Climate change deniers (florida and texas) getting fucked by

>>744733838
>hurr durr weather that's existed on & off since before life existed on Earth is proof of muh climate change

>>744733838
haarp

>>744733838
Ok genius, the ice age, explain what caused it

>>744733838

>cow farts and lawnmowers cause hurricanes

I'm pretty sure I know who's anti-science here.

>>744733989
jews

>>744733925
what is a strawman

>>744733838
>hurricane therefore climate change
Fuck off and die. I'm really getting sick of you despicable fucks using these tragic events to push your goddamn narrative. You should have died in their place.

>>744733989
climate

>>744734293
Here we go, the libtard crying "Strawman! Strawman!"

Yes, the climate is changing. No, it is not solely, nor even primarily, caused by human influence. No, it will not have devastating effects. No, the government has no method to reverse this, stop acting like the government can solve all problems if you just throw enough money at it.

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We actually do not know enough to confirm that humans create an effect strong enough to cause such drastic changes. The theories that the sun is reaching the end of a solar hyper-activity cycle or the process of the earth's poles switching are actually more plausible than human's affecting the ecosphere at this scale

Anyone who denies dirty energy causes climate change is straight retarded. An hero.

The science is simple.

Global temperature rises. The rise in temperature causes more vapour in the air.
Over the water, there are more storms that get supercharged, over land it causes fires since everything gets died out.

basic high school science. But American education is shit hence there is so much denial.

Its ok, keep believing that its a hoax. Its coming for you.

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>>744734501
so the effect from human activity has grown so strong that it even affects time and space, causing ice ages in the past?

>>744733838
Unless you're trying to imply hurricanes are man-made I don't get your point. This isn't exactly new

>>744734959
Can I get a citation on that one?

Soot in glass is hotter because the particles are black.
So is the sky now.


The end.

>>744733838
>Climate change deniers (florida and texas) getting fucked by climate. Ya. About right.

You should learn the difference between climate and weather.

>>744733925
FPBP

OP BTFO

>>744733838
I like how you amerifags forget about the island of St. Martin and only care about florida. It's still a heavy hurricane. The power of Irma has already decreased though

>>744735215
that's just stupid.

how educated are you?

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>>744733838
I don't think it is denial of climate change, but the root cause. I think it is just the cycle of the planet, and humans like you are upset because you still think you can predict it.

>>744735435
do tell. damn ass.

>>744735215
hurricanes aren't man-made but their strength is increased by man-made climate change. just one degree difference in water temperature makes category 3 hurricane into category 5

>>744735401
The same gasses offed by volcanos caused a heat up of the entire planet.

So what could be happening that seems totally supported by science?

>>744734991

I know liberals want it to be so simple, but it's not. Climate change happens slowly over long periods of time. The only people who will notice it are those who study climate data. We aren't going to wake up to find the oceans have risen 10 feet and are now boiling. You also can't point out that there are more storms this year than last year as some kind of evidence of whatever your point is. Weather year to year is subject to so many variables that it's not really predictable. What is predictable are overall climate trends over long spans of time.

tldr: you look like a fucking retard if you point to a storm as your "see, told ya so".

>>744735361
cant remember the original article but you can check the data yourself
www spaceweatherlive com/en/solar-activity/solar-cycle
also look up Pole shift hypothesis on wiki for example but use the cited documents not the article itself if you distrust wiki

>>744735642
Good try. I wonder how much pollution especially in terms of greenhouse gasses have we put in the atmosphere just during the industrial revolution?

>>744735653

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBdxDFpDp_k

>>744735595
>I don't know what I'm talking about but I sure can sound angry about it

global warming is a scam

average temperatures have barely risen (less than a degree in over a century), and people that claim to know why are full of shit

>>744735693
The ice at the North Pole is falling apart.

It's covered in ash from the burning of fossil fules. The micro fine particles settled there, on the ice.
The black color makes them hotter so they melt and fill the oceans higher.

Right now.

>>744735811
>Good try. I wonder how much pollution especially in terms of greenhouse gasses have we put in the atmosphere just during the industrial revolution?

Drop in the bucket in the grand scheme of things. We are just a thin layer of slime infested an 8,000 mile wide rock in space. We aren't in control in any meaningful way here. We are just along for the ride. Any damage we do is ultimately insignificant and entirely temporary. The climate is changing with or without our input.

