IS IT GAY? So although I don't take to heart/value the opinions

>>744679475
better yet, what if the guy inserted the fleshlight into his anus and the other one fucked the fleshlight. is taht really gay?

>>744679573
I considered that, but then I figured that if your ass was loose enough to fit a fleshlight, might as well just fuck your ass, right? and if you need a plastic barrier seperating you, just use a condom

>>744679475
Why not just fuck?

It's gay. Sorry, but you are still getting off with a dude. Forget the fleshlight and fuck him us the ass using a condom. It's less convoluted.

>>744679690
not everyone has enough time or effort to put into ass training
not everyone likes taking it up the rear but wants to get off
this is a different experience

Still gay. Specially if you have low hanging balls and if they clap each other.

>>744679475
Did that's like a 9/10 on the gay scale your basically helping a dude jack off now matter what or how your doing that's shits gay

>>744679966
the balls wouldnt touch, see the pussy runs along the thighs and gooch. dick is on the other side

>>744679855
A different GAY experience but a gay one nonetheless

>>744680037
helping your friends is gay now?

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>>744679475
Really, super gay. Like, 9.5-9.8/10

Can we please get off the gay thing here and discuss practical means of achieving this?

>>744680137
fuck him already faggot

>>744680315
His dick is too big, I don't want to actually take it in the ass

>>744679475
Nah, dude. That's not gay.

Unless they make eye contact. That's fucking gay.

>>744679475
If you cum, in close proximity to another man, its gay

>>744680103
It's definately not gay if the balls don't even touch.

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>>744680623
How is this gay? He's fucking a mold of a woman. Which means he's practically fucking a woman.

Are you trying to tell me fucking women is gay? Just because a man helped you do it?

>>744680623
so if i fuck a mans wife while he's in the house its gay huh

>>744680797
Exactly. Chicks are for faggots. Don't be a vagina-loving queer

>>744680137
That's the idea of gay sex, helping your partner get off. At how is that not gay

>>744679475
If youre considering getting even naked with your friend then why even bother just fuck already

>>744680905
Classically gay behavior.

>>744679475
That's a 10 homie. That's how binary options work.

>>744680999
>The goal of sex is to get someone else off.
kek. What, are you asexual or something?

>>744680999
Here's an idea: friends help friends get off
if i wanna moan in a girly voice about how badly i need my buddy's cum in my pussy and or mouth, it's with the goal of helping him achieve satisfaction.

Don't have friends willing to do that for you? Must suck not having true friends.
Not willing to do that for your friends?
Must suck being insecure.

>>744681101
It's binary?
So is fucki g a woman while a man watches a 10?
If so, is fucking a woman with a man in the room as gay as fucking him?

>>744681101
>10
>Binary
It's okay OP. This guy says it's a 2.

>>744679671
but fucking guys ass would be gay, doh

>>744681101
>binary options
think you need to go back to gradeschool if you don't understand the concept of a scale/percentile

>>744679475
this is more gay than just fucking a man

>>744681490
not if theres a condom between you

>>744679475
This is somehow worse than being gay because at least faggots are willing to admit it and fuck someone, however you are so lonely and faggoty you're actually considering getting naked with another dude and not even having sex. OP you are beyond a faggot and beyond a beta cuck you are just... kill yourself.

>>744681288
>moan in a girly voice about how badly i need my buddy's cum in my pussy and or mouth
Thats a 12

>1. If 1 is fucking a woman and 10 is fucking a man, how gay is this?
You're using a fleshlight dance around the fact that you're thrusting against a man's ass. That's 10/10 gay. The mental gymnastics you'd need to not feel gay while doing this actually makes it gayer than fucking a man.
>2. is there a good, comfortable way to hold it in place so other positions could be used?
Like, maybe you could mount it in an article of clothing or something? Like a reverse strap-on? But I don't think you're going to manage to make it 100% comfortable. You're better off either just jerking each other off with the fleshlight or fucking each other in the ass.

