So which side do you support /b/, the fascists or the ones

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>>744284581
Congratulations, this is the most Hillary Clinton thread on /b/!

0.0000002 capitalistbux will be deposited in your PrivilegePlus(TM) account

>>744284581

A trick of words. I would like to shoot vandals and thugs in the head.

Being grateful that I'm white is not a crime. The trans snowflakes need a dose of reality. Enough of the Obama faggot era bullshit.

>>744284581
>choose either Stalin or Hitler

Neither.

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>>744284581
>AntiFa: If you disagree with my very specific version of extremist marxism, you are a literal nazi and I will fight you.

>Conservatives and Classical Liberals; That's ridiculous, fuck off.

>Antifa; Look! Nazis!

There are literally no Nazis. Antifa people are delusional, dangerous, and belong in mental institutions.

>>744285198
>Proof that "classically liberal" autists are just neo-nazis in bow ties

>>744284581
ANTIFA are the better of a bad choice.

A better option would be to ignore both these groups and eat the rich.

>>744285348
>A better option would be to ignore both these groups and eat the rich.

DING DING DING DING

Also, it's not a coincidence that these white supremacists are being encouraged to hit the streets as our economic system enters the final stages of its death spiral.

liberals, democrats, conservatives.. everyone equally sucks dick

>>744285522
everyone equally sucks capitalist* dick

>>744285522
It's good that you admit to being a faggot.

>>744285584
nah fam, in capitalist system the rich get to suck the bigger dicks.

04 November 2017

Im anarchist and i would support the fascist side because if theres somenthing i hate more than fascists are commies

Trump is a divider, so he gets the blame. The only thing that he has managed to unit are the alt-right, the white supremacists and the neo nazis.

>>744285463
And yet Antifag are the ones getting handouts from George Soros and friends. You leftards need to stop jerking off to Das Kapital sometime.

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>>744284581
I'm for worldwide communist revolution - the emancipation of all people and the elimination of all ruling classes that will bring about a cooperative economic substructure and save our species from extinction at the hands of self-serving capitalist kings.

>>744284581
Are you shilling antifas? It seems like you're shilling antifas to me.

>>744286154
Wow that sounds incredibly easy and surely won't fail!

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>>744286050
>commies
Antifa are Marxists, and they march with and are funded by commies. They carry the hammer & sickle flag, and some even use hammer & sickle face masks.

>>744286217
>it's hard to change things
>let's not try

Get back to working your lord's land, peasant.

>>744286154
So....red fascism

>>744284581
All fascism is bad.
Jewish fascism is the worst.
No fascism = no war.

>>744286154
I threw up in my mouth

We need to throw filth like you into a camp to concentrate on not being a disgusting communist, we could call it, a concentrating camp.

>>744286284
>no fascism = no war
Are you retarded?

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>>744284581
It's like choosing between poop and shit.

Both sides are equally retarded and should all be put down.

>>744286278
>democracy equals muh economic privilege

Capitalism is anti-democratic and authoritarian. Anyone who works in a corporate setting knows this already. Socialism simply means democratic control over economy and production.

>>744286272
It's not about not trying. It's about it being unreasonable. No sane person would trad away a semi decent system for some untested utopia.

>>744286329
You reflexively hate those who threaten the power of the rich who oppress you. Interesting.

Fascists, obviously. Say what you want, but at least you can have a conversation with them, and most of them strongly support free speech.

>>744286272
I'll bet dollars to donuts you're a college student with a useless degree. So you gonna leech off the state your entire life or get a shitty job?

I'm an anticuck, so I dislike both sides.

>"I want communism"

>translation: gibs me some free shit.

>>744284581
I support these two lowest common denominators of human intelligence removing each other from the face of the earth.

>>744286445
>a semi decent system
>It's ok for me, sorry enslaved global poors
>as long as I have economic privilege, change = utopian fantasy
>if I lose my job, I'll definitely become white supremacist

Wait, why do liberals think that they're good people again?

>>744286389
How is current system not democratic in terms of who is wealthy? Do you mean people should vote on who should be rich?

>>744286503
Ph.D. in physics with good job. Just not a selfish asshole.

>>744286389
... he said, from his $4000 Macbook, whilst sipping a frappuccino decaffinato with extra sprinkles

>>744286463
Marxists do not threaten the rich at all. They never did.

>>744286661
I'll take Internet fairy tales for 500 Alex.

>>744286614
They would actually have a reason to rise up though. Most western countries do not. You should stop assuming shit too, you're way off

>>744286481
Those people aren't even fascists. Just because they're right wing doesn't mean they are racist bigot homophobes who want to deport all Mexicans

>>744286617
>How is current system not democratic in terms of who is wealthy?

How are workplaces run in a capitalist system? A small group of people own everything and the people who do the work obey them or starve. That's supposed to be democratic?

>Do you mean people should vote on who should be rich?

Nobody should be "rich". Our economic system should not distribute goods in that way.

>>744286614

the greentext is describing liberals? reads conservative to me.

>>744286802
Wouldn't this devalue the currency to shit?

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>>744286715
And yet, armed white supremacists are allowed to occupy government buildings with impunity while Freedom Road gets raided by the FBI. If there was ever a law against being a white supremacist Nazi, you people would flip your shit. And yet...

>>744286661
>Not a selfish asshole
>Wants to implement a system that has literally never worked in the real world and has killed millions of people

>>744285190
This.

Both extremes are shit and playing up victim mentality so that they don't have to take personal responsibility for their current situations.

On the extreme right, you have the "damn niggers, damn jews" crowd blaming everything that is wrong on them, and they actually believe that they can't get ahead until these problems are gone.

On the extreme left, you have the "damn cis-genders, damn whites" crowd blaming these groups of people because they feel like they've been given some societal privilege that got them to where they were.

If everyone would stop worrying about the other guy, and focus on themselves instead, we wouldn't have these problems. People in the middle get it. Life is hard, and life is unfair....deal with it!

>>744286899
Socialists want an economic substructure free of wage labor, market exchange for profit, and private ownership of capital. Communism is as different from capitalism as capitalism is from feudalism.

>>744286891
I see myself as a centrist. Mightve gotten more conservative recently I suppose.