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>>744735684
what makes you think the temperature changes are solely man made? The only evidence we have are the temperature reading for about a 2-3decades and the data we get from the weather observation stations at the poles are inconsistent at best (all the research that shows a degree or two per year increase has reconstructed and calculated the data based on fragmented data and some algorithms)

>>744736007
Well it's closer to 8 degrees.

>>744736044
I like how in your mind everyone on the planet is a fucking half ass.

>>744736046
>Well it's closer to 8 degrees.

Put a decimal before the 8 and you are a little bit closer to reality.

>>744736046
what do you mean?

>>744736118
>>744736127
Oh my mistake. It says projected. Nvm

>>744735811
virtually none compared to what we did in the 60s alone. population was almost 8x since industrial rev, and more industrial businesses per capita as well.

it's nice to say that we were more polluting then, but fact is we figured out even more devastating compounds to pollute the air with than just coal burning.

>>744735693
dumb ass. Thats the point. its is supposed to be slowly over long periods of time. that is not what is happening. You fucktard just dont
have your eye on the ball.

your statement has a pretense of intelligence that will only serve to boost your self-esteem

why wouldn't you accommodate for climate change? We get a better green economy and a cleaner planet. Your denial is just moronic. what does your way get? oh right, it doesn't matter cuz your guys just dont give a fuck.

lazy bastards

>>744736186
heh

poe's law

>>744734966
You are making the allegation. The burden of proof is on you, faggot.

>>744736194
>its is supposed to be slowly over long periods of time. that is not what is happening.

Yes, that is what's happening. You are looking at current weather and you think it is indicative of some kind of drastic climate change, when that is not a valid indicator.

>>744736241
https://www.nrdc.org/stories/are-effects-global-warming-really-bad

Just skimmed it. I'm not lying. Even if the ultra liberals are exaggerating it all, it is happening.
If nothing else, I trust NASA more than anything. They're impartial in this whole thing.
https://climate.nasa.gov/effects/

>>744734991
But you started with "global temperature rises." You haven't proven that much. Provide me evidence that the earth is warming, and that this change is caused by humans.

>>744736194
>Your denial is just moronic. what does your way get? oh right, it doesn't matter cuz your guys just dont give a fuck.

What have you done exactly? Have you stopped driving cars? Do you not use electricity anymore? You have likely not changed your lifestyle at all since taking on climate change as your religion. This all comes down to you and people like you just wanting to see your political team score a point, so you cheer when a hurricane hits because you think it validates your opinions. You're trash.

>>744736295
B-but this patch of snow melted in a cold place!

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>>744733838

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Its climate and its changed
must be Climate-change!

>>744736425
>>744736012
https://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/environment/arctic_soot.html

Same for the air.

>>744736336
Well if you say so then it must be true. What the fuck do you do for a living again? You are right. let's fuck the experts and do nothing to make the world a better place. Well done shit head.

>>744735595
Not an argument.

>>744735684
You're a fucking dumbass. Prove that a degree difference will cause such change. None of you are providing anything, this whole thing is based on unproven allegations.
What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

>>744736044
we have very accurate temperature readings since mid-19th century where you can clearly see the increase. we know that it's at least mostly, if not only, man-made because solar activity is decreasing since the 1960s but temperature continues to rise, following co2 increase which is definitely man-made, all the additional co2 has very little carbon-14 proving that it's from fossil fuels

>>744733838
What people don't seem to get is that humans are insignificant as fuck and the lifespan of a human, let's say a century, means absolutely nothing on a global scale. We're seeing changes in the climate that are relatively big when put into scale on a human life, but when you look at the Earth as a whole it doesn't make a fucking difference. The climate has always fluctuated and sometimes it can make big or small dips over the course of thousands of years.

tl;dr stop thinking we matter because you're all a bunch of worthless assholes who can't make a difference even if you try

>>744736604
>Way too scientific for /pol/

>>744736578
I'll ask you again, how educated are you? I don't think you are smart enough to make an argument.

>>744733838
It's hurricane season you fucking moron

>>744736012
Check out the South Pole. It's growing. The polar ice sheets are gaining several thousand tons per year. Source: NASA.

>>744736653
>I'm insignificant.
>We're all insignificant.
>No science needed.

>>744736671
well said dip shit. so fucking ignorant. go back to fapping and let the big boys talk.

>>744736397
we won't see a 3 degree fahreneit change in our lifetime, much less an 8 degree one

>>744736729
I've got a degree that tells me you're a worthless piece of shit, scientifically proven as fact

>>744736689
Is it keeping pace? I fucking doubt it.

