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Hi, /biz/. I work a shitty minimum wage job for 48-60 hours a week (data-entry). I get a lot of free time during the first half of the 12 hour shift, so I am left to do whatever the fuck I want, and I'd rather use it productively.
I have decided to take up programming. Eventually I want to land a job that is at least above minimum wage for starters.
I know that I'll need to learn multiple languages etc.
What do I start from though? Which language (or combination) will land me a job in the shortest period? (note that I do not intend to stop learning there)
How long should I expect to be learning to land a job in the best case scenario? 6 months? 1-2 years?
This thread is also for discussing the general job market.
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>it's a what programming language should I learn episode
seen it so many god damn times, pls kill yourself or at least lurk more
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>>1094921
I didn't say which one I should learn, fag. Which one should I start with?
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>>1094921
>lurk
>on a board where posts disappear every couple of days
>on a board where nobody should re-ask old questions
Anyway, OP should start with either VB6 or a simple website with PHP, JavaScript, or both. What you want is an environment where you can get a window or page up without fucking with a million little tools. This will allow you to gain a basic understanding of data types (integers, strings, etc), control structures (ifthen, loops, etc), and libraries with visual feedback (buttons, alertboxes, etc).
After you master that stuff, then you can move to more difficult subjects like databases, graphics, etc.
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>>1094963
>implying those at different questions
seriously though learn kneepads
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>>1094907
Depends on what you want to do really.
Statistical analysis? SQL, SAS, Haskell, Python, etc. Web development? Java m8. Learn java and all your wildest dreams will come true.
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>>1094990
Learning a language is easy, and gets easier after you've learned your first.
The thing you need to learn is the math behind programming. Discrete math and algorithms, not calculus. If you don't learn these concepts, you're as bad as the H1B visa Indian who's code I have to review and correct.
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>>1094996
I see. So basically having a sense of logic and understanding thoroughly how the computer thinks and how the shit I write works?
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>>1094996
unfortunately if you're in an average business environment you'll rarely use any complex algorithm because your code needs to be simple enough for everyone on the team to understand
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>>1094988
How does one "learn java"? What do I need to download to start making webpages? How do I go about making a website? God damn, I even took programming in first year uni but I still have no idea how to actually MAKE a webpage that other people can view.
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>>1095081
I have no idea brah. I don't know java, I'm more familiar with the statistical analysis stuff I mentioned. I'm just a data analyst brah.
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>>1094984
I second this, kneepads is a good language to learn, it can get you $90k/yr starting
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>>1095059
And depending on how stupid your team is, you can be extremely limited in what you're allowed to do.
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>>1095081
How does one go poo poo in toilet.
I dun forgot how to make brown :(
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