Jungian mystic here. I am willing to discuss the deep mysteries

you are in my prayers

Kundalini

>>745218478
Remember that raising Kundalini to the crown chakra drains the physical energies to feed to kether. While this gives you spiritual strength, it removes your grounding with the earth. This may not be what you're really seeking. Be sure that you know what you're giving up in exchange for what you're getting.

>>745218380
Cool symbol. What is it?

>>745218380

the fuck is a jungian mystic?

egazini singomunye
ngoba lokhu kuyiqiniso
bonke bayakuphuma
futhi usikhulule

>>745218771
It's a heptagram. It's an archetypal symbol of great power across many different religions and traditions. For instance, to the Christians it's the symbol of Creation across seven days. To the Wiccans it's a faerie star. In Thelema, it represents the Great Mother, Babalon.

>>745218571
Please go into more detail. This is important and I would really appreciate it.

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>>745218892
Carl Jung was a child psychiatrist, and began noticing that all the children he was treating began spontaneously drawing mandalas at about the same age, without prompting. The simplest form of a mandala is a circle with two lines through it in a cross-hairs pattern. Curious, he began researching the symbol and discovered that it was universal across all times, traditions, and religions, and that it therefore had to be something built into the structure of the human brain.

This was his initiation into archetypes. As a Jungian mystic, I follow Jung's tradition of seeking out commonalities between shamanstic rituals, religions, and folklore, seeking what's effective from the window-dressing of superstition around it.

>>745218380
How to open third eye? And is it safe?

>>745218902
Ol nomf vorsg goho iad galt.

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How's the 8th grade going?

Isn't he the one who shit talked about 46&2

>>745218984
There's been some research done into the physiological differences between Zen Buddhist and Hindu Transcendental meditation. Despite the fact that they look exactly the same on the surface, they're doing very different things in the brain. For example, when a noise is repeated over and over again, the normal response is for the brain to have a large response the first time, then a smaller and smaller response each time thereafter, though still being aware of it. A meditating Hindu master, however, has a small response the first time, then a much smaller response the next few times, and then finally no response at all. The brain actually blocks the sound entirely. On the other hand, a meditating Zen master's brain shows exactly the same level of response every single time; it's as if it's being heard for the first time every time.

What this means is that the Hindu practice of raising Kundalini is about denying the illusion of Maya, blocking out the world of the flesh, as expressed symbolically through raising Kundalini to the crown chakra, which aligns with kether kabalistically. This increases your power in the realm of the Godhead, but at the expense of drawing it from the realm of the senses. This is not a good or a bad thing, it's simply a transaction of power. Zen meditation is about centering yourself within yourself, being super-aware of your body as a physical entity. Where Hindu fakirs deny the body and torment the flesh to deny it, Buddhist master achieve control over the body -- heartbeat, thermoregulation, and so on.

Be aware of your goal so you know what it is you're paying for.

When I meditate I feel a swelling / buldging feeling invetween my eyes and where my spine meets my head, what does this mean?

>>745218380
Is it possible to seperate the spirit from the physical body

>>745218380
93 93/93

>>745218380
Aleister Crowley was a possessed fool.

>>745219180
It most definitely is not safe. The deep mysteries are buried in the operating system of the human mind. To "open the third eye" means messing with the factory settings of the mind, and this carries both risk and warnings. The same way your operating system will give you pop-ups with increasingly strident warnings when you try to change important settings which can make your whole computer non-functional ("Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE you want to change this setting? It can make your system PERMANENTLY unstable and CANNOT be undone..."), you will begin experiencing increasingly scary and inexplicable events when you start diving into the unconscious for the deep mysteries. You may experience anything from an encounter with the Men in Black or the Black-Eyed Children to increased activity from Shadow People as you penetrate below the surface of the world. These are there for the purpose of frightening you away from altering the settings which keep you sane and floating on the surface. Opening the third eye means being willing to let go of these safe settings and risk destroying your mind.

>>745219662
>Not OP

It means your nerves are tensing up

>>745218571
I wanted to add that the middle pillar exercise is a great way to build up and cycle energy plus energetically "activate" the major chakras. I'm sure you knew that but I doubt others do.

>>745219741
>It most definitely is not safe. The deep mysteries are buried in the operating system of the human mind. To "open the third eye" means messing with the factory settings of the mind, and this carries both risk and warnings. The same way your operating system will give you pop-ups with increasingly strident warnings when you try to change important settings which can make your whole computer non-functional ("Are you ABSOLUTELY SURE you want to change this setting? It can make your system PERMANENTLY unstable and CANNOT be undone..."), you will begin experiencing increasingly scary and inexplicable events when you start diving into the unconscious for the deep mysteries. You may experience anything from an encounter with the Men in Black or the Black-Eyed Children to increased activity from Shadow People as you penetrate below the surface of the world. These are there for the purpose of frightening you away from altering the settings which keep you sane and floating on the surface. Opening the third eye means being willing to let go of these safe settings and risk destroying your mind.


