So, the mighty U S and A is either burning, under water or being blown apart right now.
9/11 is today.
Since that eventful day, America has
>Totally fucked up the stability in the Middle East in aims for resource control and corporate profit
>Killed millions of innocent civillians through consinuously developing more devastating and desensitising weapons.
>Took a shit on our global economy and crashed the entire thing
>Continues to pursue aggressive middle eastern foreign policy, creating largest refugee crisis in history
>Continues to push for more lax international food standards, and killing their own people with carcinogenic food additives
>Oligarchic expansion increasing
>Offers no medical or maternity benefits for their own people
>Americans literally starving or living in African tier towns with no water
>Taking several steps back to fall way behind international climate control standards
And now, elect fucking Donald Trump as the president of the United fucking States.
Forgive me for being superstitious, but it seems your piece of shit empire is crumbling. The Muslim families that you radicalised by carpet bombing their children are laughing at you now. Karma?
I understand you have been raised to salute the flag since elementary school, but patriotism aside for a second, can you argue that the history you have and continue to write will be looked back on with disgust in decades to come?
>>744905787
What does 9/11 have to do with USA falling apart right now lol
>>744906816
all i'm saying is it's pretty strange how around this time the entire country is getting ass fucked.
Karma is a bitch. Too bad it's the population that has to pay the price
>>744905787
>t. Mehmet Osmanoglu
Don't be mad, the U.S. has been the greatest force for good in global history
>>744906989
>greatest force for good
explain, i believe it to be quite the opposite.
>>744907170
A majority of countries now have democracies, at least some freedom, and global living standards have shot up dramatically in the last century, the "American Century." Now, I don't claim that the world is perfect, far from it. But I'd much rather live in an American world than, say, a Chinese-run one.
>>744907309
That is because you are afraid of what you don't know.
>Being this fucking stupid
Your mentality is the reason your country has fucked up so many regions. No insight, just wow democracy works so great for us, let's force everyone else to have it too!
Middle Eastern and African psyches are not compatible with western democracies, especially when introduced overnight. It is thousands of years of culture being asked to be reverted overnight. You are not doing what's best, you are fucking stupid.
Besides, you didn't invent democracy you fucking idiot.
Furthermore, your country has one of the least democratic governments in the western world. Your people vote on the lesser of two evils, funded by corporations. And statistically the things that are voted as having highest public priorities such as health care and education are the least funded.
>>744908523
>Middle Eastern and African psyches are not compatible with western democracies, especially when introduced overnight
Das rayciss mane
>>744908523
>he wrote on the computer invented by Americans, on the website created by an American, in a language popularized by America and their parent country
Stay mad at the greatest nation for giving you the tools to destroy yourself
>>744905787
>can you argue that the history you have and continue to write will be looked back on with disgust in decades to come?
It depends if we can keep power, then we shall whitewash all the negative things we do, like normal.
>>744908781
You are brainwashed patriotism personified.
>Computer invented by Americans
Charles Babbage of London designed the first mechanical computer, which he called the "Difference Engine" — a machine that could solve polynomial equations without using multiplication or division. He began developing the machine in 1822
>Website created by an American
Fair enough moot was born an American, but created it as a Japanese, anime inspired image board.
>Language popularized by America
English =/ American
The United Kingdom popularized English you fucking moron.
>Greatest nation
If you measure greatness in military spending, highest homelessness and depression rates per capita, obesity rates and most corporately cucked population, sure.
>>744909862
>this pure butthurt
Why are you so mad? Is it our massive economy? Our cultural dominance? Show us on the doll where America touched you.
>>744908781
That picture, and similar pictures are great. They portray the American Dream, happiness, health, wealth and prosperity.
This is 1960's America, the greatest nation in the world. We need to stop clinging onto shit like this and actually become a prosperous country again.
>>744910074
>We need to stop clinging onto shit like this and actually become a prosperous country again.
But anon, we're still the wealthiest nation in the world. It's our culture that has declined.
>>744909990
>openly discussing flaws in a nation that impacts the world
>gets ridiculed for it
Do you understand how cucked you sound right now? What are you defending? Using intimidation and satire to downplay intelligent discussion is just a more complex way of ensuring sensitive issues are not communicated in society. Communists and fascists do this through law and force, American culture has been designed to do this by default, it's really quite clever.
>>744910192
>wealthiest
How do you measure wealth? Inequality is rapidly increasing, money is pooring into the top 1% and the working class is desperately falling. Homelessness and starvation are extremely high, if not the highest in the western world.
Our economy is based on debt. We have no health care benefits and we have to pay interest on our student loans if we ever want to get a job.
Please tell me you are not this stupid. We are not prosperous, our elite are.
>>744910296
>openly cherrypicking the origins of the computer because I'm mad that America invented it
ftfy
>>744910442
We've got the largest economy in the world, and even now our living standards beat out everyone save Western Europe and Japan, and both of those regions can get away with it because they don't need to pay for defense with us protecting them
>>744910469
wrong post anon
>>744910563
not an argument
>>744910469
>cherrypicking
No, this is an absolute fact, the first computer was created by an English man. That's not cherrypicking. Choosing the first commercially available product and claiming that as the initial invention is cherrypicking.
