WEB 2.0 IS DEGENERATE

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SERIOUSLY /pol/, how did we go from THIS...

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...to THIS????

web kikes dont want you to know this /pol/!

we outsourced it to pajeets and they shit all over the thing

also, it isn't any different with software

for example, adobe photoshop used to be state of the art and is completely unmaintainable at this point

Companies ruined or almost ruined by imported Indian labor

Adaptec - Indian CEO Subramanian Sundaresh fired.
AIG (signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture Indian frauds, collapsed in 2009)
AirBus (Qantas plane plunged 650 feet injuring passengers when its computer system written by India disengaged the auto-pilot).
Apple - R&D CLOSED in India in 2006.
Australia's National Australia Bank (Outsourced jobs to India in 2007, nationwide ATM and account failure in late 2010).
Bell Labs (Arun Netravalli took over, closed, turned into a shopping mall)
Boeing Dreamliner ES software (written by HCL, banned by FAA)
Bristol-Myers-Squibb (Trade Secrets and documents stolen in U.S. by Indian national guest worker)
Caymas - Startup run by Indian CEO, French director of dev, Chinese tech lead. Closed after 5 years of sucking VC out of America.
Caterpillar misses earnings a mere 4 months after outsourcing to India, Inc.
Circuit City - Outsourced all IT to Indian-run IBM and went bankrupt shortly thereafter.
ComAir crew system run by 100% Indian IT workers caused the 12/25/05 U.S. airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int
Computer Associates - Former CEO Sanjay Kumar, an Indian national, sentenced to 12 years in federal prison for accounting fraud.
Deloitte - 2010 - this Indian-packed consulting company is being sued under RICO fraud charges by Marin Country, California for a failed solution.
Dell - call center (closed in India)
Delta call centers (closed in India)

>>1119263
altavista had imagesearch?

wtf

Fannie Mae - Hired large numbers of Indians, had to be bailed out. Indian logic bomb creator found guilty and sent to prison.
GM - Was booming in 2006, signed $300 million outsourcing deal with Wipro that same year, went bankrupt 3 years later
HP - Got out of the PC hardware business in 2011 and can't compete with Apple's tablets. HP was taken over by Indians and Chinese in 2001. So much for 'Asian' talent!
HSBC ATMs (software taken over by Indians, failed in 2006)
Intel Whitefield processor project (cancelled, Indian staff canned)
JetStar Airways computer failure brings down Christchurch airport on 9/17/11. JetStar is owned by Quantas - which is know to have outsourced to India, Inc.
Lehman (Spectramind software bought by Wipro, ruined, trashed by Indian programmers)
Medicare - Defrauded by Indian national doctor Arun Sharma & wife in the U.S.
Microsoft - Employs over 35,000 H-1Bs. Stock used to be $100. Today it's lucky to be over $25. Not to mention that Vista thing.
MIT Media Lab Asia (canceled)
MyNines - A startup founded and run by Indian national Apar Kothari went belly up after throwing millions of America's VC $ down the drain.
PeopleSoft (Taken over by Indians in 2000, collapsed).
PepsiCo - Slides from #1 to #3 during Indian CEO Indra Nooyi' watch.
Polycom - Former senior executive Sunil Bhalla charged with insider trading.
Qantas - See AirBus above
Quark (Alukah Kamar CEO, fired, lost 60% of its customers to Adobe because Indian-written QuarkExpress 6 was a failure)
Rolls Royce (Sent aircraft engine work to India in 2006, engines delayed for Boeing 787, and failed on at least 2 Quantas planes in 2010, cost Rolls $500m).
SAP - Same as Deloitte above in 2010.

Singapore airlines (IT functions taken over in 2009 by TCS, website trashed in August, 2011)
Skype (Madhu Yarlagadda fired)
State of Indiana $867 million FAILED IBM project, IBM being sued
State of Texas failed IBM project.
Sun Micro (Taken over by Indian and Chinese workers in 2001, collapsed, had to be sold off to Oracle).
UK's NHS outsourced numerous jobs including health records to India in mid-2000 resulting in $26 billion over budget.
Union Bank of California - Cancelled Finacle project run by India's InfoSys in 2011.
United - call center (closed in India)
Victorian Order of Nurses, Canada (Payroll system screwed up by SAP/IBM in mid-2011)
Virgin Atlantic (software written in India caused cloud IT failure)
World Bank (Indian fraudsters BANNED for 3 years because they stole data).

