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I hate modern metal. It's like it was deliberately made

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I hate modern metal. It's like it was deliberately made into a joke. From black and death to screamo, it's just unlistenable.
>screaming/growling
>nearly no melody or some emo/postrock/mathrock bullshit
>double bass pedal ad infinitum
>muh dissonance/noise/experimental meme, aka "I can't write music but I'm very pretentious"
WTF happened? I love old metal, from Maiden, Priest and Ozzy to Pantera and Metallica. Moreover, I love tons of other stuff beside metal. But this modern metal shit is just diarrhea put on record to me.
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I know that feel lad.

Unfortunately, Americans got a hold of it and, just like everything else, they ruined it with their cringyness.
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dig into subgenres if you want to find nice music
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>>1132712
Govnoed, plez

BM and screamo give 1000 times more emotion than heavy metshit played gor 12 y.o. dolboebs
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>>1132807
Oh yeah, it's either black or white, black metal or Aria and govnari
That's some high-quality argument
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>>1132712
what do you think of this metal? http://youtubedoubler.com/l1YD
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>>1133004
Never liked Slayer to be honest. It's ok but it also has too much shit I was talking about
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>>1132712
noise and ambient have been a genre for a very fucking long time.
also like the greece guy said, check subgenres for what you want.
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>>1133053
What does it have to do with black and death metal and growl? Yeah, I can enjoy some good ambient when I'm in the mood, like Aphex Twin's works and such. Not noise though, it's the pinnacle of hyper-pretentious non-music, 2deep4u avant-garbage for /mu/ audience.
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>>1132712
> postrock
> bullshit
Take it back! TAKE IT BACK
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>>1133049
oh so you don't actually like metal
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Listen to Vaginal Penetration of an Amelus with a musty carrot. Its like Maiden
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>>1133352
I do. I see Slayer as proto-all things I hate. Thrash can be ok, it's not my fav genre but I do like me some Metallica and Megadeth. But guess what; both had some nice vocals, some great melodies, and rhythm.
Slayer is too much hardcore punk (the most degenerate genre there is), and too little music. There's no singing; little melody; no rhythm; just pure autistic speed, abrupt chord changes and dissonance.
It's just "deconstruction" of music, that is the dismemberment of everything good, and pissing on its corpse. No wonder (((Rick Rubin))) liked them so much: not only they praise Satan, but promote the ultimate degeneracy.
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>>1133142
No wonder so many Russians like postrock. Sad music about shit life. Жизнь дepьмo, вce бaбы бляди, a coлнцe eбaный фoнapь
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>>1133473
What Metallica has been doing the past few decades is pure degeneracy
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>>1133532
Well… Yes? S/T (or "black album") was already pretty controversial and took out much of their thrash roots, but after that I don't even want to listen to be honest. Then again, almost every band going for so long will output shit in "few decades" after its inception.
I am not a huge fan of thrash and thus Metallica as I said, but I do like their '80s work, and I still listen to Kill 'Em All occasionally.
Slayer though, I enjoy for speed, technical aspect, and a little bit for the aesthetics. I know people like them… But I just don't. This is the line for me after which unlistenable metal starts. All that doom, black, death, whatever tryhard metal. Honestly, Alice in Chains is better 'metal' for me than that.
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>>1132712
You're describing about 1% of modern metal. The metal "genre" is just too broad to generalize in any way.
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death is pretty good band tho
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>>1133523
> No wonder so many Russians like postrock
No:-; its just beautiful

> Жизнь дepьмo
It is indeed, but who cares

> вce бaбы бляди
Again who cares

> coлнцe eбaный фoнapь
Nope its a giant burning piece of gas that tries to kill me every summer

Dont be rude give it a hear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex2OZTTNeeM
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>>1133657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO7TZGgBbOw

what about 3 Inches of Blood?
>inb4 this song isn't from that album
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>>1133757
Thanks bro, but tastes just differ. It's not the kind of music for me. I love me some music with energy, rhythm, hooks and riffs. I hate "atmospheric" stuff, I think it's pretentious as hell. Last but not least, I prefer cheerful stuff, life in Russia is already bleak as fuck
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>>1133762
Sounds like Priest/Accept meets punk/metalcore, so not those modern genres I referred to per se. It's pretty good, at least it has melody and good lead guitars.
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It's ok if you don't like harsh vocals and blast beats, they're not for everyone. Imo there's really good metal that utilizes these techniques among others to create really powerful and emotional pieces. There really is a fine line between good atmospheric dissonance and pretentious hackage, but the day you feel shitty enough that the whole black metal thing clicks will be the day you start to gain the ability to recognize that line.

