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Does rags to riches actually exist, or is it just a figment of people's imaginations that you can go from nothing to something? Most of the SV success stories and otherwise seem to be people from fairly wealthy families, Zuck, Bezos, Gates etc
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>>1471802
There are statistics kept on generational mobility.

Believe it or not there is still a good chance for poor people to get rich. Their chances are diminished of course. The upper class is actually growing. There is a greater division between the wealthier classes and the poor, and the middle class is floundering. Don't get me wrong--there are plenty of poor people who don't have a shot in hell at becoming rich, yet still believe they have a shot, which explains why some poor people are still voting republican outside social issues.
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Not everybody can be rich but just by pursuing the dream you increase your chances significantly compared to lower class scum who never aspire to be anything.
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>>1471811
>which explains why some poor people are still voting republican
Maybe they just don't want give all our money away to worthless pieces of shit?
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>>1471802
There are only 3 ways to get rich in a capitalist system.
1. Inheritance
2. Win the lottery
3. Steal it
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Carnegie
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>>1471802
Sure it does, it all depends how badly you want it.
If you don't have something it means you don't want it badly enough, because otherwise you'd do everything in your power to get it. 80% of people have no discipline or desperation to ever accomplish anything outside wage slavery.
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>>1473537
I want it bad. But not bad enough to drop everything distracting me from it. For example I go to the gym 3 times a week, those three hours could be spent programming more so I could get better and better. Should I just drop everything and go for it?
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>>1473838
no you will still nedd to go to the gym to not become a fat dumbass. (you will likely see a reduction in mental abiliyies once you get put of shape.) But, use your mindless brute time in the gym to brainstorm ideas and applications for your programs. somstimes i like to wditethem down or put the ideas in to my phone so i dont forget. use tbe time to plan and think as well as to get physically fit.
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the boomers had a greater shot at it though
>friend's dad came from bumfuck nowhere, a village with literally 300 people, milked goats for most of his teens
>goes to uni for econ
>thirty years later he's on the board of directors in soc gen

but today there are less straightforward ways to make it and the whole ordeal is a lot more volatile, you can literally get incredibly rich in a single day
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It's possible with hit products, but it's not sustainable.

e.g. toby fox might have made a gorillion dollars on Undertale, but it has little official merch and no lasting brand power. he might HAVE a million or more dollars, but it'll be spent eventually and he doesn't have other revenue streams that make nearly as much.

now, going from abject poverty to the middle class, that's easy peasy. things are so cheap these days and jobs tend to pay so much and have such good benefits that you can totally get by and then some with some dinky sales job or blue collar work.

Shit nigga I'm in the military reserve of my country and make about a hundred and ten dollars (before taxes, pension, etc) to do literally nothing. I am of the lowest rank and not trades-qualified yet. someone just two ranks up from me can literally lead a middle class bachelor lifestyle on two days of work per week. petty officers and actual senior officers make enough and have enough work that they can live subruban family lives on the pay of just being a reservist. regular force guys tend to do the same but have much nicer cars. and these are people that constantly complain they don't make as much as their peers who work in software or blue collar stuff or whatever. contractors on ships (as in, people painting and fixing engines and shit) laugh at us because they make like three times as much as us and work half-days.

It's hard to become RICH but it's easy enough to make enough to buy a house, feed kids, and have a decent car and have a bit left over to go drinking with the boys once in a while. (at least outside of america)
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>>1473838
Read "The One Thing", or don't. If you still have distractions it means you're not disciplined/desperate enough to make your dream into reality.
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>>1473895
>if you don't devote 100% of your time to something it's not really your dream!!
this is meme advice from people who have never had real hobbies. if something is your dream, it will be desirable enough to do that it will fill the majority of your time.

art and music are good examples -- good artists and musicians didn't git gud by irl grinding like it's Disgaea up in here, they just liked playing music so their leisure time was filled by practice.

additionally, it's important to get away from those same things for a while so you don't start getting "developer eye" -- staring at the same piece of work for hours on end will eventually blind you to the mistakes in it as it normalizes in your head from staring at it so long. that gym time is important to get out of the programming mindset so when you come back to your code, you can look at it and say "wow what the hell was I thinking" and fix bugs that you might have otherwise been unable to fix by being stuck in one routine of thinking by never leaving your original train of thought (which may have been wrong)
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>>1473905
It's also meme advice from a self help book, I realise that some self help advice is good but some is seriously overboard and designed to appeal to people who are desperate.
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>>1473938
"work smarter not harder" is the only meme self-help advice you should follow
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>>1473849
This, legal pads are great IMO. Some of my best ideas come at random times, was doing pull ups one day and got an idea for a ANN charging scheme that was faster than my old one. Don't worry about making sloppy notes, paper is cheap and getting the ideas out is more important than anything. You can then do revisions and pick of the gems from your first notes. After several iterations you will have a clear idea of where to begin.
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Yes, but transitioning between social classes is actually much harder than people think and doesn't involve burning a bin of "fuck you" money on your front lawn in an oil drum with your brand logo on it.

When you have money your family transitions into public service and becomes part of the power structure, which lets them maintain themselves as the investor class. New money has to learn the ropes the hard way.
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$KNPD is the only ticket to instant wealth. Granny tier investments wont save you
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>>1473460
>muh socialism

No.
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