PeopleSoft - Taken over by imported Indian workers in 2000 - had to be sold off to Oracle to avoid embarrassment of closing.

Sun Micro - Dying. See above.

Bell Labs - Taken over by Indian-national Arun Netravalli in 2003. Bell Labs where the transistor, UNIX, and the C programming language were invented is now being turned into a shopping mall.

Quark - Taken over by Indian national Alukah Kamar - who laid off all the American developers and sent the work to India. The products became so bad that 60% of Quark's customer base defected to Adobe InDesign, never to return. Kamar was later fired but not before permanent harm was done to Quark.

Computer Associates' former CEO from India is now serving 12 years in federal prison for fraud.

MIT Media Lab Asia - Closed in 2006 due to faked invoices in India.

Intel Whitefield processor project - this project in India was cancelled when Intel discovered that many of the "engineers" had faked their resumes.

ComAir - ComAir's 100% Indian IT staff caused the nationwide 2005 Christmas day airport shutdown when they used a short int instead of a long int in the crew scheduling software they were working on. So much for the best and the brightest from overseas contributing to the American economy.

Boeing Dreamliner - Boeing's new 787 Dreamliner airplane has been delayed 5 times - in part because of failed software written by India's HCL Technologies - whose CEO once said "American grads are unemployable".

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>>1119264
>Sen John McCain calls attacks "act of war"

Some things just never change.

Lehman - This failed Wall St. institution had purchased Wipro's Spectramind software (which they in turn had bought from someone else and messed up) just before it went bankrupt. It also had hired large numbers of India, Inc. workers just before it went under.

Dell - Outsourced a lot of work to India over the past decade. Profits are now down 54%. Michael Dell once said "Stability is more important than growth".

United/Delta - Both companies brought their call centers back to the U.S. from India when they discovered that foreign call centers were harming their business.

HSBC - ATM software was taken over by India, Inc., ATMs began failing in 2006.

AIG - Signed outsourcing deal in 2007 in Europe with Accenture, collapsed in 2009.

Vodaphone - UK's top cell phone vendor has gone into major decline - in part because its CEO from India didn't do the job and walked out with over $41 million in compensation for doing nothing.

World Bank - Indian, Inc. fraudsters including Wipro were BANNED for 3 years because they stole data.

>>1119275
topkek, they have probably used that headline 15 times since 9/11

sure, pajeet meme is funny

but if you only knew how big of a problem this is ...

>>1119270
>altavista had imagesearch?
IIRC it was basically an index of a few stock photography sites.

>>1119275
kej

>>1119270

>he never searched for 'boobs' on altavista

Sweet childhood memories

https://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/indian-programmers-destroying-uk-software-industry/

>>1119263
/g/ talks about this a lot.

Bloat is an absolute cancer.

>Amigas did 90% of what a modern computer does
>about 1/100th the system resources

>>1119263
Fuck off /g/, /pol/ is for politics, not luddite sperging.

Not saying js isn't cancer but get a fucking grip man.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/h1b-visa-program-has-already-ruined-this-country.218217/

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>>1119265
JavaScript

>>1119284
I think the Russian guy is doing a pretty good job of relating this to politics.

>>1119263
2017
>gradients

Nigga you win the retard award

>>1119284
PRO-JAVA IS ANTI-WHITE
PRO-FLASH IS ANTI-WHITE
PRO-HTML5 IS ANTI-WHITE

>>1119275
wew

>>1119286
If you want to have a rage, reload a major web page with your script blockers disabled, and Firefox's network manager running.

I remember doing it on wikipedia and there was more JS than all other resources put together.

http://www.cringely.com/2015/06/24/the-u-s-computer-industry-is-dying-and-ill-tell-you-exactly-who-is-killing-it-and-why/

>>1119287
It's a serbian flag, stupid burger.

