Alex Jones live from Houston still a global warming denier.

>>743479370
Alex Jones: Hurricane is a hoax, weather is fine, false flag by the MSM intended to fearmonger and sell you survival gear and nutritional supplements o wait

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yep, cuz there was no extreme weather before we started burning fossil fuels. none at all

protip: don't take alex jones seriously

aj is a genetic jew, he is controlled opposition, with the nationalist on the rise he stepped up the msm buzzword dropping.
he is sabotaging white nationalism.

the hurricane was artificially amplified to wreck texas, the last state that could go independent.

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>>743479664

pay attention to the facts.

an event of extreme weather prior to burning fossil fuels has no bearing on the accelerated and predicted rise of them after.

so the republican politicians, the oil company spokesmen (but not oil company scientists) POTUS and you are right and every other country, climate scientist and thinking person is wrong? Got it.

learn to logic faggot

>>743479903

the earth came out of an ice age, and you're telling me that the planet keeps warming up and having violent weather to balance itself out? shocking

>muh appeal to authority
science has been wrong before, oh but a bunch of scientists think they can predict the future this time? a bold strategy, cotton

>>743480832
coninued:

https://www.technocracy.news/index.php/2017/07/04/fatal-courtroom-act-ruins-michael-hockey-stick-mann/

"every other country, climate scientist and thinking person"

>>743480832
Yes there is some natural component to global climate change

No the laws of physics and nature do not give a fuck about the reason why it's happening, and if it continues getting worse at this rate there's going to be huge problems

Saying that there's no reason to do anything about it because it's natural, is like saying there's no reason to operate on cancer because it's a perfectly natural way to die

>>743480832

nobody has said there aren't natural forces at work in warming the planet. what everyone is saying is that we're a huge participant in speeding up that process to a point that it can't come back from. left to its own devices earth will fluctuate and maintain enough balance for life to continue, without a limit on our own contribution earth will end up uninhabitable, like venus.

>>743480832
Relevant
https://xkcd.com/1732/

>>743481767
>hockey stick graph

>>743481145

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>>743481517
>muh everyone
>earth will end up like venus

This is tiring. Everyone I've met that denies climate science has never read anything written by a climate scientist, or has a stake in an industry that relies on destroying the planet to maintain its profitability. Googling "why global warming doesn't exist" does not make you informed.

>>743482116
oh, researching the other side of an argument doesn't make you informed?

you're right, this is a waste of time

For all you guys that believe in global warming, please explain the process. Don't just go on google and type in "how does global warming work". Don't say something stupid like "we're burning fossil fuels and its making the planet get hotter" or "we're melting the polar ice caps!", "Green house gases!". Explain, in depth, the actual scientific process to how you can even begin to think humans are causing the temperature of the earth to rise, how our atmosphere works, what proof do our activities have a direct impact versus weather patterns over the last 20,000 years, which exact activities are causing this "unnatural rise in heat", etc etc.

>>743479370
this picture speaks to me, it says: i'm the fucking shit checkem

>>743482285

That's not what I said, you seem a little rustled though. Is that something you've done? Do you really consider googling "why global warming doesn't exist" research? What level of education do you have?

>>743482471
BSc. General Science (majority physics)
B.ASc Civil Engineering

you?

and with the above I'm confident in saying that the university system is fairly flawed, and anything that comes out of it should be looked at with skepticism. especially when there's money and politics involved

>>743482317
No, you should prove hurricanes aren't intensifying, global temperatures aren't the highest, arctic sea ice isn't melting, CO2 hasn't increased in the atmosphere and Yahwey would stick his giant cartoon hand down and stop humans if we were actually fucking things up.

>>743482317

Do you need to be spoon fed information? Are you incapable of doing the work on your own? There are volumes of books out there that describe the process in detail. The problem with your argument is that this is not something that can be paraphrased in a few sentences, and this platform is never going to give the argument the breadth it needs to be understood. Nor do I believe you would give it the attention you're asking for if it's longer than a paragraph. You can see it all the time here, someone makes the effort to explain something in enough detail to be coherent and the response is invariable "tl;dr" or "you expect me to read that?". Keep hiding behind your anonymous internet walls, showering everyone in your contrarian views. Enjoy the ecstasy that comes with embracing ignorance. Inb4 people call me a faggot for not typing like a retard in this post, or a flood "nice pasta".

