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Reminder that buying and holding the S&P500 or the total stock market will give you better returns than 99% of /biz/
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ELI5 pls
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>>1274749
Companies do good and bad and if you hold a lot of them together in a basket they tend to do the same thing. Either all up up or down. Buy the basket!
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>>1274719
I'm well aware.

My portfolio is currently:

VFV - s&p 500 index ETF(denominated in CAD)

VCN - FTSE Canada All Cap Index ETF

hope it goes gud and i didnt fall for the bogle meme
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>>1274749
When you buy the S&P, you are buying ownership in the companies that make the things that americans buy every day.

Across wars, political strife - whatever - it keeps on earning. Look at the graph.

Buying the S&P500 gives you a passive income stream for the rest of your life. It's not "risky" if you hold for a period of at least 10 years.

This is so simple and straightforward, yet, no one knows it.

Buy $10,000 worth of the S&P500 and you'll earn $700 per year, on average, FOR FREE.
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>>1274719
>not just tradying SPY options
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>itt:acciuntung retards
Im out performing the s&p, just like 70% of the market has been for 6 months.

Just because you dont have the time to git gud doesnt mean your shitty meme etf is better than actual analysis. Now fuck off.
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>>1275330
ELI5 please
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>>1275351
see you in a decade loser
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Fuck, do you really need $10,000? I have $5k laying around
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>>1274719
Feels good to be in the 1%
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>>1275412
No, you can buy the slightly higher fee version.
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>>1275387
>anon gets a whole 70% return on investment across a decade.
Congratz on not starving to death, seeing as itll be your only life accomplishment.
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>>1275412
There are other Vanguard stocks to invest in that have a much lower barrier.
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>>1274772
Your graph understates the effect that the Great Depression had, the effect is more than likely going to repeat at some point.
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>>1274761
Rate this portfolio please
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>>1274772
>Buy $10,000 worth of the S&P500 and you'll earn $700 per year, on average, FOR FREE.

yeah, that's ofcourse insane generalization based on 100 years avg lel.

in fact, 0-9% annual return is quite unlikely and %10-25% or -5-15% for example are much more likely real annual returns for a single year.

the real reason why indexing beats stock picking is pure math. sp500 performance is due to 5% of the top stocks past 50 years. if you take out 80% outside the top stocks you would have had a clear negative return. so if you dont buy the wide enough you have simply worse odds at markets than you would ever imagine
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>>1276570
DO YOU EVEN SMALL MINUS BIG BRO
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>>1276706
rate my portfolio faggit

>>1274761
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>>1276711
it's good but what are the proportions? i really think that usa is the best country when it comes to making money
>valeant
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>>1276716
>it's good but what are the proportions?

Like 70/30 s&p500 / Canadian all cap
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>have dumped $25,000 into vanguard funds
>total gain is under $100

fuck this year
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Do you make dividends from these so called s&p 500 401k accounts?
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>>1276918
yes
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>>1276711
you don't have a portfolio
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>>1276963
t-that constitutes my portfolio... ;-;

I only buy those two
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>>1276964
get into more positions
get into options so you can quantify your probability of success
quit fucking around with anything else
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>>1276711
6/10

Total Stock Market Index has basically superceded the S&P 500 so get that instead.
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>>1276981
VUN?

https://www.vanguardcanada.ca/individual/mvc/detail/etf/overview?portId=9557&assetCode=EQUITY##overview

Seems like it's not that good, and got outperformed by just the s&p

>>1276974
That sounds too complicated
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>>1277000
then making money with money is too complicated for you
hand it over to someone who is capable
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>>1277002
>hand it over to someone who is capable

I thought that's what I was doing by entrusting it with Vanguard?
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>>1277004
Why are you listening to advice from a poorfag NEET poser? If this guy could truly beat the market, he'd be paid millions by any trading firm.

Stop being gullible.
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>>1277043
I'm not taking his advice I just want to hear what he has to say to get both perspectives and be able to form a better view
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>>1277044
Then go ask the homeless guy on the corner too. Because his advice is likely to be better than the fag you've been ass kissing in this thread.
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>>1277055
In what way have I been ass kissing anyone here?
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>>1277043
I trade options for myself.

>>1277004
You're not giving your money to a money manager, but you're buying shares of a fund managed by Vanguard.
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>>1277063
>a fund managed by Vanguard.
Kek. Tell us all that Vanguard does to manage an index fund. Other than ... I don't know ... track the index.

Impress me, master trader.
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>>1277076

you're retarded, aren't you?
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Nigga I want to earn more than $700 a year.
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>>1277076
since you're so smart, explain how to track an index efficiently
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>>1277164
Depends on how much tracking error you're willing to accept versus trying to save on trading expenses. Since you didn't define "efficiency" you're question can't be answered.

I suggest spending some time on Google learning how index funds work before trying to act like a smartass.

Faggot.
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>>1277189
you're the one acting like a smartass

i know how they're tracked, i'm asking you to explain it

but you can't
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>>1277076
If they didn't manage the fund, then why do you have to pay an annual fee?
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>will give you better returns than 99% of /biz/

Apparently, cryptocurrencies are 1% of /biz/.
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