Either this or simply opening up a can of bullshit

>>745219662
It can mean any number of things. Meditation is an intensely personal experience, and it will conform to the shape of your internal spiritual geography. Do you have a dream guide or a spirit guide? This is a question your guide can answer, since your guide is a personification of a part of your own archetypal personality matrix. It's why you have a guide; it's there to give you conscious access to the more inaccessible parts of your own unconscious mind.

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>spotantious kundalini awakening around the age of 23
>took years of searching and looking to figure out what the fuck actually happened with myself and my mind
>mfw still a mental mess

What is your opinion on drug induced psychosis and psychosis in general?
For example auditory hallucinations of God

>>745219899
No. We get the same sensation when we forget to relax our anus in between logs. He's either not charging enough or not relaxing entirely.

>>745218380
I prefer Leary

>>745218571
>>745219863
93 brother.
I'm in the OTO with PI degree.
I'm intrigued with your Jungian knowledge.

>>745219720
Probably not in the sense you mean. To use Gnostic terminology, we don't have a soul, we ARE a soul. The soul is the combination of spirit (pneuma) and body (soma). Separating the spirit and the body meaning the end of the soul, just as separating the paint and the canvas of a painting means the end of the artwork.

Of course, this will happen eventually regardless, and there are ways of inducing ego-death while still being a soul, but I don't think that's what you were referring to.

>>745219472
just ahead of me

>>745219741
It's safe if you can handle it. To be able to handle it, you need to be able to handle an open mind. An open mind is not "an open mind", as the expression "an open mind" in a liberal sense means easily influenced and controlled by people and ideas.

You need to have a real open mind, which means no strong believes of any kind that you dont want to let go. Everything you know about the earth, science, religion is all human ideas made by humans. The final truth is that nobody knows anything for certain.

People who accept this may become depressed, which means opening the third eye can be risky. If you accept that we don't know anything for certain other than we are all part of the universe, open your third eye and embrace the peace of the universe. We are all different expressions of the same consciousness; the universe.

>>745218902
>>745219224
What?

Being mystic is so gay

>>745219863
Yes, you're perfectly correct, thank you. The pillars are an excellent way of building a spiritual road map which allows you to move these metaphorical energies around in a controlled way.

>>745220191
agreed. It's like having a strong-willed desire to go the opposite direction on the road. Just because your new parent said you should. In the case of Crowley, this meant taking poops on peoples floor and drinking it too

>>745220191
It's a form of mental illness

>>745220192
They're not metaphorical

>>745220326
Bullshit

Jews control the media, the banks, Hollywood and every record label.

>>745219741
I love you bro. I wish I could have known that before but I would not have listened. I had to see for myself. I thought I was prepared but I was not. In essence I was soul raped.

having said that, I sought the truth. I got the truth and I would not take away that experience for anything. now I know. not everyone should begin the awakening process, not until they are ready. but how can anyone be ready for the truth of all thngs, really.. a hard pill to swallow...

stop the hate - spread love. love nurtures and grows, hate destroys. create beauty and love everyone. do not judge.

Is that about it bro?

>>745220280
Just as being gay its justified only for people who had traumatic abusive childbood

>>745220280
Actually it's more of a partial mental illness. With a little power & control, even the rape victim can feel okay

>>745219864
in your specific case, opening your mind in particular, you would be correct.

>>745220346
You have something to add?

>>745219953
Don't worry, enlightenment is always messy and painful. I'm 48 years old and still trying to achieve some kind of spiritual equilibrium.

My awakening came when I was about 12 or 13 years old. There was this gym coach at a club I belonged to, and he was very strange. He was a big, fat, slovenly guy who always wore gym shorts and a stripy t-shirt, and always had three days of stubble on his double chins. One day he gave me a strange look out of the blue and said, "Let's go for a walk."

We began walking circles around the grassy area behind the club and and asked me, "What's life?"

I gave him the answer I'd been taught in school: "Something capable of reproduction, locomotion, and respiration."

He nodded and seemed to change the subject. He said, "Okay, what's a door?"

"It's a rectangular--"

"If it's square, it's not a door?"

"It's a wooden object which--"

"If it's metal, it's not a door?"

