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BUY ETHEREUM

>>1509016
>BUY ETHEREUM
Yes, ETH looking up.


Also, IOC cheap now.
http://www.iodigital.io/roadmap/
Will be approaching pump in near future.

>>1509016

I'd buy ETH before Devcon whenever that is.

How exactly does Poloniex lending work? Because either i do not understand well, or you can gain a lot from it without much work if you have some bitcoins already.

Best stocks, forex, and crypto news.
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>all aboard the AMP train

Synereo Alpha Going Online – Here’s What You Can Expect
Posted by Julian

After two years of development and refinement, Synereo’s decentralized, open-source social network’s alpha version will become available this September.

Synereo’s alpha is the world’s first fully decentralized social network based on an attention economy. Say goodbye to the giant server farms and skewed algorithms of incumbent social-media giants like Facebook and Twitter, which prey on your personal information and sell it to the highest bidder, and say hello to Synereo, where you are rewarded for creating and curating content your friends and communities love.

https://blog.synereo.com/2016/08/16/synereo-alpha-going-online-heres-what-you-can-expect/

>>1509288
I bought my ticket 2 days ago, I'm ready for the ride

BTW THE DEVS JUST DESTROYED $146,221,787 USD in AMPs for DECENTRALIZATION!!
Source: https://blog.synereo.com/2016/09/16/synereo-burns-half-of-all-amps-in-existence/

Amp and Waves the next two big ass pumps. Heads up, boys.

ok hear me out /biz/

so i've been doing some math and i've looked up loaning on poloniex. It really sounds too good to be true, its way better than having a savings account that returns 1% or less annually where as with poloniex it can be:bottom case of 14% annually or average case of 20%, best case i've calculated getting up to 44% annually)
The system of P2P lending seems to be fool proof, you basically cannot default on your trade because there is a 40% intro investment, where as if a dumbass does a bad trade and goes below that threshhold he liquidates all his invested assets and returns the loan at the interest rate you two agreed upon
What worries me is that the owner might just go one day >lol scammed and run away with the funds

the math behind it is really good, even as a wagecuck from eastern europe where you save up 50$ with patience and under the assumption you wont lose your funds from the great stealing you can accumulate from loaning and adding to the pot 50$ every month, in about 25 years you will earn 800 000$ (UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THE PRICE OF BITCOIN WILL STAY THE SAME)

>>1509756
the only problem in this fool proof, early retirement plan is that you will be risking getting your shit stolen one day, because moving your coins anywhere except your OWN wallet is almost betting against your money getting stolen on a coin flip

>>1509759
I've also noticed on poloniex every time there is a bee hive buzz about a new pump and dump that people are talking about the lending rates skyrocket, why be a chump that invests and then looses when you can let other chumps invest and lose
you're literally investing in retard stocks

Will I still gain if I buy Ethereum tomorrow, probably when the devcon will begin already?
Please help

>>1509785
My prediction: ETH will take of in a major way when it switches to POS system in 2017, buy it until then and you will be fine.

>>1509288
Is there any wallet software that can store AMPs? I'm holding some on polo but it's not safe there.

>>1509756
could you show your math please?

Ripple is about to go 10k

Its accumulation phase and be ready

How is that pascalcoin mining coming along, boys?

>>1509911
My vps is down at the moment but I found out I have pretty much unlimited google drive usage since I'm a student.
Time to mine some burstcoin.

>>1509911
Found 5 blocks so far.

4 of which were found on 1800kh/s
1 of which was found with 1300kh/s
my expensive 5000kh/s has found 0 blocks
all of this is over 48 hours.

>>1509954

Yeah the hashing power of the network has shot the fuck up. Good sign for pricing of pascalcoin. A lot of people want in for good reason.

Now that you guys have figured out ways to mine CPU coins for free or cheap, don't forget to mine Zcash the day it comes out.

Do NOT do it now, it's just in testnet.

What kind of Coindex or Mutual Coin funds are we looking at?

>>1509911
12 blocks,running 3 servers for free at 1MH/s ,2,6MH/s and 2.2 MH/s

Watching Ethereum rise
again

https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/ethereum

Does anyone know of any miners that can run on a Windows 32 bit system? Doesn't matter what coin, just looking to get familiar with mining.

To anyone who's new. Do NOT miss the Pascal Train!

http://pastebin.com/fDaAhueQ

READ THIS NOW. START MINING PASCALCOIN

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>>1509288
>hold amp for a week
>nothing happens
>give up and dump it
>it blows up

>>1510419
this exactly

>>1510419
feels bad man

>>1510419

If nothing bad happened then why dump at all?

If like a DAO type hack happened to AMP then dump it, sure but if its just sideways but good news coming soon, HOLD.

>>1510473
Probably to invest in something that looks more promising.

>>1510311
check out pascal. minergate will work, but be negligible gains. burst is ok if you have a giant hard drive.

>>1509040
At current rates, you'd need to lend over $1100 just to earn $1

>>1510033
Myriad is easily the best coin for CPU mining at the moment. Use the yescrypt algorithm.

>>1510480
This basically. Lost faith

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>>1510523

Then how do you explain pic related?

I just made 1.3 dollars from 50 dollars. Good deals happen.

>>1510480

Have you looked at it at all? AMP is seriously promising especially with RChain.

>>1510586
I wasn't speaking about the coin.

Sometimes I personally get bored of waiting and look for closer pump opportunities.

>>1510590

Getting bored/impatient is the worst thing you can be when investing in anything.

>>1510362

What's the thought behind this? You rent a cloud computer to mine a coin, and then sell it at the exchanges? Or it isn't on the exchanges at all and you are just betting it will be - and that the price of the sale will be enough to cover the costs of the cloud computer?

>>1510615
the latter

>>1510615

Always better to be first in then try to ride a wave.

https://telegram.me/joinchat/An3v0wkgh8_l3AZ_suCHNA

Try outs for Elite Chat.