TEXAS AND FLORIDA ARE WELFARE QUEENS BUT RUN AROUND COMPLAINING ABOUT BIG GOVERNMENT UNTIL THEY GET ASS FUCKED.

>>744736666
Irrelevant. One's education does not dictate the validity of their arguments. This is an appeal to authority.

>>744736604
See
>>744736653

Who's to say temps haven't been steadily rising for the last Millennia? 200 years means nothing

>>744736750
You dolts were freakin out after Katrina too, stop being fucking ()'s and deal with weather that fucking happens yearly

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>>744736012
Oh you've been to the North Pole eh?

Sauce?

Waiting

>>744736604
Have you heard of "the pause"?

>>744736847
delete this

>>744736830
More or less, it actually is. The melting/growing seems mainly to do with tectonic activity.

>>744736854
you are talking about science. Not rating your fucking sisters vagina. How fucking educated are you?

>>744736858
because they are not steadily rising but the rise is accelerating

>>744736397
>NASA
>impartial

You're a special kind of stupid, eh?

>>744736990
Currently in college. I don't need a degree to read a study, I don't need a degree to form an opinion. If you are attempting to say otherwise, you are truly an idiot.

>>744736750
Hurrr duurrrrr Omg guuuuysss a couple hurricanes rolled through during hurricane season and there is flooding on the coast huurrr duurrr its the government and the big climate change conspiracy huuurrr duuurrr, fuck off "big boy".

>>744737088
that's not how you win hearts and minds

just tell him why you think he's wrong

>>744736954
Delete deez nuts faggot

>>744734293
Nigger, do you have no idea what a strawman is? Are you really that fucking stupid?

Hurricane Katrina makes Irma look like a little bitch. These little storms are nothing. Get back to me when several Cat 5's wipe the conservative part of the US off the Earth.

>>744737053
And who is to say they don't accelerate and decelerate on constant cycles since the beginning of the fucking planet? There are so many fucking variables here and you want to cherrypick the ones that make it seem like you're right

>>744733838
All hurricanes are overblown by liberal media in the name of global warming. It won't be that bad

>>744736604
I'm going to ask again. Have you heard of "the pause"?

>>744737243
Irma was stronger than Katrina, nigger. It just hit places like Cuba that have better infrastructure than that third world shithole called New Orleans

>>744737172
you haven't even graduated yet dip shit. Again its science, not your fucking opinion.

That what i thought. now fuck off and let the smart people talk.

>>744733838
Archeology has suggested that there were much much worse disasters long before humans. *drops mic*

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>>744733989
Google Milankovich cycles dumb ass

>>744737327
the earth will be just fine dip shit. Those disasters caused mass extinctions. take that mic and shove it up your ass for being so fucking stupid.

>>744737246
because we have pretty accurate records of co2 levels for the last several hundereds of thousands of years from ice sheets on Antarctica and we know that the current increase is not normal

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>>744737185
NASA is a government funded institution.

As such, they cater to the people paying for them to play spaceman.
NASA and its whole narrative on climate change was swayed after Obama said they would be scaling back funding of NASA over the next 40 years.
Look it up faggots

>>744736604
go read the research and look at the weather data they provide.... all of them say that its very hard to get data from south pole for example due to harsh conditions resulting in readings that dont come at a regular interval. There have been cases where no weather data has been recived for months. All of the papers use reconstructed data.

God hates conservatives.
That is all.

>>744737441
>As such, they cater to the people paying for them to play spaceman.
Stop projecting, neoliberal.

>>744734959
97% of world scientists disagree with that statement. You don't know what you're talking about.

However, frequency and intensity of hurricanes has not necessarily been linked to anthropogenic climate change.

>>744733838
Obviously the dinosaurs didn't set enough of themselves on fire to about the ice age.

>>744737542
Yeah and 97% of the people who post in /b/ are lying 12 year old faggots

>>744737317
Precisely my point. You've been trying to formulate an appeal to authority, as has been quite fucking obvious since you asked "how edjumakated is you?" I can read a study, I can look at facts, I can make connections, I can form an opinion. No fucking degree is required for that. Just because someone doesn't hold an authority position doesn't make their opinion less valid. In fact, you've not even brought up your own level of education. I don't ask you to do so. Because that diploma means nothing to me. What matters are the arguments you provide and the positions you hold.
Cunt.

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>>744737518
Lmfao, never in my life has anyone even ASSUMED I'm liberal.

I chuckled, well done faggot

North Korea and/or ISIS created these hurricanes.