>>744286930
>this is what delusional marxists ACTUALLY believe

>>744286935
>Wants to implement a system that has literally never worked in the real world and has killed millions of people

No, that's capitalism. You only think it works because you're one of the few who gets to eat scraps from the tables of the rich.

>>744287103
These are all facts. Please feel free to show otherwise.

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>>744285198
>There are literally no Nazis
If it uses Nazi symbolism, uses Nazi-speak, and blames the jews for all their problems, what is it?

>>744286891
I think he was trying to display himself as how liberals see him. I guess you may have proved his point.

>>744287160
Definitely barbarian Nazi demons.

>>744287019
I know but how would this work in terms of import/export and in relations with other non communist countries?

>>744286930
The communist organizations of the early 20th century were stupid enough to advocate the overthrow of the United States because "muh workers revolution". White supremacists don't want to tear up the constitution, just amend it ;).

>>744284581

both are retarded kids having LARP battles to support two different retarded and failed ideologies. Its a complete farce.

>>744286779
"These people"? I'm assuming we're talking about actual fascists, when the question was about fascists. My response relates to nothing else.

Also, fascism isn't right-wing, it's third-positionist. It rejects both the political left and the political right.

>>744284581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQc8ODBHMz4

>>744287160
trump supporers

>>744285686
What did you fucking say about me you little fucker? I 'm a top-level NSA worker with high connections to Reddit, Facebook and 4chan. We infiltrated this piece of shit and all the mods here are controlled. I 'll ask who is behind this id, track you down and I 'll scare you so much.. oh man, you'll never sleep again. I 'll reveal all your personal secret information and your sexual preferences to your boss, your family and your friends and expose to them who you really are and your real nature. I can be anywhere, everywhere. I 'll make sure the banks won't lend you money anymore, your insurance will stop to work for you, and I 'll plant CP on your pc so that you'll be busted by the feds after I tipped them about you, you disgusting pedophile. I 'll contact my Mossad friends and be sure that you'll be watched all day. They'll be ready to abduct you and brainwash you every moment. Ohh you are so fucked. You won't be able to fucking walk om the street feeling safe again. After I fuck you all over, I 'll get a Mossad agent to fly a drone to your house and completely annihilate it, only smoke will be left. After that we'll call it an accident with a bomb which you tried to make on the news, we control all that crap, the news, CNN, everything. I would an hero soon if I were you, because you are fucked. I 'll let you get registered as a terrorist on a watchlist and if you fuck with me again, have you put on the CIA death list with imposters impersonating you as a terrorist. They'll track you down and an hero you. You fucking had it coming you little fucker.

>>744287246
Communism requires worldwide revolution. Communism in one country would result in war to the death with the capitalist ruling classes in all other countries. Socialism anywhere is a mortal threat to the rich.

>>744284581
Im with the ones who oppose the fascists.

You'll never see me supporting antifa.

>>744287349
That sounds like an impossible task. At least currently.

>>744284581

I don't like Antifa

>y-you mean ol Nazi

I don't like Nazis

>y-you mean ol Antifa

You can hate one without being the other, fucking retards. Those two groups represent extremist polar opposites of the political spectrum. The fact that anyone would be apart of either is just a lack of critical thinking skills and common sense. Just a bunch of edgy teenagers jerking off to failed, dead ideologies like they've discovered something new and revolutionary.

>>744287255
>White supremacists don't want to tear up the constitution, just amend it ;)

Yeah, because you're fine with slavery as long as you get to be the slavemaster. You think you're entitled to it because you're white.

I get that your life in modern-day America is shit and you don't have the privileges your father had. That doesn't make you a bad person. What makes you a bad person is deciding that the answer is fighting to enslave others to restore your privileged state than creating a world in which everyone cooperates to perform necessary work and everyone's essential needs are met.

To be honest, Jesus would be disgusted by you and your ideology. You have allowed hardship to make you an evil person.

>>744284978
To bad the Antifa retards generally START the violence, even with no "Nazis" present. Keep playing that card though. Just an FYI, everyone sees right through you.

>>744284978
lemme get a better quality version of this

>>744284581
It'd rather we just fixed the police corruption so we wont even need antifa

>>744286802
... he said, from his $4000 Macbook, whilst sipping a frappuccino decaffinato with extra sprinkles

>>744287019
... he said, from his $4000 Macbook, whilst sipping a frappuccino decaffinato with extra sprinkles

>tfw no option 4 snek

>>744287568
Too bad 90% of the antifa posts are /pol/ larpers trying to piss off normies

>>744287349
... he said, from his $4000 Macbook, whilst sipping a frappuccino decaffinato with extra sprinkles

>>744287112
Your facts are literally false; America has the best standard of living, even for the poor. How can you say the same about Communist countries?

>>744285348
Yeah, because being rich inherently makes someone bad or something...

>>744287624
>>744287644
>extra sprinkles

I don't believe you've ever had coffee before. Or used the internet, apparently.

>>744287349
Reason why communism never works:
Goes against our natural wants/desires.

People want to become rich.

Once communism is made and you use 10 years of life learning about the human body to become a doctor and see the guy working at a restuarant making the same money you'll hate yourself.

Everyone choses easiest jobs rather than anything difficult and economy collapses.

>>744284581
lol
> the facists
They are both facists

>>744284581
Send them both to Auschwitz.

>>744287160
There's definitely neo Nazis out there, but just because someone is right-wing does not make someone a Nazi. Antifa wants to claim that people are Nazis when there is very clearly no evidence that they are Nazi.

>tfw no option for divine right imperialism

>>744287618
Fat chance. Cops HATE being held accountable and to root out the corruption would require them admitting that it exists in the first place.

>>744287670
>America has the best standard of living
kek, find me one study that finds the US #1 for standard of living

>>744287563
>white.......privileges.....white....privilege

wew. found the hateful racist bigot.

white privilege is a myth, and life is hard. you can either sit and cry about it, or you can do something about it. the usa guarantees equal treatment for all, not equal outcomes. thinking the government is responsible for your outcome is your entire problem.

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>>744286154
Yeah, thats not possible....

Like, inventing gundam suits and colonizing mars with strippers who hand out free tacos is a more realistic aim.

>>744284581
>So which side do you support /b/, the fascists or the ones who oppose them?
Depends, have you stopped molesting minors?