>>1119293
lol same difference vlad

H-1B VISA IS NOT A JOKE!

YOU WILL SOON BE DYING IN YOUR CARS, PLANES, ETC

THESE PEOPLE ARE SO DISTANCED FROM QUALITY CONTROL, YOU HAVE NO FUCKING IDEA WHAT'S AT STAKE

>>1119295
NEVER BUY NEW CARS! ANY CAR WITH A (((COMPUTER))) IN IT IS SUBVERTED!

http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/17/investing/india-ceos-google-pichai/index.html

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>>1119276
Add American Express, they have a new-ish VP, niraj nagrani, that is getting rid of all the white directors and lower level VP's but keeping all the brown ones

>>1119264
I miss clean web design. Flashy bullshit is pointless.

>>1119263

It is true man... modern websites are a bloated slow mess.

>>1119269

Yet indians insist they are superior.

>>1119300
It makes you have to buy new computers, and faster internet connections in order to still use it.

>>1119298
Pajeet Midases, one and all.

>tfw browsing the old net was like exploration; every site had its own flavor and you could always find interesting GeoCities/Angelfire sites

Twas a better time, aside from connection speed.

>having to load a page with a billion gifs and smoking-skull background

>>1119303
Planned obsolescence is bullshit too. Expensive shit needs to be built to last.

"EVOLUTION" OF SOFTWARE UNDER INDIAN CEO

Lightroom 2.7: 156.4 MB
Lightroom 3.6: 248.8 MB
Lightroom 4.4: 826.2 MB
Lightroom 5.0: 849.7 MB
Lightroom 5.2: 858.7 MB
Lightroom 5.6: 976.2 MB
Lightroom 5.7: 999.5 MB

The news websites are the absolute worst, especially when they play some shitty video without me clicking it. Everything is huge and the whole thing redlines my CPU with no effort. Fuck, I hate it.

If it wasn't for all this unnecessary bullshit infecting the internet, I could probably still be using a single core machine.

>>1119278
I like you

>tricking people into visiting the final solution
Some things are just priceless

>>1119309
You can come to my house and fuck my sister

>>1119264
It's like a distant memory of the sane world we once had. I remember we watched CNN back then as it was regarded as a trustworthy news source. And it's only 16 years ago...

>>1119309

He is my bro I found him first.

>>1119284
>dumbing down the internet is not /pol/

hmm

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>>1119314
one of the few websites left that doesnt look like a pile of gimmicks

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>>1119316
funny thing is, 4chan isnt even web 1.0, nipmoot is just smart enough to understand that this aesthetic is naturally pleasing to the eyes when its done right

>>1119313
A yank couldn't appreciate our based Slavic boi

>>1119315
It's the movement away from text. When you move to images you separate the need for objective truth or dense information and can instead focus on feelings such as titillation, rage, or excitement.

>>1119318

Let us just agree that his rhetoric is spot on and hoist him on our shoulders.


I am sure you can think of some British song that we can sing in his honor.

>>1119317
What am I looking at here?

>>1119275
haha

>>1119321
The nightmare known as internet explorer.

>>1119317
4chan x's threaded view is web 1.5

>>1119321
a website from the days of web 1.0

bask in the glory of its simplicity and charm. look on in awe as it gives you only what you need with no flashy gimmicks, yet manages to be pleasing to the eye at the same time.

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https://danluu.com/web-bloat/

How all websites should be.

In fact, there should be no websites. Replace it all with Gopherholes.

>>1119325
Why are Microsoft offering Mozilla 1.6 as an alternative to Internet Explorer, and why are they describing it as an update?

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>>1119263
I miss the old days

>>1119327
i dunno its some random google image, the content isnt the point, the aesthetic is. we need to take the internet back from the (((web 2.0))) shills.