>>744737542
Appeal to popularity. Fuck off with this shit and make a valid argument already.

>>744737591
a bunch of people are making this ice age argument.
Its a stupid argument.

care to unpack this stupidity? wtf? Fucking low IQ people will kill us all.

>>744737476
>partly true

In-situ Antarctic meteorological data is relatively scarce because it's fucking expensive and hard to maintain weather stations down there. The automated weather station (AWS) project by university of winsonsin collates data from about 30 stations. Most polar researchers use NCEP/NCAR reanalysis meterologicsl data which combines other sources.

>>744734959
Look at Shanghai.
People die every year from smog.

Human industry makes no difference, huh? Nice.
>"we do not know enough to confirm" ...
HAHAHA

>>744737315
Cum to Tama Bay

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>>744737542
oh nice.... some statistics you pulled out of your backside. 97%? if youre going to throw statistics towards me, why dont you back it up with some data.... define what is a scientist in your mind's eye and then prove to me that 97% of ALL the scientist disagree with that statement

>>744737647
You clearly can't do any of those things, anon.

is it safe for the climate to detonate nuclear weapons underground? it could trigger an earthquake, volcanic eruption, and a tsunami.

>>744737747
Its appealing to scientific concensus, very different thing.

>>744737476
why do you need temperatures from south pole? oceans cover two thirds of earth surface, take about 90 % of all the heat and have very stable temperatures. and also very similar temperature increase at the same time all over the globe

>>744737823
Climate change and smog are two different things.

>>744737591
dinosaurs didn't die out because of ice age

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

How much evidence do you need fuck tards?

>>744737915
they should nuke irma for science

>>744737949
I also recall that not too long ago the "scientific consensus" was that the earth was flat, and that the sun revolved around it.

>>744738056
do you have a point?

>>744738033
Yeah. Our military should fight against these hurricanes. Don't we have lasers for that?

Average temps over America have been getting cooler since records started. Sure there are days/weeks/months even years with "hottest on record" blahblahblah but the trend, since records started, is cooler. Look at the raw data. not easy to find, but not that hard if you want it.

There are volcanoes under the ice. Volcanoes and earthquakes release gases into the atmosphere, so does melting ice.

Cosmic rays seed clouds in the atmosphere. A quiet Sun, which we have right now, means more cosmic rays.

Even if human pollution is warming the planet there is more to make it cooler. Like the coming ice age, which, if you look at the last 400,000 years seem unavoidable. Good to not pollute, I mean, you wouldn't poison your mom would you? Probably a bad analogy for 4chan.
Fact is, it can warm now, but it won't for long, like the medieval warm period. Or, it could cool now, like the little ice age, facts are, pollution is bad, global cooling is inevitable

>>744737841
Here you can read it yourself.

http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/11/4/048002

97% of peer reviewed papers from reputable publications agree that human activity is capable of affecting the Earth's climate.

I have to say, as an engineer specialized in meteorology, this denial is completely nuts.

Yes climate has always shifted to an extent, but such fast changes in such a short time is something never seen before. And yes we have enough data to create models of past temperatures.

What is amazing is that one of the main voices of climate change denial is an agency that specializes in counter propaganda and notably worked on the tobacco controversy, fighting any legislation even though science has demonstrated its negative effects for more than 50 years.

And you untermensch believe it all instead of nasa reports.

Despicable.

>>744737858
Howso? Please do enlighten me.

>>744736577
>What the fuck do you do for a living again?

I assume you must be a climatologist if you are questioning what I do as if it matters. One does not need to hold a degree and work in a field in order to have knowledge about something you stupid fucking faggot.

>>744737841

The 97 percent claim is a deliberate misrepresentation designed to intimidate the public—and numerous scientists whose papers were classified by Cook protested:
“Cook survey included 10 of my 122 eligible papers. 5/10 were rated incorrectly. 4/5 were rated as endorse rather than neutral.”
—Dr. Richard Tol
“That is not an accurate representation of my paper . . .”
—Dr. Craig Idso
“Nope . . . it is not an accurate representation.”
—Dr. Nir Shaviv
“Cook et al. (2013) is based on a strawman argument . . .”
—Dr. Nicola Scafetta
Think about how many times you hear that 97 percent or some similar figure thrown around. It’s based on crude manipulation propagated by people whose ideological agenda it serves. It is a license to intimidate.
It’s time to revoke that license.

#Irmaravagemyass

4chan: bots talking to bots, making the same dumb ass posts day after day

>>744733838
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRnWmSMEmpM

>>744738188
you are just giving your opinions. You're a fucking bitch.