>>743482755
prove something exists
"no u"

>>743482990
allthatshit.jpg and no argument

>>743480832
it was warming, out of that most recent ice age, at a pretty steady rate with a few small fluctuations. Then the industrial revolution happened, and people said hey, look at this pretty basic chemistry reaction that could result in a huge ramp-up in warming

Then it ramped up by about a million percent.

Then people whose jobs it is to study it said hey, it ramped up by a million percent, this is going to fuck up agriculture and all the other systems we have that rely on the world being fairly stable

Then a few companies with outdated business models put out disinformation campaigns saying nuh-uh they're all lying to you

Then a politician said hey, it ramped up by a million percent and is going to fuck things up and these few shitty old companies are acting irresponsibly

Then you responded, nuh uh

Then the companies eventually said, yeah actually its fucked, but we're investing in the new shit now

Then your political party realized it'd have to admit it was fucking wrong as always on scientific matters, but since you are the party whose claim to moral superiority ironically requires you to attack someone rather than admitting you were ever wrong, means you fucking double down on your nuh-uh, even as decades more data pour in, all of which corroborates the shit you refuse to acknowledge

please, closeted homosexuals, tell us next about why evolution is a myth and the earth is at the center of the universe because the human god created all of time and space for us to be able to be as ignorant as we want to be and shit up everything we touch because what's really important at the end of the day is your need to feel like someone, even if they're imaginary, loves you. You saaad fuck.

>>743483220

https://lmgtfy.com/?q=books+on+climate+change

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>>743479370
>global warming
>coldest summer in a half century

>>743483361

>doesn't understand climate vs current temperature

i'm glad to see that the waterfilter salesman is doing good for himself after getting his followers to support trump and fuck themself over

>>743479903
While I agree with the substance or your post.
You have no idea what logic is.

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Climate scientists do not deny that there has been climatic change before. It's well-know that deniers trot out the fact that we had a "little ice age" a few hundred years ago.

What they try to point out and what deniers seem to miss is the rate of change, particularly in markers like CO2 levels, which we know is a greenhouse gas, and if you look at CO2 levels over the past 10,000 years you can see the concentrations increase dramatically at the time of the industrial revolution. And we know CO2 levels and global temperatures are linked, and with higher temperatures, ice melts and sea levels rise

"There has always been climate change" is not an argument for doing nothing

>>743479903
Because people who would profit from curbing fossil fuel use would have no reason to lie
>except money

>>743479370
Global warming numbers were proven to be skewed to favor a carbon tax and are false. Both MIT and the EPA support the evidence of false numbers

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>>743483305
>reddit spacing
>teenage vocabulary
>assuming my politics and religion for ad hominems

yeah, this is going nowhere. its been fun, but i have productive shit to do

>>743479496

>>743483693

yet here you are lol

>>743483660
Sshow the proof, then prove what it has to do with climate change

>>743479370
>global warming caused the hurricane

You're an idiot.

>>743482990
You're missing the point of that request. You will miss the point of many things in life

>>743479370
>global warming can't melt steel beams

>/thread

>>743479664
This

>>743483892

I understood the point of that request. You said "prove to me that climate change is real" then you proceeded to list all of the arguments that we aren't allowed to use to prove its existence. It was bait to try to get us to respond without using those things, and if we did, I'm sure you would have hollered fake news since it was one of the things you told us we couldn't use to prove it. Are you sure you got the point of your request? Or do you really think you're doing intelligent work here?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olJv2syNw9A

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/795481/Antarctica-nuclear-weapon-space-UFO-climate-weather-control-manipulation-scientists

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ultimate-weapon-of-mass-destruction-owning-the-weather-for-military-use-2/5306386

Man-made climate "change" by *the* Man.

Huracanes are caused by land mass/ ocean mass ratio and oceanic currents, you should inform yourself before posting made up shit.

