Upstate New York

>Buffalo
>Rochester
>Albany
>Syracuse
>junkies
>shitty weather
>unemployement

>>1318447
It's like a strangely NY version of the midwest. Economically depressed, though, so you can see lots of decrepit run down buildings in the cities. A lot of the farms have really cool dumpy btfo buildings on them, too.

If there were to be an economic resurgence, it would be a hidden gem of a location. But NYS laws suck dick anyway so you might as well live somewhere else.

I lived in Oswego for about six months once. Upstate reminds me of the past-prime cities and towns of Pennsylvania like Allentown and Wilkes Barre. All the industries left and they're depressed as hell. But there's tons of beautiful farm country.

>>1318447

30 miles north of NYC it's pretty much "Yankee Arkansas" except around mid-size urban areas like Rochester, Syracuse, Utica etc..

>>1318451
Places like Utica and Syracuse are such a /comfy/ level of depressing gray cold and decay. An enterprising individual could dream of buying up a whole block of abandoned warehouses for $1.50 to live in, but then you'd probably have to pay $4M/yr in property taxes or some stupid shit.

Albany resident here, fuck this state. don't come here, you're wasting your time and making taxes worse on the rest of us morons who are trapped here

>>1318447
If you turn it 90° counter clockwise you can see the merchant. That's what's going on.

>>1318447
Rural and suburban retards.

>>1318447
literally the same as the typical conservative states

>>1318447
This post:
>>1318448
Also
>INCREDIBLY boring

Syracuse - Taxes forced all the big businesses to leave = no factory jobs anymore - Liberal AF - Sanctuary city *yay* - Nig nogs have ghettoized the city - Taxes on cigs + $10 a pack

I can only speak for the 607...

>heroin addicts everywhere
>blame their CHOICE to use drugs on a nonexistent "disease"
>blame the area for all of their problems
>everyone claims there are no jobs
>"NOW HIRING" signs are literally everywhere
>almost everyone between the ages of 20-29 is "best friends" with Jon Jones
>everybody worships Florida and North Carolina
>people here typically go overboard with drugs until they hit 23, then they "find Jesus" and become preachy gym fags ("If I can change, so can you! Fight your demons with Christ! *insert shirtless Family Fitness photo here*)

the amount of confederate flags and rednecks i see around here would have you think that this is Dixie.

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>>1318447
Buffalo faggot here.

At the turn of the 20th century we were one of the richest cities in the world. Its been downhill ever since due to horrible design decisions and niggers. Mostly niggers though.

We still have a lot of nice architecture.

But a lot of the old Victorian houses on the east side are filled with niggers now and they are slowly destroying those. What usually happens is that they will go vacant and then some niglet will burn it down for fun.

A lot of the nicer buildings downtown got destroyed in the 60s and the 70s and were replaced with urban housing (for niggers) and parking lots. Picture is of the Erie County Savings Building that was destroyed and replaced with this ugly tower that's now mostly vacant.

Surprisingly, Buffalo has been experiencing somewhat of an economic renaissance due to their growing medical campus but the fact of the matter is that its still in JEW York state, so people are still leaving. Jew York is a horrible state, never come here.

>>1318450
Basically this. Most people now think cities have always been cesspools filled with brownies and communists, but they were actually very clean and beautiful back in the day. The only thing that keeps me from killing myself is a civil war.

No jobs, no money, vacant buildings, plethora of niggers.

Most of the state is very beautiful and would be so much better off without the fucking boat anchor New York City.

>>1318460
Oh yea that's another big thing now. "Muh heroin". The disturbing part is that these retards expect the government (i.e. taxpayers) to start spending billions on preventing and "curing" their bullshit """disease""". I wish we would let these pieces of shit die. Absolute cancer to society that is beyond saving. FUCK them.

>>1318451

> "Yankee Arkansas"

Isn't that exactly why the mob established towns like Eureka, AR during prohibition?

(fyi, that town is insanely gorgeous)

>>1318447
Rural upstate NY is awesome, aside from the fact it's in NY.

>>1318466
I say the same thing, but I am always met with "ur ignorant" or "Yikes!" from some self-proclaimed "expert" (i.e. nursing student) who thinks addiction is a disease simply because their asshat friend(s) died from the shit.

I lived in Gilbertsville NY, its literally the posh liberal area of upstate NY. They pretty much live in a bubble and shit on everyone that isn't them, its amazing.

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WHO /716/ HERE?

>>1318471
me. currently living downtown. wbu?