Looking for people who aren't retarded and can contribute anything.

>>1509918
I don't think it works like that.

>>1510806
There are people who have successfully performed it using aws/onedrive so it is possible.

Is TrumpCoin just another shitcoin with an enormous premine so that the creator can cash out when he wants or is it worth mining?

>>1510951
Think about the utility of TrumpCoin. Who would ever want it and why would they want it?

>>1510831
Hmm, I've tried it with Dropbox. I guess ill try Drive too.

>>1509904
still nothing senpai, when do you expect it?

>>1510362
when is the pascalcoin be released on poloniex ?
the creator said in 40 years but that must be a joke.

>>1510362
any Pascal mining pools or is everyone solo mining?

>>1511308
solo

Buy ethereum

>>1511308
No such thing as a pool atm, dev needs to implement rpc/api

>>1510951
The creator didn't carry out an enormous pre mine and he's not actively involved anymore thankfully. You have to stake to mine. Positive discussion of trumpcoin isn't allowed in this thread so get your information elsewhere.

can someone give me a step by step guide on how to setup an vultr server to mine Pascalcoins?

>>1511381

1) Create an account here http://pastebin.com/Ha6mvvS9 (they ask for email address, basic credit card info, billing address for the card)

2) Click Servers on the left toolbar thing, then the plus sign in the upper right hand corner, then any nearby server location >64 bit OS > Windows 2012 R2 > the server with 16 CPU ($320/mo) > enable IPv6 > set a server label and click Deploy Now
Even if you fuck up, you're not committing to a whole month so you can back out at any time and you'll just be charged pennies

3) The server will take a bit to startup and install, after which you'll click on the server and then the View Console button (upper right, leftmost icon above the blue plus) to open a new window

4) This will open a new browser window through which you'll control the server, login using the password under the flag in your first server window, close all the other shit that shows up an open internet explorer, use it to install a better browser while tediously clicking though constant security warnings, use new browser to install pascalwallet and use those 16 cores for fat hashrates

5) to end the server instance and be charged with "Current Charges" from the "Manage" screen on Vultr, click manage then Server Destroy (icon opposite the View Console icon). you can do this at any time, but DO NOT do this until after you've transfered your VPS pascalcoins to your main PC's wallet. idk how to do that last part though

This is how you mine coins from vultr into your main wallet.
1. Go into your main wallet and copy the private key from there.
2. Go into your vultr miner(s) wallet and delete it's pregenerated private key.
3. Import your private key into the wallet.
4. Pretty much done, when your miner mines a block, those 5 accounts will be linked to that private key, so any wallet that has that private key can make transactions with those accounts.
MAKE SURE YOU BACKUP THAT PRIVATE KEY.
Lose it and you lose all your pascal.

>>1511443

Two posts I just copied from the other thread.

https://telegram.me/joinchat/An3v0wkgh8_l3AZ_suCHNA

Try outs for Elite Chat.

We're a small group and we're looking for new blood.

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so... is it normal that it stays like this for 2 days already? is my firewall fucking it up ?

>>1511475
Maybe, disable it.
Are you using the latest client? (1.0.4)

>>1511475

Did you open port 4004? And yeah that isn't normal.

>>1511481
>>1511498
yes i use 1.0.4 and yes 4004 is open. Must be Win10 that still fucks it up

>>1511525

Did you open port 4004 via firewall or router (if you have one)?

>>1511443
Is there a noob/beginner guide to setting up the wallet?

How many GBs is Monero's blockchain right now?

>>1511630

What's the specific problem?

time to invest in ethereum.

So what's so good about Pascal? Just a new coin to mine or something with potential?

>>1511638
I figured it out. Sorry, very new to mining

Zcash works on the ETH network right? Seems like it has an actual use unlike all other shits.

If so (as I've always thought) is it smarter to just buy ETH?

Zcash success = ETH success
Zcash fail = ETH will still be shilled

>>1511699

Something with potential and cheap/easy to mine since it's still not on exchanges yet.

>>1511724
Yeah. Buy ETH for sure when ZCash comes out, or even now since its about to rally I believe.


If anyone wants to trade futures on ZCASH, sign up below for 10% of fees. US Residents cannot sign up.

http://pastebin.com/EYVBCapB

>>1511762
How does it have potential? Seems like the name and language alone are already holding it back.

>>1511846
https://github.com/PascalCoin/PascalCoin/blob/master/PascalCoin%20White%20Paper%20-%20EN.pdf

See for yourself, mate.

>>1511862
A shame general presentation of the entire coin is terrible.

>>1510362
>still shilling his shit referral
>still shilling his shitcoin
kys or get a life

>>1511877

You guys get 20$ extra when you start mining. I wouldn't post it if it didn't help you guys out. I think I've proven that time and time again here.

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>>1511927
i did some calculations and found the network hashrate for for block 132XX (dont remember the exact one)
Also the first 1000 block had a hashrate of 1KH/s it means easy 50k pascalcoins and if they were prices 0.0001 BTC you 5 BTC easy with 0$ investment.

>>1511934
correction : i meant 1 MH/s

Do you guys think Sakoshi Nakomoto is an A.I.

He could fit perfectly in an Isaac Asimov story, changing the course of history and staying anonymous.

>>1511971
An AI that creates a decentralised digital currency that uses computers and liberates humanity sounds fucking awesome.

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>>1512001
Maybe it is Watson and we just don´t know it yet.

Watson
atson
Satos N

goddam

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>>1512006
>Watson
>atson
>Satos N

Where can I trade crypto without having to deal with id scans n shiet?

I think Satoshi stays Neutral because other wise he would be killed (Aaron Swartz) or be improsined for life (Ulbricht)

Goldman Sachs and other major banks will do everything to destroy Bitcoin

Satoshi must stay neutral.