>>744738126
97% of scientists disagreeing with someone doesn't mean thy are incorrect.

>>744738056
The scientific world of the Middle Ages is somewhat different to that of today.

>>744737966
Now explain to me, you very smart climate change denier, the following scenario:

>oil is contained underground for thousands of years
> incalculable source of CO2, if burned
>it would basically remain there forever
>in comes human society
>harvests pretty much every reservoire of oil worldwide
>millions of tons of CO2 are produced
>the oceans become acidic in a short time
>nothing of this correlates with any natural phenomenon
>happens in a fraction of time, unmet by huge climate changes like ice age etc.

and you dare say the CO2 we produce makes no difference on a large scale?
What you lack is common sense.

What kind of brainwashing has blinded you?

Anyone who posted 97% bullshit is a fucking dipshit who doesn't know how to research or is to lazy and stupid to do so...

>>744738357
what does it mean then? Does it mean you are correct?

>>744738182
Thanks Reddit

>>744738027
Your very own president is greedy and wreckless enough to stop fundings and order NASA to stop bringing that to light.

>>744738056
you mean like 2,500 years ago? because at that time pythagoras proved that the earth was round and erastothenes even figured out how large it was

>>744738182
Appeal to authority

We do not have sufficient unbiased data.

Irrelevant.

No we don't.

NEXT.

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>>744738166
i did not argue that it doesnt affect climate. But the definition of the degree of the impact it has is whats in question.
A single solar flare can have a greater effect on earth's biosphere than a decade of human activity depending on many variables. Earth's orbital change around the sun shifting by a single degree has more impact than a decade of human activity. For now we know too little to ascertain that humans are the main cause of these changes.

>>744738301
Bitch status irrelevant.

>>744738488
not my president.

>>744738577
how would you know? did you daddy tell you?

>>744738637
so are you.

>>744738388
Nigger, I don't give a fuck if it is or is not.
Fuck you for trying to get me to pay for stupid alternative energy bullshit and fucking tax subsidies for such companies...
Who the fuck honestly cares if the average temperature on earth rises by 10 degrees in the next fifty years?
Do you really think that as the oceans rise people are just going to sit on the beach as the water climbs .00002 inches a year until they drowned?
WE ARE FUCKING MASTERS OF DESTROYING MOTHER EARTHS BULLSHIT SO WE CAN BE HAPPY.

Fuck this planet and all the dumb fucks on it.

>>744738252
Hilariously, your source for that narrative isn't a peer reviewed paper, it's not from within the confines of established scientific discourse at all. It's from Alex Epstein, who works in the oil industry author ofThe Moral Case for Fossil Fuel.

You're doing science wrong.

>>744738477
No, it means nothing. The fact that 97% of scientists disagree with a point doesn't impact that point in any way. The point is to stand or fall on its own merits, not the merits of people's views on that point.

>>744737915
one or two is safe. there is the possibility of "nuclear winter" but you would need hundereds or thousands of nukes very close to ground for that

>>744738612
The greatest control on quartenary climate change has been Milancovich cycles which indeed are affected by orbital dynamics. The problem is, the current war.ing is not consistent with their patterns and they are very well constrained.

>>744738033
it won't do more than spread highly radioactive isotopes over huge area. category 5 hurricanes release energy equivalent to a nuke every few minutes

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>>744738747
I'm sorry but, if you only look at one source of information you're only inclined to believe one narrative. No?

>>744738886
how can it be known what would happen for sure? the only way to be sure is to drop a nuke right in the browneye

>>744738756
what do you know about merit? Stop making statements you can't even dream of backing up. I feel like i am losing brain cells just talking to a fucking idiot like you

>>744738612
So, you are a fatalistic cunt, right?

>>744738733
same to you.
You don't get it, do you. The well of italies largest river has gone dry this summer. They have named the heat wave in italy "Luzifer". Things like this are going to happen worldwide and occurances rise exponentially.

With your attitude, I doubt that you can plan two weeks ahead in your own life. You honestly sound dumb as fuck.

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>>744738612
cont.
let me put it this way. Most of the weather scientist on earth take the biosphere are a closed system. This way they ascertain that the climate change thats occuring is indeed a problem and the variables show that only human activity is whats causing most of these problems.
its all good and fine but they ignore all other factors that happen outside of the biosphere such as solar radiation, orbital anomalies, magnetic field changes and many more variables.
Quite a few studies also take these into account sure.... but we know little about what affects us from the outside as humans have only begun to research these effects a little more than a decade ago

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>>744738026
True, many dinosaurs lived well into the 13th century. The term Dinosaur didn't exists yet so when they were found they would often be called behemoths or dragons by the serfdom of the era.