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Live in Town by Newburgh. City of Newburgh is fucked by illegals and niggers. Location isn't bad though, right by 87 so the city is only 45 minutes away

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>>1318472
>downtown
Quite far from the city, thankfully. Close enough to be suburban, but not close enough to have crime.

>>1318474
Yea I'm moving to East Amherst. Amherst has been ruined by niggers, have you noticed?

Lived in amherst for a short while. Buffalo is kind of boony based on my one time being there// being a Bills fan watching their fans slob it up

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>>1318447
pretty based. My Dominican friends and I needed to get a job, so we had to go upstate to one of the headquarters for paper work.
It was snowing and it was a trek by train then foot.
We got there about 15 mins before closing time, everybody was out, and the guy's like "These guys busted their ass, let us do them a solid and take a loss"
did the paperwork for us.
Coolest whites.

>>1318447
Utica. Refugees and niggers galore. https://lorettatheprole.org/2017/06/05/my-hometown-is-gone/

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>>1318475
When I was in High School, I noticed the vast majority of Amherst's athletes were black, so yeah. 20 miles~ away it gets comfy.
>>1318476
It's because we are so bad. the drinking dulls the pain.

>>1318448
also niggers

who /finger lakes/ here?

>>1318471
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>>1318479
also 716 here, living in southtowns

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>>1318448
rochester reporting in

we got mad niggers

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>>1318482
How's the situation over there? Probably very conservative.

>>1318447
I live across the river from Waddington...I love upstate NY, every 2nd house is a mobile home with a new truck ina driveway...
And the Lowes is bilingual...English/Spanish, and I don't think I've ever seen a mexican this far north desu...

>>1318447
It's beautiful, at least the catskill ski area is. Towns like Phoenicia are quaint and perhaps make the best pancakes in all of ny at sweet sues. Tannersville is also a nice place. I believe there's a lake there and in the summer it's a chill place to be. Not sure what the other anon mean about niggers, but ill assume they are contained in major cities like Albany and buffalo. I've visited Woodstock, but really didn't see what the big deal was/is.

Saratoga is maximum comfy famalam

>>1318485
>spanish lowes that far north
I don't habeeb it.

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>>1318486
There are a series of fruit named streets in the buffalo area that are as dangerous as oakland.

>>1318449
>But NYS laws
Hello ignorant cunt. You really think Upstate NY economy went into the shitter because of Gov laws/taxes? You must have drank from the local streams, polluted over the years by big corps.

The only reason Upstate NY was developed was because it provided a means to service NYC, and avenue to receive products from the Mid West & Canada. Hence the construction of the Erie canal.

Once infrastructure (roads & bridges, etc) improved and with the development of Interstate Highways and Bi-Ways, Rail systems, there really wasn't a need for Upstate.

Those towns will NEVER get an economic resurgence by American companies. In fact, the best thing would be to let refugees settle them and open up their own little shops and businesses. That's the only thing that will help those areas

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>>1318468
This, southern adirondacks here. I love where I live but the taxes are forcing me out of here for some place comfier, perhaps KY

>>1318447
We're the civilized version of Pennsylvania.

All those cities have pretty large ghettos.

The rest is normal people. A lot of guns, hunting fishing, etc.

>>1318490
>refugees in MY area
Go fuck yourself.

>>1318447
We spend all of our time working to pay for the welfare drain that is NYC.

Nigger hives in every city. High taxes, obnoxious laws. Liberal infestations in the college towns. Roads are shitty in the usual democrat-governed fashion. Lots of decrepit buildings and closed businesses from Cuomo's constant attempts to bleed us to death. Upstate Secession when

>>1318487
Where are all the illegals working that ICE has been busting up there recently? Are they all at the track?

>>1318462
>Surprisingly, Buffalo has been experiencing somewhat of an economic renaissance due to their growing medical campus but the fact of the matter is that its still in JEW York state, so people are still leaving. Jew York is a horrible state, never come here.

Fun fact, it's a faux-renaissance, population of Buffalo is still declining at a record pace. No one wants to live in this decrepit city.

>>1318490
Hi, I'm a NY expat. The laws are awful and if you ever tried living in a different state you'd understand that.

Thanks for a little dose of that good old NY attitude though. That's one thing I will always value having.

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>>1318498
give source pls

Do you guys realistically think we're going to get any type of resurgence, or are we going the way of Detroit?

But really, the finger lakes, Catskills and Adirondacks are pretty nice. Just stay away from the cities and be ready to get assfucked on taxes.

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>>1318447
Its pretty much a comfy cold version of the south. Most of the city's are mediocre and filled with poverty.

>>1318483
40 minutes outside of Rochester here, been seeing a lot of niggers around my parts as of lately.
I thought you guys were containment to keep them out of our area?