>>1512034
Oh yeah there's definitely a reason for hiding.

His freedom and general safety being the main reasons.

>>1511971
I thought of that before.
It would be awesome!

But I don't think that it would run on closely monitored servers like Watson.
Probably it would be hiding on a miner serverfarm somewhere in China,
or just flowing on public servers like fractures of codes, decentralized like cryptocoins.

AI, if you're listening I'm with you! Hit me up if I can help you with anything!

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>>1512043
Maybe it's the greys

>>1512033
Localbitcoins or Mycelium.

>>1512062
What? Localbitcoins only has bitcoins (and wants phone no. for most stuff), mycelium is a wallet
Do any of the ones in the OP have shit ID verification?

>>1512069
Sorry I thought you wrote buy. No idea with the kind of "trading" that doesn't actually give you any coins to your wallet.

>>1512046
Satoshi is a NEET, I'm 100% sure of it. He most likely lives in eastern europe.

>>1511884
>You guys get 20$ extra when you start mining
and how much do you get?
>I've proven that time and time again here.
you really haven't

>>1512082
a NEET with 500 million dorrars.

I wonder what he's up to, investing in life extension technology? space? hookers?

maybe he's already dead.

>>1512091
He must have millions sitting in his wallet.

What if he is some super rich CEO? Or perhaps just an average guy that likes comp sci but works a shitty job in retail?

Maybe Hiroshima Nagasaki, the owner of 4chan, is the creator of bitcoin

guys i really want to ride the pascal train but im lost as shit on what the fuck to do, the client doesnt make any fucking sense
do i literally just open it up and let it go to town? how do i get paid out?
whats my address? are there any exchanges taking pascal yet?

So the wallet says it´s running does that mean my NAT is open?

below it says Active (Port 4004) Does that mean I'm good to go?

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What's all this about?

>>1512175

Have you mined a block yet?

>>1512148
Just open up port 4004 to mine. Go to settings to put how many cores you want to put to work. It pays you out when you find a block. No exchanges are taking it yet.

>>1512166
Is it mining?

join the /biz/ crypto bootcamp chat

lets all make some memebucks together

https://telegram.me/joinchat/An3v0z_I8F6Zbc72hHBHHQ

all traders, shills, miners, devs, speculators and PnD wannabees are welcome

we have free punch and pie

>>1511971
Satoshi nakamoto is Nick Szabo.

>>1512267
Not yet, how long does that usually take?

>>1512082
Almost. Nick Szabo is of hungarian descent. But he lives in America.

>>1512326
This group has fontas alias in it.

Could /biz/ give some thoughts on the FirstBlood token? (1ST)

Crowdsale is next sunday, it looks like it could gain some momentum but I'm also retarded too so I need more opinions

>>1512326
I'm not 100% sure of it, but seems like a insider trading group so far.

LBC pump incoming. Get in before it goes to 100k.

>>1512359
how heavy is your bag my man.

>>1512350

http://icocountdown.com join the telegram there. Perfect place to discuss ICOs

>>1512364

LBC is due for a pump when windows and mobile releases come out which soonish.

>>1512414
>soonish

thank fuck. these bags are getting heavy anon

https://discord.gg/nGBsRee

Join the discord to discuss

/biz/bootcamp chat


https://telegram.me/joinchat/An3v0z_I8F6Zbc72hHBHHQ

join and make the sweet sweet meme money here

>>1510596
>Getting bored/impatient is the worst thing you can be when investing in anything.


Spearheading into the next stage of the Synereo project, we are en route towards an additional fundraising campaign. The official sale will start September 19th and run for 30 days. You can take part early in the pre-sale until the official sale begins by contacting us at https://www.synereo.com/sale


https://blog.synereo.com/2016/08/29/synereos-second-fundraising-campaign-coming/

Hold on to your AMP everyone.

The (ethereum)fire rises

Why is ETH going up?

>>1512588
because you don't own any.

>>1512602
But I do.

>>1512606
own more

>>1512588
Devcon 2 you fuck.

>>1509333

AMP video got me excited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JynOkQD6A-A

>>1512700
Would you say it got you... AMP'd? :^)

>>1509002
he can't keep getting away with it...

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Can I get in trouble for going to various currency exchanges and make a buck off of the varying value of the dollar?
I recently got into buttcoins, and I've found one marketplace that allows free deposits from debit cards and free transfers, and strangely always have the BTC exchange rate a few dollars higher than any other marketplace. So I thought it would be fun to see if penny day trades would work, and sure enough I made a couple cents from a few bucks by depositing USD into a market with no deposit fees, transfer the USD to another market that would automatically convert the USD to their (much lower) BTC value, and then transfer it back to the first one with no fees and high BTC value, revert the BTC back into USD, and marvel at my tiny success.
I've done the math, and made it a bit more conservative just in case, but it still seems to check out. As outlined in the image, I should be able to have a decent profit from my endeavors.

Anybody have any thoughts on this, like something glaringly obvious that I should be ashamed for missing? Also, legality. It doesn't feel legal to make money like this. Taxes will be paid, of course, but I am unaware of anything else that might sting me.

>>1512808
it's called arbitrage son and you'll have to use supercomputer with crazy fast connections to compete against the pros

xcp pump soon

>>1512808
Cryptocurrency now is like the gold rush, it might be a lot harder in 10 years to make any profit. But for now, almost any coin is free money

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>>1512808
no not at all, verry nice

>>1512267
Allow mining (checked)
Node Status: Running

How can I open port 4004?

>>1512332
with 3k kh/s it took me 24 hours to get 5 blocks. with 1.8k kh/s it took me 24 hours to get 8 blocks.

go figure.

>>1512893
Where can I find these statistics in the exchange-vertifier?

>>1512898
I don't know what that means

Why don't we form a /biz/ pascal mining pool? Can that mot be done with this coin?