"It's any object placed between two rooms which---"

"If I took it off its hinges and laid it on the ground, you wouldn't recognize it as a door?"

And so on, again and again, for about 40 minutes. Slowly I ran out of words and we walked in silence as I began to realize that all my life I'd been using doors, could point at any object and INSTANTLY tell you whether or not it was a door -- but that I had no idea WHY it was a door. And that I'd neither realized this nor questioned it.

And as I thought about this he smiled and said, "Now... what's life?"

And the top of my head blew off. I'd lived in a box all my life and thought the lid was the sky, and he'd just opened the lid.

>>745220410
Yup. The structure is heavily flawed. Meaning the brain. And so the function is faulty.. Common man does a beautiful job at making faulty look sophisticated

>>745220124
this bro speaks the truth. a message of hope for those that would listen, a warning for those who would not.

i need scissors! 61!

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>>745218380
It's my girlfriends birthday on Sunday and I've bought her a dyson v6 vacuum cleaner. My friend says this is an incorrect gift and now I'm worried that she won't like it. Should I also get chocolates?

>>745218380

have you read the red book? (in german)

>>745219975
I tend to take the phenomenological view that the world as we experience it is what we refer to as reality, simply because there's nothing else to which the word "real" could be referring in any useful way. The experience of psychosis is still an experience, and like everything we experience, is open to investigation and questioning about meaning, purpose, and utility to our lives and our identity. In that sense, a psychotic experience is no different than any other type of experience. After all, we learn lessons from books and movies, and aren't books and movies a form of psychosis?

>>745220468
The square is there because God cares. Can't leave the square no matter how scared.

>>745219741
I got this.
Opening the 3rd eye isn't dangerous. In fact, it can be natural for some people. It manifests in different ways for different people...all via sight. There are many ways of controlling such abilities.
Christians may say it's against gods law but honestly, it isn't if you want to think of it as the door to the gift of prophacy.
Otherwise, the third eye is useful in so many other ways no matter what path one follows.
If you decide to really delve into it, it is good tip have a good grounding first. Honestly though, that's just natural in such cases.
Now what you do spiritually on the other hand, that is where potential caution comes in. Don't fuck around with certain entities of you don't know what you're doing. That is a totally different subject though. In any case, it never hurts to banish, set up a circle, and set up watch towers.

>>745220063
Thelema is like any other model of understanding; there are some essential truths hidden in trappings of superstition. The strength of Jungian psychology is in being able to penetrate through the goat skulls and silly hats to the meat of it has to teach us. After all that material is there to distract the Sleepers and keep them from recognizing the Awakened, whom they instinctively fear and hate, and will destroy if they can.

>>745220578
Isn't the translation accurate?

>>745220585

Psychosis is an electrical charge working at you , surfacing your brain because of a positive charge

>>745220550
Yes if you want her to suck you with her mouth and not the dyson

>>745218380
My backs fucked, my health keeps failing, I've worked my cunt off to improve my lot in life and keep getting fucked over by circumstance. If you've got answers for me provide them. Like is it worth the effort or am I better off OD'ing or topping myself? Serious question this isn't about emotional pain just living with chronic pain as fuckwits keep telling me it'll get better and it only gets worse.

>>745220468
A door is an object paired with a function, the former being less particular than the latter.

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>>745220705

never 100%

plus it's just not as cool if you aren't reading his original calligraphy

>>745220755
Keep going

>>745220191
>>745220269
>>745220280
You clearly don't understand what mysticism is. In the Aristotlian model, there are three ways of obtaining knowledge: empiricism, rationalism, and revelation. The application of pure empiricism is called science, the application of pure rationalism is called philosophy, and the application of pure revelation is called mysticism. Mysticism, then, involves the use of non-conscious mental processes to achieve understanding in ways not involving the senses or logical deduction. Intuition, for example, is revelatory.

Ideally we use all three, science, philosophy, and mysticism, since each has strengths which counter the weaknesses of the others. And just as a person who primarily uses science as the lens through which to see the world is a scientist, someone who sees the world primarily through the lens of intuition and unconscious understanding is a mystic.

No "mental illness" involved.

>>745218380
Can you post instructions for a luck talisman from the key? I'm asking for a friend.

>>745220326
Everything is a metaphorical. Ceci n'est pas une pipe. What we call reality is itself metaphorical. To quote Werner Heisenberg, "What we see is not reality in itself, but reality exposed to our method of questioning."

>>745218571
i got a huge earth grounding - so would it be worth a try?

>>745220690
And the problem is that the 'awakened' lack sobriety. Mysticism hasn't evolved since Amun-Ra, while technology, medicine, math and language have.

