, sure

>>1527753
>be me at 19
>find shitty house from the 40s
>get 5k loan from parents and 30% of profit at the final sale of the house
>get loan for 20k
>buy house at 160k
>fix up house
>rent/live in house for a while to avoid taxes
>sell house for 421k
>use profit to do smaller flips
>at 21 apply for a ups franchise
>open store at 23
>by this time own 3 rental properties
>store revenue around 400-500k a year
>opening another soon and looking at other rental properties

Won't say that luck isn't a factor, but it's more about getting people to work with you and securing capital

>>1530284
My boss always asks me what i would do for 500.-
I think this os the right mindset

>>1527753
I am 24 (ex-neet) and will have my first million in about 9 months at my current rate. My advice to you is to start reading and researching about internet marketing. No, not affiliate programs like the retards here shill. Brand some piece of shit Chinese product yourself and sell it to idiots online.

>>1530847
Mad jelly.
God for you if true.

>>1530889

>Brand some piece of shit Chinese product yourself and sell it to idiots online.

Everyone and their mother is doing this. You're either some kind of marketing genius (which I highly doubt you are), or you've found a niche product that isn't already saturated as hell which is pretty much impossible to do nowadays.

>>1527753
>start study business
>start study personal finance
>idea will come by magic
>i mf no idea poofs you now have the knowledge and skills to helo someone produce their business
>ipo
Profit.

>>1530847
How did you pay for a 160k house with a 20k loan?

>>1529281
This is the drive i like to see. This is why i come here. Like minded people. Not shillcoins or stockfags. Not wage cucks. You anon. The way i see it, 9/10 businesses fail. So, theoretically you have a 100% chance of owning a business until you die if you just poor your soul into trying it 10 times. Its not easy or everyone would do it.

The thing is tho, how many people are willing to start and fail 10 fucking businesses? Thats a shit ton of money, heartache, and despair. It could take you 11 even. Or 100... Or never!

Most people can't handle that shit. But we can.

I have been fucked up depressed and suicidal lately. Last Sunday I descided to change. And not just a little. Not be a tryhard faggot. I made a list on papee of EVERYTHING that I wanted in my life. And then I stared at each individual thing on that list. And descided what i would give up to achieve it.

Lose 100 pounds. Well, not fun but ill never eat a cheeseburger again if that's the case. Or maybe celevrate like 1 time a year with one.

Get rich. Donate all ALL of my freetime untill i feel like i'm getting depressed. Drop everything, do whatever it takes to find peace. Quick drive, hobby, few day break etc... then get back and hit it even harder.

I want to stop fighting with my wife who ive been with for 15 years. We simoly are not happy. Have no physical relationship. Some time soon i would like to leave with little guilt. We are about 30 grand in debt. What would i give up to feel like i can walk away and make me happy while saving her from being in a fake marrige? Everything. My motorcycle, camper, 3 extra cars, anything of value i own that is not sentimental is currently for sale online. I picked up extra shifts and got a part time job. The faster the better the way i see it.

Etc. I'm on day 4 of chicken and rice, lifting, seeking only positive friends and dodging the downers, taking second looks at all the motivational posts on fb.

Gl anon!

>>1530004
TOP

FUCKING
KEK

>>1530284
I agree. Poorfag checking in. I'd simply save my wealth and invest small amounts until i get the hang of it. Then just start throwing cash at real estate, and oil around here. Stockpile physical reserves of silver with the extra or gamble on ipo. Become an angel investor and philanthripist or non cock vc. Take a small stake instead of 90% on a cointoss of my money beibg gone or turned into millions. As long as you arent a cuck and can eaither develop a rich mindset or learn to budget like a poor person with a mill or 2 when u have 40 you'll do just fine.

>>1531238
good luck and god speed my friend. we're all gonna make it.

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>>1531238
This is also what I like to see as well.

>Lose 100 pounds.
>>Etc. I'm on day 4 of chicken and rice, lifting,
I'm only aiming for about 38lbs, but I'm already down 18lbs. We're all gonna make it brah.

>seeking only positive friends and dodging the downers
I'm doing this too. Sadly that basically means I have one friend left, but he is a bit of a financial dumbass despite being one of the most positive people I know. Perhaps a bit too positive.

>taking second looks at all the motivational posts on fb.
Here have one of my favourite motivational thingies.

>>1530499
Can you make apps? A friend and i may want to do business. We are all poor but u seem to have my exact same mentallity. We have a oretty good idea and im not affraid to help whst i can. I have studied personal finance and continue to do so on a daily business. Had 1 business for a year but profits were so negligable i gave it up. Insane time requirements for littlw pay. I could have uped it, but i am a wagecuck and ill never find a job like this again if i leave...

>>1530660
I hoghly suggest you study personal finance and stock (options)

Youll thank me later.

Good luck!

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>>1530661
WHOA!

>>1527753
I feel you, I have a really good idea that could potentially make me a millionaire, but it requires an investment of at least 20k, and I'm afraid to take the plunge, and that's all my savings

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>>1530847
Nice work anon.

If u didnt know, you dont have to live in one. Hold for 1 year and 1 day after close and the gubment sees you of an investor instead of a flipper and wont rape you on taxes.

Sketchy area here.

Proof of this is u just unknowingly commited tax fraud

>to avoid taxes.

What is tax avaiding?

Lol, however if you said something like (fits into my tax plan.) Or (in order to reduce my taxes to the lowest level possible.) Then this is fine.


Its a stupid and fucked ordeal. I dont agree with it and i fidnt write it. But im fuck sure gonna follow it.

Good luck anon.

Highky consider u dont keep property in your own name but u probably dont.

Keep it up bruh!

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>>1530847
Nice work anon.

If u didnt know, you dont have to live in one. Hold for 1 year and 1 day after close and the gubment sees you of an investor instead of a flipper and wont rape you on taxes.

Sketchy area here.

Proof of this is u just unknowingly commited tax fraud

>to avoid taxes.

What is tax avaiding?

Lol, however if you said something like (fits into my tax plan.) Or (in order to reduce my taxes to the lowest level possible.) Then this is fine.


Its a stupid and fucked ordeal. I dont agree with it and i fidnt write it. But im fuck sure gonna follow it.

Good luck anon.