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>>744681553
>mfw im a virgin by this logic

>>744681288
I'm just one guy but I've never heard of that happening in any non gay matter. You don't have to get angry as nobody has yet said that being gay is a bad thing. I don't think you should be taking in the opinion of the internet as harshly as it seems you are

OP here, I feel like you guys are still harping on the Gay thing, I'd like to move on.

How can I make this comfortable to achieve?
I need a method of fastening to the thigh/gooch that allows for movement. Current schematic only works as long as the Top is behind and the Bottom's thighs are clasped tight.

>>744681705
Inb4 this is bait

>>744681673
How can it be gay if you're pretending he's a woman?

>>744681705
I'm not upset at being called gay, I'm upset that a consensus was a chieved that this was gay and yet people still haven't said anything productive

It's not gay if you keep saying "no homo" while you do it.

>>744681692
You'll have sex some day.

>>744681889
But it's not gay.

>>744680797
Are you trying to tell me you think the insertion of your sad excuse of a manhood into something is everything there is to fucking? Sounds fucking sad to me bro...

>>744681709
OP here. I'd like to keep discussing if this is gay or not.

>>744681987
Hey, I agree, but in fairness I asked for peoples opinions and they basically all said gay, so I figured my question had been answered.

>>744682050
Are you trying to tell me straightness is not dictated by what you stick your dick into?

OP, you are being a potato.
There are no gay acts.
Repeat, no act, in itself, and of itself, is gay.
There are only gay people, and context.
What you described is not gay, but it would suggest that you and the other might not be 100% heterosexual.

>>744681709
Here, the bottom wears a belt between his upper thighs to keep it from falling. The top can now duck the bottom as he wishes in doggy style

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>>744682118
how the fuck is it not gay? this is the equivalent of lesbians using a strap on

>>744682242
belt between the thighs
can you elaborate, maybe with a drawing? I'm not sure I understand where it would fit

maybe two belts, criss-crossing the lower body by looping around one leg, through the crotch area and then over the hip?

>>744682332
thats not gay either

it only becomes gay once they touch each other's wee

>>744682208
>There are no gay acts.
>Only gay people and context.
Putting your dick in your partners ass, while reaching around and holding thier cock? (no dildoes. It's just not the same)

Can you please build me a non gay context for this?

>>744682527
Here's a non-gay context: two friends, helping each other

>>744682332
Strap-ons aren't gay. That shit is hot.

>>744682626
lost

>>744682332
No attraction = not gay.
You might call it splitting hairs, but sexual orientation deals exclusively with attraction.
To post a situation: My gf fucks me with a strap-on. I'm taking it in the ass, so I must be gay, by your reasoning. She is using a strap-on, so she must be gay. Thus, by your terms, a man and a woman fucking is gay.
That doesn't make any sense.

As I described above, there are no gay acts. Just gay people and context.

>>744682393
Like lowering a belt to your scrotum. You can then put the pocket pussy between your crotch and the belt

>>744682913
except none of what you said is my reasoning. having sexual relations with a member of the same sex is homosexual, thats literally the definition

>>744682997
Could work. I was aiming for something that would run the length of the pocket pussy sleeve, holding it tight against the body.
Like for example, If I wanted to do a reverse cowgirl, I'd hate to have entry interrupted by a floppy, flailing vaginal opening

>>744682527
Using the context you already provided, of being partners, sure, I can add an extra layer.
The relationship is for financial security. You're both asexual and heavily committed to putting on a strictly consistent show for the sake of deception.

>>744682913
I believe the other guy's argument is that by the logic in the OP, two women using a strap on isn't gay, because they're simulating straight sex. The implication is that he doesn't agree with that logic. Whatever two lesbians do together, it's super fucking gay.
>My gf fucks me with a strap-on. I'm taking it in the ass, so I must be gay, by your reasoning.
This is gay by OP's retarded logic, not his. By his logic, that's straight, because it's a man and a woman.

>>744683326
I came. Thanks anon.

>>744683507
nailed it, anon

>>744679475
10 ON GAY

fellas this is really just an advanced bro-job.