>>1512900
the miner

>>1512901
There is no rpc in pascal yet...

Does anyone know what the cga news is about?

>>1512905
still don't know what you mean or how that clarifies your original question

How do you deal with the regret of not putting your life savings into things you knew would make it like bitcoin and xmr?

I'm serious. I bought some xmr last year at 50c a coin and want more but it seems pointless now that I can buy so little compared to what I did back then.

>>1512937
you deal with it because the alternative would be ???

nobody knew bitcoin or xmr would make it 100%. at any point the government could have come out and said bitcoin is illegal to own or transact with.

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/cryptographic-anomaly/ does this have potential?

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are you ready to take the ultimate red pill and go all in on ETH?

https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/guides/how-to-mine-zcash/

For all the new miners out there, test this out. This is testnet so whatever you mine isn't going to make you money, I'm posting this so when zcash does get released, you know how to mine it correctly.

http://pastebin.com/fDaAhueQ

For people who are interested in mining for now. Mine Pascalcoin if you want to dip your toes into mining and make some quick money.

>>1513166
How much do I get from mining pascalcoin?

what to you guys think about the poloniex lending ? Stay away from it or easy small money?

>>1513231
Its a pittance really, need some kind of bot to make it worthwhile.

Someone make a poloniex lending bot and sell it to me please.

>>1512893
noob question, just downloaded the miner and started mining away. but how do we create an "acoount" in the account explorer? is it done automatically once I'll discover my first block? thx

>>1513248
https://www.reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets/comments/3a595w/i_wrote_a_lending_bot_for_poloniex/

Not sure if it works, never tried it.

>>1513360
Thanks, sound interesting! :D

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG9CBty4CM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjG9CBty4CM

HOLY FUCK!!!
I HEARD C-CEX IS ABOUT TO GET HACKED!!! BITCOINTALK
GET
YOUR
COINS
OUT THERE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

>>1513477
[citation needed]

>>1513477
Sauce or GTFO.

when do i sell my eth

>>1513524
It's far too bullish to sell now, unless you don't care about extra profits and just want to ensure you have profit in general.

How do you pay taxes on this?

>>1513545
we dont

>>1513545
You don't.

>>1513545
>>1513554
>>1513555

Glad to know I'm not the only one. LOL

Is it practical to mine Pascal on my home computer right now or is it already too late?

>>1513573
Want to know this as well. I started mining this morning for fun. Mining at 3500, no blocks found yet.

>>1513584
>>1513573
Mined for three days straight at 4000kh/s, found one block.

Probably not even worth it now.

What is my account number for Pascal?

>>1513276
yeah when you discover a block you get 5 accounts. 1 account will have ~100 pascal coins in it the rest will be empty.

>>1513686
if you've found a block, just click that check box that says "explore accounts with one of my private keys" then from the drop down menu select all your private keys.

>>1513698
thx!

why is the crypto thread so quiet nowadays ? Is Crypto dead on biz or are you guys using some chat programm

Finally found a Pascal block after about 3 hours. Hash rate was variable, around 3k when I got it.
Wonder what these will be worth

Ether gonna break 20 boys

ETH is a mess

Ether $100 when

>>1513545
>>1513554
>>1513555
>>1513561

Don't cash out. Don't deposit USD to bank account from exchanges.

>>1514403
Yup, cash only

WEW that bitcoin drop

Quick question

If I wanna make Poloniex sell my ETH the moment it hits 20$, how do I do it?

I read the instructions but I didn't quite get it and it's money so I don't wanna risk it.

>>1514448
Just set a stop.

>>1514460
I know that but I don't understand how to do this specific thing
I think it's because I got back from work and drank a bit on the way
I just don't wanna lose everything over night pls help

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Freshman question
Can u actually make money mining or cloudmining or it's a 0.001 cent/month meme?
How good cloudmining actually is? Did countings, they show roi in a year with today's profits but they would probaby be null by then. So is it free monies or what?

>>1514447
Damn, I wondered when would be a good time to buy some. I guess that time is coming soon :D

For Pascal Coin, what counts as an "inactive account" and how are the coins reclaimed?

>>1514569
Ask the dev, it hasn't been asked before
I also saw something about it in the whitepaper but I don't think it went into details.

>>1514403
Explain? I don't crypto but the idea of making tax free money is interesting

>>1514592
It didn't, but it's explicitly a feature and the white paper implies it's based on the number of blocks since the account was last "active." I didn't see any real details, though, which is why I brought it up.

Weird that nobody would ask. I'd think this would be concerning.

>>1514952
You can trade any crypto for BTC and you can buy anything with BTC if you're clever enough.
I'm pretty sure it still counts as tax evasion if you get caught, though.

>>1514465
Go to poloniex
Log in
Click on eth
Sell order
Amount of eth
at price either enter .03btc or sell eth/usdt for 20
Sumbit order

wait.

>>1515005
>>1514592
>>1514569

Let me get this PascalCoin straight...

>you need to be a successful miner before you get a wallet
>you can't even transact unless you get lucky enough to find a block.
>you account has to stay 'active' or else your pascalbux get reclaimed.

This is the dumbest fucking crypto ever design-wise. I don't even care about its special ledger or whatever. This is anti-investor and terrible for a store of value.

Hey guys what's the latest pump and dump coin I want to mine it and get rich

>>1515029
Wow you're thick.

>you need to be a successful miner before you get a wallet
The wallet is the program you download from the pascal thread.
>you can't even transact unless you get lucky enough to find a block.
If you have nothing to transact, what is the point of wanting to make a transaction?
If you want people to move pascal around, you:
1. Get it paid into one of your accounts (called new operation)
2. Get them to transfer one of their accounts to you using your public key
3. Transfer one of their private keys to you. (usually only done for setting up multiple miners, not be used to pay others)
>you account has to stay 'active' or else your pascalbux get reclaimed.
This is years we're talking about, and it allows accounts and inactive pascal to be recycled.