That said, if you're a Sabbath guy, check out some of the more bluesy subgenres that really take after them. Sleep, Kyuss, Samsara Blues Experiment, dopelord, to name a few.
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>>1133473
>listens to metal
>complains about degeneracy
is this bait?
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>>1133964
Heavy metal used to have melodies. Randy Rhoads was one of the most influential and proficient rock guitarists of his time. Eddie Van Halen, although tangentially metal, also had amazing skills. Jake E. Lee, John Sykes, Glenn Typton… Don't give me shit please. They wrote actual music, unlike any EDM or hip-hop artists.
I'm not saying it was the peak. There was also prog and stuff. But it was great for what it was, fun but interesting musically too
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Evanescence is still the single greatest heavy metal band out there
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>>1133900
Yeah, I do occasionally stumble upon some surprising finds. Once saw a metal essentials chart on /mu/ which I can't find now, there was one album which really caught my attention. Though it was all those things—screaming, math rock, etc—it was actually well put-up and had some logic to it.
But then it made me wonder—why make it both "smart" music and screamo blastbeat stuff? Felt like a hybrid of clashing things, to be honest.
I do know though I'm more of a heavy metal guy than anything else.

>>1134196
It's black metal you schmuck
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There are lots of great bands out there, try digging more 2bh
And heavy metal is pretty basic in term of ambiance or melodies compared to those "new bands" you seem to be talking about
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>>1134217
I could try and explain the appeal of the screaming and blasts but it probably won't help much unless you hear it in the right mood. Essentially there is an intensity, an emotional intensity, that a lot of black metal artists chase. When you are trying to present an emotion that is so raw, massive, and personal, a normal singing voice is way out of the question. Next time you are going through hell and feel like snapping, throw on some good black metal (could be Burzum, Darkthrone, Drudkh, Leviathan, whatever, people will give you shit no matter what) and it might not seem like it's clashing.

I love black metal but I hate 90% of "black metal", so that's what I mean by personal.

Also good for if your in a blizzard or have a sucking chest wound. Almost becomes comfy.
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>>1134304
ok I'll try those
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>>1132712
>modern metal
>describes subgenres that have been a thing since the early 80s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plk2bK1-FLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twFu0ZABwvk
>>1132712
>>muh dissonance/noise/experimental meme, aka "I can't write music but I'm very pretentious"
Not a modern thing at all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3uV_ZuPOcw
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HOLY DIVER
YOU BEEN DOWN TOO LONG IN THE MIDNIGHT SEA
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>muh glorious soft old metal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJo1rC_KRt4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlwL4C3-ClQ
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>>1134491
I know. But these seem to be flourishing today. Unlike heavy metal

>>1134536
Yeah man
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>>1134196
>Evanascence
>The Best
kek, try Iron Maiden or Dio
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>meanwhile in the 80s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlTMjXMK3dc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEHoMcSC5Yk
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>>1134568
It's a forced but popular /mu/ meme. Someone ironically posts the cover of Evanescence album with the caption "does /mu/ like black metal"
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>>1134690
>/mu/
>good taste
kek
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>>1132712

Modern metal is what autism sounds like.
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>>1134746
This. Even poppier metal like Def Leppard sounds better to me than that.
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I wish we could turn back time to before death and black meta-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVd--6DNQ6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC4vthHVa78
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>>1134746

ADDS: it's literally just "REEEE: the musical". Most autismo metal albums boil down to the following tracklist:

