if we pay the government taxes for government services (ie police

Tax Refunds are basically for you over-paying your taxes or other credits based on your contribution to society which is accounted for.

For example spending $10,000k/yr on tuition or having 5 children gets you money back because you're contributing to the economy and society for a calculated amount

>>1220608
even if we overpaid our taxes that must have some effect on these services?

>>1220617
Why would it?

They're not giving you money out of nowhere, it's excess money after these services have been paid already.

>If we overpaid
Not if, you ARE overpaying taxes according to the government if you receive a tax refund.

>>1220632
i see thank you :-)

tax refund is sleight of hand to make you feel like you're receiving something from the government

>>1220668
It's just paying you back money that you overpaid for taxes.

>>1220652
Yep. It's your money, it's not taken from anything else :)

>>1220673
so people that say we're socialist for paying the government taxes are wrong because we eventually get it back right

>>1220673
same reason they deduct directly from your pay. imagine how much more cognizant people would be of what's being taken from them if they had to pay income tax manually

>>1220679
you get some tiny fraction back. so they take what they need and a little extra to make you feel happy when you get a few shekels back

>>1220679
>so people that say we're socialist for paying the government taxes are wrong because we eventually get it back right

No i think you are misunderstanding.

A TAX REFUND is you receiving money back that you OVERPAID on your taxes. You certainly don't get it all back, or even a hefty portion in most cases.

>>1220681
It sucks, but in life there is only two things that are certain. Death and taxes.

>>1220607
Dear idiot. if the clerk at the checkout counter says you owe her five bucks. and you pull out a ten. She gives you five back. Same with tax refunds.

The liberals made it so the common man has his taxes disguised and taken automatically instead of paying themselves. What this means is the accountant at payroll for your job kind of guesses your taxes, and usually rounds up from there to make absolutely sure you're covered.