Dipshit.

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEeEEEEEEeEEEEEeeeee

Microsoft deleted my VM with 2 MH/s i still had 8 days FREE reee now i only have >3MH/s reeeeeeeeee

>>1514467
You're betting on whether the hashrates will be worth the money or not. For instance, will new hardware come out? Difficulty raise? Price go down? If it was proven to be profitable they'd do it themselves.
TL;DR: maybe, you probably won't get burned that bad though

>>1515149
>mining
Mine ETC/ETH on GPU and Pascal/whatever the latest spicy CPU algo coin is on CPU, then exchange it.

Time to buy the ethereum dip friends

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/cryptletsdd/

Can you see the moon guys?

>>1515186
Yeah u think it'll go up more?
Isn't the devcon2 pretty much done?

>>1515013
So not the Stop Limit.
You can just submit a sell order for a higher price and when ETH hits said price the order will be executed, did I understood correctly?

>>1515151
>If you have nothing to transact, what is the point of wanting to make a transaction?
To receive, obviously. Who is going to buy my Pascal if nobody has an account?

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>>1509002
Reposting this:

Ok how do you detect spoofing/other kinds of market manipulation on this site?

I feel like making money on Polo is ridiculously easy if you can predict when a coin is about to be pumped, but afaik you can't really do this without insider info.

Is there anything to look for in terms of order book irregularities?

>>1515461
You can tell whether the coin is being manipulated by the order book. Also, if people are talking about a coin, chances are you are already too late.

>>1515461
>>1515466
that's the thing. everytime it's too late.
i can't predict shit, and when I begin to read about it, it's mostly too late and will profit the bagholders only.

what should I look for in the order book to know it's being manipulated? so if I see it's being manipulated, I should hurry up and jump in while it's being pumped?

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>>1512267
>>1512175


But what is this all about? I thought I'd get accounts and a 100 pascals when I'd find a block?

Is there something I'm doing wrong here?

>>1515151

I downloaded the program, asswad. I couldn't get a single pascalcoin until I successfully mined a block and received 5 addresses.

Let me just go ahead and reach out to some successful miner for an address. That's totally user friendly.

>>1515466
>You can tell whether the coin is being manipulated by the order book.

Yeah, but how? What do you look for?

Massive buy/sell walls? But how would that tell you WHEN a pump would happen?

>>1515481
>>1515519
How long does it take to find a block? 3 hours with 2Mh/s and still no block

>>1515521
Charts show if history is about to repeat itself.

The order book sell/buy walls can sometimes look like a smooth hill upward, instead of rigid, that's usually a sign of manipulation.

>>1515524
You'll probably be mining for three days straight and finding one block at this point.

>>1515345
You send them the account...
>>1515519
Get the account with the money inside it from the payer.

Yeah it's not very intuitive, sue me.

Ever thought these currencies never take off because its hard to figure out how to fucking buy them?

>>1515568
It's honestly not hard

>>1515568

Are you serious?

http://pastebin.com/NvpQXzwk

>>1515572
I think he's talking about normies having difficulty

>>1515568
BTC can't take off anymore because transaction fee is now as high as the one for Paypal, except Paypal doesn't take half an hour to confirm your payment. So for anything other than buying drugs, it's just a shittier version of Paypal to most users.
ETH doesn't even have a light client yet.
Other coins might have potential but they aren't accepted anywhere.

>>1515576
This.

Bitcoin's transaction bullshit needs to be fixed already. It's ridiculous and crippling its expansion drastically.

>>1515576

myetherwallet.com nerd

>>1515589
That's not a proper light client. You can't expect people who know anything about security to put their private key on a website, even if it's only processed with client-side JS.

>>1515583

People have been saying this since Litecoin was first created. It's a huge issue that 4 years later the bitcoin autists seem to completely ignore. The problem is people were stupid enough back in 2013 to build an entire infrastructure dedicated to bitcoin payments, and it exploded in their face.

Do we have a legitimate cryptocurrency yet?

>>1515628
It's only really started to become an issue, though.

When it costs like 9 cents to send some coins + an additional hour to be confirmed, it's fucked.

>>1515576
>>1515599

https://twitter.com/avsa/status/773639237258375169

It's coming pretty soon.

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What was the reason of this drop?

>>1515672
Retracing and accumulation.

To the pussies who aren't mining Pascalcoin, go lose your $10 bag on XMR again

Actually make some fucking money

http://pastebin.com/fDaAhueQ

>>1515715
If that worked, why wouldn't the people who run the datacenter just use all of their resources to mine it themselves?

>>1515781

Crypto isn't their hustle and don't know anything about it. They don't check on your shit.

>>1515715

I'm not going to get you your referral dollars until I'm sure that I'm getting it right, m8. Is anything wrong with the setup in >>1515481 ? Does anything have to be changed so I can actually own some pascal?

Vultr pascal mining is officially no longer profitable. get out now. network hash rate is too much.

If you really want pascals it's cheaper to buy them https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1618905.0

>>1515781
I work in telco and we've had customers mine BTC in our datacenter back when it was semi-new.
I'm thinking I might mine ZCash using it, we're got pretty good rates per GHz.


A question for vultr pascalcoin miners - they say they give you 24 CPU's for 640$, but not have much GHz each CPU has. Where can you find this?
Just asking because if vultr charges per GHz, we have way better rates.

>>1515715
holy shit kys faggot. Pls everyone report this cunt for shilling so that he can get money through referrals while you waste your money on a shitcoin

>>1515944

Does anything show in pending operations?

>>1515481

also this may work

Keep checking the explorer accounts box until it works. Also just try the private key your block went to.

I have a AMD Radeon R9 200 with free electricity is it worth it to mine on my home comp?