Highly consider u dont keep property in your own name but u probably dont.

Keep it up bruh!

>>1530889
How to build a brand? Reccomendations?

>>1531349
>>1531238

Dumb fat fucks. Try barely making rent and needing to GAIN weight.

This time last year i was homeless living in the gutter. I now own a digital marketing agency that routinely subcontracts overflow out to 3rd world countries (with my supervision of course).

You will never know what it feels like going from homeless tier to middle class to (hopefully) rich.

You really want some motivation try sleeping in Goldengate park for months haggling with bums and degenerates to survive. Begging, borrowing, stealing and burying every dollar in a flower garden in the park until you have enough to put down on an apartment out of town.

At least you have something. Leverage whatever that is and get to work. There's no shame in taking that loan from your rich uncle, borrowing money from your folks to start something you believe in. I wish i had any of those luxeries

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>>1531359
>Can you make apps?
In theory, yes, in practice, I'm way too rusty. It has been about 4 years since I last built anything as I started doing other things and then fell into neetdom for a bit.

My current plan focuses a lot on freeing up time for me to get back up to scratch, and I estimate this to be a few months, especially since I'm switching from a php and node.js environment to a python/django environment.

Regardless, I'm targeting clients that don't need apps at first, just basic websites that don't require much, if any, back-end, as I can pump these out really fast, and worst case, easily get a decent wageslave job doing this at a firm.

Thanks for the interest though, but I doubt I'd be able to really be of help at this moment.

Although, perhaps as >>1531238 mentioned:
>seeking only positive friends and dodging the downers
maybe we should start a little support/social group for us likeminded impoverished but intrepid entrepreneurs. Maybe an irc channel or a discord?

>>1527753
In 10 years, Bitcoin will be worth £10,000+ and fags like you will wonder why you didn't buy today. Stay poor

>>1531182

Poster here but on different pc so my ID is off:

No, whats saturated right now is people rebranding a Chinese product and then resigning themselves to selling it on some dogshit platform like Amazon. The smarter folks will figure out how to use Facebook but even this is still just the tip of the iceberg. The real money is in learning how to leverage native advertising platforms like Taboola/Revcontent/Outbrain to sell your product. Beyond that it's pretty much TV infomercials which is the final form of every massively successful internet marketing campaign I have seen.

>>1527753
Rob a bunch of banks
>Find a rural bank with a high average response time
>walk in with assault rifle and as big a backpack as youre comfortable with
>make them empty the vault. Probably about $25k
>speed off on dirt bike to a secluded dirt road where getaway van is
Boom. Repeat in a different county every day for 40 days

>>1527855
Yes

>>1531474
>Who is the IRS

Unless you have a very good laundering scheme in place before you start this, you'll be found out.

>tfw you realize it takes money to steal money

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>>1531423
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4DQ5jDhACU

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>>1531349
Good work anon. It's pretty exciting because i'm not remotely even affraid of failing. I actually want it this time. Instead of just dieting because im fat im dieting because i want to live. I want the attention of pretty girls. I wanna feel better. 100 pounds is a guess. Im about 280lb. Naturally big uper body luckily so i look good just not eating dumb shit. Found pics from 10 years ago and i don't even look like the same person. I get it with the friend thing to. I have absolutely 0 friends that arent financially retarded and i cant find any around here. Its a small town with the good ol boy hard work mentality. Same way i was. Once things calm down ill put that mentality towards getting rich and being good looking. Until last sunday i wanted to eat a bullet. Im a fat neckbeard fuck. Had some chick hit on me and didnt even notice. Some friends were teasing me and i didnt believe it. One of my friends is 10/10. I'm not gonna make it weird because she genuinly has a perfect personality. And for now im married. But she's brutally honest. Looked me right in the eye and said "i'd say you're a 6-7/10. We were drunk and my other friend thought it was rude. But we have discused this sort of thing before. I apreciate brutal honesty. She said sorry but i was excited. Ive been struggling to be a 3/10 at best and hating myself. She looked genuinly sad and said if you dropped some weight and kept your beard neet you'be an 8 or a 9 easy. Maybe a 10 if you got shredded, but i like big guys. Never in my life did i think i could be a 6. But an 8? it's almost like winning the lottery. That changed my life forever. I'll strive for a 9 so i dont have to live in the gym and settle for an 8 when i wanna party and have a good time for a day or 2. Having a 10 tell you that you can potentially be a 10 is a very profound thing when u wake up drunk every day pissed because you're not dead... Good luck on the rest of the weight loss anon!

>>1531474

You're not going to get that much from grabbing what's in the registers, try a few thousand. You may get away with being an amateur and doing that once but on the 2nd or 3rd time the FBI will get involved.

>>1531497
Bitcoin tumbler

>>1531503
Try reading the post youre responding to before actually responding to it you fucking faggot

>>1531502
>wanting to leave your wife get a new job and change every aspect of yourself both physically and mentally because some drunk bitch who friendzoned your fat ass gave you the slightest bit of attention
Holy kek. Guess how I know youre gonna fail?

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>>1531423
Well, fortunately for me i have been homeless. I lived in my car until i had to sell it for food...

I grew up in a trailer park.

My homeless stint was short, but i "get it."

Through a fuckton of hard work and hours i quit giving a shit about my life and started drinking. Hard. 6 months ago my best friend had me set meat out and promissed to help me learn how to grill. ...then he went and shot himself.

Homelessness ain't shit compared to that level of pain. Self doubt. And self hatred. Justified or not i became a miserable fat fuck and if heaven is a place on earth it is waking up from this nightmare and reaching for greatness out of enjoyment and excitement rather than waking up praying to die.

Grats on your success anon.

>>1531374
Ask yourself why are you saving? fuck it spend the 20k most people could recoup that in 2 years when saving. Man up pussy, unless you truly in your mind know that the idea and plan isn't good enough, and in that case stop clutching at straws

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>>1531426
FUCK YES. Discord. I dont know how to do it. (Dl yesterday) but i was smart enough to join a group. Perhaps u can throw together a generic forum for us? Legit one of my hobbies when i get rich is bidgeting for road trips. I used to drive a truck and hated all the shit i missed out on. Could never stop. Been through vegas like 15 times. Not 1 fucking slot machine... i olan on roadtriping to reconect with old friends. I have accepted most all of them will be poor and tired from work, but would love if i crashed on the couch and bought dinner and beer. Its relatively cheap to feed 5 people and spend a bill at the liquour store. And yes, im bot a tard. I will budget this and only take vheao trips and only when the funds are there.