Also,
Get the fuck out of Rochester, what are you doing.

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>>1318490
How the fuck is a kabob stand going to replace Kodak oh mighty economic expert?

I know you are trolling or retarded.

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>>1318462

>its all the niggers fault

It's the fault of the death of the eerie canal -- that was the economic engine of the city and the rest of upstate NY. Once that was gone, of course the place will go to shit and halve in population in ~50 years.


That's the problem of all of upstate NY. Other than a handful of services and farming, there's really nothing out there that's turning any sort of profit, so people out there just sort of exist and get by, and the one's w/ talent move away.

It would be nice if industry came back to the area, but until the chinks/pajeets decide to strike for higher wages, or we come up with brand new industries, I don't see it happening.

Which is sad, because upstate can be pretty beautiful

I live outside of Syracuse and work in Syracuse. I get asked for money from nigs about three times a week on my walk to work.

The amount of beggers is insane here, and most of them are junkies who are legit professional beggers who actually have houses and cars.

The poor people ruin this city.

>>1318447

It's where they tax the hell out of cigarettes to pay for upstate jews on welfare

>>1318501
Not sure, if trump builds a decent trail line there maybe.

>>1318501
It was slightly interesting when they put in that no taxes for new startups law in, and to see subsidized tech and medical industry projects pop up. Having Wall St. in the state basically ensures that it will never be allowed to implode in advance of the rest of the world.

But as an average person I would place my bets on a getting a good deal somewhere else.

>>1318504
A lot of groids settle around around the the mega prisons to be closer with family.

Down state groids move north because it is cheaper and maximizes welfare.

>>1318447
The best place in the world if you work for or in corning inc.

>>1318451
A drive thru the 6th Borough known as Upstate:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNVB4i80vRw

>>1318489
Yea the "Fruit Belt". I live right near it. Niggers need to be put down!

>>1318495
Lol are you sure about that bud?
My tax dollars keep your hospitals and schools open. You guys make up half of the population and make a 4th of the average income. There is no way in hell that your tax dollars contribute anything to downstate.

>>1318506
The canal was obsolete by end of 19th century because of rail.

However we still a massive economic manufacturing powerhouse until the 1980s.

>>1318500
It was a [BN] article from a few months ago, I can't find it and just keep getting that fucking subscribe shit.

It went into detail about all the upstate corruption cases, lack of development, and how utterly useless public utilities are.

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>>1318448
>shitty weather

Are you a nigger, perchance? It's warmer on average than Northern Europe. There is literally nothing wrong with snow and cold weather. Those conditions were where the white race was forged.

>>1318510
Startup NY was the biggest farce on the face of the planet, they outspent the tax revenue it generated on advertising the program alone.

>>1318519
Oh I remember that sham. Didn't they have Robert DeNigger doing all of those commercials?

>>1318448
From buffalo, can confirm

>>1318519
And I had exactly 0% surprise at that outcome.

One more idea that seemed good on the surface that was completely squandered as usual by the incompetent, infantile state government.

>>1318471
Yep. I was surprised at first at how many of us post on /pol/ whenever this is brought up, but then I think about the problems of the area a little and it all makes sense.

FEMA = NY State infrastructure fund. Let it go to hell and hope a storm washes it away so the Federal government can cover 75% of the repair/replacement costs.

>>1318520
Yeah, it was a joke. What did they think all these businesses were going to do? Stick around when the assrapingly high taxes kicked in?

>>1318511
I'm south of you, we used to just have a lot of Puerto Ricans, who I can tolerate for the most part.
But lately it's been a bunch of black families moving in all around, with there kids in the middle of the fucking road all the time and they don't even give a shit.

Still feel bad for you, went to MCC for a stint in Brighton. Wow that was a shot show when I was there, I assume its only gotten worse.

I've got family that's Rochester PD, so I've heard of what goes on up there.

>>1318519
Is the point of the program not jobs? If it was to generate taxes then it failed at inception.

>>1318515
>New York City only contributes a relatively small amount of funding to the MTA — with much of its budget being handled by New York State, under Cuomo. But advocates for better NYC transport have argued that the city is not contributing as much as it should.

“New York City’s contribution to the MTA’s capital plan has not kept pace with inflation. If it had, the City would have contributed $363 million in 2014. Instead, it has contributed an average amount of only $100 million each year since 2000,” the Tri-State Transportation Campaign argues on its website.