1. Normies Out
2. Muh Big Weapon
3. Muh Oneitis M'lady
4. Spergin out with instruments
5. Muh Military History I Like To Imagine
6. Reeeeeee
7. Beta Uprising: Shootan Up Da School
8. God Doesn't Exist Mom
9. Muh Ancestors
10. Muh Ancient Gods
11. Heh Nuthin Personnel
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>>1132712
>implying metal was ever good
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black metal and death metal is icky I wish we could go back to the 80s when metal sounded like THIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igknO5WAp6o
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>>1135008
Shut up, you aren't even best girl.
I'd bet you're actually the worst girl!
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>doesnt like double bass
>doesnt like harsh vocals
>only listens to entry level thrash
>thinks metal with screamed vocals ("screamo" lmao) is a new thing
>Alice in Chains is better 'metal'

OP, have you considered the possibility that you're a rock and roll fan?
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How did metal go from this
>1988
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZaT3D-YPEE
to THIS?
>2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODNqxcRQGH4
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>>1135141
>Iron Maiden and Dio aren't metal
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>>1135132
>implying best girl is bad and that "girl" is anything good
>>1135141
>implying hair metal is not metal
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>>1135141
Oh yeah, now it's time for REAL METAL, not my "entry level" child play, right?
Faggots like you are the ones who killed metal as music and made it into autistic screeching. You're the reason metal is considered a joke genre for manchildren.
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How did metal go from THIS
>1984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0TYbJ5CtEs

to THIS
>2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyJf4K23UxA
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>>1135166
>>1135127
>>1134964
>>1134679
>>1134557
>>1134491
You know what I meant. You're being very unamerican
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>>1135235
Metal's been autistic screeching as far back as the 80s when death and black metal started to establish themselves between 1983-1985.

You could even say that metal's been full of autistic screeching since the fucking 60s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8jOhqOsouM
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>>1135189

Dio and Maiden are definitely metal, but I've noticed that the only people who are into them are pudgy thirty-somethings who play their greatest hits compilation between AC/DC while they take you for a ride in their Honda Civic.

>>1135204

>implying hair metal is not metal
It's not. It's just a genre of hard rock that came around when "metal" was a meme.

>Faggots like you are the ones who killed metal as music and made it into autistic screeching
No, grandpa, that happened in like 1987. I'm not calling you a pleb because I don't like your taste. I'm calling you a pleb because you only listen to about 2% of the genre you claim to be a fan of.

Also
>calling metal with screamed vocals "screamo"
Never do that again.
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>>1135305
I guess, but that's besides the point, they're good.
Same with shit like Satriani and Vai
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>>1135305
Black and death metal are definitely metal, but I've noticed that the only people who are into them are pudgy teens who play their endless libraries of same shit while they eat tendies at mom's basement.
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Also
Death SS were influencing 80s death and black metal/extreme metal since the fucking 70s with their screams and pseudo-screeched vocals

>7:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJH-V7Th_DM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_kR2ie_cJ8

Your modern metal boogeyman doesn't exist OP.
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>>1135360
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Literally, every metal singer.
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>>1136098
You forgot high pitched screams
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True Satanic Black Metal are bands such as Darkthrone, Aryan Satankampf, Graveland, the Gestapo 666, Satanic Warmaster, Beherit and Impaled Nazarene. You can listen to Metallica if you want, but you do not understand anything about the real Hitleric Nazi Black Metal.

You are just a poser and you can fuck off from the whole scene. Black Metal is real music, not intended for animals like you, but to the real Satanic Misanthrophes who do not care about sheep like you.

Black Metal is music for the elite and you do not understand it. None of you understand real Satanism. You pathetic little kids. You are naive children.

Our worldview is based on Wotanic Hitlerism, on a personal level Satanic Individualism and on a collective level: Hitleric Fascism.

Without an understanding of theoretical occultism, it is useless to dream of understanding the Wotanic worldview.

None of you can understand Wotanism, for you are all intellectually on par with animals.