I'll put u on the list sometime anon. Ill buy everyone in the channel a beer when i make it rich.

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>>1531431
Thank u for this. Have a funny meme cause i dunno if tits is allowed?

>>1531531

Sorry for you loss broanon, shit happens life is rough man.

It's fucked up and cliche but these kinds of things either break you or make you stronger. You don't seem broken yet.

All the advice i have to give seems so trite but; one step at a time. Read a lot. Read The Art of War, The republic, Marcus Aurelius's Meditations. Books like this will get all the bitch out of you. Realize that you have potential but don't be content with that because potential is nothing without action.

Anyone with sub average IQ and opposable thumbs can do very well themselves. Now imagine what you're equipped to do - don't spend too long imagining.

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>>1531520
>wanted to leave my wife for years. Finally have the sac do do it.
>i dropped 65lb easy and just gained it all back because i didnt give a shit and hated myself.
>friendzoned by a drunk chick.
Wewlad... other way around there boyo. I said im married. Shes oerfect in every way, but im not convinced 2 people are supoosed to spend forever together. If and when we should date it will be a long time from now. She is just out of a 3 year relationship because she wants a marrige and kids and he didnt. I had a vasectomy and fucking hate kids. And i will never marry again. The 2 things she wants most in life i can not and will not give her. She means to much to me to ever accept a 1 night stand wven if she threw herself at me. She fucking loves me, as a friend. Part of this self change is being a better friend. I probably got her laid actually. And the guy she was talking too seems pretty chill. We may become friends. I'm busy getting my shit together. I havent had a girl touch my dick in a year and itll be longer because im not fucking my wife again. It will be several months before we get a divorce.

Never said im quitting my job. Love my job. I will die here if i dont get rich and retire.

If you're going to be a tryhard cunt then fuckoff back to /b. Faggot...

>here, better put these on you basement dwelling fuck.

>>1531570
Thanks man. Mah, i drank a little too much a few months ago and grabbed my pistol and set down and stared at a blank wall for what felt like hours. When i reached for my gun i turned around to see a picture on the wall ive seen a million times. Me and about 10 friends i never see. Its not that hard to see them if i make an effort. But for whatever reason i havent. Trued to shake it off and reached again. I'd sat it on a stack of personal finance books. Wasted potential for all of my friends and family.

Descided i can actually get rich and if im blowing my brains out i should at least save some cash for my funeral so they dont have added stress. Then i realised i really could be rich. So i may as well.

My buddy leaving was the hardest thing thatll ever happen to me. That one foot in front of the other bullshit rings true though. I havent been legit happy or excited about a single fucking thing until i pulled my head out of my ass.

>>1531587
Oh youll definitely retire early when you die of a heart attack at 45. Youll never lose the weight. Youll never get the girl. She was never interested in your fat pathetic ass she was being polite. Youre a fucking useless sexless waste of oxygen and you can set your goals as high as you want, youll die fat and miserable. Go ahead and eat the bullet

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>>1531551
Well, I figured might as well see how this could turn out, so I made a discord thing.

I have never used discord before but it seems straight forward enough.

Anyway, all anons welcome, but I'll probably kickban anyone I don't like, link is https://discord.gg/pZ5z7Dk

>>1531587
>friend-zoned
>gets someone else to fuck her
>proud
I didn't believe in the cuck meme until this exact moment.

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>>1531621
Lol, good god man. You know how i know i'm right? Because this kind of negstive bullshit doesnt even bother me. It honestley makes me sad a little that cunts like you can't wake up. If i die at 45 then i have almost 15 to get rich and set my family and friends up with a trust fund or something.

If i never get the girl fine? Pretty sure i dont want her. I just dont have very many attractive female friends that arent married. Cant be pining ofter my friends wives. Thats a dangerous thing. What i will have though is a 15 year friendship with an extremely pretty girl with a badass personality who is brutaly honest and can give me a womans persoective on anything i need. She will undoubtedly wind up with a Chad. But not a cunt chad. A bro. At some point she may attract a great freind for me to hang with who knows im not gonna fuck his hot wife. If i ever in my life for the next so u say 15 years want to make a girl jealous is post a pic on fb of us hanging on each other or her giving me a kiss on the cheek.

If and when u manage to get out of your mom's basement you will realise that you can have friends of the opposite sex of you dont make it weird. And it is beneficial as fuck having them aside from the obvious confidence boost and freindship.

So i tell you what. You go ahead trying to squash those that u think are beneath you anon.

I'll spend my life trying to help them up. We will die knowing we got each others backs and when i become a millionaire or whatever and help someone so the same who is 10 times the grinder i am, you recon maybe he would want to do business with me? I would think. Helping other people helps you a lot more than i thought. For example. My friend unknowingly helped keep me from killing herself.

Now she has a wingman and a loyal fried that will be there for her for 15 years.

Staymad friend.

>>1531630
Joining. Phone being a cock. Its not a bad app. And u made it. U are modgod anon. Thanks.

>>1531630

It's awful lonely in here. Just joined the channel, app developer - web stuff etc.

>>1527753
I just put 1k into a forex last week and already at 15k

You gotta believe... but then again I've been betting it all on each transaction

Hedging.

>>1531678
>Because this kind of negstive bullshit doesnt even bother me
O no doubt youre fired up and motivated right now. Itll last a week or two. Hell maybe more than a month. But this level of change you seek is hard. You cant just diet off 100 pounds. You have to make fundamental changes to your lifestyle. You dont have that amount of effort and willpower inside you. If you did you wouldnt have gotten that fat to begin with
>It honestley makes me sad a little that cunts like you can't wake up
wake up from what? Im on track to meet my goals. My body looks the way i want. I have a beautiful wife and daughter i love. My sex life is phenomenal. Im on pace to meet my savings and retirement goals and have plenty left over to fulfil my hobbies. Im not the miserable one here
>you can have friends of the opposite sex of you dont make it weird
Your whole post is so beta it hurts. You admit your relationship is a sham. You admit shes hot and a great personality. Why wouldnt you want to fuck her/date her? Unless you have the test levels of a japanese schoolgirl the only answer is you know you cant. You know youll fail so you just wont try. Fucking pathetic. Youll never be thin. Youll never be rich. Youll never get the dream girl. I will because i know what hard work is. Your wont because youre a fat lazy shit who thinks after 30 years of gas station burritos he can just change who he is with some chicken and rice and motivational facebook posts. Thats not how life works. Accept it and move on

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>>1531630
Maybe im retarded but am i not doing it right???