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>>745218380
I just saw the movie "mother!" and left the theater 2000% confused, can someone explain it meaning to an uneducated poorfag?!?
Tf did I just watch /b/?

>>745218380
>>745219723
>>745220063
>93
That's nothing to do with Jung, you soft-headed New Age dabblers.

will the white roller coaster in luna park finally fail

or is it just me that will fail

>>745220690
Lol. I like how you described it. Thankyou for your description.

>>745220192
Yup

>>745220365
To be honest, I don't know. I'm walking the path just like you, and I don't know -- or care -- where it ends. It's all about the journey, and about learning to trust that you're always where you're supposed to be. The truths we find along the way can rarely be passed on, as you've already discovered, because they're intensely personal and rely on immediate experience. Others will either fail to understand or will mistake the messenger for the message. As the D.T. Suzuki wrote, "To point at the moon a finger is needed, but woe to those who take the finger for the moon."

>>745220365
Are you fine now or are you still bothered?

>>745220962
This...

roleplay: the thread

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>>745220051
8/8 m8.

The Eight Circuit Model subsumes all mystical schools of thought.

ITT psychobabble bullshit by wannabe occultists who make themselves feel special by pretending they're "enlightened" unluke the unthinking "sleepers". Muh chakras bro. Muh third eye.

>>745218902
why r u talking zulu?

What commentary on extraterrestrials do you have? And how do they fit into this mysticism?

>>745220798
you have no right to enter the spritual world

>>745220550
I know you think you're being half-facaetious with your question, but I'm going to help you, friend. Take a hardcover book, any book, and hold it up on its spine. Ask your question out loud, concentrate on the question, and then allow the book to fall open to a random page and point at a random paragraph. This paragraph will answer your question directly and succinctly.

This is called bibliomancy, and what makes it work is a psychological phenomenon called apophenia, which is the tendency for the human mind to find patterns in things, even when no pattern is present. If you can't find a pattern, your brain will actually project one from your own subconscious. Because there is no context for this paragraph you're reading, your unconscious will actually draw from itself in trying to find a meaning. You will be answering your own question by putting the powerful machinery of the unconscious mind to work on it.

>>745221102
Thank you bro. I needed to be reminded about the journey. I can get hung up on point A and point B and neglect the line between. perfect timing my friend.

>>745220578
I read French and English, not German, although I plan to learn one day if, for no other reason, than to be able to read Husserl without ripping my hairs out at page-long sentences with all the verbs stacked at the end.

>>745220868
Occult work to anyone but an actual magician involves using formulas with the intent of momentarily or temporarily being one. It is like pumping more natural adrenaline or using sexual energy to better lift & workout because energy has been freed up. While the Magician doesn't need to rely on power that isn't his own. His creations are obedient to him, not the other way around.

>>745219741

>>745219741
I have a very specific and unpleasant reaction to smoking weed. I lose all sense of my body and this world, sometimes I black out. It doesn't take much (a single hit) and afterwards I have a splitting headache for days. They are some of the worst experiences of my entire life.

It's like all my nightmares over my whole life got together and decided to really show me what's lurking underneath.

I've heard people have bad experiences, but I've never met anyone who has a reaction quite like I do.

My mom's side of the family is prone to mental illness and one of my great uncle's had Schizophrenia.

>>745221138
Yeah it's a shame more people don't listen to Leary

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Can you help me find the truth

>>745221121
I'm doing ok. my experience was a little over a year ago and still processing. It is what it is. I get frustrated living among so may fundamentalist types and let them take away my joy from time to time but I can be thin skinned, I suppose I am where I am to thicken my skin.

>>745219374
You know what? It's going all right. I'm not OP but it's going all right. Thanks for asking homie

>>745219741
I've met the shadow people since I was a child in the state of Hypnagogia - what does that mean? also- my dream guide is one of them I guess..

I once had an experience of Siberien Samans during meditation - riding past me, the circeling me and staring at me and at last bowing the heads, jumping with their horses over me and riding away.. how would u interpret that?

>>745220919
No. Energy is real. It's maybe the one thing we know. A void center to the disk that is knowledge. I exist, you exist. And it has something to do with energy.

He said metaphorical energies. Either there are energies present or there are not.

>>745221164
Im sorry you feel that way. you'll see, then you'll be sorry you act this way. mockers gonna mock what they don't understand. I used to mock also.

>>745221422
>>745221422
In all honesty probably best to stay away from weed and psychedelics with that family history. Coming from someone who spent time in mental hospitals because of them...