You can not reach the elite level of Satanism, so why even dream about it? Satanism and Black Metal are for the elite. For real misanthropes.
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>>1136931
>teleports behind you
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>>1136931
Shit, nigga, get that reindeer out of your ass, it's making you grumpy AF
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>>1134159
Don't forget Richie Blackmore, the god.
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>>1134159
Don't forget Ronnie
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>>1132712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEsmxJvgcjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tty8Kgoc0j4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMbKZPBruU

/mu/ can be useful
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>>1132712
>modern metal.

It's a joke. The "demon voice" grunting stuff? It's a pathetic joke. Zero talent. Only "dubstep" is worse.
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>>1137175
>>1137189
I meant the list goes on, metal had a whole pantheon of gods, and its share of unsung heroes too. Also, that's just strictly 'metal'; RJD and Blackmore started way before that in hard rock era. If we add hard rock, you'll get over the character limit.
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>>1137306
Well yeah, but Ronnie and Blackmore did even folk-y music, like in Rainbow, but they were also really good in the Metal genre
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>>1137306
Im a Russbro living in Canada. Fuck black/screamo/death metal. Shit sucks so much.
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>>1137320
No arguing here. When it comes to opinions, I'd associate them with hard rock more. But at the end of the day, the line between the latter and heavy metal is pretty thin. Many bands got lumped as metal in the '80s when they played the same old blues/rock'n'roll.
From what I listened to, Blackmore never really went for that distorted sustained 'metal' tone. I'd say the same about Dio's solo career, but it's always like proto-metal in my eyes.
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True Satanic Black Metal are bands such as Darkthrone, Aryan Satankampf, Graveland, the Gestapo 666, Satanic Warmaster, Beherit and Impaled Nazarene. You can listen to Metallica if you want, but you do not understand anything about the real Hitleric Nazi Black Metal.

You are just a poser and you can fuck off from the whole scene. Black Metal is real music, not intended for animals like you, but to the real Satanic Misanthrophes who do not care about sheep like you.

Black Metal is music for the elite and you do not understand it. None of you understand real Satanism. You pathetic little kids. You are naive children.

Our worldview is based on Wotanic Hitlerism, on a personal level Satanic Individualism and on a collective level: Hitleric Fascism.

Without an understanding of theoretical occultism, it is useless to dream of understanding the Wotanic worldview.

None of you can understand Wotanism, for you are all intellectually on par with animals.

You can not reach the elite level of Satanism, so why even dream about it? Satanism and Black Metal are for the elite. For real misanthropes.
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>>1138342
You're too late. >>1136931
Please be on time next time or you're fired from /bant/
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>>1132736
>implying it woulldnt be cringy without us
>>1138342
cool pasta

What are you /bant/alopes listening to now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ7vyFnLvjw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5SKZaJRB28

I've been listening to trad a lot lately, not as much death as i used t. but i still enjy much death and black and thrash ofcourse.
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>>1136931
>darkthrone
>satanic

hmmm who is the poser?
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>>1138382
Right now it's actually Blue Oyster Cult's first s/t album. Before that it was: Ozzy—Tribute to Randy Rhoads, Van Halen—For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Mercyful Fate—Melissa.
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Viking metal is the only good genre.
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>>1138439
>viking metal
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>>1138439
t. stop watching porn
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how did metal go from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9zFiza86jk

to THIS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPn2e5zG1Lk
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>>1132712
Watch RanterInShades and PMRants. They know about metal bands.
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>>1133101
because noise,ambient,dissomething and shit is a sub labeled genre of mostly black metal. have no idea why really. but yeah, its related.
just wanted you to know.
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>>1132712
>"I can't write music but I'm very pretentious"
This accurately describes all metal, not just "modern metal". "Old metal" was just one stop of the train of musical degeneration, and it's gone further since them.
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>>1140332
Shut up dirty jew
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>>1140334
Good goyim. Keep consuming degenerate """music""" from talentless hacks. Goldstein Records Ltd. is making good shekels thanks to your compliance.
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>>1140332
>>1140334
>>1140347
but Isreal have got a really good metal scene tho.
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Besides being one of the best metal albums, Kill em All was a fucking GREAT PUNK album. The same thing that killed punk killed metal, and it's this mainstream (european) idea of GENRA AND SUBGENRA. All you AUTHORITARIAN BITCHES who need a fucking REASON to HATE SOMETHING. STOP HATING THINGS AND BANG YOUR FUCKING HEAD.