>>1531633
Lol, whatever man. Im honestley not sure if id ever fuck her anyway. She's been through some shit i wont mention here but i honestly dont know if i could handle being with her. Not sure how not cheating on my wife makes me a cuck. Not sure how being superwingman and getting my friends made makes me a cuck. Im not gonna be in the dark corner of the room with a ciggerette jerking off.

I dont understand why you even care about it? I dont...

>>1531770
I don't know the mobile app, maybe look for something like "find a server".

Otherwise, maybe search for the user bizmuth#0976

>>1531775
>girl youre attracted to both physically and mentally
>help other guys fuck her
Memes aside thats the literal definition of cuckery. Beta fuck

>>1531700
LOL!!! NICE WORK.

>>1531761
Pfff. A week or a month cause someone on /biz was a cock. You sound like youre trying to prove your happiness to yourself anon but whatever.

Fine, i'll admit it. I really do wanna fuck her and im 100% she would not. Even if there was a chance i wouldnt. And anytime that thought enters my head i push it away. If it is ment to be it will. If not then i will keep it squashed. If i ever find i cannot control it i will tell her that we cannot be friends and hangout anymore because i love her. And i can't keep faking like i dont. Ill tell her i tried and that will be it.

And yeah, i know it's a lifestyle. I honestly am not even hingry right now because i used to stress eat. And im not stressed. A 100 calory grenola bar is all i had today and didnt even want it. Trying to keep my metabalizm up.

Its strange how life changes arent even that hard if you have the drive and the motivation i do.

There are like 3,000,000,000 women on earth. Assuming i am a 5 and so are half of them that would have me then there are 1,500,000,000 1.5 BILLION chances for me to "get the girl." Not even i can fuck that one up. For the forseeable future though i wowking on me and my future. Ill deal with getting pussy when i can land someone seemingly out of my legue.

Staymad tryhard.

>staymad

Pic related

>>1531780
Whatever. Fine. Im a fat neckbeard beta faggot. I seem to be in the right place. Showed me a text of a friend of ours trying to hit on her. She oretty much avoids him now. For the time being i am happy, getting healthy, liffting while shitposting, not drinking etc...

She changed my life for the better. Say i do make a move. Say she avoids me or worse says fuckoff dont talk to me again?

Cuck or not it my life and she is about to go through an extremely stressful situation. Shes going to need her friends around for support. Not trying to fuck her.

Besides. If she told me to fuckoff i undoubtedly would flip a 180. Im no good to anyone skating through life drunk and depressed. At least i'm somewhat uselful to those around me now.

So fine. Im a cuck. But in being so i will be the healthiest and hapoiest i will evef be.

100% worth it.

What's a good beginner investing book? I want to read as much as possible before getting in to stocks.

>>1531587
You know the whole cuck meme is meant to be a joke right?? Kek kek kek.

>>1531808
You didnt attach a pic faggot.

>>1531808
>because some faggot on /biz/ was a cock
Has nothing to do with me. You and you alone are responsible for your failures. Youre a lazy faggot
>if its meant to be it will
What a pathetic defeatist attitude. No wonder your life is in shambles. You cant just secretly pine for a girl and hope shell trip and fall on your cock. You cant spend your whole life waiting for the winning lottery numbers. You cant just wake up one morning and have the perfect body. You have to work hard. Something youre incapable of
>100 calory grenola bar is all i had today and didnt even want it. Trying to keep my metabalizm up
O god. Not even touching this train wreck. No use wasting an explanation on proper diet and exercise on someone who will be in the drive thru tomoro. If youre curious go check out /fit/ they used to have a decent sticky in the day
>1.5 BILLION chances for me to "get the girl."
No not A girl. Im referring to THE girl. Not some 8 year old in malaysia. Not some hooker you could pay to suck your sad little weiner. Not even some fat bimbo with low enough standards to date you. Im talking about a deep and emotional connection with a beautiful girl that challenges you and complements your life. You will never have that because you have an awful attitude. Real relationships are work. Even with the right girl
>pic related
See even finding a picture in your anime porn folder was too much work for you. Fucking pathetic

>>1531826
>cuck
>worth it
>ever
Kill yourself

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>>1531873
>See even finding a picture in your anime porn folder was too much work for you. Fucking pathetic
Holy shit, that cuck was just absolutely BTFO.

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It's quite pathetic how people make excuses for why they're not successful. Don't downplay the success of others to take the responsibility off your shoulders and make yourself seem morally superior because you failed. Figure out why you're so negative and work on yourself. Why do you want to be a millionaire? Do you have this idea that lavish items will bring you happiness? They won't. You're filling a void. It's the same as addiction. Besides, once it becomes normal and you get used to it, which you will, you'll get bored and will want more. Too much money is never enough money.

Your goal in life should be to be happy. Money will not bring that and it never has. You see all these extremely rich people who are miserable? Listen to Eminem's songs for example. You say, "Oh, that won't be me... I'd totally be happy." No you won't. Stop it. Everyone in those positions tells you money is not the key and yet you don't listen. You should want money for things you NEED. Everything else that you get with money that you want will be a temporary happiness and, ironically, each item will make you less happier than the one before because the bar has been set. A Bugatti feels amazing for a short period, before it becomes normal, but a second one doesn't feel as good because the jump is not that big. Make sense? The next million will never feel as good as the first million. Not even 1%. Here's the fun part though! Now what do you do? You're clearly filling a void with money... Well, those things got boring... How do you get that same high? And there's your answer to why so many people declare bankruptcy.

You're not successful because of yourself. It's your fault that you're not rich. Period. Don't ever blame anyone else for your shortcomings. It's always your fault. I'd suggest being a man first before you try any serious ventures because this life is impossible for people who are not built for it.