Early this summer I found out that I have a purpose in life. I don't know what it is but it ended the hopelessness nonetheless. Lsd/psilocybin in combination(had a 6 year break from psychedelics after drug-induced psychosis in early age).

Anyhow, I literally saw the evolution in first person, and after I had realized that i'm nothing more than food for worms mother Gaia touched my body. It was a beam of life energy streaming through my body in long pulses, completely stretching the length of my body. From my toetips to the top of my head, just pure life-energy reminding me that i'm alive and that's all I have now.

It was an ancient god, it was a She, it was a great creature, not good nor evil. I won't describe her further but i know for sure other people has had same or similar encounters.

Don't know much about Carl Jung tho.

>>745220798
You're looking at the wrong end of the telescope, friend. You think you're cursed, but you have in fact been blessed. I, too, have serious health challenges, including diabetes, asthma, and going slowly blind from a very rare disease called pigment disperson syndrome. These things are not curses; far from it. The Universe is a test to destuction. The greater the hardships placed on us, the farther along we are in our studies. Those of us who play life on hard mode learn fastest and best. All the pain and torment you feel is a forging fire, burning away the parts which are unimportant.

If your life is a horror, you've been offered the opportunity for advanced studies in Being.

"There is no such thing as a problem without a gift for you in its hands. You seek problems because you need their gifts." -- Richard Bach

>>745220798
You can always light one of those glass candles (white or blue although the color isn't really that important honestly) you see In the Mexican aisles of the grocery store then simply ask the arch Angel Gabriel for healing and his guidance. It might feel funny at first but part of the faith is trusting that you are heard....because I guarantee, you will be heard. Be persistent if needed. You will be heard.
(Hint: if you can't find one of those candles, any unused candle will do. Its ok to even start asking now before the candle then get it later.)

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>>745218380
Can you give any tips on astral projection? I've been trying for a few months now and can't get past the vibrational stage. I've watched videos and read different accounts on how to do it but still lose it towards the end. Mind you, I haven't had much time to try recently because school. Does meditation earlier in the day help? Is the practice safe?

>>745218380
How can we be jungian and mystic ? Is that not to admit that psychoanalysis is definitely not a science ? If it's a philosophical theory, how can this be "mystic" ? In what sense does you understand this word, mystic ?

>>745221497
>enlightened
>thin skinned
Nah, just self-important

>>745220878
Talismans have no set recipes. They need to be created from Will and intention. The secret is that it doesn't matter what they're made from; it's the intentionality and purpose in the time and effort used for their creation which imbues them with power. Use things which have intense meaning for you, and use them with the strongest and most pure sense of discipline and purpose you can achieve.

>>745221603
That's actually more anti-purpose. Like Bhuddism

>>745221422

After my first experience I thought I was going to develop schizophrenia and I began to distrust my own senses, and in some cases disconnecting myself from what I naturally thought to be true.

I stopped trusting that when I went home it would still be there, or my roommates would know who I was but I went anyways because that's the memory I have for where to go.

I would regularly have anxiety attacks if I thought I was repeating the same thing over and over again (I got deja vu constantly and I'm pretty sure I was just "remembering" what I just looked at and struggling to tell the difference in time).

I haven't smoked in a few years and most of that stuff has stopped, and what I've been left with is an eerie sense of peace about how little I know about the world and myself.

>>745221706
Jung lost his mind and wrote about it. I guess now people want to glorify it. News to me

>>745221566
Im fine with contemplative traditions, but the shit ITT is babby-tier mystical bs for people who want to feel superior to the masses without really understanding human spirituality, instead filling that void with ritual and magic trappings.

What does 93 mean?

>>745218380
903

Hello. How can we possibly make it easy to completely deconstruct, and then rebuild?

>>745220959
It depends what you're seeking. Some want nothing more than to reach kether as quickly and efficiently as possible, using the Magician's path to power. Others are seeking more worldly strengths. And still others seem bent on revelling in the Qlippoths as hungry ghosts. It's not for me to judge. You need to decide for yourself what you're seeking.

>>745221795
Your statement is actually putting it in a better light that it deserves. It's more than this

>>745220373
Asshole. But funny

>>745221719
I would not say I am enlightened but I am walking the path. enlightenment is not a on off state but a process of degrees. I'd say I have taken the first step on a path with infinite steps.

self important, no. Just get pissed off with bigots that live around here so much racial hate. I don't think that makes me self important.

>>745221798
From 9 to 3 and from 3 to 9. Really it's because 94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103 wouldn't have been romantic enough

>>745221603
>Don't know much about Carl Jung tho
Don't worry, neither does OP. It's just a buzzword to make him look educated.