>>744287670
>America has the best standard of living

Yes, and that's why you defend capitalism with blinders firmly in place. You have no principles, you have no values, and you're not a good person. You just think that as long as you personally have stuff, the world is good. As you watch the people you didn't care about burn down the world that provides you with special privileges, you should reflect on this.

>>744286661
Alright, explain to me the advanced principles of statistic mechanics, and how entropy may be calculated based on knowledge of reaction velocity. If you can't do this 1st year college material, your words don't mean shit to anyone and you're a fucking pathetic liar.

>>744284581
>skincunt
>fashy

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>>744286715
>Marxists never threatened the rich
hows them US owned sugar and fruit plantations in Cuba? Batista still watching over those?
Hows those romanovs doing?

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>>744284581
Sorry chum but I roll alone.
I like the idea of opposing the state but most of these antifa guys are just liberals in dressup opposing the right.

>>744287811
>white people in America are truly the greatest victims of racism

>>744284581
>there are only fascists and Antifa

You are the biggest problem in America. I have taken everything into consideration and you/yours come out on top, easily.

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>>744284581

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>>744287716
>you haven't used the internet before
>on 4chan
>not used the internet before

>>744287618
We don't need people who hit people with bike locks as punishment for expressing their free speech regardless of the police situation.

>>744287781
>There's definitely neo Nazis out there
>Antifa wants to claim that people are Nazis when there is very clearly no evidence that they are Nazi.
No, you want to claim Antifa claims everyone who leans right is a Nazi, which is not the case. They claim people who talk and act like Nazis are Nazis, which includes killing others because of an inherent superiority.

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>>744287811
I Agree. Tell this guy something about the "white privilege"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvlQHr590kY
true fashism m8

>>744287929
Hey, you only posted it once! Good job - now you're getting it.

>>744288000
Been here longer than you kid xD
Also checked

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>>744287999
TRIPS CONFERM

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>>744287811
>the usa guarantees equal treatment for all

Sure kid. Is that why there are nearly twice as many Blacks that are incarcerated when they make up less than 1/4 of the population? Is that why women get paid less wages than men? Is that why Black and Hispanic teens are far more likely to be killed by a cop during a routine traffic stop?

kys

>>744287494
I hope that most people actually realize this.

>>744287563
>To be honest, Jesus would be disgusted by you and your ideology. You have allowed hardship to make you an evil person.

Fuck Christianity, I don't follow the creed of a supposed hippie jew zombie.

Heres the truth dipshit: leftists aren't creating an equality filled shiny-happy Utopia. What you ARE doing is basically handing over the country to shitskins and kikes. You aren't destroying privelege, your just paving the way to make blacks, mestizos and jews the new privileged class and reduce the remaining whites to the underclass. Sure you never say it outright, but it is the logical result of the policies you wish to implement and the ideology the left has embraced. So forgive me for not falling in line with an ideology that makes me second class.

>>744288065
do a triforce and prove it

>>744288065
You should reward yourself with a cup of coffee with little marshmallows and sprinkles

>>744288090
white privlege exists
its called genetics

>>744288090
Can't possibly be anything but racisms

>>744288135
This post should definitely be forwarded to the Christian Right.

>>744288065
▲
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Papa bless

>>744288090
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Unfalsifiable_hypothesis

>>744284581

They're both fascists, idiot.

>>744288135
>reduce the remaining whites to the underclass
Why are you afraid of that, is it because you see how the current underclass is being treated right now?

>>744288090
Niggers do more crimes, women don't get paid less or everyone would hire women to pay less, niggers and spics need to go for the gun during routine traffic stops.

>>744288090
there are more blacks incarcerated because more blacks commit crimes.

the gender pay gap is a meme. it compares the nation as a whole intentionally to show this "gap". what is not accounted for is that women typically choose different jobs than men, and those jobs don't typically pay as much because of the jobs, not because of the gender. if a man and woman are hired for the same exact job, they are paid the same, because paying one less based on their gender would be illegal.

actually there are more white teens shot by police than blacks, even thought blacks commit more crimes statistically than whites. hmmm, i guess that must be black privilege.

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>>744288090
STOP baiting a race war you damn liberals, why do you have to make everything about race? You're as bad as the right.
If you want to do a nice thing then let racial tribalism die.

>>744286069

You spelled Obama wrong.

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>>744285056
But sir. The only people triggered by " obama era bullshit" was little dick euro trash like yourself. Lol no one else had a problem with it but you dumb ass birthers. So now you want to act like you are better than thou?
Lol you fucking wannabe , spur of the moment weekend racist. Fuck out of here. Wastes of space like you are the reason Russia is slowly mind fucking all you silly little white bois. Lol you motherfuckers think you still hold the same clout you did before. Lol motherfucker that was a more masculine and reality based generation. You motherfuckers hide online, and talk trash like you would do something. But the instant you get called out, you fuck faces start crying and begging for forgiveness.
Faggot ass punk bitches. Every last one of you. Pussies.

Enjoy your trigger you cuck. Thats why leroy is stretching your flat assed wife out. You already noticed when your faggot ass fell in and recognized the taste.

Pic related, its what you wish would call you since youndont got none. Fag

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>>744288270
Gosh, Billy Bob, yo shure is smart!

>>744288135
>Fuck Christianity, I don't follow the creed of a supposed hippie jew zombie.
spoken like a true 17 year old. careful on that edge.

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>>744287662
You have literally 0 evidence of that.

>>744288278
Exactly. These people AGREE with the concept of ruling class and slave class. They're just angry about the possibility they might become the slaves. They are fundamentally PRO-SLAVERY.

Communists, on the other hand, are fundamentally ANTI-SLAVERY. This is the real reason why liberals and reactionaries toss out the "utopian" bullshit non-stop.

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I support whatever Karlie Kloss supports.

>>744288370
>You spelled Nigger wrong.

So did you.....fixed

>>744288090
The benefit of two parents vs single parent homes... the real privaledge.

Quit teaching the liberal idea of "fuck anything that moves" and start understanding why children (no matter race/color) succeed in a two parent home.

Fuck off loser.

>>744288460
Obama's only half black.

>>744288443
>YOU CAN'T PROVE IT

Innocence speaks

>>744284581
Neither, but historically we'd have a better quality/length of life under fascism.

