is DMT a redpill drug or just degeneracy?

>>1121878
It helped me see through the veneer.
Wouldn't call it a Red Pill though.
But it goes give you a lot of perspective.

>>1121878
no drug can change you, just bring out your inner self

if you are a faggot, then you will become even a greater faggot, and viceversa

All these drugs lead to is a false sense of understanding. Show me a single piece of technology that owes it's creation to that shit and I'll eat my hat.

>>1121878
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VavdCpewQbA

>>1121881
well i'm sure a lot of things were inspired by the use of drugs

>>1121881
There's a handful of Nobel prize winners/scientists that have publicly stated that psychedelics helped them discover things in quantum physics/medicine. Psychedelics make you think a lot when you're on them.

Why is hat eating such a challenge?

>>1121884
also classical composers, well, syphilis induced psychedelia but its similar

>>1121881
>All these drugs lead to us a false sense of understanding
Eh, look at the tribal cultures of South America they had been surviving in the harshness of the rainforests for hundreds of years. Their shamans used ayahuasca to 'listen' to the rainforest for solutions to illness. Its not what you would consider 'technology' in today's terms, but they used it for answers and to also cleanse themselves and I believe it was also a right of passage for some. Tell me how you would walk into the rainforest and look for the specific combination of roots and leaves to create the most powerful psychedelic experience on the planet. The drug itself is a technology.

>>1121881
>Show me a single piece of technology that owes it's creation
https://www.quora.com/Have-any-inventions-been-made-under-LSD

anyway, drugs are tools and can have both positive and negative effects. Given to the right person at the right time, the effects can be enormously beneficial. But they can just as easily be used by degenerates at the rave.

All else being equal though, psychedelics are much closer to a redpill than any other class of drug.

>>1121878
Nobody here knows the answer to that and you know it. Get the fuck outta this cesspool before you start talking about the true redpills. Everyone here is too paranoid and sheepish to use psychs.

>>1121881
>false sense of understanding
That is my belief as well. Not false, but not real either.

My friend did ayahuasca and became this ultra spiritual cringe fest for a few months, then eventually he began to lose his mojo and you could see him desperately cling to this zen persona he had built up and now he's just this mixed bag of the old douche he was before and a "refugees welcome" "world peace" facebook poster.

It seems to me that the people who "wake up" and start talking real loud after they did psychs are the same people that were a part of the problem up until then. And they'll drop down again.

>>1121878
DMT is the lubricant of the mind. You can fuck an asshole all you want, but without lubricant, you're not going to get deep enough and it's going to hurt.

>>1121881
Actually LSD more than any other psychedelic drug has been used by various scientists and inventors to help them look at high-level physics or math in a different way. For example, Francis Crick visualized the double-helix shape of DNA while on LSD.

>>1121880
Well, you're doing drugs, you're a faggot already.

>>1121892
ohh yes I knew this, there it is>>1121881, now eat it faggot

>>1121887
>lmao guys I sniffed glue, wow I created a killer tech!

Also listening to the forest doesn't cure yellow fever, etc.

I wouldn't call it "redpilled" but I believe that everyone should try DMT and other psychedelic drugs, in the right mindset, at least more than once.

>>1121893
>that id
d00m

>>1121878
its aight

>>1121892
>>1121894

Source, direct quote if possible. Source or you're both wewuzkangz level niggers.

>>1121881
They sure do
But when people who actually have high intelligence use them it has inspired many great ideas because of the fact that people will tend to look at things in a different way
But no, your average person smoking DMT think they have become more enlightened when they have really just taken drugs which obscure the brain

>>1121878
Only natural doses of DMT are redpilled. Earn that shit and die for a few seconds if you want a DMT trip. Who hear had out of body/death experience befo?

>>1121900
Inspiration is different than a redpill.
I can be inspired by vagina, that doesn't make vagina a redpill.

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Makes me laugh when so many here on /pol/ laud the effects of DMT while at the same time call marijuana users degenerate when both drugs share the attribute of expanding consciousness and allowing the user to see through the lies of the matrix. Come on, pol. Wake up.

>>1121901
I experienced "ego death" once, but really I think I just got so fucked up that I was basically losing coherent thought and with it consciousness over a period of time.