>>1531895
>its your fault youre not rich
Calm down jeb bush. Most people can become moderately well off but you cant become part of the elite by willpower alone

>>1531873
>See even finding a picture in your anime porn folder was too much work for you. Fucking pathetic
jesus christ, I read all your posts and you absolutely destroyed the guy.
I hope this is some wake up call for him, because it was honestly a pretty depressing and sad read.

>>1530004
SOMEONE SAVE THIS

>>1531678
>at some point she may attract a great friend for me
I'm not him but Jesus, the level of cuck is unreal, i mean i've been in long term friendzones but your post..yes you can have friends of the opposite gender but to have a girl your attracted to just on the off chance she marries someone you can be a friend with 15 years down the line, holy shit.. 10/10 troll if not jesus fucking christ.

>>1531836
If you don't have at least $100,000 in capital, meaning you don't need the $100,000 and have your emergency funds set up and no debts, then you aren't ready to be any sort of investor.

>>1531775
The fact your NOT cheating on your wife, or outright divorcing her, somehow makes it that much worse, as bad as it sounds. given how you feel, and this whole senario you have cooked up, it would be more honest to her and yourself if you just cheated on her or left her. For real

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be the retard who sold his apple stocks for a couple bags of dicks, then decide not to, enjoy 50 million.

>>1527753
What is the difference between 30 and 31?

>>1531836
People hate on him. But ive read most all of robert kiyosaki's books. Richdad poor dad will get u the right mindset and the bare basics of investing. I would read that and if it doesnt stop you from buying stocks. I would just pick an high ranking stock book and read it. I study business and oil and real estate. I will olay with stocks when i am stable and get the cash to gamble with. Good luck!

>>1531840
Lol, yeah i do m8. Its a good one too.

>>1531895
Agreed. Im killing it to get money wnough to pay my bills, quit my job, help my family, and then tinker on shit. Im autostic as fuck and have a new hobby every month. This way i can afford it. I will never be bored like these retired faggots say. Nothing makes me happier than working on a project or looki g at cool shit online and trying to recreate it.

>>1532002
Whatevwr faggots. Can hardly type since i just fucked my dumbells like i fuck yalls moms. Hard, fast, and for a really REALLY hard time. Not even mad. Gonna go take some money i got from working my job and take a buddy to dinner to get caught up and go over plans for our new business. Couldn't even be the least bit bothered by your faggotry. You faggots really aren't gonna get anywhere in life by being cocks on the internet. You should try going outside, or send some NEETbux to someone less fortunate.

>>1532015
Oh i did

>>1532024
Shhhhhh. Dont scare the fish anon.

>>1531474
>Risk decades in prison for $25k of dirty (and probably dyed) money
>robbing banks
>2016

I made an indie game that /v/ shilled hard for over 3 months.

I made well over £1 million personally after tax from it.

It's not all its cracked up to be m8.

Still depressed. Still feel desire to earn more.

But now i have the paralyzing feeling I can never top my achievement.

I got a fluke personal best that I can never beat. And honestly the 6 years of development it took weren't worth it.

I was 23 years old when I got rich btw so I missed out on living from 17 - 23.

>>1531429
Fuck off, you're shitting up a good thread with your crypto memes

>>1527753
Why do you even want to be a millionaire in the first place? Why thirty? Why do you assune you need to be creative? Do you think your assumptions, demands and goals help or hinder you?

>>1532148
Hopoo?

Want to make a game with me?

>>1532134
Im sure youre making all kinds of gains on that 100 calorie cut. Fucking faggot

>>1529896
>I'm naturally talented at everything I do
Well I was going to talk trading with you.
But now I'm just going to be sick.

>>1532138
Please stop posting. You reek of stupidity and your posts are downright embarrassing. I thought the other guy was being harsh but he's entirely justified - you are a massive faggot.

>>1532148
Nigger, you're in a fantastic position, think about it; You have enormously more funds for your next game, hardware and such is no longer an issue.

You have a base, and momentum, you can build upon those much more easily now.

You have *experience*, you've made a successful game. How much of your time was spent learning how to draw/animate/code/debug and all the other bullshit involved with gamemaking?

Also, dude, you're 23.. you're still very young. Don't focus on missed years, focus on the fact you could comfortably retire right now and live very comfortably without having to lift a finger to make a dollar for someone else for the rest of your life.


...
I'm a loner poorfag giving a peptalk to a successful millionaire, something just feels off here.

>>1532148

just wanted to say that I enjoyed your game game very much hopoo. if I was in your position I would reinvest the money and hire people to shit out another game much faster and since you proved yourself, you have an audience in the market.

>>1531474
>day 2
>weeaboo habits still going strong
>attempt to insert die pack into anus for muh hentai waifu
>the die pack explodes deep in my ass

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>>1527753

I was given a few million worth of stock by my billionaire family at 22 and it's only grown. Rofl.

The only way to do it is to be given it, tbqh.

>>1532148
In ten years you'll find out that you're still young. Trust me. You've got your whole life ahead of you.

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>>1532851
>100 calorie cut.

Try like 5,500ish calories a day to under 1,00 faggot. Deep freeze full of chicken and rice prep meals. No other foods in house.

>full throttle on sale 2 for $3.

4 full throttles a day and sometimes a 5 hour energy shot. Down to 2 gallons of water a day. Sometimes coffee.

Staymad bruh.

I got a buddy who is a personal trainer, gonna visit next week and get some tests done and adjust meals for sock gains and weight cut.

>never gonna stop.

May try taking a walk outside sometime anon? Or treating anyone in your life with resoect instead of shitting on people bettering themselves?

I'll give u a life changing tip. Positive people dont give a fuck if u mad bro. They feel sorry for you. I pitty you. Because the only joy you have in life is trying to be a big man on the internet by dragging people down.

Cannot drag a positive person down.

At best/worst all you can do is keep a sad person sad and a mad person mad.

I hope u read this and just... stop being a faggot.

You hurt nobody but yourself and people that need mental help.

You're a shit human being but you can change.

Change anon.

Transend your bullshit life and make yours and those around you better.