>>744683308
There's this thing called tucking. One could tuck with elastic of tape or something. Then you'd just fasten the pocket puss with straps tape, etc. The fastening is a little odd

>>744683739
Interesting... it could work.

>>744679671
Fleshlights feel better than condoms.

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I can't wait for the follow up post where op comes back and his gay friend shoved his big cock up ops ass then came inside him while bareback pounding his ass hard.

>>744679475
I wouldn't even bother with that, because I would let any friend of my fuck my ass if they asked, and i would not consider it gay.. it's only gay if you enjoy it. It would be just a favor to a friend. And I'm not even joking.

>>744683980
So like have you planned to do this with someone. Its a little odd of an inquiry

>>744679475
If you have to try to think of a loophole to justify it not being gay to yourself, it's gay.

>>744684282
I'm not here to argue how gay it is, I just wanted to know what people thought of the idea

>>744684359
Well, that's my answer, then: it's gay.

Pay a female hooker to sit there and watch. It's not gay if it's in a threeway

>>744684228
I mean yeah, here's hoping.
I could even keep it down there for a while beforehand to keep it warm.

>>744679475
It's only gay if the bottom moans

Ok, I'm gonna make this real simple for all you fags: if you are engaging in sexual activity with another man, it is gay. There are no clever workarounds, it doesn't matter if you're fucking a toy held by a man, it doesn't matter if the man has taken hormones or has tits, or looks like a girl. It is black and white: sexual activity of any sort with a me,Her of the same sex is homosexual activity.

Period.

>>744684599
Well I wish you good luck anon

>>744684770
thats not true
you shouldn't use the F word

>>744684913
Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's not true.

Faggot.

>>744684599
Side note tucking might be difficult if you plan on getting an erection while bottoming

>>744681692
your dick never touched the inside of a pussy. so yes you are a virgin not just by 'this logic' but by every other logic there is, faggit

>>744684990
I dont care 1 way or teh other, but its factually wrong
please don't say that word it's callous and unbecoming of your character

>>744681453
Underrated post.

>>744685165
It is literally, factually correct.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homosexual

You silly faggot.

>>744685069
thats true, I figured it would just be the tucking method used on the sleee while the junk flies free. I mean, might as well keep it out of the way

>>744685252
anyone can edit wikipedia dude

>>744683507
>tfw I'd argue that being stimulated by something resembling a dick is more gay than fucking her, but not as gay as fucking him
Subjective scales sure get confusing when everyone insists they've the sole arbiter.

>>744679475
11

>>744684770
>genetics that you can't fucking see are more sexually attractive than secondary sex characteristics
I mean, you can argue that you're turned off by dick, but at that point, why watch porn?

>>744685512
Why not just make 10 gayer?

>>744679475
You're gay if you like people of your gender in a sexual way that's all it is

>>744679475
if gay is 10 and aids is 20, this shit is a 16

I could flip the fleshlight around and sit on it for missionary, I'd sorta look like one of them "futa" girls

>>744679475
Well this is probably the best way to convince hot straight guys to have sex with me

What I'm really aiming for is a comfortable way to fasten a pussy canal along my lower body so I can get "fucked" without getting fucked

>>744686256
But then what if YOU use a fleshlight so you can get "fucked" while you're not getting fucked while you fuck?

>>744679475
>1. If 1 is fucking a woman and 10 is fucking a man, how gay is this?
At first blush this would be about 999/1000 gay. But if this was to practice doggy style with a male friend before trying it on a woman, the gay scale drops to 195/1000. Any laughing or giggling during your hypothetical coupling brings the gay scale back up into the 900s.

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>>744682062
It's fucking gay man. No shit, suck each others dicks if you like it fuck ass.
Or get a girl autistic enough dealing with (you)
>fucked a mate with a flashlight between his legs
>thinking this is not gay and less effort than fucking girls
>never forget

Choose wisely

>>744680623
Obviously, you're not a swinger

>>744684770
10/10

>>744682913
LOST

>>744684550
Hilarious

>>744686256
this gay christian. -.-