>>744738733
Oceans rising is just a tiny fragment of what's going to happen. We will have a hundredfold more wildfires and as dry spells will occur more often, there won't even be any water to put them out.

>>744738689
First reply, do you live in the US? Because if not then you are correct. If you do, he's your president and you have to deal with the dumbass just like the rest of us.

In regards to the second reply, I assume you're referring to my second point. I actually took the time to look at the data we have, the methodology for gathering that data, and how that data is used to interpret previous data. I find it lacking.

As far as the third reply, this appears to simply be a frustrated, agitated, and seemingly spiteful lashing out. This point holds no ground and is thus dismissed.

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>>744733838
>climate change
>denier

You must be so proud. Don't forget to mention Dunning-Krueger next time.

>>744738788
these tests can actually cause tectonic shifts

>>744738995
good point, nobody tried it. we don't need habitable florida, we need scientific data

i bet the jews artificially created the hurricane to add legitimacy to their climate change hoax

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>>744739028
Again, you're assuming I give a fuck about your opinions or scare tactics.
No matter what happens on a large scale humans will continuously thrive.
We're like fucking cockroaches.

>>744738388
DO
YOU
EVEN
KNOW
WHAT
CO2
IS

>>744738932
You're missing the point. If Alex Epstein was a scientist he would write a peer reviewed papers with his argument. He's not a scientist so his opinion is scientifically irrelevant, as is yours and as is mine until it's published. That is the scientific process.

>>744739250
yes, it can start earthquakes or volcanic eruptions but if you don't do it in yellowstone, the effect on climate will be minimal

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>>744733838
Both Florida and Texas have very nice climates.

In fact millions of people have moved to Florida largely because of its climate.

Good job.

>>744739176
ok to your first point

if you find it lacking then it MUST be true

i was afraid of that. im ok with my point being dismissed.

That being said, what is the point you are trying to make? How does someone who writes so much say fuck all. Dumb ass.

>>744736954
This isn't reddit you dumb cuck.

>>744739321
I'm not the guy you were responding to, but I'm pretty sure that if you personally take a look at the methodology of the study that started the whole "97%" meme you'll agree that it was flawed

Don't take Alex Epstein's word for it

>>744739321
Incorrect. Being a scientist doesn't magically make your opinion relevant. Stop doing that.

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>>744739321
>Hurr Durr
My opinions don't matter because it's not peer reviewed.
News flash faggot, none of these science journals matter either.
Shit like this changes on the regular.
Constantly having arguments and counters to papers....

Pic related, the kind of ammo you'll need to an hero with that big ass ego of yourself.

>>744734577
You are a fucking idiot, seriously kill yourself, no im not fucking around, you are one stupid cunt.

>no, it wont have devestating effects

Fuck you, just fuck youcoral bleaching and carbonic acid dissagree with your dumbasd

>>744739254
they could always test it out over the open atlantic, well before it makes landfall anywhere

>>744739568
its reddit 2.0 and has been for quite some time new guy

>>744739427
This guy indirectly brings up a good point. If you think man-made climate change is a problem, you are in for a rude awakening when Yellowstone blows its top,

>>744739577
I have and i dont.
>>744739588
A scientifically robust argument leer reviewed makes it relevant.

>>744739649
there is literally no legitimate reason for anyone to own this kind of ammo. it isn't designed for self-defence, it's designed to mortally wound in case the shot doesn't kill the person instantly.

>>744739672
Do I detect a bit of salt? Good. The more emotional turmoil I cause you, the more I will make you question your beliefs, until eventually you lead yourself to the truth.

>>744734356
We need to get rid of people like you.

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>>744733838
>climate change

>gullible faggot shill detected

>>744739814
You just can't drop the appeal to authority, can you?

>>744739740
a 10+km meteor or yellowstone erruption are possible threats but they are very unlikely while the climate change is already happening

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Can I just point something out.

Pretty sure all you faggot trap lovers and sympathizers dumping your left over estrogen into the water table as you spew out your non-binary cohabitants loads into the toilet are femanizing the fish in the Coral reefs long before they died.


You faggots are faggoting up the planet with your faggoty good intentions and organic buttplugs.

>>744739954
You can get rid of the people, but you can't scrub the world of the ideas.