>>745221813
Start with hate and go from there

>>745221795
I think you are right on the nose about some. but they are trying to figure it out in their own way. mostly

>>745221164
OP here. Would you like to have a spirtual experience? I can teach you how to have one. There are some simply shamanic exercises which use suggestion to draw archetypal personality fragments to the surface, and will allow you to talk to the gods (and demons). Note that none of this requires any recourse to the supernatural. All of this is a form of applied psychology; Jung himself used to take long walks in the woods with a demon, with whom he discussed his model of psychology.

>>745221817
This is the first thing of value I've seen you post ITT. Even if it's void of substance

>>745221912
That's fair then

>>745221940
judge much?

>>745221940
lol

>>745221787
It reminds me the mystics who believe without any logic that we can access to the kantian noumena

>>745221798
It's a kind of shorthand for two philosophical mottos popularised by Aleister Crowley (NOT Carl Jung).

>>745222066
Yeah were FUCKING HUMAN STOP ACTING BETTER THAN EVERYONE

>>745221723
I've only read a short book about Siddhartha, but it spoke to me in a way. Maybe that is my purpose, food for worms. A little underwhelming though don't you think?

Maybe the purpose is to find the purpose. The journey is the destination kind of thing.

>>745221237
Jung wrote an entire book about "UFOs," noting that they have appeared in literature for thousands of years, from Ezekial's wheels onward. His hypothesis is that these UFOs -- almost always described at great, glowing mandalas in the sky -- are archetypal manifestations of the collective desire for spiritual unity. He noted that there was a sudden explosion in UFO sightings after the end of the Second World War and the dropping of the two atomic bombs, and we collectively expressed our horror and fear at something which had the capacity to destroy the entire human race, doing so by projecting the universal symbol of spiritual unity into the sky.

>>745222125
Which are ... ?
Good reply by the way. I totally know what you mean. You should be a teacher.

>>745222018
Which is fine, but they can get lost and never find the way when the systems they use bury the kernel of truth, if any remains, beneath so much unnecessary bullshit about energies and hungry ghosts and whatnot. Want to walk the path? Meditate on the breath every day and don't make up any mystical explanations for what's going on inside your mind when that happens.

>>745222035

Yeah. His hand on your leg.

At least Freud was attempting to be Science.

Youre all blind

>>745221678
Is scrying a thing worth trying?

>>745222136
does speaking the truth make you feel uncomfortable bro? That was not my intention to make you feel inadequate. give yourself a big hug and a pat on the back. better?

>>745222191
"Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law" and "Love is the law, love under will."

They're hard to explain unless you've read Crowley, but they're about finding your true purpose in life and following it ruthlessly.

>>745222185
Or, gee, maybe that was a time of great technological innovation and aircraft was really taking off, if you'll excuse the pun. There's a reason the stories are often based on shit like weather balloons and military aircraft.

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>>745222136
lel, ok. We're all going to die on this rock someday and we'll all be equal in the end. No need to get butt hurt.

>>745222066
When I'm in a position to judge, yes.

>>745222035
I've had one, thanks though.

>>745221411
That's a very male way of understanding. The Magician harnesses the phallus of Will to bend the world. And while the Goetic forces are potent in the world of flesh, there are higher powers -- female powers -- which do not require Will. Even the Goetia can be approached as a friend, through demonolatry, rather than compelled by force through demonology and sigil work. The way the Tao Te Ching puts it is, "Know the male, yet keep to the female. Receive the world in your arms. The Tao will never leave you and you will be like a little child."

>>745222302
ignorance breeds ignorance

>>745222117
Yeah. And I think it'll continue this way or get worse if sober & scientific technique don't gaze at the ancient information that was spread & organized during the 20th century. And not by your ordinary Joe with a PHD of course

>>745221323
This is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard. I'm all for Freudian psychology, but this is just ridiculous.

>Drop a book, then choose a paragraph, then consciously fool your brain into giving you the right answer.

Really, you could just go to one of your intelligent friends, or at least another female you know, and then tell her the situation. They will provide the same advice, if not a better solution. You can't just reach into your subconscious for answers whenever the fuck you want.

You're watching too many movies kiddo

>>745222314
Thank you.

>>745222302
Guess this is what a butthurt buddha looks like

>>745222205
you are right bro.. seriously insightful. I'm walking my path alone (but don't we all in some respect) and don't have peers to talk to except on this crazy place and in /x/ i see what you mean and it isn't harmless so much is it...