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>>744288443
>because /pol/ doesn't try to false flag or anything

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>>744288408

>>744285198
>there are literaly no nazis
> autist obvious missed that various versions of the swastika and shit tier german flag.
> little dick is now officially a epidemic. Affects 1 out 3 white guys in america. Sad.

>>744286332
You won't find out until you try it.
Go ahead, just a little taste.
Don't be afraid to try new things, there's a big boy!

>>744285190
This.

Both sides are fucking retarded.

>>744284581
Nice try /pol/ but they're both the same side.

Antifa is a completely made up bogeyman by the alt-right to create some fake opposition. Yes unfortunately some members of the media fell for it, but the cat is now out of the bag, and everyone knows that Antifa was a false flag operation perpetrated by /pol/ and the alt-right, and possibly even funded by the Russians.

>>744288567
>after running out the isis nazis, they pose

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>>744288420
He may have phrased it like a 17 year old but all three Semitic religions are a pain in the ass that needs to be purged.

>>744284581
White power.

I'm against the racists. Seeing as how the Nazis died out after ww2

>>744288278
>Why won't you willingly be my slave.
Because fuck you, thats why.

And cry me a river for the poor blacks and browns in this country. They get far more handouts than poor or unemployed whites do and most of their problems are the result of their own stupidity.

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>>744288565
Right, you sure you wanna bring up the false flag bullshit? You Leftards have an ENTIRE WEBSITE dedicated to your bullshit.

http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/

>>744288679
>what are neo nazis?

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>>744286617
>democratic in terms of who is wealthy
That would be a plutocracy rather than a democracy, now, wouldn't it, Sparky?

>>744285190
this
/thread

>>744288635
Willful ignorance of the uneducated in the age of information.

You are an idiot bud. Read religious texts rather than just scream fairies and ogres.

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>>744288090
Being more intelligent and making smarter choices isn't privilege.

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>>744288805
Godcuck detected

>>744288718
>YOU DO IT TOO

Innocence speaks

>>744288704
>They get far more handouts than poor or unemployed whites do
In spite of the prevailing stereotypes and assumptions about who uses SNAP Food Stamp benefits the most in the United States, the highest usage is not in Compton, Queens, nor the South Side of Chicago. Instead, a city that is 99.22% white and 95% Republican comes in the lead. Owsley County, Kentucky is a community of about 5,000, residents earning the lowest median household income in the country outside of Puerto Rico, according to the U.S. Census.

According to recent data available from the US government, more than half of personal income came from governmental monetary benefits in 2009, and at least 52 percent of the county's residents received food stamps in 2011.

>>744288868
You in college studying to be a detective?

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>>744287072
>centrist
You and who else? The United Snakes lost its center in the Gay Nineties.

>>744288805
>rather than just scream fairies and ogres
wait did you assume that I'm an atheist just because I'm not a abrahamic sheep? Hilarious!
This is what americans actually believe.

>>744288107

Considering the lack of attention it's gotten. I think very very few people realize it

>>744289001
>fake & gay

>>744288866
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>>744288928
>Innocence speaks

Why do you keep saying that? Thats not an argument. I just gave you blatant proof your side is far from "innocent". How dumb are you? Already hit intellectual bedrock?

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>>744284581
This is the fucking problem with America, each side is calling the other extremists
"fucking nazis" and "fucking commies" instead of actually having an actual discussion over
differing opinions. Therefore more and more now people are actually just becoming
extremists of whatever side they sit on. Its a cesspool of triggered tards no longer debating
ideals but instead screaming accusations of extremism at each other and then behaving
like the extremists they are accused of being.

>>744288718
kek, that is not relating to what I'm talking about here on /b/ you faggot.

>>744289113
>memecenter.com

>>744289001
Not an American.

>>744289113
>diversion to maximum

Innocence speaks

>>744288805
I love how you assume that everyone will take Semitic bullshit seriously after reading the "holy" books.

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>we're just against fascism bro honest :^)
Where fascism is defined as any non-Marxist ideology. You retards chimp out over fucking libertarians and conservatives talking about how Monsanto is bad.
Also, daily reminder that the Nazi Party literally won the hearts of the people by crushing communist agitation. You're going to create the monster you claim to fight.

>>744289199
this

>>744289025
>This is what Americans actually believe.
Did you just assume I'm American just because I'm not an islamic leftist? Hilarious! This is what ironic morons actually believe.

>>744289199
Have you read any of them?

>>744288866
your webm is actually a great illustration. people make bad choices but want to reap the same rewards as those who made good choices. they get angry when they see that the other person got ahead with much less trouble, so they assume that the other person has some privilege that they don't and want the government to step in and make things equal or fair.

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>>744289171
Lol, you're a fucking moron, I'm done with you. You clearly have nowhere left to run.

>>744289242
>Did you just assume I'm American just because I'm not an islamic leftist?
did you just assume I'm left wing because I'm against Christianity?
Hilarious!
This is what rightists actually believe

>>744287772
Wasn't that the place that Soviet Russia built when it liberated Poland?

Why did antifa even start ? Who's idea was it ? What are they even fighting for ?

>>744289414

see >>744288619

false flag by the right. it's not a real group.

>>744289324
>denial
>anger
>bargaining
>?

Innocence speaks

>>744289370
>did you just assume I'm left wing because I'm against Christianity?
Hilarious!
This is what rightists actually believe

> not the same anon you were talking to.

Right wing atheist right here.

>>744284581
Fascists, of course. I don't wanna starve.

>>744289304
The King James version of the Bible, the Koran, and the Book of Mormon. Its interesting from a certain point of view, but its still semitic nonesense. Well I guess you can say the Book of Mormon is pseudo-semitic nonesense if we want to get technical.

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>>744289324

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>>744288485
>the real privaledge
Uh-oh, we got a real bad-ass here!

>>744284581
They're both collectivists and fascists. Both come from the left. Why would anyone choose a side in a leftist civil war?

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>>744289414
Antifa started in order to "combat" those who they label as fascist, which is essentially anyone that is to the right of their left wing extremism. They're known for rioting, violence and assaulting people for stating opinions, being right wing, or just being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Theyre the product of a generation who cant stand the fact that people may not have their exact same views.

This image sums them up really well.