>>1532034
>left her for real

I am. Trying to make sure when i go we have no debts and i wont die of alchahol poisoning. Been drinking one time a week. Assuming some of my shit sells cheap ill be debt free and able to leave by march. Maybe before. Just gonna do my own thing and work on me. If she gets mad or upset and leaves then i guess its a bonus. Feel bad but shit, cant bare to just pack my shit today and upset her. Cant stay with her. Ill see how i feel in a couple of weeks i guess. Maybe find the sac to tell her.

>>1532972
Kys

>>1531873
>See even finding a picture in your anime porn folder was too much work for you. Fucking pathetic
Wow BTFO from the first to the last post

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>>1527905
And then there's people like me who wouldn't even sell at 1000$. I'm the type who'd wait for the bitcoin to reach at least 500k $ before selling. I'm a stubborn kind of guy.

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>>1532148

You're such a fucking faggot, you've got so little perspective of things.

When you turn 30, you're still going to think how young you are.

Reading your stupid rambling literally made me sick and I honestly think you did not deserve this, or it was some sort of fluke, like lottery winnings.

You are def. not /biz/ material.

>>1527905
bitcoin$1200

>>1527753

Watch Layer Cake.

>>1527907
freaking out is way better

>>1532148
Mother fucker I love your game.
Bitch I'm jelly.

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>>1527753
mowing lawns. there's a business. walking dogs. there's a business.
your problem is that you're not looking for just any business; you're looking for the next billion-dollar facebook-tier business, and that is why you're are having trouble.

here's an idea: take a successful startup that has a high value in the states and research some "third-world" countries that it might work in too. for example: there is an uber-like company called go-jek in indonesia. they use scooters instead of cars. it's valued at over a billion and they haven't even started expanding yet.

would a similar company work in thailand? the philippines? malaysia? other countries with similar infrastructure? there's only one way to find out.

but i know your type. you're the same as most of /biz/. you dont actually want to work hard. you won't actually take any action unless that action can be done on your computer. you just want to sit on your ass and somehow shit out a billion dollar business.

good luck.

>>1530499
Do you have an email m8, I like your attitude and I need a website made.

I

>>1534261
you remind me of /o/s craigslist boomer threads with their "classics".

>500 K OR GET LOST
>Will give you 3,000 for it
>500 K OR GET LOST
>time passes
>some billionaire on a whim
>Hi there, prepared to offer you 200,000 no questions asked.
>500 K OR GET LOST NO LOWBALLERS I KNOW WHAT I HAVE
and then 30 years later it's an inherited rustbucket lawn ornament sold as part of the house

>>1534946
Thanks for the offer, but I can't accept web development work at this point in time as I have things to take care of before that. Also I'm rusty as fuck and need to get up to date on all the latest web technology memes.

There is another dev I know that might be interested, you can find him here: https://discord.gg/a9Gbnjh

>>1534075
I dont know if you meant under 100 calories or under 1000. But either way thats not sustainable and youre an idiot. Everything you posts drips with ignorance and everything you are as a person disgusts me. I hope you do kill yourself

Idiotic child.

Any high income profession, aggressively pursued so that you get in early, and frugal living will easily get you there.

Petroleum engineering, most medical doctors, investment banking, software engineering....

Any of these jobs can get you 100-200k a year with a few years. Save aggressively. Ta-da, millionaire by 30. Study early, push hard, get in ASAP and SAVE.

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>>1527932
>cant just some billionaire give me 2 millions that would be enough
BERNIE BERNIE BERNIE

>>1529896
fuck off david, you beerhall owning kike

>>1535448
>Petroleum engineering, most medical doctors, investment banking, software engineering
I barely graduated highschool, and I an dyslexic with numbers
What can I do?
these sound hard, I can't even grasp what these jobs are.

The only way to become a millionaire by 30 without getting lucky is to graduate university with a degree in something that gives you 90K+ starting(almost nothing does that and you'd be lucky get one of those few jobs) and save and invest your money for then next decade.

It's practically impossible if you don't just start a business and reel in 100K+ profit every year.

>>1535476
a lot of the degrees that pay like that aim towards management, contracting, consulting, or business ownership anyways.

there's a reason geologists and engineers usually get an MBA to finish. Law and medical should too.

some careers pay a lot simply because they're keyed towards self-employment and that's where the money is. High risk tho.

>>1527753
If you send btc and reply when you do, I'll give you an idea from my ideas list. Which one you get will be based off of the last 3 digits. I can come up with 100 potential million/billion dollar ideas a day, I just don't act on them. Reason for this is I only get the right as I am laying in bed and going to sleep. Because of this, I just go to sleep and forget them. My list is of ideas that I think are so good I wake my ass up and run over to my computer to write down. Because of this, there aren't that many shit ones. Make sure you send your email in the payment. The address is good for 24 hours starting now.

BTC : 1CrWnjNCS7ohKuEhFmnzTeFpE5jjRr8h6i

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>>1535476
and I mean graduate at 21***. You have fucking zero chance otherwise.

Graduating at 25 gives you only 5 years. 100K per year - say 20K for living expenses and shit and you only have 400K by 30. even investing that the entire time will only give you like 50K in interest, so 450,000 after all of that. big fucking woop.

If you did this at 21, You'd have the only real chance. Having a 100K per year job, taking out like 20K per year to pay for living expenses, with 7% per year if the stock market didn't feel like tanking in the meantime, you'd end up with $900,000-$1,000,000 at 30 years old.

It's seriously the only fucking way, and it's a pretty circumstantial path. Who gets a 100K per year job just graduating university at 21? AND has no debt graduating university?

Having a net worth of $1,000,000 at 30 without getting stupidly lucky is really hard to do.

If you want to talk about being a millionaire in your 20s, then that's a whole different ball game and we're talking all-star holy shit luck.

Starting a business is the ONLY way. Inheritance is considered total dumb luck and isn't worth mentioning.

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>think of a tech product out of nowhere
>realize it actually has amazing potential
>spent months, and months building the prototype by myself (hardest thing i've ever done)
>it actually works fucking awesome, product shits on all competitors and is WAY cheaper to produce and sell
>show it off at an expo and people were fucking amazed

Then I got burned out as fuck, I can't do all of this by myself anymore. I need some other competent fuckers to flesh out the final components and get this to a final product state.
If I posted what I currently have on kickstarter, along with a decent video, I can garauntee we would get funded A LOT of money.