Also the global warming theory is also fake, look up ClimateGate, also Im a geologist let's not enter in millankovitch cycles or positive/negative feedback.

>>743484282
right, and it would have remained a category 2, but drumpf removed all coal regulations 6 months ago which has already fucked up the atmosphere enough to allow cat4 and cat5 hurricanes to easily form.

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>>743484278

Crack the sky

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>>743484282
>uses word 'also' 3x in one sentence
>cannot be taken seriously

>>743479370
I think we need to focus on Michelle Obama's penis

>>743484035
That was not the point of the request. Requesting information is for internal reflection, not for repetition of handed down information. Have you considered your information is as cheap as the information on the other side? Or that your new age information given to you by scientific study is a repeat of religious history and rise to power. The science you believe in, the books you read, the articles given to you, are no different than the methods of religion. You wouldn't consider it because you are living the generation current with that information. But all future generations look back on the past and wonder why everyone was so ignorant. My point was to see if there was an original thought on why anyone might think global warming exists, not to deny it or start an argument.

>>743479370
What the fuck does hurricane has to do with imaginary ''global warming'' you idiot?Hurricanes exist since ever
Damn Libtards are ignorant

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>>743484427
>unironically saying 'drumpf'

>>743484282

With all of the climate change denying arguments against listening to scientists as a fallacy of appealing to authority, what compelled you to go with "also Im a geologist"?

I'm pretty sure that anyone that cruises this board cannot speak intelligently about the climate change push

liberals being fear mongers.

Fearing Nazis and climate change, LOL

>>743484993
Nazis aren't feared, they are punched.

>>743484675

The same could be said for either side, it's childish to imply that it's the side that you're not on. I have considered both sides of the argument. If we accept climate change and work towards limiting our input the worst case scenario is we have cleaner air and more reliable forms of energy. All we gain from denying it is more money in the pockets of those invested in our current fuel industries. Tell me, what exactly do you GAIN from denying climate change? Or is it just a matter of winning the argument?

>>743479370
OP still a faggot

>>743482317
'DURR SCIENCE BUT WITH NO SCIENCE PLAS'
Wait for good weather.
Dig two holes. Cover one with a light bit of plastic (shopping bag) and the other with a dark one (binbag.)
Leave them for an hour. Stick a hand in each.
Cunt.

>>743479714
sad

>>743479370
zee germans

>>743479903
sad

Genuine question for Alex Jones listeners. I used to listen to him for years and I dig the whole question the gov/politicians, etc., but why does he support Trump?

He's doing the same thing he hated the "establishment" Republicans for, with W Bush sending troops to the middle east, militarization of police (from his Police State documentaries), and the general idea of giving more authority to law enforcement and expansion of military and diminution of domestic civil liberties. He supports Trump's decisions when they're more and more like H.W. Bush/Clinton/W. Bush/Obama's policies, which is to literally expand on what his predecessor had done. I specifically remember a video of him at a communist rally where he tries to ask some questions to a man about a sign that says "Bush/Kerry=More Wars" and he says he agrees with that, that those two DO equal more wars. But isn't that what he's supporting in Trump, with the whole expansion of everything government?

Did I miss something here? In my view, he's supporting someone who is following the same globalist/megabank/police state mindset he shunned the previous presidents for.

>>743481145
sure kid

zee Nazis are coming for us LETS PROTEST FREEDOM OF SPEECH TO FIGHT THEM

>>743484993

>liberals being fear mongers

when did our wall building, muslim banning, "violence on many sides", fake news screeching president become liberal? i mean since he's switched to being conservative to get elected.

>>743482116
you wonder why.

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>>743479370
>global warming denier

>>743485334
trump isnt a globalist or politician. hes from the outside.

>>743485437
Yes he is from the outside, and outsider, if you will, but he's doing the same thing as the globalists and politicians before him.

>>743485437
Yeah newt gingrich told me so, one of the illuminati lapdogs

Fuck off nobody is saying climate change isnt real what is disputed is if humans have a large forprint on it and it is so far impossible to prove humans have a large impact on climate change.