>>744910657
>Romans put wheels on carts so really you could say they invented cars
>>744910541
You are literally just repeating bullshit that you've heard before and not actually understanding reality. You are the definition of brainwashed and cucked. You are not the wealthiest nation per capita, you are not the healthiest, you are not the happiest. Here are some stats for you 1/3
>>744910974
>>744910998
>>744910541
3/3
need more? you sure sound incabable of doing your own research or forming your own, educated opinion. Hope I helped you out.
>>744910974
>>744910998
>>744911072
>this level of moving the goalposts
Why are you so obsessed with putting one over Uncle Sam? They've only ever improved your life.
>>744910766
A person from your country improved existing technology and made it commercially available. Congratulations.
Why are you pushing this so hard? It doesn't change anything to do with this conversation.
>being this desperate to justify the superioirty of your country.
No achievements of your own? Looking for a way to feel a sense of achievement? I know! Base your worth on the achievements of people born on the same piece of land as you!
>>744911253
>Why are you pushing this so hard
But anon, I'm only pointing out an objective truth. It's on you for taking this to such ludicrous extremes
>>744911143
>moving the goalposts
No, you resited a commonly misperceived version of reality, and I proved you wrong using evidence.
>putting one over
It's not a competition. It's openly discussing faults. You can't do it can you?
>>744911297
>objective truth
Top fucking kek. Amerifats literally can't even distinguish between subjective and objective truths.
>>744911400
You seem rather determined to point out one nation's faults in particular. Is there a reason for that?
>>744911483
>he doesn't know
>>744908845
We're deep into the information age, incoming data age, this doesn't work anymore anon.
>>744908523
>>744909862
>>744910296
>>744910442
>>744910657
>>744910974
>>744910998
>>744911072
>>744911253
>>744911400
>>744911483
I'm off to go take a nap. Congrats on working so hard to educate an obvious troll, Europoors
>>744911639
>this doesn't work anymore anon.
Once you throw in some unneutral net, it will work wonders.
>>744911503
>You seem rather determined to point out one nation's faults in particular. Is there a reason for that?
That was OP's thread so sure, that is what we're talking about. Why are you trying to derail, something to hide? Insecurities?
>>744905787
>U S and A
>United States and America
>>744911697
>europoors
guess again kike
>>744911739
>That was OP's thread so sure, that is what we're talking about. Why are you trying to derail, something to hide? Insecurities?
>2017
>not seeing Borat
>>744911826
>Derail
>9/11
>Implying planes run on rails
>>744905787
Yes, our foreign policy is full blown AIDS, Donald Trump is a fucking idiot, and we should have elected Bernie. I'm tired of politics on here though tbh. Our country is full of retards and the retards won. It doesn't consume my life.
>>744911947
>implying rails aren't steel beams
>>744911723
>he thinks he can banter an obvious troll
Newfag
OP, why do you even care about the US? You could like a butt hurt faggot. Go focus on your own country.
>>744912074
>Implying planes melt derailed steel rails
>>744905787
>The Muslim families that you radicalised by carpet bombing
They've been doing this for 400+ years. Read up on the Barbary pirates. We dindu nuffin and they've always needed to be killed.
>>744905787
More than half of americans didn't vote for Trump. Our citizens don't support these policies. Stop taking your shit out on a bunch of people who are either brainwashed or have zero control over their lives.
You jelly eurofaggot?
>>744912328
>implying jet fuel can derail threads
>>744905787
Do you bring your own bags to the grocer? Do you buy bottled water? Does your wife have a diamond engagement ring?
Fuck you. You're no better than the rest of us.
>>744912376
1400 years*
You join the military, you think you get to pick where they send you? You think your politics enter into being sent to Iraq?
All they wanted to do was defend our country and spread democracy to people who live under tyranny.
Does that make us a monster?
>>744912798
You can't teach what you don't know. You can't turn your back on a mountain of ignorance without renouncing the people who brought you into this world, who gave you life, who took care of you, sheltered and fed you.
You think change happens overnight? You think somebody working 12 hour shifts has time to watch dateline or listen to NPR?
THIS is why the Democrats are getting their shit pushed in, because they have completely lost touch with the people they claim to represent.
FFS, its confusing enough for well educated people to figure out whats going on in the world. People who have time and leisure and the ability to casually reflect on whats happening in the world probably look at the world a bit more objectively, don't you think?
And its not like the left doesn't have its own unique brand of shrill bias. Are you surprised that someone got tired of your shrieking and decided to knock you flat on your ass?
Why don't you let the people who care enough to actually DO something about the state of the world handle things for a change?
>>744913276
Maybe they are wrong.
Maybe they are right.
What matters is they cared enough to show up and fight.
You push any man into a corner, and he will fight. You just have to push the right button, find the right trigger.
>>744913276
>>744913011
>>744912798
Get your redditspacing faggotry out of here. It's a 9/11 thread.
Debate isn't going to carry us through. Good intentions are not going to make the world a better place.
To win, you have to care.
>>744913407
Nobody gives a shit about 9/11
>>744913550
No one gives a shit on your perspective of democrats or republicans.