Don't want to until I can get rid of this burnout and hire some smart people. So hard to find people I can trust and are good engineers though, fucked until I can.

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>>1535486
>Inheritance is considered total dumb luck and isn't worth mentioning
>plebs mad they weren't born a millionaire

>>1535510
I don't see where you're getting some smug reaction from. It literally is dumb luck and you had no control over it.

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>>1535510
>someone plays mental gymnastics enough to think inheritance is an accomplishment of any kind

Must suck to have such shit parents who endorse this way of thought.

>>1535508
I've watched silicon valley you fuckwit. We know you haven't done any of that

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>>1535537
Can't tell if trolling

>>1535508
Is it just software/app or also hardware? I'm in a similar situation. Also what kind of prototyping were you doing?

I think you should go on as soon as possible before someone else takes your idea. Just invest a few days to start a kickstarter campaign and look how it goes.

>>1527753

The most common way is to create/join a newly funded startup and hope it take off and gets bought/investment from a large company/investment firm.

It's very rarely (read: pretty much never) people become millionaires purely through trading.

Source: I work for a VC firm.

>>1535547
It's actually both hardware and software. The prototype is a full-fledged demo of the product, just using parts that aren't mass produced and software that is not far from beta.

Microsoft was pretty interested...is all I can say.

>I think you should go on as soon as possible before someone else takes your idea.
This is my worst fucking nightmare anon, feels like I get stabbed whenever I think about someone taking this idea.
You're right as fuck though, i'm just so burned out. Now I need to find a semi-professional to make a quality kicker-starter video.

Such a pain in the ass to do all of this while being full time grad student.

What I really need is to find a smart engineer I can trust to help out and relieve some of the stress.
That could make all the difference, maybe i'll post some job ads of some kind and do interviews.

>>1531895
I just want a range rover and a beach house before I hit 40.

I can die happily after achieving that.

Want to be rich?

Pick a product and go all the way. ALL THE WAY.

>>1532148
sorry dude i had to pirate RoR because im fucking broke

also i cant beat the game even tho i played over 50h

>all these people want millions while you just want a steady 1000€ per month

being a poorfag all your life makes you dream smaller

>>1535564
so, fuck my coffe machine?

>>1534854
What about a business that teaches dogs how to mow lawns?

>>1534854
>would a similar company work in thailand? the philippines? malaysia? other countries with similar infrastructure? there's only one way to find out.

The answer is no. "Finding out" would be throwing money down the drain. Taxis are absolutely swarming these countries already, and charge the lowest price per mile(in USD) of anywhere in the world.

You're displaying your facile grasp on business if you think simply stealing an idea and applying it in a different locale is some groundbreaking thought. The way you talk down others as being lazy afterwords is fucking cringy.

>>1535476
>>1535486
>graduate university with a degree in something that gives you 90K+ starting(almost nothing does that and you'd be lucky get one of those few jobs)

lol what the fuck

i'm 20 and i just got my offer, all in it's about $150k and many of my friends have similar paying jobs

>>1535627

In what field?

>>1535638
finance

>>1535587
Dreaming small makes you a poorfag all your life.

>>1535627
lol

>graduate with no debt at 22
>get $70k job
>max out 401k and ira, use brokerage for remainder
>rely on compound gains

boom

>>1527855
>lol
>a million is only a monthly salary a day
>are you really telling me you can't figure out a way to do that?
Hmm.

Don't worry so much about becoming a millionaire, you should focus on becoming financially independent. Cut down on your costs, learn something interesting and practical that help get you a higher paying job, save at least 75% of your income, invest it all in VTI, BND, and VXUS, and you will become financially independent in no time. It is important to learn to live without luxuries, humans get used to a higher standard of living very quickly and you are really not that much happier than you were before

>>1535558

What is your idea in the strain of? Rather than that, what was developing it all by yourself like?

Section 8. Thank me later.

>>1535986
>What is your idea in the strain of?
Huh?

>Rather than that, what was developing it all by yourself like?
Some of the most fun i've ever had doing anything. The product isn't something boring, it's naturally fun as fuck and you guys would understand if I revealed it. Testing it is fun.

The problem is that obstacles CONSTANTLY reveal themselves. I have easily done 16 hour coding binges where I don't even get much done because of how fucking complicated it gets at times. I would go into some really interesting obstacles that I resolved but it would give away the product.
The product has three layers in the software stack and two pieces of dedicated hardware. Getting everything coordinated and maintaining accuracy across the stacks was a huge pain by itself.

So. Many. Fucking. Wires too. Fuck wires, they take forever to do properly and have 0 fun to it.

When you code out that new feature though and test it to see it work fucking awesomely, you get that euphoria rush.

The best feeling is when you're coding and you KNOW that you are ahead of the game and competitors, ahead of the rest of the world. Tasting what sci-fi has boasted all this time.
I'm sure some of you don't believe me, I wouldn't, but I have the future of this particular industry right in my room next to me. No doubt that this type of product is the future, the question is will I be the first to market with the explosive launch or will my cuck startup competitors release their overpriced and limited clusterfuck.

>>1536394

Like what is the general realm of your product?

>>1536399
Ehh...I really can't give any details. I'll just say that it revolutionizes a product that has stagnated for decades. Adds a very complex twist to it.

Unless I give up you should see a kickstarter around early 2017. Maybe i'll shill it here too.

I won't half ass a kickstarter like so many dumb faggots do. After spending so much time developing a product like this from scratch the money is really not what i'm after yet. I just want my product to be the best, well engineered, and beat the fuck out of my cuck competitors who I know have the inferior product. I also long for more articles (I actually have one article already done on it many months ago) on it and hyping it for what it is and will accomplish in the industry

You faggots will love it, I know it.

>>1535587

i relate to this

>>1536421
fleshlight shake weight??

>>1531895
>Listen to Eminem's songs for example.
>Wanted the fame, not the cover of News Week
Without all the media attention he would have been the happiest guy in the world bruh

$URRE$ your welcome.

>>1536436
No anon I would get bored of that after an hour.

I developed this product because it's fucking cool as fuck, everyone who's seen it was amazed. A good number of professors and professional engineers all agreed.