>>1121899
ok it seems its bullshit

http://www.mattridley.co.uk/books/francis-crick-discoverer-of-the-genetic-code/

>I am frequently asked for my opinion on the speculation that Francis Crick was on LSD when he discovered the double helix; or that he was involved with a man named Dick Kemp in the manufacture of LSD. These assertions were reported second hand in an article in the Mail on Sunday by Alun Rees following Crick's death and they have since gained a certain amount of traction on the internet. Both stories are wrong. The true story, which I was told directly by Crick's widow and by the man who (as his widow confirms) first supplied the Cricks with LSD, is much less sensational. Crick was given (not sold) LSD on several occasions from 1967 onwards by Henry Todd, who met the Cricks through his girlfriend. Todd did know Kemp, with whom he was eventually prosecuted, but the Cricks did not. As for the implausible idea that the then impoverished and conventional Crick would have had access to LSD when it was newly invented in the early 1950s, there is simply no evidence for it at all. Those who wish to argue that LSD helped Crick make discoveries should note that all his major breakthroughs in molecular biology were made before 1967.

>>1121903
"expanding conciousness"
Unscientific and vague. Next you'll be telling me about "the frequencies, man".

>>1121878
It's pretty good.
Took it once, about 6 years ago. Best trip I've ever had, it's been a few years and the past year or so I've felt I'd give it another go.

Can't say it's a redpill. But it's far from being degenerate. Gives you something to really think about for quite a while.
Depending on your experience I'd say it's possible to use it in a productive manner if you're lucky and in the right state of mind.

Thing is, to be able to actually handle it you need to have a few tries with training wheels, this is where some might say it gets degenerate. But having experience with other milder psychedelics will prepare you.

A clean slate normie taking dmt is really not a good idea. Nothing productive will come off it.
Might be fun or horrifying. But completely directionless.

>>1121904
Had a heart attack a few years ago, sat on the ruff of the ambulance thinking about how hard it would be for my kid to grow up with out a dad while they resuscitated me. Good times.

Depends on who takes it and under what circumstances. Some are degenerate hippies who see pretty patterns and fry their brains, others might get some valuable insight into their own psyche. Just remember it's not real, the self-replicating 4th dimensional machine elves you see in hyperspace are only in your head.

>>1121903
Stoners are the biggest fucking democrats along with being total bums.
But go ahead and keep expanding your mind

>>1121879

Mushrooms do the same in my experience.

>>1121910
what about the "pothead redneck"? didnt jeff sessions told that the KKK where a bunch of potheads?

I would say the psychedelic right is alive and well.

>>1121878
Where is one supposed to find DMT?

>>1121950
break into the police station and find the evidence room there should be some there

>>1121878
most drugs are degeneracy. only ones even considerable are pot LSD and Peyote and even then you'd have to be pretty good in the head to get anything out of them.

>>1121950
your brain

>>1121908
Gonna need some deets on this one.

>>1121950
Pineal gland. Read The Spirit Molecule (there's also a shitty youtube, the book is way better).

Or, go to Peru and do ayuasca. There are a few "churches" in the US that have gotten an exception to use it in ceremonies.

Find a chemist you trust and synthesize it.

The last one is illegal, so don't do that unless you're prepared for the consequences.

>>1121881
Steve Jobs was known for doing LSD and pot. I can't be fucked to go looking for it right now, but it's out there.

>>1122177
well, steve jobs really didnt to shit technologically, what he did was designing with the mentality of a faggot consumer, he basically told them what to build, but he didnt know how to build it or how it worked himself.

The other fat dude engineer was the one who did all the real work

>>1122220
didnt do*

>>1121878
ive never heard of a good DMT trip. in fact every story I've heard about it went basically like
>ive already done shrooms and LSD and shit but got curious about DMT
>then I did some DMT and it was a bad trip
>so now I stick to molly and mush as my go-to fun drugs

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>>1121878
Welcome to /bant/, baka.

>>1122272
Welcome to /bant/ana, tequila sexo marihuana

>>1122220
http://www.newsweek.com/lsd-creativity-silicon-valley-brain-activity-557055

I'm just playing devil's advocate here. This is what I turned up. LSD microdosing in silicon valley. They've been doing it since the 60s.

>>1122355
A friend of mine who used to work up there said it helps you concentrate but people get all "I'm trippin balls maaaaaan" don't get any shit done, maybe make some cool art.

>>1122261
bad trips are fun

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So what exactly are these DMT elves? I hear that everyone describes seeing the same elves. To anyone who has done this, what exactly do they look like? Do they look like this pic I found in google image search? Do they talk or what? I find this stuff pretty fascinating. I don't do drugs so I don't think I would ever do DMT myself, and I'm bipolar so I would probably have a disturbing experience.

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>>1122526
I got news for you, thats not a fucking elf

after doing DMT, i feel it is safe to say that Scientology is the only true religion

>>1122559

Well what do they look like then?

>>1122593
idk, but that looks like, without the evil connotation, a demon, a being existing in another plane?

an elf, should be flesh and bone, not a weird spirit

>>1121888
Came here just to checkem