>>745221586

yeah, I don't anymore. Only did it maybe 3-4 times over about 6-7 years anyways. I kept thinking "oh, it'll get better!" ...Nope.

>>745221422
Drugs are shamanic tools. They're short-cuts, allow you to reach states of altered consciousness in a few seconds which might otherwise take hours or days of intense meditation. The problem is that unless you've developed the discipline to reach that state without the drugs, you may not be spiritually prepared for the experience. Salvia divinorum is a drug which has been used by shamans for millennia to achieve ego-death. If you want to see what it looks like when someone without the proper spiritual discipline experiences ego-death, do a search on YouTube for "salvia freakouts".

>>745222148
Well.. haha.. ultimately we are food. But even as food, we might as well have a go at it and become something greater than we started. Then with a little luck, when it poops us out there 'll be more nutrition left over for life to continue. EI: The corn in my stool

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>>745222593
Oh.. And ITT I guess I should be calling it the 'Golden' Corn

>>745220151
Still no explanation

>>745222314
Another way of saying "I'd like to be possessed by my spiritual-biology matrix please"

>>745222663
tiki wiki?
walla walla bing bang.

>>745218908
>For instance, to the Christians it's the symbol of Creation across seven days.

the christian faith holds to six (6) days of creation

it's not a common symbol in christendom at all

what you DO find in churches all round the world are crosses

they have four points

4

>>745221497
Taking some nice walks in nature and/or parks, smelling the fresh air, and touching the ground/trees with your feet and hands. Sitting and eating a picnic and trying to be present with your surroundings. Then sit and imagine being connected with roots to the earth....exchanging energies with the earth for a few minutes while taking a few deep breaths.
Doing all this helps ground you. That is good and needed. Psychologically it is also very refreshing and nice.
I know it can be hard around fundamentals so this can help out because it looks normal. Your intent is healing and relaxing. If you feel like you want to ask the universe for its assistance, that would absolutely help also though not really necessary.

If you get time alone and feel like doing a ritual, look up the LBRP ( lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram). That can also add some assistance. Everything helps.

>>745221523
It's not really for me to judge, but the Shadow People feel... wrong to me. I wouldn't encourage people to spend time thinking or talking about them, since they're drawn to such attention. Just our discussion of them right now has probably drawn them to us. That's not to say that your experience isn't different from mine, and indeed we all develop our own truths, but my dream guide is the Anima and tends to take the form of Christian Applegate (which is a little embarassing, since it means my unconscious regards her as the ideal female form, a literal goddess). Our inner geographies are very different.

>>745222035
>Jung himself used to take long walks in the woods with a demon
Except that Jung knew it wasn't a "demon", just an archetypal voice like you hear in dreams. It's something literally anyone can do, and not some world-changing mystical experience.

Stop puffing yourself up as some kind of Level 50 wizard, ffs. I doubt you've even read Jung, and you're certainly not fucking Gandalf.

>>745222758
rekt and kekd

>>745222035
I would, do tell. Also, how to protect myself from entities, psychic attacks etc

>>745221603
Might want to look into Philip K. Dick's experience with the pink light. It sounds remarkably similar.

>>745218380
pleas give ur insights to
>>745221523
was always wondering what it ment.. are them Samans my spirit guides or just a random encounter with passing spirits?

>>745222593
If i didnt have that experience i would probably still be sitting around not doing shit. It encouraged me to do something more with my life, before time is out and I become dirt.

And so I did, life took a turn and my future is only looking brighter.

But really though it's all about the self, and how much you want to achieve something with the only life you're given.

>>745222869
>I sit and daydream and call it meditation

>>745222837
blade runner

>>745222409
I'm french, and we have an author here, Malraux, who said "the 21st century will be mystic or will be not". I'm fearing that he was right

>>745222921
Lin Twaon Wieztle meditated deep and long and came to wonder if he had only dreamed that he had meditated and had in fact been dreaming but it didn't really matter what his thoughts were, as he recalled that he was a butterfly and they're not important

>>745221678
Scientists are now able to consistently induce out-of-body experiences in the lab, and it turns out that it's remarkably easy to do. Put VR goggles on and feed them video from a camera located over the person's shoulder. Poof, instant astral projection.

See, the thing is, we can put our point of view anywhere we want. The representational world we exist in a symbolic image created in our minds from a combination of our sense perceptions, our expectations, and our memories. The fact that we put out point of view inside our heads is actually just a cultural prejudice. The Egyptians, for example, placed their point of view in their chests.