>>1119263
true
we need to make the internet great again

>>1119317
It was, before a lot of 4chan x features became site features

>>1119328
Life-like texture ;_;

>>1119305
>>tfw browsing the old net was like exploration; every site had its own flavor and you could always find interesting GeoCities/Angelfire sites
Neocities is trying to address the hole of simple static non-interactive websites left by GeoCities, but they still have a long way to go to become interesting.

>>1119328
I was thinking about XP the other day, and how much it reflects the time. There's the bitmap system fonts, the icons that still look like what they represent, but then all worked around rounded borders and bright colours.

>>1119263

Fuck javascript

>>1119335
But that's how I make my living.

>>1119333
Surely the "interesting" is provided by the users?

The real problem will be getting people to give up their walled gardens and go back to personalised web pages.

>>1119263
>>html5 isnt much better
That is bullshit

>>1119336
you deserve to starve

>>1119338
ok ill admit i was kinda talking out of my ass there.

maybe HTML5 can bring the web 1.0 aesthetic back without compromising white society?

>>1119336
Please stop.

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>>1119334
I went out of my way to make W7 look like windows classic. I miss Win98SE, it was the best OS ever made.

>>1119333
>Neocities is trying to address the hole of simple static non-interactive websites left by GeoCities, but they still have a long way to go to become interesting.
I wouldn't make a site there, because there's such a risk it'll go the way of GeoCities (and a zillion other web companies).

It'd be great if we set up an actual charitable foundation to do something similar though, because people should have a place to put their stuff and have it last forever (archive.org isn't really for websites, and is a bit too pozzed).

>>1119330

Not possible because everything has to be designed for niggers and their phones.

>>1119334
Damn. Now I nostalgia for XP. Twas a lean, mean fighting machine when properly tweaked.

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>tfw Netscape Navigator was my browser of choice
>never fell for the Explorer meme

Check out my totally vintage web 1.0 site. Isn't it great?

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Image didn't upload

thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy8Gb48DKNc

>>1119336

I also, design and "fuck"end

fuck the 72873872873828 js' framework.

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>>1119348
needs more gifs

>>1119351
You're right. It needs more dancing Jesus and flying toaster

>>130705497
No this is thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0K5Xm6K1F8


also fuck the mod that moved this thread

>>1119351

Jebus needs a facebooks account.

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>>1119352
this is perfect given you rainbow faggotry

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>>1119343

>have it last forever

This is a real fear I have with the current digital world: what if it was all lost? You can't print a youtube video like you can a document, so what will happen to all of the multi-media internet were it to all go flop?

A lot of stuff Jason Scott has put up wasn't just taken off floppies and tapes, but transcribed from printed versions. In fact Fidonews has a linebreak character so that the lineprinter knows when to start a new page.

http://www.textfiles.com/fidonet-on-the-internet/878889/fido0619.txt

See that character in he margin? " "? (it might not come up). That's to start a new page on the printer-side rather than the computer-side.

Picture is all of usenet for over a decade. Do you think someone has all of facebook or youtube on the shelf?

>>1119337
Of course. What I see so far is that a lot of users seemed to have signed up but hardly much content has been written.

>>1119343
>I wouldn't make a site there, because there's such a risk it'll go the way of GeoCities (and a zillion other web companies).
True. But hey, at least they make it easy for you to download all the files of your website...

>>1119350
>fuck the 72873872873828 js' framework.

That's how you make big money dummy.

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>>130695429
>Java and Flash have been phased out
You can't run Java or Flash in Chrome because security

>html5 is xml
html canvas is awesome

>OP is a faggot
this post makes no sense; gradients, corners, buttons?

Fuck off mods, this isn't a banter thread

/pol/ trash!
REEEE

>>1119263
>christfaggot bullshitery
Couldn't you have said something about saving computer resources instead you massive
>question mark
FUCK YOU

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mods = fags

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>>1119608
well i got warned so i aint making another thread. i still feel that the over-complexity of (((web 2.0))) is a political scheme to dumb down internet users.

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RETARDED KEKISTANI GET OUT OF MY BOARD
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>>1119698
Complain to the mods Ahmed.

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>>1119263
DO NOT REPLY

THIS IS AN IMPTRASH THREAD

>>1121913
see
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