FUCK YOU ALL

--METAL & PUNK
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>>1140347
Kek, i love u anon xD
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>>1140357
>Isreal have got a really good metal scene tho.
I wouldn't know. I only listen to Yahweh-tier music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHgxOXEQaFU&t=44s
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>>1140597
Ay! Mi sides!!! Mother fucker xD can we be friends fucking jew?
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>>1132712
old fucks like your got all elitist, that's what happened

stop being a hipster and jam the fuck out, fag
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>>1140549
kill em all was garbage; everyone knows ride the lightning was the best
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Does power metal count?

Album came out last August
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>>1132712
Black metal is no joke.
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>>1142669
https://youtu.be/fs6w_C13UTc
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>>1132712
skalmold.
skalmold, kvadning.
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>>1132712
Do you like Children of Bodom?
>>1132736
Shut the fuck up
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>>1132736
You ever heard of Mastodon?? It's American and it's pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kp0LxKTZhk
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>>1132712
Metal turned into a cringe fest after sabbath
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>>1132712
I enjoy goatwhore
Come at me OP
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>meanwhile in the 80s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN-O11Ygq08
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>>1143148
>Leaf knows Xysma

I´m surprised.

What about Demilich?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxizB02d0gE
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>>1132712
I agree. its not pleasing to the ear
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True Glorious Power Metal are bands such as Helloween, Gamma Ray, Masterplan, Stratovarius, Rhapsody of Fire, Blind Guardian and Iron Savior. You can listen to Metallica if you want, but you do not understand anything about real Majestic Heroic Power Metal.

You are just a poser and you can fuck off the whole scene. Power Metal is real music, not intended for animals like you, but for the real Heroic Warriors who do not care about sheep like you.

Power Metal is music for the elite and you do not understand it. None of you understand real Majesty and real Glory. You pathetic little kids. You are naive children.

Our worldview is based on Majestic Chivalry, on a personal level Heroic Individualism, on collective level: Benevolent Monarchism.

Without an understanding of the theoretical fantasy, it is useless to dream of understanding the heroic worldview.

None of you can understand real Mighty Illustrious Power Metal, for you are all intellectually on par with animals.

You can't reach an elite level of Heroicness, so why even dream about it? Power Metal is for the elite. For true warriors.
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>>1143183
>What about Demilich
Everybody's heard of them lad, they're considered the founders of dissonance in death metal.
Ever heard of Obliveon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-MyIYtXtHo
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>>1142768
ARE
YOU
DEAD
YET?
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>>1143360
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>>1143360
True Manly Power Metal are Americans bands such as Liege Lord, Riot, Manowar, Helstar, Agent Steel, Fates Warning and Jag Panzer. You can listen to Helloween if you want, but you do not understand anything about Real Manly American Power Metal.

You are just a poser and you can fuck off the whole scene. Power Metal is real music, not intended for yuropoors like you, but for the manly men who do not care about keyboards like you.

Power Metal is music for men and you do not understand it. None of you understand real Power and real riffs. You pathetic yuropoor. You are naive children.

Our worldview is based on Power and Strength, on a personal level Manly Individualism, on collective level: Violent Anarchism.

Without an understanding of the theoretical machismo, it is useless to dream of understanding the manly worldview.

None of you can understand real Manly American Power Metal, for you are all Yuropoors on par with pop rock.

You can't reach an elite level of Power, so why even dream about it? Power Metal is for the Men. For true warriors.
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>>1143456
I always thought Manowar was English band. Fucking Mandela effect
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>>1142768
>>1143395
Are you 14? Bodom is literally for 13 -year old edgelords
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>>1140191
OK I'll try
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