>>744288090
I love the endless barrage of circular logic that proponents of white privilege use to convince you that it's real.

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>>744289370
Whether you like it or not paganism is a dead tradition. Atheism leaves the populace open to crass materialism and Jewish subversion and Eastern religion has no purchase in the West- also Confucianism is what made the Chinese into the insect people that they are. Right now Christianity is the best option for imparting morality to the general population and therefore the best option for a rightist.

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>>744287160
>trump supporers

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>>744287981
>Actual Nazis: lets get rid of all those jew nigger faggots taking muh jobs
>heil hitler, white power, deus vult!
>fuck that, one of them a-bombs was meant for germany, gramps took 100 nazi skalps
>counter protest
>Nazis: muh free speech
>pwease mommy nanny state come pwotect me fwom the mean buwwy anti-fa
>cops literally on the same side as Nazis
>muricuh: what nazis? i dont see no nazis. just some nice pleasant people having a picnic with swasticas and guns.
>its those anti-facists, they must be the real facists.
>trying to silence perfectly harmless groups of people with guns shouting nazi propaganda, driving cars into people.
>Anti-fa: throw some rocks, swing some bike locks
>send some assshole swasticunts packing
>muricuh: how dare you harm those decent church-going people
Americans literally care more about the rights of people to march with Nazi flags shouting white power slogans than they do about the people trying to stop dangerous white nationalist groups.

>>744288567
Wag the Dog.

>>744289324
>bravery
Come the fuck on, he was their errand boy that got hit by gas. He was a shit military commander, his generals ran that shit.

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>>744289414
They're fighting against something more than they are for something. They say they're against fascism but Trumps not a fascist and antifa really ought to turn their attention to /pol/ if they want to find actualy fascists. Trump is just a right wing authoritarian, if they're against authoritarianism then they should call themselves antautho or something.
They dress in black which is really copying anarchists even though a lot of these people are just left wing and only use anarchism for their own left wing authoritarian ends.

>>744289730
>Actual Nazis: lets get rid of all those jew nigger faggots taking muh jobs

>Actual Trump supporters" lets git rid of all those mexicans taking muh jobs

Stunning parallel.

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>>744284581
These options sound pretty much like the 2017 election.
>Do you want aids or cancer?
>Ok cancer it is!

>>744289540
>This is what rightists actually believe.
Did you just assume I'm a rightists because I used the words Islam and leftists! Hilarious!
This is what New Zealanders actually believe.

>>744289730
Christ you're trying too hard.

>>744289667
My country may be a poor shithole, but at least we don't have extremist fags like you /b/ros on the west. I feel bad for you, hope they get exterminated soon

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>>744289528
Didn't deny anything, not angry, and since when am I bargaining? What the fuck are you even talking about?

>When proven wrong, the Leftist will just repeat the same line over and over, the verbal equivalent of closing the ears and stomping the feet out of frustration.

You really are an adult child aint ya?

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>>744289651
>Nazis come from the left.

>>744289414
some guys in the 1920s wanted to kill fascists

>>744289904
>Bargaining – The third stage involves the hope that the individual can avoid a cause of grief.

Ignorance speaks

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>>744284581

>>744289904
#5 addendum: Or call them Nazi

Who doesnt like beating up nazis?

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>>744289730
>Americans literally care more about the rights of people to march with Nazi
Let alone the sit here and defend terrorists actions when they take out opposition.

>>744289644
What are you debating? Two parent homes does not create a privaledge?

>>744289730
>Nazis: muh free speech
This is true, nazis openly shit on freedom until the opportunity arises to use the idea in their favor.
>lel xD "muh freedom" what a jew
>hey where's our freedom to yell nigger at strangers? I thought this was america!

>>744284978
Anti fa is worse.

>>744284581
Nazis of course.

>>744289857
I'm not the anon you replied too but you pretty much pulled your arm out of its socket trying to reach and make that comparison. If that's true then what does that make Obama who had the highest rates of sending back illegal migrants? Would any and all European countries who make moving their very tough for foreigners to protect the bloated welfare state be fascist/nazi-esque? What about unionizing labor to make it a tougher barrier to entry? Would these things be consider fascist?

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>>744288635
Not the most accurate meme, but then memes have never been graded on their accuracy. The Abrahamic religions have been responsible for glorifying man's inhumanity toward man, but that might only have been due to the luck of the draw.

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>>744289730
I can tell you've literally never actually spoken to an actual Nazi.

>>744289773
He was actually a message carrier who had to jump trenches under heavy fire in order to get messages to and from the front. Obe of the most dangerous jobs of the Great War. Learn your history, dumbfuck.

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>>744284581
Doesn't matter.
Both sides are wrong and neither will succeed.

Antifa are fascists:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2N7LCAnp78

Antifa uses the words of Hitler for inspiration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derHRFGZ4NU

Translation:
Nazi fascists calling others Nazi fascists. Saul Alinsky 101; always call your opponent out for that which you yourself are doing.

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>>744290104
>Communists are going to take our goldz!

>>744289715
Christianity is a semitic religion. Granted its semitic character has been watered down by Greek philosophy and European culture, but that doesn't make it European. Its also the vector by which the Jew has infected Western civilization, the early Christian ban on usury necessitated the use of Jews as bankers. Christianity's actual resistance to Jewish subversion waxes and wanes, for every instance of a Christian ruler chucking the kikes out, theres another instance of a Christian ruler inviting them in.

>>744290193
what would baphomet do?

>>744289925
alright, let me explain this slowly and directly. The Nazis are and have always been a leftist movement. If the name and title of national SOCIALISTS isn't enough then PLEASE read up on people like Heidegger, Schopenhauer, Bobbio, Moravia, Papini, Prezzolini, Gunter Grass, Revel, George Bernard Shaw etc who were ALL philo-fascists and came from the left. Also, if the Nazis were right wing then please explain to me how libertarians or anarcho-capitalists fit in with socialists. Unless Ayn Rand is suddenly a left winger, she attacked Nazis in the piece I posted.

link related; https://campus.aynrand.org/works/1963/01/01/racism

>>744289310

/thread

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>>744290523
>The Nazis are and have always been a leftist movement.