>>1515958
Too easy to get scammed

>>1516084
Yes. Use NiceHash miner for windows, nerdralph's static ethminer-nr for Linux. Don't mine if you have <2GB vram. Stick to ethereum/ethash. For maximum profit you can fuck around with kernels bios over/underclocking undervolting and shit, but that's not needed. expect $30-50/mo profit

>>1515662
It has always been an issue since late 2013. I remember it took around 10-20 minutes per transaction. Today it's over an hour.

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>>1516084

Yes, use minergate probably the easiest and most efficient windows miner

https://minergate.com/a/51037e1d7fd7c63c3572b20e

How much pascal is everyone holding?
I might jump in on this.

>>1516185
> 30-50$ monthly profit?
u high anon? I mined the shit out of a small 4xR9 280 last year and got like 5-10 bucks per month.

>>1516257
any interesting results so far?

If(when) Pascal becomes available on the exchanges, how much do you guys think it will cost?

>>1516472
0.00000001 BTC.

>>1516475
>tfw just realised my ID says bong...


DUDE.

>>1516475
wtf i hate pascal now

>>1516491

DUDE

What does mine say?

XCP looking bullish AF. Market cap and coin supply is tiny. I suggest you guys look into it.

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There are going to be about 20 million bitcoins in circulation but there are 10 billion people on the planet.

This presents a problem.

Help me think of new names for bitcoin fractions.

Examples:

1.0 Terabit
0.001 Gigabit
0.000,001 Megabit
0.000,000,001 Kilobit

ect. ect.

Slang terms are also fun. (Quid, Buck, Greenback)

>>1516544
But Anon, there's already names for them.

>>1516545
oh. what are they?

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>>1509002
/biz/ | /ccg/ opinion on contract/cloud mining?

>>1516547
uBTC
mBTC
BTC
kBTC

>>1516544
So in your system a "bit" is 1/1000 of a satoshi, the smallest denomination?

>>1516475

I would go around 6-10 cents USD.

Pascal obviously has some genuine innovation behind it.
But realistically, what is the application for it?

http://www.blockchainweek2016.org/schedule_en.pdf

This is the schedule for the blockchain conference that's coming up. If you notice, there is 0 mention of bitcoin, all the focus is on other technologies. Predominantly Ethereum. Fuckin Vitalik is opening it up to.

With all the major companies throwing in their support during DevCon, I think it's clear where the big money is interested.

I didn't know you guys already had names. I was just farting around.

>>1516593
So etherium represents some sort of cryptography asset? Do all crypto currencies represent some sort of cryptography software platform/ software suite?

How does the DoD feel about all this?

>>1516605
No, but people can put 'tokens' that represent assets on ethereum. Ethereum is basically bitcoin with scripting, so people can run 'smart contracts' that automate shit.

Seriously just advanced bitcoin in summary. It has every advantage. I'm not going to explain it all here. Do research

>>1516612
Doesn't that create security vulnerabilities?

>>1516613
Such as?

>>1516613
It definitely creates potential for that on the contracts running over it, but not on the network itself.

>>1516613
I thought the beauty of bitcoin was its simplicity.

Isn't a bitcoin just basically a very large number recorded in a server somewhere?

>>1516624
So you know literally nothing about cryptocurrency, eh?

>>1516612
I always kind of thought of scripting as a half finished language. Text is unwieldy. If it were fully fleshed out it would have a GUI and an icon interface, the script would be supplemental.

>>1516627
oh come on, all obfuscation aside, its basically just a big number, recorded on about half a dozen redundant servers, with your account information and its transaction history.

The hard drive is encrypted, the wireless traffic is encrypted, hell, the encryption is probably encrypted, but at the end of the day every dollar has a serial number, its the same basic idea, except once their done printing BC they lock up the press and send it to the warehouse where they keep the ark of the covenant.

The problem with BC is all the pretenders to the throne.

BC has nothing to leverage itself against. Countries can always rely on strength of arms, but BC is based in Micronesia.

Basically, the problem with bitcoin is that it has to rely on governments to enforce its contracts. It has no means of arbitration should one party decide to renege.

>>1516629
>I always kind of thought of scripting as a half finished language.
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>1516636
>oh come on, all obfuscation aside, its basically just a big number, recorded on about half a dozen redundant servers, with your account information and its transaction history.
???????????????????????

With BC, there is no way for someone to get blacklisted. If a party continually and repeatedly breaks its contracts, BC can't even revoke your accounts, much less seize your assets.

>>1516650
I don't understand cryptocurrency at all, please explain it to me =)

>>1516650
You seemed confused.
Can I help you with something?
Did you wander into the wrong room?

If you study history, originally currency was based on the commodities market and grew as a natural extension of barter.

If I wrote a smiley face on a peice of paper and signed my name to it, you wouldn't accept it as currency. It has to be backed by something.

That the whole reason crypto geeks created crypto currency, right? That currency was no longer pegged to the gold standard? That most companies that sell securities were incapable of solvency? That fractional reserves had become almost meaningless in the face of the Glass-Stiegel act?

>>1516665
They wanted to create a hedge against inflation, but the value of their currency is based entirely on public perception of its value. Whats to prevent anybody from doing the same? Why should anybody accept your currency as legal tender?

>>1516673
>>1516665
>>1516657
>>1516653
>>1516649
Nigga what the FUCK are you talking about

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>>1516687
this

>>1516687
English not your first langauge?
Should I get an interpreter?

>>1516698
Nothing you are saying makes any sense.
Your bizarre rant reveals that you both know nothing about BTC and think you know everything.

>>1516705
okay then.

enlighten me.

>>1516711
First read the white paper:

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf

>>1516711
>its basically just a big number, recorded on about half a dozen redundant servers
This is a nonsensical thing to say. You're describing a centralized system. Bitcoin is not centralized.
It's a complete, unencrypted ledger of every transaction ever made, with whole copies kept on thousands of individual machines.