It gives me an engineering boner just thinking about all of the software and hardware working in unison.
I wish I didn't have school in the way, and wish I had someone good to hire. If it weren't for those the product would have already been out I think.

>>1535654
As someone who has always dreamed big and is still poor I can confirm this is not true

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>>1527753
lol luck. You gotta man up, buckle down, and make your own fucking luck.

Luck doesn't just come to you by feeling sorry for yourself, you gotta get out there and fucking do it mang.

>>1536421

Does it fit within the palm of my hand?

>>1536460
Not even close.

>>1536448
Can you tell me what it is so I can try to imagine it?

>>1536448
>It gives me an engineering boner just thinking about all of the software and hardware working in unison.
Fuck this sounds cool.
I was working on game design but you're making me want to come up with a cool gadget idea.
I know a couple programming languages but aside from some raspberry pi tinkering, I'm a complete beginner with electrical engineering.

>>1536394
Fuck dude I'm jelly, atm I have an idea for a product. Also hardware and software, but I'm mostly stealing new tech that's still being developed and using it for another application.
But I get why it's still being developed, it's complicated as fuck.
The development of the product I can handle ( at least prototyping) but the science behind it... I need a lot more advanced math and dynamics knowledge before I can even begin to start understand the fundamentals of the subject.
Need to know if my idea is even viable tho, so I will continue.

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>>1536469
Nah anon I really can't, i'll just give another small hint in that the product would have never been possible up until about ~2-2.5 years ago.

It will be worth the wait, I hope. I'm one pessimistic fuck with all these shitty startups but this one is the real fucking deal. I know it.

>>1536485
Most electrical engineering hobby-like projects are really easy today with so many guides and arduinos/raspberry pis. You will be likely spending 90% of the time coding instead. Keep. fucking. coding. Automate everything you can, always think if something is able to be automated and train your brain to have an intuitive sense of the logic/steps involved to achieve that.

Just know your fucking pullup/pulldown resistors. I saw some real magic fuckery until I fully understood the physics at play.

>>1536490
Anon forget that jelly crap. It's a ton of fucking work, even when it is fun. Hard, fucking, work. Especially with the most interesting features I have on it which required a ton of reverse engineering to understand what the fuck was going on and how I could manipulate it. I spent maybe ~20 hours to get one little thing working nicely, and I had to scrap it anyways because of a conflict.

I'm no amazing programmer, but I think I really have a knack for coming up with amazing design decisions and some very clever gimmicks that will destroy my competition. Engineering education actually helps a lot with that, one of the few reasons I don't regret diving into a CS degree instead.

>>1536449
You need to aim high to hit high, but that doesn't mean your aim doesn't suck.

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Hey guys. I'm a worthless NEET trying to crawl my way out of my father's basement and become a functional adult. Uni is beating me up right now, but I want to get in on this jewry early. Do any of you have any advice for where someone like me should start? What kinds of subjects should I study? I know next to nothing about any of this

>>1536510
Where can I follow your gay non-idea so I can see it flop and sate my curiosity?

>>1537194
Read The Millionaire Fastlane / Rich dad poor dad / the four hour work week.

Those are the school books you never got in school.

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>>1537358
>Will do, thanks. Have a cute anime girl

>>1536510

Well, if you ever decide to make a thread about your product in the future, could you perhaps put some kind of keyword in the OP so I can find it in the archive in case I miss the thread?

>>1537358
My uncle is a hardcore "Rich Dad Poor Dad" fan
I had to listen to his bullshit for hours when I went with him to one of his business trip
I didn't know that it's possible but he literally developed a psychopathic personality
He became filthy rich but you I can't stand being around him anymore
>mfw He hired me a few years ago and I was happy to learn business from him but he put me into a dead-end data entry job

>>1529375
>One of my friends who barely graduated high school got into food distribution and now he's making well over 400K/year.
I've got to hear more about this. Does he own the company now or what?

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>>1527905
You can know now tho that it will hit 10K to 100K within the next decade, but as always, as the mediocre losers you are, you will keep your ass in your denial/comfort zone instead of buying.

>>1537358
Reading books is useless. Those guys are rich because their books became memes that everyone quote when asking how to get rich.

Sorry to bother guys but I figured you would know and I rather not make a thread just for this question.

My mother intends to put my name as the phone line owner so that if there is a late payment apparently due to my age (I am over 18 though), it wont be much of a problem.

I dont live in the US, (Italy) but wouldnt this action fuck my credit rating in the future if it does happen?

>>1527753
Look into vector marketing

>>1531234
Loans don't need money up front, thats why its called a loan though most of the times you wil need to put a percentage of your own money into your investment so they know you'll work for it otherwise you lose your own money....

>>1537868
Non credo che le banche guardino le tue bollette del telefono prima di concederti un credito

>bought a few bitcoins back in the day
>just remembered it

I have no idea on which account that was or how to access it, I was 18
I need a new phone, it would be good to find out...

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>>1535627
>>graduate university with a degree in something that gives you 90K+ starting(almost nothing does that and you'd be lucky get one of those few jobs)
>lol what the fuck
>i'm 20 and i just got my offer, all in it's about $150k and many of my friends have similar paying jobs
This is not typical.

t. depressed /biz/fag with no friends, who fucked up two times and will now graduate from shit university at 28 with 120k$ in assets from work with no good job in sight.
Feels bad.

>>1538376
That's a7 Or8 at best

>taking the bait

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>>1530284

How does this selling scrap metal thing work? Anyone willing to enlighten me?

>>1539693

You find scrap metal and cans and such and sell it to people that buy it. Like junk yards and such.

>>1535486
>tfw would have graduated at 21 but had to stop going for two years and cannot afford school anymore.

I can transfer now (FINALLY) but would graduate at 23 at the earliest.

>>1530284
My family had a million euro, my father started working in stock and apparently was successful too, he invested in China so the 2008 did not him as hard but then, he apparently could not trade by himself online and we were away and well as time went by he never made the money work, started a business, invested poorly and...now we don't even have 10K.

If only we could at least sell the damn pool table.

>>1535447

Not sustainable how? Are you doubting his strength of will? That's none of your concern.

Medically unsustainable? Why do you think your body stores fat you absolute fucking idiot?