>>744290194
Unpublished letters and a diary written by veterans of Hitler's wartime regiment are among newly unearthed documents that challenge previous notions about how the conflict shaped the future dictator's views.
They challenge long-held views on Hitler's supposedly brave war record, revealing that frontline soldiers shunned him as a "rear area pig" based several miles from danger. The papers also disclose that List men saw Hitler as an object of ridicule, joking about him starving in a canned food factory, unable to open a tin with a bayonet. He was viewed by his comrades in regimental HQ as a loner, neither popular nor unpopular.

>>744287160
There is literally nothing wrong with being a national socialist

>>744290523
they switched places

>>744290624
Nazi is a German word for?

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Antifa are a bunch of spoiled hipsters looking to spice up their lives working as drones in coffee shops or retail jobs with a bit of senseless anonymous violence

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>>744290523
nigga u retarded.
The name socialist was chosen to take voters from the communist party.
Hitler literally executed socialists and communist and hated them intently.
Truth is they were both rightist and leftist economically but far right socially.

>>744288679
Lexicographically correct. These days "nazi" is just shorthand for "the disgracefully authoritarian political party that my disgracefully authoritarian political party wants to unseat in the upcoming election".

this thread proves that mental gymnastics is the most popular sport among tradneet incels

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>>744290523
I wonder if they're actually for new things like gay marriage or not......

>>744290627
>Newly unearthed documents.

This reeks of bullshit.

>>744290720
white supremacists a.k.a. aryn. basically the same thing as modern-day trump supporters.

>>744290630
>All non-White immigration must be prevented.
>It must be the first duty of every citizen to perform physical or mental work. The activities of the individual must not clash within the framework of the community and be for the common good.
> Accordingly, no Jew or homosexual may be a member of the nation.

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>>744289100
>>744289167

>>744290720
/someone else
NAzionalsoZIalist
National socialist
Isn't it known in burgerstan?

>>744290624
yes, that's right evade and totally disregard the actual history behind the nazi movement as being leftwing. I posted evidence with names of people and actual evidence that they reside on the left. Not much I can do for you if you're a lead paint chip tester

>>744290720
Oh, you must be a recent convert to Objectivism. You'll have to get used to being mocked for your laughable pseudo-intellectual nonsense when you go around showing people your 100-line proof that you're an uninformed ignoramus who thinks he's better than the common religious fanatic because "it's all based on pure reason".

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>>744285198
Man, this Pepe!

>>744290657
Who switched places? You mean the philo-fascists who went to the communist party after the war when national socialism feel out of favor? Then yes you would be correct.

>>744290974
>b-but muh meme makes it true

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>>744289994
You're a fucking idiot. That is all.

>>744290871
Sorry that you can't believe Hitler was anything but the most heroic faggot on a battlefield. Funny thing is if he would have actually listened to his generals instead of being a butthurt bitch about russia, he could have maybe pulled off the war.

>>744290146
I'm not the anon you're asking, but the problem isnt a bloated welfare state, or immigration, or even a surplus of labor, its a bloated corporate welfare state that dips from public tax revenue to bail out non-producing non-employing corporate entities who return no tax revenue to the state. The job market problem is falsely created by money movers reducing actual goods and services jobs and then funding think tanks who create excuses like immigrants to blame for the problem. rallying around a false sense of national identity like white pride for a false solution to the problem like getting rid of immigrants or non-whites is what is fascist/nazi-esque.

>>744290965
Are you familiar with the term "con artist"? Sometimes they pretend to be something they're not in order to scam gullible, desperate people. I realize that it's a difficult concept for an autist to understand.

>>744291074
>here's a picture of me
>gettin mad

Whoops, you just regressed a stage

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>>744284581
Youre too stupid to realize both are fascist.

>>744291074
Jesus christ are you still butthurt about people calling out /pol/s psyops?

>>744289857
"MAGA" is Newspeak for "Sieg heil!".

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>>744290055
Your educational system has failed you.

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>>744291263
The KKK was started by the Democrat party.

I love how the left tries to falsely associate their blood-stained history with the right.

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>>744287160
The real nazis, those people are just dumbasses

>>744291101
So your arguement is they were faking to be left but were actually right? And although the left started naziism is was actually the right voting left while the left voted left?

>>744290746
The Nazis had a state capitalist economy.

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>>744290523
The right is characterized by acceptance of hierarchy as just and reasonable. Libertarians believe that hierarchies are legitimate, they just also want you to get the fuck off their property. Monarchists believe that the hierarchy is divinely ordained and that all people fit somewhere into the natural order. Fascists, and national socialists, believe that to safeguard the nation an authoritarian, hierarchical state is necessary. The left is characterized by a refusal of hierarchy as a legitimate, necessary facet of society. They believe that hierarchies must be levelled to deliver justice to the people (or so they claim). While there are authoritarian left-wing ideologies, they all claim that the authoritarianism is a temporary measure that will be eventually rectified, unlike fascism, anarchocapitalism or monarchism.

Socialism is not an inherently left-wing tendency, -Marxism- and the theory of class conflict is. Fascists reject class conflict and believe that the different classes can resolve their differences in favor of national unity. The idea that fascists are left-wing is a boomer-tier meme designed to evade the charges of "NAZI!" and "FASCIST!" made by the left. You know, as a libertarian, that you are not a fascist. Monarchists and conservatives know this too. What you refuse to do is answer the slurs with slurs of your own. Don't cuck and claim not to be a Nazi, call those fuckers commies and anarchists right back.

You don't need to redefine political terms to defend yourself, libertarianism is plenty defensible already- and I say that as a fascist. When you call us leftists you are cucking and accepting the left's memes as your own. Stop it.

>>744290746
LOL are you fucking serious? Hell he executed fellow nazis. It's not hard to fall out of the good graces with socialists even if you're on there side. We see that now with the left cannibalizing itself of any and all possible heretics. IF you're gonna say that they're socially right, that's a very weak charge. I don't think anyone could make the case that the Burkean platoons of Edmund Burke have any real semblance of the collectivism of socialists. Look, the intellectuals at the time were very explicit in saying that they were left wing. They viewed themselves as a reformed communist who didn't totally take away all of your property. They still were murderous collectivists as we know though

>>744291385
>Back when conservatives were democrats and progressives were republicans.