>>744740106

lost

>>744740094
I've read this over at least seventeen times, and I still can't make sense of your logic.

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>>744740094
yellowstone eruption isnt unlikely at all since the pressure is constantly building up.... the thing they cant predict is when

>>744740182
I assume this means you're implying he lost the argument. If becoming irrationally angry qualified as "losing the argument," most of the people in this thread would have lost already.

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>>744740106
/end

Fucking lost hard.

>pic related
>3edgy5me

>>744740267
preparing for yellowstone erruption while ignoring the climate change is like living in Syria and preparing for zombie outbreak. it will be useful if it comes to that but right now, there are much more significant problems to attend to

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>>744733838
Hurricanes have nothing to do with human actions you idiot.Hurricanes exist since like ever.
We are denying fake liberal ''global warming'',but not existance or hurricanes, vulcano explosions,earthquakes etc..

>>744740424
Precisely my point with >>744740407
I continues regardless of how butt hurt you faggots became. You don't get to declare victory as soon as somebody on our side becomes angry.

Climate scientists are scumbags. They've been caught red-handed omitting data that doesn't fit their narrative. They aren't even real scientists, they just use science-y words to describe things that can't actually be subjected to the scientific method. And their models and predictions always end up being completely wrong.

>>744740530
By all means, I believe you're right. But when it inevitably comes, Yellowstone will show you what true climate change entails.

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>>744740530
You're talking about Jews femanizing western men to cause destabilization in the American infrastructure and possibly separate the union as a country as large and populated as such would be the largest power in the world.
Near unstoppable even.

>>744734054
The can hold up to 7% more water for every degree that the average temperature increases. So yes, it very well does have an impact on hurricanes.

>>744739316
DO
YOU
KNOW
WHAT
CORRELATION
MEANS

>>744740743
I meant to say "the air can hold up to 7% more water".

>>744740569
you are too far off the level of argument we are having. How educated are you? I don't think you can follow the discussion in this thread.

Well, I'm afraid I must retire. It's been fun lads, I'll never get tired of arguing with gullible fools online.

>>744740839
STOP THAT.

>>744740887
Make sure all your lights are off before you go to bed to lower your carbon footprint

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>>744740644
Sauce, only niggers post shot like that without links and shiiieeeeeeet

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>>744740530
so you are saying a less than a single degree increase per year in temperature is more of a threat in the immidiate future than a cataclysmic nuclear winter class event that has a high probability of happening before the century has passed?

decisions, decisions...

>>744740389
ok, it's very likely to happen in the next 400,000 years. but it's unlikely that it will happen in the next century or so

>>744740569
Yeah, because the air (clouds) being able to have more water in it will make absolutely no difference in a hurricane. Where the fuck do you think the rain during a hurricane comes from?

>>744739300
The scenario of US citizens sitting in front of their houses, no water and no food around anywhere for any money, may not even take fifty years, if we go on like this.

You are the slack, poorly educated shithead that thinks it's all fine right now. You go to your supermarket and by a plastic packed double sandwich for 1.50$ and some Mountain Dew and everything is fine.
We are slowly experiencing the globalized market shaking. In central Europe, crop fails have led to a high import of apples. Countries that formerly exported apples have run short in within a few months and resort to apples from Africa, Chile etc. to put them in the shelves, still.

>tl;dr: Everything seems just fine to an oblivious consumer cunt that you are.

sorry that you are butt hurt. Its just true. Can't help you being a dumb ass. Hey, at least you have your fucking opinions. drive down to Florida. its just gonna be a liberal hoax of a storm.

>>744741127
>>744740922
sorry that you are butt hurt. Its just true. Can't help you being a dumb ass. Hey, at least you have your fucking opinions. drive down to Florida. its just gonna be a liberal hoax of a storm.

>>744740999
it doesn't have high probability of happening. the whole "yellowstone is ovetdue for erruption" is urban myth

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on one side of the debate you have the scientific community and just about every government in the world, and on the other side you've got trump and a bunch of inbred rednecks who have a truck or a motorcycle as their profile picture. pic related is your average denier.

>>744740767
CO2 isn't acidic. CO2 is the gas you are breathing out of your body right now. Plants require CO2, and in turn create Oxygen for you to breathe more of. I don't understand why you all think CO2 is a terrible thing.

>>744741217
co2 dissolved in water creates h2co3 which is slightly acidic. that's why it's put in drinks

>>744741217
Did you learn nothing in basic chemistry?