The advantage of placing your point of view close to your primary sense organs is that the image you get has the most accurate possible data. Your brain is very good at guessing what's likely to be somewhere based on patterns, so you don't notice all the bits (like your blind spot) that the brain paints over. But as you move your point of view farther and farther from your sense organs, you have less and less accurate information, and your brain has to manufacture more and more data based on guesses. Eventually, if you put your point of view far enough away, all you get is psychedelic dream imagery because your brain has so little information to work with.

>>745221706
I described what mysticism is (and isn't) here: >>745220868

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>>745223083
>Scientists are now able to consistently induce out-of-body experiences in the lab

Cite.

Your.

Sauces.

>>745223159
I bet you he wont

>>745223061
isn't that Zhuangzi? didn't know the unimportant part

>>745221795
You clearly haven't actually been reading anything I've written. Nothing I've written or described requires anything supernatural. It's all a form of applied psychology. In fact, I consider the complexity and depth of the unconscious far more amazing than any conceivable supernatural phenomena. But then, we both know this is really about making yourself feel superior by shit-talking someone else, and has nothing to do with anything I may or may not believe.

>>745222399
The formulas I mentioned make the subject, practitioner - what have you, ill. Since we aren't magicians we have to give a little to get something, often giving up more of what we do have to get less of what we don't. It's for this reason that the acting magician in his most active state stands amidst an area of energies. If he's good at it, they're specific, but always in the wrong amounts, making it not a science. My response was to your response about illness. The 'acting magician' poisons himself. The reversed fool confuses the side effects to be of good will; he'll probably go on to act on it later, instead of giving it up.

what the fuck even is this thread

What is the evidence for these people's beliefs?

Not trying to be malicious, just genuinely curious

>>745223159
Dude, scientists!

What's really in Antarctica ?

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>>745218380

pictured:You

>>745221813
Unlearn. Empty your vessel. Stop expecting and just be. Learn how to let go and be still. The patterns which underly reality are so large and so quiet that they are easily obscured by any kind of noise or drive or commotion. Read the chapter of the Tao Te Ching about emptiness and its value. Once you stop fearing boredom, you can achieve the kind of emptiness necessary for understanding.

>>745220868
All people make magic, but concept of magic because of magic is kinda evilish

There is life after death?

>>745222921
>I greentext and pretend I know better

>>745223128
The problem is that there is no possibility to know what you understand by revelation. Science and philosophy have both objective conditions of verification and refutation, by facts or logic. Revelation is something subjective in the deepest sense : it's not just how to know what is experiencing the other when he's experiencing something like a color. I don't know what is the experience of revelation, and nothing will permit me to know what do you understand by that.

>>745223274
Ain't about you little boy

>>745223487
No didn't I already tell you? After death you're food for worms.

>>745218380
How do I finally bring her power to the forefront and ascend?
Is it really as simple as relinquishing control, or is it more complicated to force her to physically manifest?
And why do almost 100% of her vessels die shortly after meeting her, serving as only food? What makes her decide you're a worthy vessel enough to be used, and why was I picked over the hundreds of others in my bloodline since the binding?
Of course if you don't know you don't know. Thank you in advance for your response, flesh meat.

>>745222314
As you know, not just read but also research on Crowley's words. He wrote alot of "metaphores" so to speak for several reasons.
One example is when he speaks about sacrificing children. He doesn't literally mean sacrificing but instead intended masturbating. Historically when he wrote this, it was illegal to write about sexual acts and such yet it was perfectly ok to talk about violence and killing. Thus.....sacrificing children.

>>745222905
Yeah I hear ya on that. I've had my own experiences of a similar nature, where I was aligned and made whole. But every morning my cat wakes up rejuvenated and full of life, and hours later she's back to her nervous, frantic self. The blue, or maybe green.. yellow? Idk. But red takes over

Right but are we talking about the self at rest, at play or at work. Man commonly confuses his play with his work and so he does nothing out of the ordinary.

>>745223494
Not following around distraction, imaginings, and discursive thoughts is the very basis of meditation, these are THE pitfalls of the practice

>>745218771
From startrek

>>745218380
Give me one book to read that covers most basics that everyone agree on.

>>745223487
Only if you win

>>745218380

How do I summon a succubus?

>>745222805
I've made it repeatedly clear in this thread that as a Jungian, I consider all of this to be a form of applied psychology with nothing supernatural required. I'm curious why you seem so angry and obsessed with shit-talking about me using straw-men I've never even mentioned, much less professed. I don't know you, and you don't know me, so your seething rage an animosity clearly comes from something bubbling below the surface in you. I don't mind. It doesn't bother me at all. I just find it odd that you'd spend so much effort trying to jab a knife into me for so little reward.