>>744291385
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States#Fifth_and_Sixth_Party_Systems:_1933.E2.80.93present

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>>744290627
>Citation Needed

This is complete and utter bullshit. Go ahead though, make up your lil stories.

Come on though, post your sources, they'd better be credible. Post them right now, you're getting called out.

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>>744291547
Oh so you're saying Senator Byrd was a conservative?

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>>744290523
>The Nazis are and have always been a leftist movement.
>national SOCIALISTS
Wow, you're totally right. Now tell me how the North Korea is a DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC.

>>744291489
>German nazis were anti marxist
>Left started nazism

Are you actually retarded? I bet you don't even know who Georg Ritter von Schönerer is do you?

>>744291489
>So your arguement is they were faking to be left but were actually right?

Whaaaaaaaaaat? Why would they do that just to recruit from the most gullible portion of a desperate working class?

What happened to anyone remotely socialist once the Nazis took power:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

Also, consider growing out of your simplistic binary thinking.

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>>744291507
Trotskyite please fuck off, your ideology is such a joke and has had even less success than literal anarchists.

>>744290858
Soooo gay marriage is now the litmus test of being right wing? That's not much of a test of political sides. By that standard all politicians were fascists up until a few years ago. Notice how your litmus test for not being a fascist doesn't include; individual rights, property rights, right to defend yourself, or a believe in the natural law. Interestingly enough, Castro killed gays and even Marcuse, who idk anyone would deny isn't a leftist, thought that gay sex was degenerate.

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>>744284581
i don't support either since I'm not an easily manipulated ignoramus

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>>744291714
Kind of reminds me of the scene in lord of war where the main guy explains that the better the name sounds the worse the warlords are.

>>744291669
he was a holdover, but renounced the kkk and became a progressive in his later years.

>>744291763
But permanent worldwide revolution against ruling classes needs to be a thing.

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>>744291734
That happened because Rohm was planning a coup as much as it was due to the leftist tendencies of the SA. Strasserism was a good scene to be honest, I care for it a good deal more than Hitlerite natsoc.

>>744290858
Don't listen to that ass hat. National Socialism was never right, or left wing. Just another dumb fuck american who cant stop categorizing political terms from anything he's been fed.

You're gay, aren't you? Not being rude, just seems like an oddly specific question.

>>744291805
Less talking, more sucking capitalist cock for muh lifestyle

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>>744291547
>>744291556
So FDR was a conservative.......got it.

>>744291547
The gop never was filled with racists the de ocrat party kept electing racist Democrats in the south decades after the tried to block the 1964 legislation.

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>>744291889
I do get fucked in the ass 30 times a week, but as long as balls don't touch...
But it was just a general question which comes to mind when considering public rights and who would oppose them in todays time.

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>>744291848
You're a counterrevolutionary, though, and your founder is literally an A Wyatt Mann cartoon.
Whatever I think of Stalin it's undeniable that he got shit done.

>>744291878
>That happened because Rohm was planning a coup as much as it was due to the leftist tendencies of the SA.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

"We had to take him out, socialism was becoming too popular, and we never actually wanted soc - OOPS"

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Come off it, mate. Realize you've been conned and move on to becoming a good person who doesn't support a slavery-based society.

>>744284581

Neither, both are idiots.

I'm a man with rational thinking capabilities and few biases who is also capable of accepting new ideas and change.

>>744291179
Pol is 4chan and it's sad you keep losing debates.

>>744291992

They switched back and forth several times, so no.

>>744291993
>The gop never was filled with racists
Who is Strom Thurmond

>>744292024
>Whatever I think of Stalin it's undeniable that he got shit done.

I don't disagree. In post-feudal Russia the material conditions for socialism did not yet exist and the communist party had to run a state capitalist program to industrialize and create a revolutionary proletariat class.

However, Stalinism was not socialism, and was never supposed to be the long-term solution. Like all capitalisms, a corrupt, entitled ruling class took over - this destroyed the revolutionary elements of the party.

>>744288565
It's so easy to manipulate the left

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>>744292057
Says the proponent of the ideology that was literally designed to consolidate power in the hands of a tiny elite so that they can totally give it away. I'll give you that Corbyn is better than May, my deluded britbong friend, but that's only in the same way that stale toast is better than shit on toast.

>>744287662
Being this delusional

>>744286050
Anarchy comes from marxism

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>>744284581
Fascists. Hail Codreanu. Hail Hitler. Hail Rivera.

>>744287618
The police are the problem. Violent niggers and leftists are.

>>744290280
"Jesus" appears to have been a Semite but his religion is Zoroastrian. He was Mithras, his dad was Ahura Mazda (or Zarathustra), and his great enemy was his dad's twin brother, Ahriman.

>>744292101
/pol/ is a bunch of faggots, they compared to 4chan are a plague of mouthbreathers just like the_donald is to reddit, like the fanbase is to Rick and Morty.

>>744292263
Do you honestly believe that antifa would waste their time on /b/?

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>>744291848
So...you want to throw over anyone with more money than you? You realize animals have a ruling class too, right? It's human nature to have hierarchy...

Why are Communists so fucking dumb? I bet you'd want shit to revert back to the dark ages, less kings, so everyone can just wallow in their own waste and die at 30 of a cold. "At least theres no big pharma, and no ruling class!!!"

>>744292236
>ideology that was literally designed to consolidate power in the hands of a tiny elite so that they can totally give it away

But that's totally wrong and an illiterate-tier opinion.

>no its muh privilege to tell you what you think

preemptive sigh

>>744291101
Are you that dense? Are you honestly saying that ALL of those thinkers were lying about being left wing? That's a wild claim which has no truth to it that somehow violent dictators and violence must come from the right. Look the left despises freedom and has always made the case against it. If you want to know what right wing is, I suggest you read Mises, Bastiat, Hayek, Milton Friedman, Frank Meyers, Spooner, Ayn Rand etc to get an idea of what they stand for. They all despise the state wish for it to be severely diminished. They're for open borders, trade, the atomization/individuation of the individual, and peace. There was no real free market voices or "Burkean platoon" intellectuals in Europe for most of the 19th and 20th century. They were mostly all leftists. The only real voice in Europe that spoke out against the collectivists and leftist intellectuals in Europe in the 20th century was Julien Benda

>>744292108
>They switched back and forth several times

Translation: We'll push this lie to cover up all of the atrocities and bigotry committed by the democrat party and the left.