CO2 + H2O -> H2CO3

H2CO3 is an acid. There is water vapor everywhere in the air, which means that CO2 in certain situations will be acidic. This doesn't happen everywhere on a large scale, but in small amounts everywhere. It's not a strong acid either, but it still contributes.

The US and China/India are the biggest Polluter.
Or Polluters? ^^

Now you get the result of it, like many other Countrys.

>>744740991
You can comb through all the leaked emails from climategate if you want, or you can read a recap like this article here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/6636563/University-of-East-Anglia-emails-the-most-contentious-quotes.html

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>>744741217
CO2 isnt... but if it fuses with the hydrogen molecues in the water you get H2CO3 which is literally carbonic acid

>>744741217
https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/overview-greenhouse-gases

>>744741127
I understand that you are doing this on purpose, but why?

>>744741117
I grow my own crops and spend about 10-15 hours a week canning fresh produce.
Live on a farm with my own well.
Chickens, Goats, Ducks, and Two horses.
90% of the meat I eat I kill, clean, and cook.
I can fix my own vehicle, electrical, and have experience in most home maintenance and have been maintaining my home for 15 years.
The only problem I'll have is that I work online.... extra rain might make my satalite internet really shitty.

Don't assume things faggot.
Not everyone is as helpless and pathetic as you are.

>>744741217
There we go boys, we have a smart one!
The fauna has taken millions of years to create a stable atmosphere for animals to even exist. The CO2 in the armosphere was gradually broken up into O2 and Carbon via photosynthesis. Have you been to school?

"Ocean acidification is the ongoing decrease in the pH of the Earth's oceans, caused by the uptake of carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere."

My god, what am I doing here arguing with such bleeding idiots?

>breathing
Most of what you breathe is actually Nitrogen. The thing you really need from the air is O2. CO2 is harmful.
Please don't let this person breed.

>>744741398
Requires an input of energy.

>>744741217
Because CO2 is opaque enough to allow in the sun's rays but not let out the heat emanating off the earth.

>>744741498
yes, like sunlight. where on the earth could that happen?

>>744741453
I am very serious. You can't just fucking have a conversation with someone and then decide that you are smart enough based on listening to the crap they said (probably also trying to be smart) to reject science. You just fucking dont have a clue. Sorry.

>>744741560
Not quite how it works.

>>744741463
you're privileged enough to be self sufficient, good on you, want a medal? meanwhile in the real world not everyone has the same opportunity.

>>744741482
>The fauna has taken millions of years to create a stable atmosphere for animals to even exist.
fauna literally means animals you dumb fuck

Climate change deniers are physics deniers. Heat = Energy; more energy in the atmosphere = more volatile weather. It's really a simple concept.

>>744741543
It isn't opaque enough to do that. Stop buying into the climate "science" lies.
If it we capable of such a thing, we'd all be dead where we stand.

>>744741463
You sit in your glasshouse and believe that everything will be fine, no matter if we go on like this or not.

If you have your own farm, congrats. You are self-sufficient and have a great life, but you have no outlook or future perspective for the coming generations. You can still be a fatalistic cunt. "devil may care" attitude.

Even as a farmer, you'll be very aware of the capitalist strategies, putting a copyright on seeds. if a farmer doesn't grow Monsanto seeds, they build farm of their own close to his, with the pollen comes the Monsanto plant to the farmers crop and - bam - they sue him and close his farm.

You let all this happen and don't have a care in the world. Congrats! It's even more important for you, as it directly threatens your existence: Heat waves and weather extremes will ruin your crops and let your animals die.

>>744741482
Think of it this way: if it were such an issue, the oceans would've been acidic long ago.
It requires energy input, so it's such a rarity that it's a nonissue. And even then we can separate it.

>>744741654
No one is denying that retard. The debate is whether or not it's man made.

>>744741626
big deal, so I meant flora.
YOU DUMB FUCK
fauna and flora ....
confusing two words doens't change my point.

>>744741572
IT
ISN'T
SCIENCE

IT
IS
PROPAGANDA

STOP
LYING
TO
YOURSELF

>>744741654
oh and heat doesnt dissipate in the atmosphere? you are arguing against the same physics notion. The earth is not a closed system.

>>744741874
>the oceans would've been acidic long ago.
>It requires energy input
The bullshit you come up with in your fantasy world should be forbidden.

>>744741654
Not quite how it works, but close enough.

>>744741945
You probably take that from your dear Donald Trump, who hasn't told a single lie in his entire life.

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THE SKY IS FALLING!!1