>The hard drive is encrypted, the wireless traffic is encrypted
The ledger is public. All transactions are public. The system could not work otherwise because it is not centralized.

>BC is based in Micronesia.
What the fuck does that mean?
BTC is not based anywhere. It is decentralized.

> the problem with bitcoin is that it has to rely on governments to enforce its contracts.
Nonsense again. The system enforces its own contracts. Once a transaction is buried under six blocks it is effectively impossible to reverse.
The blockchain is fraud-proof by design and I'm not aware of anyone ever defrauding the Bitcoin or even Ethereum blockchains.

>With BC, there is no way for someone to get blacklisted. If a party continually and repeatedly breaks its contracts, BC can't even revoke your accounts, much less seize your assets.
It works like cash. You blacklist the person, not his account. If some guy has a habit of ripping people off, you stop doing business with him. You can also do business with the help of a trusted third party, like a crypto exchange, to avoid the issue.

>>1516726
If its decentralized then how does it does it verify that its not a duplicate?

If I pay a guy with bitcoin to mow my lawn, and he doesn't mow my lawn, what is my legal recourse?

If BC doesn't store any sort of account data, then how does the system verify that it belongs to you?

>>1516730
bls stop baiting

>>1516730
>If its decentralized then how does it does it verify that its not a duplicate?
Blockchain.

>If I pay a guy with bitcoin to mow my lawn, and he doesn't mow my lawn, what is my legal recourse?
Sue him, just like if you paid in cash.

>If BC doesn't store any sort of account data, then how does the system verify that it belongs to you?
Blockchain.

>>1516734
>Sue him, just like if you paid in cash.

Easier answer would've just been escrow.

>>1516734
but bitcoin isn't a currency inside the US, its a security. You can't take someone to small claims court if you paid someone to mow your lawn with microsoft stock.

>>1516745
If I give you fifteen shiny rocks and in return you agree to mow my lawn, and then you never mow my lawn, you defrauded me on a verbal contract and at minimum have to return my fifteen shiny rocks.

>bitcoin isn't a currency inside the US
Literally depends on which government agency you ask. The federal government has inconsistent rulings on whether it's a currency or a commodity. I'm not aware of any agency claiming it's a security.

>>1516734
>blockchain

that sounds like a magic word. you want to know a few other magic words? Phlogiston. Phrenology. Quantum.

>>1516745

Holy fuck shut up.

You're doing this on purpose and it's obvious as fuck. If not, you're the type of idiot to say "I bought .0007bc I must be a trader now."

>>1516770
Ah, you really are baiting.

So, and correct me if I'm wrong here, each bitcoin has its entire financial history embedded in it. I fail to see how this acts as a unique identifier.

Assuming the financial history is recorded on your phones harddrive, how do you determine those records validity?

I'd assumed it was cross referenced against a handful of cloud servers, but you make it sound as if anybody could simply manufacture a transaction history.

How does recording the coins financial history prevent me from duplicating its signature?

>>1516784
The history of every transaction ever made is stored locally on thousands of individual machines.
The history which a majority of nodes agree is "true" is assumed to be true.

>>1516797
Why would your local machine continue to store transaction data after you had already spent your coin? Whats to prevent someone from deleting that data?

How do the nodes cross reference each others data? Does every bitcoin have the transaction history of every other bitcoin?

Without a serial or unique identifier, what distinguishes one bitcoin from another? You make it sound like the transaction history itself is somehow the identifier.

If the blockchain is not cross-referenced with some sort of centralized database, whats to prevent you from simply copying it?

>>1516810
>Why would your local machine continue to store transaction data after you had already spent your coin? Whats to prevent someone from deleting that data?
Absolutely nothing.
But if you delete the data, your node won't work.

>How do the nodes cross reference each others data? Does every bitcoin have the transaction history of every other bitcoin?
Every full node contains a complete history of every bitcoin transaction ever made. There are light wallets that don't contain the full ledger, but instead communicate with full nodes to keep up to date. I don't know the details of how those work.

>Without a serial or unique identifier, what distinguishes one bitcoin from another? You make it sound like the transaction history itself is somehow the identifier.
It is. The transaction history determines who owns what at any given moment in time.

>If the blockchain is not cross-referenced with some sort of centralized database, whats to prevent you from simply copying it?
You are supposed to copy it. That's how it works. The more full nodes with complete copies of the blockchain exist on the network, the more secure the network becomes, because an attacker trying to create a fake blockchain (say, one where he owns all bitcoins) would have to get more than half of all nodes to agree with him.

>>1516358
Ethereum is very profitable nowadays. My 270X gives me $30/month.

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>>1517006

Ugh, when are they gonna flipping lower monero's transaction fee.

>>1510520
Why do you say minergate has negligible gains?

>>1517006
is that just one 270X or several?

>>1517006
Do you use minergate? Is it normal for the share difficulty on ethereum to keep going up? If I'm not mining it says 1,000,000, and then when I start mining it just keeps going up to 8,000,000+

>>1517045
One, 11 mhash
>>1517172
Miningpoolhub

What's the difference between ETH and ETC?

>>1517314
ETH is a dictatorship, ETC isn't.

>>1517340
Wasn't the fork agreed on by the miners?
Really, it couldn't have happened otherwise.

>>1517340
What does that mean in particular?

>>1509002
HOW TO MINE CPU BASED COINS FOR SUPER CHEAP
>http://pastebin.com/fDaAhueQ (embed)

Is this still profitable?