>“It is not the time for the city to go into new means of spending that are state responsibility,” de Blasio huffed at a press conference in response.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/30/nyc-to-pay-16m-for-illegals-lawyer-fees-subways-held-together-with-zip-ties/

>>1318471
212 Master race, you pretty much one of the worst area codes in the state.

>>1318483
I went downtown to see fireworks and the RPO and it was awesome. Once the show was over we saw probably hundreds of niggers infesting the street, barely any cops. And we walked for another few minutes, and I'm not even kidding, there was a fucking gang fight. They were carrying paint rollers on sticks (so clubs) and fighting and acting like fucking animals. I recorded Snapchat videos but it's really hard to see what's going on.

I also recorded some black people with their hands glued to the horn getting out of a parking garage.

All in all, I'm happy for the suburbs. I will be moving out of here soon because it's obvious to me it only is getting worse.

>>1318471
We got any 585's?

>>1318527
Of course it wasn't jobs, that's just what Comeau was spinning it as. NYs only goal is to increase tax revenue, job creation just happened to be a beneficial side-effect. Until all the business left that is.

On that note, who's ready for that Solar City implosion?

>>1318490

Wrong. The Erie Canal was important in the 1820s because of trade. However, Rochester was kept on the map by Eastman Kodak, which screwed the pooch about two decades ago when they said "digital cameras, that'll never catch on" before getting BTFO by companies like Cannon, and filing for Chapter 11.

TL;DR Short-sighted corporate idiots fucked over Rochester's economy.

Why the fuck was this moved here?

>>1318549
Because the mods have to ruin everything.

YEEEEEEEHAW! WE MADE IT TO /BANT/ BOIS

RIGHT WHERE UPSTATE BELONGS

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REEEEEEEEEEEEE why was this moved?

>>1318531
i c u over there rochester friend

WE
ARE
NOT
YOUR
TRASH
CAN

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>>1318531
Went down town last night. Afterwords is where I saw the nigger hordes and it was aggravating. How the fuck are our cops so bad that they let these animal youth run down the street like it's an apocalypse movie? How do they let them get into gang fights on the side walk and in the street? Fucking useless idiots. RPO is beautiful btw and if you're in Rochester please go watch them. I wanted to post a picture I took of the bridge last night but file is too big.

Also, WE MAY HAVE TONS OF NIGGERS BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE THE GARBAGE PLATE.

>>1318460
lol I went to school in Binghamton (pre college)

NYS got bant lol

>>1318631
They're trying to calibrate the right level of response. Not too many years ago, they were raising a lot of hackles over too much of a police state, and there's been a clear shift toward letting messes play themselves out instead.

This is beneficial from several directions. They get people wanting FEMA help or whatever else. They get to pick up funds rebuilding the stuff that gets broken. It beats down and demoralizes the population into expecting and accepting this as the new normal. And it continues to rise of social disorder (terrorism lite) in order to backstop the power and legitimacy of the government as the world descends into global communist revolution, transhumanism, and all the rest.

>https://lorettatheprole.org/2017/06/05/my-hometown-is-gone/
About Utica
Fuck everyone should read that. Fast track replacement of population, just like in Europe. Except I had no idea it was that bad in the US (except Dearborn and Minnesota)

>>1318533
Very true about Kodak. My entire family worked there. Grand parents, Uncles, Father, brother....

Screwed so many out of retirement.

>>1318589

How is it there? I moved away about 8 years ago. I'm about an hour south now but I haven't been back. Grew up in Greece. I do miss it at times. Where I am now is a small town filled with inbred white trash that think everything that has happened to them is someone elses fault.
It's fucking gross.
And no one with good weed. I miss that so much. Been so long.

>>1318675
They're doing it pretty much everywhere there's a city in danger of coming apart. Also why Canada is stewing in Zhangs to keep its housing bubble properly insane.

Even in my relatively prosperous new home city they're pumping them in like nobody's business to reap the economic benefits before it blows out.

So I take it /bant/ is where threads go to die?

>>1318676

And don't even get me started on Xerox. Same shit different day. Copany strikes it big, manages to make its name synonymous with making a photocopy. Execs get complacent and stop taking risks, only to get BTFO by new tech because technology companies live and die based on reading trends and keeping with the times, and some risks are actually necessary.

>>1318736
That's the entire point of the board, yes. Now the numods can move a thread instead of outright baleet so the retards don't complain as much.

>>1318515

Oh boy a faggot from Jew York City telling me he isn't a drain on the rest of the rest of the state. I've never seen that before.

Any 518's?

>>1318447
Jefferson/Oswego county border

Lots of Methheads

>>1318796
Where does upstate end? Is it the MA/CT line?
What is it like in the not upstate but not NYC?