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>>743479903
"Yes do as I say and not as I do. Stop driving your cars, trucks, and SUVs, ride bikes instead. Your homes should not use power for 12 hours out of each day. Yes my mansion is lit up every day of the year, even though I only stay there 3 months out of the year, but don't worry about that. I bought carbon credits from myself, so it's all good. Yes I fly a private Boeing 767 to my climate change events, but again, I bought carbon credits for myself. Sure I can use a much smaller private jet, but I need to be comfortable and well rested, so that I can warn people about the impending dangers."

>>743483547
We haven't been measuring CO2 levels for ten thousand years so i don't see how anyone can claim what the levels were.

>>743485786
>how do ice core samples work
>what does a mass spectrometer do

>>743485869
Bullshit! You can't tell gas levels from ice faggot.

>>743485437

Trump is trying to run the country like a business. Surprise, the country isn't a business.

Trump is forced to run the country like a politician. Surprise, he's just like every conservative "swamp" politician that came before him, or worse.

It doesn't matter if he was different when he was on the outside, he's the same now that he's on the inside.

>>743484675
Please show me where immaculate conception was tested with the scientific method. How about Jesus rising from the dead, surelythey verified this somehow?
The difference between science and religion is that religion is based on some idiotic concept of unconditional faith while scientific views can change and develop as new information is discovered. You saying the process are the same for both only shows that your understanding of either is extremely limited at best.

>>743484443
Phillip McCracken

>>743483361
>climate
>vs
>weather
>what are they even

>>743484427
this.

I can guarantee that this disaster wouldn't be nearly has big, had Hillary been president. Things would have been much differently under her watch.

>>743483574
Who profits from switching to green energy? Early investors? So what? Better than those oil/coal industry faggots that want/fight for the profit just as bad. After the switch, our society would be so much better anyway. I'm an engineer and I've bought and installed a wind turbine and some solar panels at my house. It's fucking badass. Have barely had to pay for any power off the grid in months, and since I just bought the product it wasn't even that expensive. $15k for a pet project (that I could've bought in parts if I was a poorfag) and now I don't rely on anyone to supply me power. This shit is built to last, so it'll pay for itself eventuality too, just in power costs, even tho it's already paying for itself in how I no longer suckle anyone's teat.

The "no pollution" thing is just a bonus. I thought you faggots prized shit like being self sufficient. The more people who buy green, the cheaper it'll get, too.

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>>743479370
Global temp's rising faster than the water in Houston, nigga

>>743479664
The sun failed to heat the earth during the last ice age. Therefore, the sun will never swell to consume the entire Earths orbit a few billion years from now.
Yes, you sound that fucking stupid.

>>743479370
The earth has been going in heat/ cooling cycles for millions of years.. worry more about a cooling cycle.

>>743486236
> a 120 year snapshot out of billions of years can tell me stuff

I'm just waiting for the ocean to become acidic enough to kill off all the krill. Once the base of that food web is dead, everything else comes crashing down. Bye bye 90% of ocean life and then land based life follows. I honestly wish all life on Earth ends. The whole of Earth doesn't deserve life because of the abomination called man it created. Earth should never get the chance to create another intelligent species again. Life itself is a collossal failure because it produced us.
The end can't come soon enough.

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>>743486318
GO AWAY FACTS! YOU NO TELL ME STUFF!

>>743486318
>what are ice cores
Nigger are you 12? We have a fucking accurate record going back gorillions of years now

>>743486318
well memed faggot

>>743485934
but there are tiny air bubbles trapped in the ice that are representative of the gaseous makeup of the entire planet. and these tiny bubbles can be picked out and tested accurately enough to base energy policy on

this is what global warming advocates actually believe

>>743486318
So looking outside to see if it's raining can't tell you anything because it's just a snapshot of the weather. lol@U stupid.

>>743486644
People far smarter than you know shit you don't understand. That's what you're having such a hard time with, anon.

>>743486635
Ice cores have shown that we are not increasing in long term averages, and scientists agree that solar cycles have had the biggest impact on the long term temperature fluctuations. We are currently well within the norm according to the ice core samples. Also the warmest period recorded so far, predates man.

