https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthqu akes/eventpage/us2000aert#executive

What are /b/'s thoughts on living in Fallout 5?

Take them out now. That's the practical move.

We could strike fast enough to ensure no counter attack

>>744038904
>2017
>being worried about a country who has just recently entered 1945 era technology

>>744039340
a starving 4th world country thats only chance of just surviving starvation is to make an example of something and then threaten a hostage situation on the world if not sent indefinite amounts of supplies? Yeah nothing to be worried about, they have so much to lose

>>744039506
eventually people are gunna get tired of their shit
eventually they will get no aid
and maybe eventually they will strike a city with a missle
but then that will be the end of them, and if anything this lesson will strengthen the opposed use of nukes worldwide

>>744039340
Fucking this. I'm losing absolutely NO sleep over a bunch of slants barely figuring out technology we have played around with and perfected since the end of WW2... Anyone actually worried about NK is a fucking newfag millennial

>>744039060
unless you're 100% certain you can shoot down shit they launch at you after you attack, i'd be careful.

"no counter attack" nigga... come on. you think they dont have people hidden in bunkers 24/7 with fingers on big, red buttons?

>>744039506
The only example that will be made is what happens is what happens to a 3rd world country when they attack a 1st world country. We've been at war with a region that flew a couple planes into into a few buildings for over a decade, what do you think we'd do to a country that launched a nuke at us?

>>744039755
hey dumbass, they could flatten Seoul just with their artillery.

they will never stop getting aid, they are the best poker players on the world stage- nothing DPRK does is an accident.

everything is designed to gain concessions, and they are damn good at it!

what other country do you know of whose main export is "fear"?

>>744040224
Yeah, douchebag, on the side of the fucking hijackers.
Kill yourself, you credulous neocon.

>>744040421
>what other country do you know of whose main export is "fear"?
American self-awareness, everyone!

>>744040451
How the fuck am I on the side of the hijackers you fucking moron?

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Maybe Kim just tripped and fell.

>>744040068
>shoot down shit they launch at you after you attack
The whole idea of an attack is taking out their ability to launch first and foremost, if their ability to launch is removed, they cannot launch.

What a brain.

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>>744040669
Sad thing is that this is going on when we have the craziest SOB you could imagine as president. If he finds out Ching Chong said he had a tiny cock then he will push the button just for retribution and for the lulz

>>744040421
>flatten Seoul just with their artillery

So, whats the downside?

>>744038904
So now they have a 10 kt weapon...

Meanwhile, a single Ohio Class sub has 24 Trident II missiles, each missile is capable of delivering 12 nuclear warheads that have adjustable yields ranging from 300-475 kt. All that on a single sub. We have 18 Ohio Class subs

>>744040748
and you really believe you can somehow annihilate their whole arsenal in a second? including whatever shit they hide underground and who knows if not in the sea?

i mean, think about it this way. do you think that you wont miss one Kimling burried 20km under ground with a red button at his disposal?

it's not just Kim who'd be pushing the buttons ffs.

>>744040856
nice projecting

>>744041023
MURICUH

>>744041147
protecting you and everyone else in the worlds ass right now :^ )

>>744041105
It’s not projecting. He’s very sensitive about people saying he has small hands and a small dick

>>744041247
Darn, solid argument friend. I'm convinced!

>>744041054

The only reason NK still exists is because we have allies in close proximity, and casualties of any size of our allies is unacceptable. If we do hit NK with a preemptive strike, its going to be overwhelming. They might get some artillery shots off, but they will be hit so hard and fast they won't know what hit them. Pyongyang will be leveled, and while its being destroyed, every known missile launch site, military base, and artillery battery NK has will also be leveled. Basically, NK skies will be filled with cruise missiles.

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>>744041023
I just creamed...
I'm sure one or two are sitting of the coast

>>744041316
Besides the fact that I don’t have a penis to worry about in the first place

>>744041380
On top of cruise missiles, we have supersonic bombers delivering packages wherever theyre needed.

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>>744038904
I really don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to have nukes. The U.S. is the only country to have ever used atomics on another, and even then, it specifically targeted civilians and created a demographic crisis in Japan still being felt today (along with the nightly firebombings of Tokyo). Even after that War, the U.S. tested about 215 nukes above ground, and 815 underground between 1945 through 1998.

Kim's just making sure his country can defend itself.

>>744041579
everyone on the internet has a penis

>>744041435
Id bet money on it

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>>744040981
NIGGA

No Seoul = no more bulgogi or K-Pop

>>744041900
Seouls got soul

>>744041380
im sure the western world is just praying for a big enough excuse to smash the NK roaches, we just need everyone on board before we release the hell gates

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>>744041988
Seoul food.

>>744041716
>Kim's just making sure his country can defend itself.
And also threatening the US, SK, and Japan every day with them

>>744040421
>2017
>worried about chinks
>think chinkgers know what poker is
>chinkgers know what concessions are
>the only thing NK exports is keks

>>744041716
But that was during a world war and North Korea isn't known for it's friendliness or good will.

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>>744042083
>threatening
Meanwhile, the U.S. has dropped 6K bombs and counting on civilians in the Middle East this year alone, on top of the 27K last year. They (along with China) have also asked the U.S. to stop the constant 'drills' with the ROK military, insisting that they'd stop launching tests if we did.

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>>744042214
North Korea signed the Armistice back in '53, and is always extending the olive branch so long as it can keep its ability to defend itself. The U.S. and South Korea did not sign that Armistice, and reject North Korea's calls for peace every time they offer it.

>>744039921
I'm guessing you live in a fly over state. Anything hitting the west coast fucks up our farmlands.
Not talking about corn.

>>744042002
We really dont need anyone else onboard, if they attack SK, or Japan, they cease to exist. If China or Russia dont like it then thats tough shit, and if they wanna jump into war then they can get wiped out too. China and Russia have big militaries but thats about it, they wouldnt last in a prolonged conflict as we have more money in the pot. China and Russia are pretty poor, everyone seems to forget that. Russia has more nukes than we do but they also dont want to be attacked by nukes because that means both us and them no longer exist, and im sure they like being around as much as we do.

>>744041023
God why do we need so many nukes

>>744041716
>A facist state starts itself with nuclear weapons.
Don't worry, they're just "defending themselves".

>>744042637
*arming

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/north-korea-claims-it-has-developed-a-hydrogen-bomb-with-great-destructive-power/ar-AAr8Jp3?li=BBoPWjQ

If NK actually does have fusion bombs that fit into ICBM's then we're all fucked.

>>744040451
>Yeah, douchebag, on the side of the fucking hijackers.
not the one you replied to, but the SHEER IDIOCY of your MISINTERPRETATION was EPIC.
...
do faggots like you purposely HEAR SOMETHING ELSE that is not what someone says?

>>744042237
Oh right, I forgot that we single out women and kids particularly, nevermind the enemy hiding in and attacking from civilian population... Usually when a war comes, non combatants leave, if they stay, then fuck em.

>>744042560
Janes says that china would decimate us in an air war through sheer numbers.

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>>744042637
>Fascist state
>Is actually Juche Socialist
But, yes. Until they start doing half of what the U.S. does on a daily basis (killing civilians for the sake of 'democracy' and disregarding the sovereignty of other countries), they are defending themselves. Look what happened to Libya.

>>744042756
They wouldn't be 'attacking' if you weren't there to begin with, j/s.

>>744039921
>grew up during the cold war
>literally taught to duck and cover at school
>the idea that the soviets could kill the human race any second on a whim
>2017, some chink cant launch an ICBM further than Japan
>recently discovers 1940s era tech
>people worried
>an attack on the west wouldnt be suicide
let the chink boy try
she how far he gets before general kek annihilates his anime inspired "legacy"

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>>744042758

>>744042560

NK has tunnels under SK. Russia has roughly the same amount of nukes as the US and submarines to deliver them all over the US and anywhere else it fancies.

I don't know what the answer is but it sure isn't to be gung-ho about getting into a knock-down nuclear fight with Russia.

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https://twitter.com/YonhapNews/status/904215483527847936

>>744042715
>2017
>worried NK has fusion tech
>cant launch an ICBM past Japan
im not worried

>>744042593
That's the thing: we don't, but we sure like to do a whole lot of hand wringing over what amounts to a pathetic amount of power.

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>>744042946
Or China, for that matter. They certainly wouldn't want more U.S. and NATO bases near yet another part of their borders.

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>>744042715
>then we're all fucked.
OH NO.OH MY FUCKING GOD PLEASE HELP US!!!!!

Nigger fucking please.

>>744040666
Saudi sand nigger Arabia is a US (((ally))), that's how.

>>744042593
Deterrence.

>>744042847
>"doesnt meddle with international affairs"
>threatens world for foods

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>>744042863
this... absolutely.
.
but try convincing these Millenial PUSSIES about how this is not a threat when compared to previous threats...
SJWs and alt-righters are both Millenial Pussies on different sides of the fence who cry over a stubbed toe, while ignoring the fact shit was far more dangerous a few decades ago.
.

>>744042049
I want all of that

>>744042847
That's just terrorists being dicks by taking people hostage. The raw power of the US military prevents shit from going down globally. The only threats to this peace are places like NK.

So it is concerning that they're arming themselves.

>>744043020
kæk, yeah that h-bomb is gonna rook grorious exploding on the launch pad

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>>744043106
>threatening is tantamount to actively destabilizing entire regions for oil and other resources

>>744043083
>Saudi sand nigger Arabia is a US (((ally))), that's how.
see this:
>>744042731

>>744039060
China won't support us and said they would shoot down our ICBMs if we strikes first.
I'd rather not go to war with China.

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>>744043172
>arming themselves
Yes, against you. They've seen what you did to Japan, Vietnam, the Middle East, and what you did in the heat of the Korean War itself (everything that moved was bombed). They don't want that to happen again, so it's completely rational that they'd have to take these steps, especially now.

>>744040669

he is getting rather chubby, like Trump

>>744041716
>I really don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to have nukes. The U.S. is the only country to have ever used atomics on another, and even then, it specifically targeted civilians and created a demographic crisis in Japan still being felt today (along with the nightly firebombings of Tokyo).

Not like the Japanese ever did anything to piss us off, right?

Do they not teach millennials the concept of "total war" these days? It's cool to wring your hands and whine about the bad 'ol USA, but give Tojo or Hitler the bomb and a means to deliver it and you would expect them to hold back because it's cruel?

After 5 years of bloody fighting, attitudes were such that the enemy was reduced to less than animal status (on both sides). No one in the US gave a flying fuck about saving Japanese lives, and the Japanese as well wanted to see every American dead.

>>744043219
You sound like a pussy with zero knowledge of the US militaries capabilities

>>744041380
Also, China doesn't want your nigger jwe asses on their doorstep, and with good reason.

>>744041716
THIS. World leaders without nukes get overthrown. Look at Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gadhafi. They give up their WMDs, they get cucked.

>>744042731
>muh new ants
I don't care about your feelings, nigger. He knows what he meant and I know what I meant. He was wrong and I was right, jew.

>>744043202
>implying I care enough about your mythical interpretations of world events to take them as arguments
Kill yourself, neocon.

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>>744043219
>China won't support us and said they would shoot down our ICBMs if we strikes first
1. they never said that: they don't talk like that
2. anti-missle defense systems are horrible... most missiles launched would miss, so if we launched 100 missiles at DPRK AND we assumed chinese would block for them, 95 would still make it through.
.
besides your lie, you are not connected with reality.

>>744043321
You seem like an exceptionalist dipshit with a bad case of hubris. You will not be missed.

>>744043080

Right, but China "only" has around 200 nukes... just by the numbers and old but still scary USSR military infrastructure to deliver it, it's still Russia to worry about most.

>>744043378
>implying that USA is the state of the art in anything except jewish propaganda and jewish finance

>>744042946

You obviously know nothing about the US armed forces. Our navy is vastly superior and is strategically positioned to destroy all of NK China and Russia's government if we feel like it. That's why they hate us lol

>>744043410
Nah, I have an understanding of what my military is capable of, youre just a uninformed vagina

>>744042731
all day all the time

>>744043193
>implying U.S. makes threats and doesnt deliver

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>>744043349
>I don't care about your feelings, nigger. He knows what he meant and I know what I meant. He was wrong and I was right, jew.
ha ha ha!
that's not how communication works you retarded MONGOLOID, even your statement smacks you in the face!

if
>He knows what he meant and I know what I meant
this does not mean either of you communicated.
learn2english you fucking retard, otherwise you're just flinging verbal shit all over the place...
but a retarded Mongoloid probably can't nuance that one, can ya?

>>744043321

he is. a gigantic pussy

>>744042847
>Not understanding propaganda

holy fucking shit

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>>744043311
>Japan didn't do anything to piss us off, right?
Of course they did, but this only came after years of America baiting it to war, and that only happened after we forced them to 'open up' to begin with (because China was already being carved up by the Europeans at the time).

As I said, the day North Korea attacks first, then you can justify going in gung-ho and killing millions of civilians. Until then, you're just being a bully on a geopolitical scale, trying to force your will on countries that neither want nor require it.

>>744043431
Nukes, perhaps, but don't forget about their sheer man-power as well as their warming friendship with Russia. The fact that you have to rely on nukes to have any hope of winning such a war (and what exactly would be 'winning' in a nuclear holocaust) speaks volumes in itself.

>>744043349

the NEET communist is angry it seems

>>744043486
We have plans to take out every country on the planet.

>>744043219
china is only interested in china
they dont give a shit what happens to NK, they just want a cushion between democracy and china

>>744043303
North Korea is a lot more likely to strike first and now that they're trying to get nuclear that's troubling.
Most if not all of those instances of American aggression were provoked.

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>>744043481
>>implying that USA is the state of the art in anything except jewish propaganda and jewish finance

>not knowing basic physics

NIGGER, even 1945 v-2 rockets are notoriously difficult to shoot down because of their incredible speed. anybody who took
BASIC HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS
and isn't a retarded nigger incapable of basic algebra can calculate how fucking hard it is to hit missiles...
.
your retardation makes me laugh, tho

>>744043692
this

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>>744043609
>propaganda
We get plenty of that here in the U.S. If that's not obvious by now, I really don't know how to make it any more so.

>>744043645
A country 1/3 the size of Texas isn't 'more likely' to risk everything it's spent the last 60+ years building; Kim's not as irrational as we make him seem.
>points to article about him apparently eating cheese and 'plotting against the west all day'

>>744043645
america doesnt negotiate with terrorism
if you poke the eagle you get the claws

it wouldnt hurt to remind the world that this shit is not tolerated

"the hardest learned lessons are the ones best remembered"

>>744043303

are you a complete mong or just clinically invalid. you better be careful going on the internet past your bed time, your care taker will get sore at you

>>744041380
I don't think you know how ordnance works...

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>>744043866
>ad hominem in place of an actual rebuttal
I should not have expected better, I guess.

>>744043823
I don't know man I wouldn't be so sure. They seem to really hate the west, America in particular (just like Islamic extremists).

>>744043692
never heard of 1940s tech being faster than light

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1
https://defensesystems.com/articles/2016/08/19/darpa-endurance-anti-missile-laser-aircraft.aspx
http://www.defenseone.com/business/2016/08/pentagon-were-closer-ever-lasers-can-stop-iranian-north-korean-missiles/130845/

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>>744043950
Don't give them a reason to hate the U.S.
>also, we fund and arm these 'Islamic extremists,' particularly through our 'friendship' with Saudi Arabia

>>744043928
there was nothing valid enough to rebut in your flaccid excuse for an "argument" some arguments are just too brain-dead to enable responding to.

>>744043514
Shut up, half-dicked model of masculinity.

>>744043558
Well, here's the thing: I don't have to care what he meant, because 95% of the world wants him and his rape country to shut the fuck up and sit down.

>>744043692
>BASIC HIGH SCHOOL PHYSICS
>are the only thing that can stop nukes
If you think that ballistic systems are the best they can do, you lack imagination, child. It's probably easy to hack into your home network, too.

>>744043851
Kill yourself, neoliberal.

>>744043692
We have numerous satellites over earth and can see everything anyone does. We have eyes on NK and see everything they do. Our intelligence agency and military get news way fucking faster than we civilians do, and if we have reason to believe NK is about to launch at us or our allies, their super speedy ww2 rocket wouldnt leave the ground as it would be taken out. Again, we see everything theyre doing. If they move troops, we see it. If they put a rocket on a launch pad, we see it.

>>744044041
>literally marveling at the invention of fast food
who needs a time machine when you have these amish gooks around

>>744044101
>implying that it's all about the USA
>who would be better off dead to 95% of the world
Kill yourself, or wait for Russian and China to do it for you. I don't even care at this point, corporate cocksucker.

>>744043486

Yah, the superior navy in your mind vs the superior navy in the real world that can't stop crashing into civilian ships. And interecptors with success rates much less than 100%.

Russia still runs its delivery systems for nukes against its enemies at sea, on land and in the air. It's not about capabilities of the US to attack overwhelmingly it's the ability of the enemies to land MIRVs on US cities in the meanwhile.

I don't know what the right move is but shouting "Murrica!!!" while we all go up in flames isn't it.

>>744044100
have... have you even been to school?

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>>744042560
You seem to think Russia will use Nunes just because USA used nukes... what leads you to believe this?

America uses nukes, and the world will eat them. Slavs and nippers will grind you into powder using conventional weapons and live in your ex country.

Next time you won't pollute someone else's backyard with rads

>>744043823
>infrastructure dependent on international aid
>has something to lose
Nice try

>>744038976
A blast back to the 50's. I'm in.

>>744043627
>As I said, the day North Korea attacks first, then you can justify going in gung-ho and killing millions of civilians. Until then, you're just being a bully on a geopolitical scale, trying to force your will on countries that neither want nor require it.

Baengnyeong Island, ROKS Cheonan, Yeonpyeong Island are a few that come to mind.

Yes, they are a pissant little country, but letting them have nukes isn't a smart idea. If you like the idea of the US getting threatened by him, wait a few years more when he can reach all the way to Europe.

And when he starts demanding tribute, remember that once there was a chance to stop him...

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>>744044015
>never heard of 1940s tech being faster than light


you need to stop watching press releases and maybe understand a little more about how engineering actually works.

press propaganda constantly touts so-called revolutions in technology (new batteries, etc) but the actual practical applications are something your typical retard doesn't bother to learn...
as I said, a basic high school calculation will show you how difficult this is, but here is more:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/the-emperors-new-missile-defense/
of course, we could test the claim with even more EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE if you prefer.

>>744044163
0/10, you provoke no feeling.

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>>744044090
>they are doing what Libya and the others failed to do and defending themselves so as to not make the same mistake, nor meet the same fates as they did
I really don't know how you missed that.

>>744044289
Their infrastructure actually *isn't* dependent on international aid; they've built themselves up from literally the ground up, and did it without so much as one dime from the IMF (for example).

>>744044101

You're too confident... even China has satellite killing missiles the first step will be nukes very high trashing most satellites and much of the ground technology via EMP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude_nuclear_explosion

>>744044345
>nameless source from a magazine article
im so impressed mr. "ingineer"

>>744043547
South Ossetia called. They said you are a lying faggot.

And Putin is based.

>>744044345
>using a .com website as a reference
>claims to know basic high school intellect
i object

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>>744044319
Yes, I was actually in South Korea when the North (then run by Kim Jong-Il) bombed Yeonpyeong. Even then, it was a military target, not a civilian one (remember, they're still at war, technically). They need the nukes for the same reasons you do: deterrent. Even if they can't completely obliterate the U.S. at this time, there's nothing saying they don't have the right or shouldn't have the ability to do so if they are ever threatened.

But as it stands, only one (1) country has ever used such a weapon on another, and it wasn't North Korea.

>>744044393

our military equipment is hardened against EMP

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>>744044100
>If you think that ballistic systems are the best they can do, you lack imagination, child.
this is the argument an INNUMERATE NIGGER makes when he's too lazy to do a basic calculation. even laser-based GPS controlled anti-missile systems failed every time. even in 2017 they are at best a terrible defense, and THAT'S TALKING ABOUT US MISSILE DEFENSE.

the point of my response (that you are trying to rebut) is that CHINA HAS NO SUCH MISSILE DEFENSE TO BLOCK FOR KOREA.

but a retard like you missed that point.

and if they did, it would not be any better than the US system, and the US system is shit, even with all the advanced tech. because MUH PHYSICS

but keep entertaining me with your 8-year-old idiocy... it's fun laughing at you!
>It's probably easy to hack into your home network, too.
not even close, and I DARE YOU TO TRY IF YOU'RE NOT FULL OF SHIT...
I love when internet tough guys like you talk shit out of their ass

>>744044393
>China
>starting a nuclear war by destroying satellites
Just stop posting, kid.

Why tf is someone shilling for NK lmao

>>744044251
but they see that all the time... that's NK fireworks

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>>744044628
I prefer to think of it as 'countering the unmitigated flow of jingoism coming from the West.'

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>>744038904
Holy shit you are fucking retarded.
The yield is well over 100 kt.
>>744039060
The DPRK uses mobile launchers and has integrated air defence. So no you war mongering burgers couldn't do shit before Japan, ROK, and Guam were nuked.
>>744039340
Tell me more about how the US had miniaturized thermonuclear warheads and ICBMs in the 1940s.

>>744044556
You are capable of vomiting the masturbatory fantasies of the dictator-defender. How about getting with the real picture, where there are millions of people living a shit life under this asshole.

That's him, not you, another asshole.

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>>744044480
>>744044537
what is science and peer reviewed journals?
http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/abstract/document/5451061/?reload=true
https://search.proquest.com/openview/9650ac80804a664cb5baffa54a20ee7f/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=37049
http://www.dtic.mil/docs/citations/ADA590776
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0967067X10000218

you retard... you are fun to laugh at!


inb4 some motivated reasoning along the lines of "hurr durr, your sources suk becuz.... xxxx"

>>744043851
Soooo how will you explain irak Afghan and in between failures at total control?

Also please explain how is didn't negotiate with terrorists and then give them visas so they can be terrorists to Assad in Syria and hurt his feefees.

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>>744044752
>a real picture
>it's only 'real' if it fits my narrative
And this is how you know the propaganda-game is strong in the U.S., holy fuck.

>>744044726
>Tell me more about how the US had miniaturized thermonuclear warheads and ICBMs in the 1940s.
>2017
>believing NK propaganda
>even if they did, its 2017, they were obviously given it
>shit is more widespread than your mom's herpes

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>>744043851
You have a pretty short memory, friendo.

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>>744044310
It was only a blast in the fifties because they got nuked in the fifties you pleb

>>744044797
>feefees
Reddit called, they need their cancer back... Guess you gotta go

>>744044690
Yeah but they're dicks

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North Korea can't do anything without China.

We are basically only talking about this because Tokyo is concerned, and that is all.

South Korea knows and has known about the artillery, that is why their subway stations are bomb shelters.

>>744044793
>posts unrelated sources and a .com website
>expects me to change opinion
> literally admitting to being a nigger child
>not surprised tbh

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>>744044926
They're actually pretty chill.
>we want peace, but we aren't begging for it

>>744044690
devils advocate
normies understand colloquialisms better

>>744044797
forgive me, i didn't know this was reddit

>>744044606

Why, are you afraid you might have to reconsider your relaxed attitude to getting into a nuclear war?

>>744044571

That is right, but it's not magic. And although civilian tech is protected against lightning routinely, none of the infrastructure civilians rely on is protected against EMP. Even stuff as basic as vehicles will be taken out, let alone tech that runs basic services.

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>>744044982

>failing to read peer-reviewed evidence
>expects his opinion to stand despite IGNORING evidence
>literally being a NIGGER incapable of high-school math

don't cry little child... it's only the Internet
LOL!

>>744044393
This nigger gets it. Never fight where the young dumb and full of cum Amerifats want you to fight.

>>744044591
>even laser-based GPS controlled anti-missile systems failed every time
Whose, the ones that existed not to work, but to ensure that the MICC got paid?
>it would not be any better than the US system
Looks like Russia's handing our asses to us with ELINT. I think you're Exceptional, or at least think you are.

>>744044752
>everyone I don't like is a dictator
If Washington gets nuked, the rest of the USA will be fucking jubilant. All you international relations students unironically need to be killed Pinochet-style.

>>744044982
>>posts unrelated sources and a .com website

wow, are you really this retarded in real life too?

>>744044990
Idk I think they low-key hate everything good

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>>744044861
>believing NK propaganda
are you retarded? This is confirmed by multiple 3rd parties. We have pictures of the warheads. We have seismic data from the test. This isn't up for debate.
Burgers are fucking delusional.

>>744044839
Except that NKs entire "commercial industry" is a pretty looking bauble to impress foreigners and dignitaries. How many consumers do you think NK really has?