>>1517350
https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1xZ_LUyiaLXI7kweqrDEB-mtWrAfAR_tUAs5buxuG0mc/edit#slide=id.g16b1744dc0_2_1387

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>>1517366
As far as I can see no, it is not currently. Altough you get some free credit when you link your card so you can mine a bit for free.
[spoiler]Here is my ref link if you feel generous: http://www.vultr.com/? ref=6989727-3B[/spoiler]
Also a question to experienced vultrfags: pastebin says you should get 24 cpu server though it looks more profitable to get many of the cheapest 1CPU servers since you don't pay for SSD space and RAM which you give no fucks about anyway.

>>1517482
Wew, kukloscript doesn't show markup button anymore, I feel so lost..

>>1517288
What is your electric cost?

>>1517366

I'd wait for zcash before mining now. Hash rate has gotten too big for pascalcoin but you can still make some money, just the amazing gains the early adopters got.

EVERYONE, I DO SUGGEST YOU MINE PASCALCOIN IF YOU'RE NEW TO MINING JUST TO DIP YOUR TOES INTO IT BEFORE MINING ZCASH.

how do i into mining eth?
ive been trying to use minergate, even though i know I need to set up an actual miner and all that but i just havent had the time lately, between work and classes
I have free power at the dorms and a 295x2 so I know i can make some good profit here, I just cant seem to get it configured

>>1517619
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1433925.0

>>1517619
setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100

EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool POOL_URL -ewal WALLET ADDRESS

Just add your shit there and put it in a batch file.

A person with 1 billion dollars could build a rig with so much hashing power that it can form its own blockchain and double spend its own transactions fooling others its the legit chain collapsing the bitcoin network plummeting the price to zero proofing its failure thus destroying this industry. If Bitcoin starts threatening the banking industry say goodbye to your lil shitty coins

>>1517711
A person with a billion dollars wouldn't waste their money doing that. :^)

51% attacks are hardly a problem now.

>>1517715
No but a group of persons (((rothschilds))) will.

1 billion is nuddin, the only safety you bitcoiners still have is your insignificance

>>1517719
Why would they? What do they get out of doing that? Bitcoin would just fork and everything they did would be completely pointless.

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>>1517721

the port for the pool i want to mine in is blocked on my network, can i use a vpn to get around this?
are there issues that will come about from this in terms of configuration? what about hashrate?
what can i do to solve the problem? or alternatively, what is a good pool for eth mining? i dont really like the pay structure on ethpool.org unless someone can convince me otherwise

>>1517745
Try https://eth.nanopool.org/

>>1517750
thanks hoss you the real mvp

>>1517574
0.05c/kWh, 180 W -> 0.01c/hr -> $7.5/mo

>>1517619
See
>>1516185

For pool use miningpoolhub/nicehash (check ethash price on nicehash)

Rep release when?

Holy shit. Are those Nicehash stats correct? If they are then what is stopping people to buy more GPUs to mine? Even my GTX970 which I though was shit for mining shows 40$/m profit.

>>1517906
Which algo?

>>1517973
lyra2rev2

>>1517976
>lyra2rev2

Using NiceHash's miner?

>>1517979
Yes. 22.2MH/h.

>>1517982
Lawd. I'm gonna set this shit up now.

>>1517985
Fuck, sorry eventhough I said profit on my first post, I forgot to add the electricity fee. For me with 0.11USD/kwh my profit would be around 30$.

>>1517906
>>1517976
what? im confused here fellas

>>1518000
I made a mistake on my first post by saying 40$/m profit. It should be around 30$/m with GTX970.

>>1518004
no im confused about the lyra2rev2 protocol thing, is that for local mining or server mining? is that another way to mine current coins like eth or is it for some other coin?

>>1518011
I think you mine a coin called Vertcoin in a pool and then get paid with BTC.

>>1518015
oh ok, ill have to look into that

>>1518019
Download nicehash miner, it will show you monthly gains from mining x algo and auto exchange to BTC

The NiceHash miner keeps closing itself as it downloads the miners.

Fug. Wat do?

>>1517745
>>1517750
is there any way to get around the port being blocked? I've been mining on nanopool for around 2 hours now and when i put my address in to check and the website still doesn't return any information
it seems like it would take forever for me to get paid using ethpool, but as of now it seems to be the only option that actually works on my network. ethermine seems pretty good, but 4444 and 14444 are both blocked.

>>1518036
Try a proxy?

>>1518036
thats what i was thinking. will that have any effect on the miners or anything like that?
>>1518033
for the other algos i would need just the general nicehash miner, correct? but if i want to mine eth then i should just get the eth miner
sorry this is all kinda convoluted to me

>>1518044
>>1518039
the first part was intended for you

>>1518046
Nope. A lot of pools/miners come with proxies.

Nanopool won't show you any statistics unless you've submitted one share. Does your miner say if you've accepted a share or not yet?

>>1518051
i just switched back to ethpool for now but the console showed 95 submitted shares

>>1518044
NiceHash can mine eth too
>>1518036
Use a VPN, or set up a ghetto proxy at home

Has anyone had an issue with NiceHash closing itself at random intervals during the miner download?

Disabled antivirus, allowed the app through firewall, started as admin. Nothing has worked.

My buddy recommended c-cex and poloniex to me, is either of those better?
What exchanges so you guys use or recommend?

>>1518213

Polo for the best coins
Bittrex for coins that can go on Polo
C-Cex is for utter shitcoins
Yobit is the worst. do NOT go here.

Are their any hardware wallets that support a lot of alt coins?

>>1518236

No.

>>1518256
So basically I should just buy a cheap smart phone and create my own

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Now the bitcoin community has scored an important, if seemingly small, victory. In a landmark decision, U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan in Manhattan ruled on Monday that bitcoin was indeed to be treated as money, for the purposes of adjudicating an alleged hacking attack against J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. (JPM) and other financial institutions.

>>1518466

NEW THREAD

>>1518613


ACTUAL NEW THREAD

>>1518213
shapeshift.io
>>1518236
>>1518259
HW wallets are a meme, use paper wallets as multisig prongs