>>743486833
Warmest period known predates life. So what's your point?

>>743486833
wrong! they have shown everything to be very stead with little fluctuation with a few catastrophic exceptions, until the industrial revolution happened. then shit starts to increase more sharply than ever before in over 3 billion years.

>>743486545
120 years, 8 tenths of a degree difference. Ice core samples show much bigger swings than this, and before man walked the earth.

>>743486976
>they have shown everything to be very stead with little fluctuation
That's bullshit. Try again.

>>743479370
We haven't seen a hurricane of this magnitude since Bush was in office. Nothing like this under Obama, and now we have numbnuts, and this happens.

Coincidence? Nope!

>>743479370
he covered the hurricane more than cnn did

he isnt a climate denier, he just likes to point out the weather manipulation that is also going on

why al gore is a bitch

and NOAA data manipulation

>>743483361
Anon. Why. What did you do with the poor ladies nipples.

>>743487554
>he covered the hurricane more than cnn did
yeah um no....

>he isnt a climate denier, he just likes to point out the weather manipulation that is also going on
break out the tinfoil boys.

>and NOAA data manipulation
wew lad

---
i'll take "things that never happened for 100 alex".

>>743482317
>please explain the process
>please explain greenhouse effect

holy fuck are you legitimately mentally retarded, or just really good at pretending?

>>743487632
never mind the nips son, keep looking what else is missing?

>>743479370
the presidents hair implants

>>743479714
someone should put that on a protest sign

>>743479370
this seriously turned into a climate change is fake thread, lol. all you fuckers are going to fail hs

>>743483220
>everyone please take time out of your day to explain the most basic shit to me or the entire field of study doesn't exist

you're a lost cause, dumbfuck. no one cares that much about what you think that they're going to hold your hand through all that.

>>743485934
Yes, you can, and do.
And not just trapped in ice, but also trapped in volcanic rock, all over the globe, which corroborates those levels.

Nigga, you have no information, and others have a shitload of it. You're not on the winning side.

>>743488361
Climate change is real. The only argument is, is how much does mankind impact it.

Libs say: DRASTICALLY HOLY FUCK, OCEANS WILL RISE BY 2020 AND THERE WILL BE MASS CASUALTIES.

Conservatives say: It's not a critical problem and it is being politicized by the left so that they can create new taxes.

One or both are lying.

>>743486833
Nooope.
We're hot blooded. Check it and see.

>>743488682
I've got a fever, burning inside of me!

Alex Jones is from Austin...

>>743488666
LOL what a skewed observation of political opinion on climate change. tThe conservatives on this page are not saying "It's not a critical problem and it is being politicized by the left so that they can create new taxes." They're saying "SPOON FEED ME ALL THE INFORMATION THAT I'LL KEEP DENYING WHILE I CALL YOU A RETARD."

Excellent cherry pick though.

>>743488666
>lying
Or neither of them actually has the answer because neither has been to the future and reported back.

Libtards defer to scientists and mathematicians, who chart out how shit's destabilizing and calculate the likelihood of things getting increasingly worse, and propose actions to minimize the damage.

Republitards side with outdated marketing PR campaigns from Oil Companies that even those Oil Companies have abandoned, and propose throwing caution to the wind and seeing how bad it really gets.

One of these is a sane, rational, responsible, conservative approach going forward. One of these is a fucking reckless shitshow of stupidity.

>>743489179
Trump has been to the future. His family has a time machine.

>>743487256

/thread

>>743489395

thanks for the bump

>>743479370
Humans actually think they can affect the Earth? Always been arrogant fucks, but really? This planet has been here enduring abuse for billions of years and we think we can come along and fuck it up so easy? Please. This Earth could shake us off like a bad case of fleas and within a blink of an eye on the evolutionary scale Earth would maybe.... maybe still have some plastic around. That's about fucking it. Stop crying about the environment you absolute retards.

>>743483547
No one denies that, but what is that contributing towards climate change of now and no one can answer that so we can't fix a problem that we can't scale.