I suppose that you believe that a conservative said this too:

"These Negroes, they're getting pretty uppity these days and that's a problem for us since they've got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we've got to do something about this, we've got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference... I'll have them niggers voting Democratic for the next two hundred years".

>>744292057
>socialism was becoming too popular,
Except the Strasserists weren't really socialists, and they were a minority in the party when they decided to go there own way and try to stage a coup attempt.

Socialism wasn't as popular as Pan Germanism and fascism. Sry

>>744290946
nations don't work if they aren't homogeneous. That's why our huge multi-ethnic continent-spanning Imperial Republic is falling apart right now.

Love all the teens in this thread taking about how great socialism.

Ask the people in Venezuela how it's working out.

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>>744291516
Intellectualls will always be left wing.

Nasism was never left wing tho it was a scam to get votes, look at their policies once elected.

>>744292371
Yes because most b tards are closer casedd teens who just want to lash out. Just like antifs

>>744292148
Yes literally the only one. Who got replaced by the only black senstor from the south.

>>744292430

Conservatives and liberals are equally delusional.

>>744292412
see
>>744288445

>ANIMALS DO IT
>SO WE SHOULD TOO

Try to pretend that your parents raised you to be a human being.

>>744292337
Reddit is a far left cesspool and Rick and Morty are for Bernie voters.

It's not pols fault you can't debate.

>>744292502
you know that guy stabbed himself right? It was caught on CCTV u fucking mongoloid

>>744292470
>Intellectualls will always be left wing.
Wewest lad
>Nazism was never left wing
It was never meant to be left wing, it was designed against the materialism of the left and the individualism of liberalism. They had collectivist policies, but "left wing" is more complicated than just collectivism.

>>744291904

I don't like either

>well if you're not with us then you must be with them

That's a real easy way to make enemies.

Lol insulting people who are in the middle and not affiliated with either is how the other side gains strength. Moron

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>>744290624
>a leftist movement
Compared to MuriKKKa, perhaps. But Political Spectrum puts Brüder Adolf as a centrist.
Now, you might take exception to PS's conclusion, but unless and until you understand their methodology, you'd just be flapping your elbows and and indulging your prejudices. That's okay, you already have permission from Darth Cheeto to trust your feelings and question your thoughts. MAGA!

>>744292584
Albert Watson
Roderick Miller
Marshall Parker
I can keep going if you want

>>744292643
Whatever you say mouth breather.

>>744285198
> marchers with nazi flags
> literally no nazis

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>>744292202
The average person was not in the USSR and inherently cannot be a revolutionary nor any other kind of political actor. Stalin made Russia an industrial power and a strong nation under his rule but this pretense that true socialism would somehow come to be as the proletariat's consciousness grew is ridiculous. The average person doesn't want to be constantly engaged in a revolutionary struggle against the enemy, they want to live their little lives- which is why both of us have such a hard time recruiting today.

The worker's lot may have been better under Stalin than under the Tsar, and potentially even than under the Western capitalist elite, but desire for improved conditions shouldn't be confused with legitimate political awareness. Stalin understood this, which is why he fused "reactionary" elements into his policy.

>>744292526
nope, /pol/ is still trying to learn the whole weaponized autism that /b/ created, but are too lazy to do, so they just unsuccessfully to get /b/ to do their work for them.

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>>744292617
Humans ARE animals you fucking twit. We fight, we fuck, we eat, we kill, we have social norms and group dynamics. Are you literally to dumb to see the parallel?

>>744292734
There's no point in courting you. We know you're going to become a fascist as soon as you lose your job / privileged lifestyle. If you were a good person, you'd be against global exploitation of the poor and fighting to change our system as soon as possible.

Maybe one day you'll decide to become a good person and actually help the people getting trampled by capitalism. If that day comes, you'll be welcomed. Until then, you're just a privileged asshole.

>>744284581
you have no idea about fascism you overreacting American cunts

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>>744292844
>The worker's lot may have been better under Stalin than under the Tsar,
>""""""""refused"""""""" reactionary elements Lot of Stalin apologists in this thread

>>744291514
Look, as a conservative/libertarian mix, I despise the communists with the heat of a thousand suns. They literally get away with murder. It took the Khrushchev report and the historian Robert Conquest to expose them and they still defend their insidious ideas. When it comes down to it, as Heidegger said, was that you guys (nationalists) were the 3rd way between capitalists and communists. When it comes down to it, nationalists want to expand the state to proportions that are antithetical to right wing politics. I'm not redefining political terms, I'm merely illuminating light on a topic that has been poorly explored in recent years. Even Stalin called you nationalists "right wing" because you didn't want to bend the knee to Moscow. If there is one thing I want to do is state that nationalist doesn't automatically equal bad. They had/have their own ideas that come from and predominately were historically supported by the left. I tell you in all honesty anon that the big intellectual thinkers at the time who supported nationalism were leftists

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>>744292735
Political compass is a really shitty chart designed to place everyone in the green, though. I'm a fucking Nazi and it has a hard time putting me even in the red let alone anywhere near Hitler.

>>744292835

They aren't real nazis, they are kids pretending to be nazis because they think it's cool. Just like antifa aren't real anarchists, they just pretend to be because it's cool.

In reality antifa doesn't represent common sentiments on the left just like nazis don't represent common sentiments on the right. They are tiny fringe groups being publicized to distract people and turn them against each other. There's nothing good to be said about either one. This whole argument is pointless.

>>744292412
no its human nature to feed each other and perpetuate the survival of our species.
also you obviously dont understand what communism or socialism is. having more or less money or personal property isnt whats to be shared, its the private property or means of producing wealth, resources, and goods that is socialized and owned by the workers.
the fuckin lion who kills the antelope gets first dibs on eating and then he shares the excess with his family, if you truely believe in hierarchies like the animal world you would be putting workers and producers in the ruling class. but you're probably just content getting corpora-cucked your whole life. have fun dying in debt wage slave.

>>744292933
You're not saying that "humans evolved from animals" or "humans are a species of animal". You're saying something quite different and much less reasonable - "humans are nothing but animals, and so our social structures must reflect that fact".

The Right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqdhlsbcKzg

The Left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmuVrbaTtbA