I was at work earlier and didn't get to see! Wtf did Jesus

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>>743312128
/thread

>>743312773
preach it

>>743312128
>>743312773
shouldn't his text be backwards since we're standing behind him?

>>743312867
that's not how abstraction works.

>mind games are the work of Satan

>>743311119
You dispshits at /pol/ are letting your memes slide now. This jpg needs more pixels faggot.

Also the wealthy white land-owning male romans killed jesus. Jesus. A man who hung out with a Jewish prostitute, and preached socialism.

Try harder

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>>743311119
The referenced verse is there in the bottom right hand corner.

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>>743313799
Nope he was HEBREW! Half the tribe of Judah and half Levite. All Jews are Hebrew not all Hebrews are Jews.

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>>743311119

>>743314268
Charity, not socialism.

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>>743314513
No true Jews were the Chosen race, but Hitler killed off the vast majority if them. Today we are left with pretenders to the throne read Revelation 2:9 or 3:9 those claiming to be jews are for the most part not jewish by blood or by faith but are liars who only claim to be Jewish. Still we are told not to harm them for fear we might actually harm one of the very few remaining true or sephardic jews.

>lrn2bible.avi

>>743314268
>implying it wasnt the jews who ratted him out

>>743311119
Those were kikes, Islam didn't exist until like the 6th or 7th century

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>>743314875
It wasn't, it was liars who only CLAIMED to be jewish. They were in fact the offspring of the first murderer Cain.

"McGregor will win within four rounds."

>>743314835

shove your kike propaganda up your ass

>>743314999
Trips of truth.

>>743312851
amen brother

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>>743315011
Not "Kike", Christian.

Because they do not love the truth, they are given over to the lie.

>>743314994
This is the same exact bullshit with socialism and mudslimes.

>Every socialist attempt failed
Yeah but that wasnt true socialism!

>Terrorist attacks were done by muslims
Yeah but they aren't real muslims

>Kikes ratted Jesus out
Yeah but they weren't real Jews!

Kill yourself

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>>743315314
Nope just bringing you the exact words of the Bible I even quoted you the verses.

True Jews most often would now be called Christians as they recognized the Lord and claimed Hosanna! The liars in the crowed and that is exactly what the Bible called them are later defined in Revelation 2:9. As I already said.

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>>743314444
qquadsssssss""!!!!!!

otoh, good argument

>>743314268
Dune coons are low rez.

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>>743315561
I got ya.

>>743315314
Do you speak for the entire retard demographic?

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>>743315775
Yep that pretty much covers it. Her sin wasn't eating apples. It was boinking the devil. Which is why her curse was not indigestion, but instead birth pains. The punishment fits the crime.

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>>743316006
Wrong pic.

>>743316095
I lol'd.

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>>743316099
Your sources look solid and reliable.

>>743316095
But without the knowledge of right and wrong gained by eating the apple, how could she have known it was wrong to do so?

>>743311119
"I'm white. You're all niggers and jews. So naturally, I am your god."

>>743316058
if i was you probably wouldn't ask

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>>743316286
Sher did not eat apples. Not in any way shape or form. She swallowed the lies told by the devil. She realized she was wrong after the sex act when the guilt set in. Do not be fooled by the "Teachings and traditions of men that make void the word of God." The quote there is how God describes religion which is more interested in profit then in the words of the prophets.

>>743316553
But how could have she felt guilt if she didn't know it was wrong.

>>743316553
But why would Voldemort not just kill Harry as a child?

This is some gay hippi bullshit going on here.

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>>743316286
It's a little more complicated than that.
>>743313821

'Oh one last thing..... If a sandnigger comes along in 600 years claiming to me be don't believe him. He is a child molester and has a 6 yo wife'

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>>743316726
She felt guilt when she sinned.
As does any child who has become self aware. We all learn right from wrong instinctively especially after we actually do some thing wrong.

>>743316747
He tried the Avera Cadavera spell rebounded on him and destroyed him. If not for the horcruxes he would have perished completely.

What you do not think I read anything and every thing at hand including Ms Rowlings wonderful fiction??

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>>743317108
Oh huh I forgot about that.

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>>743312773
>>743312851
>>743315135
Y'all niggas know what's up

Best fallouts in order
1. New vegas
2. Fallout three
3. fallout two
4. Fallout one
5. Fallout four
6. Fallout tactics

>>743317430

Rollicking comedy by ego maniacal nerd. ALready read it.

>>743317072
>claiming to be me
um...

when did mohammed claim to be jesus? also, jesus was a "sandnigger"

>>743314994
Thats not true at all. I see you dont know your bible very well.

>>743317431
>one
Ishiggydiggy

>>743317620
The Satanic Bible?

PS Voldemort is the devil.

>>743312128
This!

>>743317834
It was just to reference I know it wasn't necessary but I felt some niggas don't get implications.

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>>743317859

Yep. Nonsense. Only a little less funnier than the Xtian bible.

>>743317966
Let me ask you this anon:
Did the flood (RE Noah) kill all but the people in the boat?

Do you believe this?

>>743317108
Lol, this is a christian thread now i guess, atheists out

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>>743317826
I do in fact know it very well better then some who wear funny hats. I am not here to fill pews or collect tithes. I simply offer you the truth and wish you peace. In the spirit of our Lord and Savior. May you seek and find the truth.

>>743318108
i need a cap like that.

>>743314779
Haha

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>>743318156

you want truth? DNA, that's truth. to deny that all mammals, all living things actually, are closely related because it makes Xtians butthurt is not truth. Its blinder over the eyes time.

>>743318156
answer this >>743318040

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>>743318040
Not that Anon, but no the flood was meant to destroy the Gheber the half breed offspring of fallen Angels (Genesis 6:4) Creatures that threatened to destroy the Hebrew people of whom Christ was to one day be born. God defended them. The flood was local to the middle east much the same as the epic of Gilgamesh and mankind and the Hebrews were NOT the intended targets.

>>743318467
Yeah I want that anon to answer.

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>>743318089
I simply share the truth I have no desire to run anyone off. The atheists are welcome to debate me. If they should so desire, but I do not debate the wisdom of being skeptical.

>>743313476

Underrated

>>743318571
There's no debate. Creationism is nonsense.

>>743317108
Is it wrong to kill?

Is it wrong to kill a witch?

How about an unbeliever?

>morality is a subjective social construct

>>743314675
If only we could put our charity in some sort of pot, and elect some one to hand out the pot...

Naw fuck it. I want to support the poor white people. Fuck everyone else.

>>743318040
No he brought along a bunch of people to rebuild society. People who weren't pure in their generations as Noah was. Craftsmen and sratesmen who carried the mystery religion taught to Eve past the flood era. Kind of like Tubal-Cain sneaking aboard the ark in the Russell Crowe movie.

I wonder if owning other people as property is approved in the bible?
you know, like passing them down to your children

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>>743318325
I have not said otherwise.

In fact the Hebrew word for RIB in Genesis could be from tsala'; a rib (as curved or helix shaped) Perhaps because DNA is helix shaped? Some mysteries will await us when we die.

>>743318387
I did... Here >>743318467

>>743318962
>pure in their generations

What the HELL does that mean? You mean Noah was a jew, right? Pure jew. Does that give him super powers or something?

>>743312773
>not 1

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>>743318558
That's up to him or her but I was asked to answer too. >>743318387

Jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams

>>743318962
So someone added to the genesis story? Did god approve the edit?

"The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them."

Sounds like he was determined to kill everyone. So if everyone but Noah, his wife, his 3 sons and their wives, all living things were destroyed.

If thats the case Cains lineage died out too.

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>>743318682
Not at all.

Science has some things right and is allowed to clarify their answers as more information becomes available. Sadly for some reason the Bible is not afforded the same respect. Course I still blame the guys who wear the funny hats.

>>743318325
Again, I'll bring up the Noah movie. The creation story could have happened very literally. Sitchin was trying to tell people that for like 40 years.

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>>743318907
The bible says we should not Murder. Killing is left to the estate of men in governance. I would not do it, but I do not feel worthy to enforce the law. I leave that to them.

In our hearts we all know right from wrong as evidenced when a child is wronged and declares "That's not fair" You KNOW when you wrong another.

>>743319254
see
>>743317966
>>743315775
and
>>743318467

>>743319433
>this is the book of the generations of Noah
It's a summary.

>>743319482
>Sadly for some reason the Bible is not afforded the same respect.

Because its a static treatise on a theology and philosophy. Its based on notions and traditions and idealistic views of reality, not provable fact. Don't be an idiot. If you want to be religious be religiious. But don't be sad that Science doesn't support an ancient book of fables. Deal with it for what it is, a book of fables.

I know a few scientists who have reconciled their faith with science. You should do the same. Taking the bible as literal truth is just insanity.

For example; the is no way the earth is 6000 (or 11000, depending on your reading) years old. That's simply fantasy if you believe that.

>>743319526
>Again, I'll bring up the Noah movie.

And again, I'll say no, There is waaay to much proof against you.

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>>743319710
>fairness
Primates, Dogs, Even Wild Wolves display an inherent sense of 'fairness'...this "fairness" means that the alpha eats first and most...this is the natural state of 'justice' and 'fairness' and the rudimentary basis for "morality"

You are no better than a dog or a chimp.

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>>743319254
Not that Anon but Noah was Hebrew but his tribe within that was never defined. Being a "True Jew" Simply meant they would be part of the blood line Christ was one day to be born of.

It no longer matters as Christ WAS born and that part of prophecy was fulfilled.

>>743319834
>see (blah and blah)

Read it. cover to cover. Several times. Wrote papers on it. That, and other religious books.

>>743319482
Kind of, ackshually. With the discovery of Egyptian and Babylonian histories about 150 years back, the gaps have been gradually filled in. Takes a lot of work and faith to reconstruct it all in a way that still supports a Christian mindset.

>>743316811
Ikr like why even argue with strangers on the internet

>>743320001
It no longer matters as Christ WAS born...

A jew. You know what Jesus is referred to as "Rabbi" more than once in the Gospels.

>>743320001
"Noah was a Hebrew".

What a faggot.

There were no Hebrews until Abraham

>>743319913
Youtube Crowe's retelling of the creation story from that movie and you'll see what I'm talking about.

>>743320001
Wasn't he born of the lineage of Seth?

>>743319482
>the infallible word of god

>needs to be updated when newer information becomes available

Then it's not infallible, and if it's not infallible, then it's not the 'word of god'

QED

God died aeons ago

how many other than Jesus and Lazarus were raised from the dead?

>>743320212
I am not going to take some artistic portrayal as truth.

>>743320212

I know what you're talking about!! And that's a MOVIE!! A FUCKING MOVIE! You're asking me to take some kind of proof about anything from a MOVIE??? ARE YOU INSANE???

You're standing on a creaking ledge and you keep arguing nonsense. You, sir, are a fool.

>>743319710
>kids say 'it's not fair' when they don't get their way, conflating fairness with you being pleased at outcomes is Trump level baby talk.
>>743319964
>using animals to resort to the nature rationalisation of his 'alpha' larping Ayn Rand horseshit
get some sun on ya

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>>743319433
Poor translations. It is a good idea to read the 3 letters at the beginning of any reprint of the 1611 KJV of the Bible. In them the translators apologize to Laity Clergy and King for their limited understanding of slang and other terms that were beyond their understanding.

There have been far better translations of the Bible made, and it still remains only enough for salvation and not the entire History of mankind. Many books were omitted and belong where as much of what Paul wrote should be in a separate book of collected works and not declared to be the "Word of God"...

>>743320008
So you know that some people had/have demonic blood. Noah didn't.

>>743320414
>Poor translations.

But you derps keep saying its the infallible word of God. How can a mere translation make error of it?

>>743320336
Sitchin wrote nonfiction and was saying the same thing almost half a century prior. Art imitates reality, dummy.

>>743319964
>You are no better than a dog or a chimp.
awwww has nobody ever treated you well? Or did you maybe not notice?
Pretty much 96% of all humans are 'better' than dogs or chimps, spend some time observing chimps to work this out.

>should be in a separate book of collected works

It is. It's call the Apocrypha.

>>743320400
You can disagree that animals have a sense of 'justice' and this 'justice' dictates that the pack leader dictates the morality of the group.

You'd be objectively wrong, but you can still disagree

>>743320441
>So you know that some people had/have demonic blood. Noah didn't.

I know no such thing. Demons are fictions, as is the bible. To make such a claim (some people have demonic blood) without tangible proof is more of your religious foolishness.

Of what nature is this "demonic blood"? What type is it? Type O +demonic?

>>743320304
Fundies are funny, sure. Jesus is still God, though.

>>743320541
>Sitchin
Oh fuck me -THAT Sitchin?
Why not the chariot of the gods...

>>743320375
Dude calm your tits.

>>743320825
Oh, I'm calm. If my typing frightens you GO AWAY.

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>>743320588
Social Primate behaviour and Human Behaviour have many parallels. Almost as if we share a common ancestor.

>>743320676
Are you really trying to discredit the story behind a biblical figure by saying that it's all fake and gay? Try harder.

>>743320995

Our DNA is 98% similar, so there's that.

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>>743320588
Dogs and primates have "alpha males". So do MuriKKKans. Normal humans don't.

>>743320709
Von Daniken had his specialization. Sitchin was more comprehensive. Especially regarding comparative theology.

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>>743321058

>...by saying that it's all fake and gay? Try harder.

>>743314835
What the hell are you talking about? I've hear versions of this but never that Hitler killed of most of them. Hitler killed relatively few Sephardim. There are still like 5 million in the world. So I'm confused, or is this just bait?

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>>743319853
>the is no way the earth is 6000 (or 11000, depending on your reading) years old.


That is a tradition of men and NOT a claim of the Bible itself. The word Havaya should have been translated as BECAME not WAS.

The book says "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth and the Earth WAS void." Yet all eleven other times that Havaya was used in the bible it was translated as BECAME. It should have been BECAME all 12 times.

So it SHOULD say: "In the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth and the Earth BECAME void." The implication being that the Earth already existed and God destroyed it all to start over. Torah calls this event "tuhu eh vuhu" "The great destruction" This is the event that made Dinosaurs extinct. Iy was an earlier and entirly different event from Noah's flood. Becasue of that wording we can infer that the Earth is very old Millions or perhaps Billions of years old. In fact God said to the Prophet Isaiah "I CREATE NOTHING to be void" Further emphasizing the fact.

And many things in the book can be taken literally when we do the work to properly understand and translate it. Certainly Lucifer was not an actual snake in the Garden but he behaved in dishonest and shady or despicable ways. We still call such folks "Snakes in the grass" even today.

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>>743320911
Your mind sure isn't if you don't unerstand that ideas are relayed through art and entire generations are being raised that wouldn't pick up a book if it had money bursting from its binding.

>>743318264
More like this

>>743321192
Just come out of the closet already.

>>743320285
Kek

reading Zecharia Sitchin is like reading the National Enquirer

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>>743319964
The term alpha has been debunked by the very author who coined it. (Rudolph Schenkle 1947)
http://io9.gizmodo.com/why-everything-you-know-about-wolf-packs-is-wrong-502754629 You are far more ignorant then either of them (dogs or chimps) too.

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>>743320676
Wow. All the billions over the ages and all the universities, hospitals, orphanages, hospices built on a lie? MLK,Jr...moron? Wow, im so lucky to find a scholar such as yourself on /b/. My lucky day!

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>>743320163
And I have answered that matter already.
Here
>>743320414


There are no apples in the book nor rapture as a concept or a word but many foolish religious men parrot the terms still today. Ignorance is not the soul domain of just atheists. Religious folks are prone to it too.

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>>743321521
Dude was a genius and was responsible for thousands of groundbreaking discoveries.

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>>743320507
I do not say it. Even in this thread I explain that there are errors. Some by the Counsel of Nicaea, Some by Paul some by the translators. Sometimes the Authors changed the names of places and people just to protect their own lives or to prevent Kings from destroying the copies of the word because they were disparaged in it.

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>>743320676
Ashekenazi if you must know.

The Son's of Cain.

Genesis 6:4 says that demons are real.
Revelation says that all mankind will be fooled by one and bow to the devil calling him "lord" mistaking him for the return of Christ. You see Anti Christ will not be a human he will be in his full angelic form and many who do not pay attention will mistake him for another. (and quite possibly in OUR life times.)

>>743322108
This. Both of us have been adamant about the issue. He's one of those antichristian trolls that just sticks to his handful of talking points.

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>>743321244
I have explained it several times in this very thread. Return to top of page and reread. I will not answer the same thing eight times because you wish to skim a thread and comment before you have finished it all. If it helps nearly all my post are accompanied by images of the cross.

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>>743317759
I meant Mohammad claimed to be a messenger from God dumbass

he said sans is ness

yay jesus

>>743314444
Okay. Whatever you say. Any other mythical deities to comment on?

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>>743324010
>mythical
Oh ye of little faith.

Be sure to read this >>743322436

I still care enough about you that you should be forewarned.

>>743314444

It is clear from the gospels that Jesus had a reputation as a Jewish rabbi (Mark 14:45; John 1:38). Peter (in Mark 9:5) and Mary Magdalene (in John 20:16) both referred to Jesus as “Rabbi.” Moreover, the Jewish ruler Nicodemus thought that this title was appropriate for Jesus: “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him” (John 3:2). Elsewhere, we see Jesus referred to as “Teacher” (Mark 5:35).

Jesus was a Jew.

>>743324177
Mhmm.

>>743324371

AND... he was most likely circumcised.

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>>743324371
Jew and Levite. Half of each accepted by neither.

The blood of Kings (Judah) and Priests (Levi). Rabbi is simply meaning "Teacher" as you say, it did not imply heritage. I stand by my words.

>>743324531
Verily and Amen.

Th only "proof" that Jesus ever existed is the Bible. I write a book that says God is a giant pickle rotting out in an orbit around Saturn and everyone fluffs me off.

Bury it in the sand for 2000 years though and we have a new religion.

ALL HAIL THE MASTER PICKLE.

>>743324659
We are all now thinking of Jesus's penis. Thanks :/

>>743324777
>Jew and Levite. Half of each accepted by neither.

Oh, he was plenty accepted. The Levites only had a problem with him when he started claiming to be the son of God, which stepped on their toes as the only tribe recognized as official priests.

>>743324834
Umm... no.

>>743325019
Present that proof then. I'd like to see/learn about it.

>>743325110
The only record of anything like Jesus from the Romans MIGHT be reports out of Judea during the reign of Claudius that there was a man claiming to be the son of God, but he's not mentioned by name and there were a number of Jewish prophets claiming the same thing at the time.

What the fuck is WRONG with you idiots????

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>>743324834
Plenty of external proof.

The writings of Pontius Pilate for example.

Problem is too many "learned" men seek the name Jesus of which J is not a letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Yet when one seeks Yeshhua ben Yosef many more writings appear.

>>743325019
Umm, yes.

>>743325516
No! Stop making things up. There are no writings of Pilate. The only proof of Pilates mere existence is a rock they found with his name on it. There is no empirical data, there is no proof.

>>743325564
Dude no.
>buried for 2000 years
Just... no.

>>743325516
That's from the bible. There's nothing independant from that bible you can point to that says Pilate wrote anything about Jesus. Again, apart from the bible, there's nothing.

>>743325674
My gf does pilates every morning so stfu.

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>>743325777
>independant

>>743325777
He quiet because he's shocked and thinking... he knows I'm right..

>>743325728
Yeah, just yeah. When people find ancient texts that claim divinity they believe it. Why?

People want to know why they exist. They have questions about the world and themselves that they can't answer. They look for answers to these questions or they make them up themselves. The bible was written by people, not a god, and DEFINITELY not historians.

Also, if you can't question your faith in any real way and then still come back to it and believe it, YOU are the fool.

The only wise man is the one who admits they know nothing.

>>743319482
> Science has some things right and is allowed to clarify their answers as more information becomes available.
One of the things science has right is that creationism is nonsense.

> Sadly for some reason the Bible is not afforded the same respect.
Sure it is. Anyone can soak a Bible in lighter fluid and light it on fire.

Also, the fact that Jesus was so obviously a Jew through and through always shakes 'em up.

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>>743325674
Lee Strobel would beg to differ.
An atheist and investigative reporter. Who set out to debunk the faith. As his wife is religious. And instead has validated fact after fact.

Simply untrue.
http://wesley.nnu.edu/sermons-essays-books/noncanonical-literature/noncanonical-literature-writings/the-letter-of-pontius-pilate-which-he-wrote-to-the-roman-emperor-concerning-our-lord-jesus-christ/

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/lbob/lbob29.htm

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/fathers/view.cfm?recnum=1894

http://owen_eir.tripod.com/pilatetext.html

>>743325516
You're proving your own point. Any bible you read will be riddled with mistranslations, misinterpretations, and straight up created parable.

The bible is in no way whatsoever a historical document. It only is if you're using it to examine the folklore of the area and time.

>>743326034
"Contrary to popular belief, assuming only makes an ass out of you."
- Me

>>743325937
Calling someone stupid for a misspelling doesn't make you in any way on the higher side of an argument.

Man created god. God didn't create man. Get over it.

>>743326034
This.

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>>743325516

If life seems jolly rotten
There's something you've forgotten
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing
When you're feeling in the dumps
Don't be silly chumps
Just purse your lips and whistle - that's the thing
And...

>>743326512
I didn't call you stupid. What's rattling around in that profound mind of yours, anon?

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>>743326414
Exactly right, as in the burden of proof lies with the believers.

Pic related.

>>743326414
That.

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>>743326183
Science makes no such claim it would violate the basic principles. Vis a vie: sci·ence
ˈsīəns/
noun
noun: science

the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
"the world of science and technology"

No one here on Earth today "observed" creation.

Your next comment was verbal flatulence at best.

>>743326656
It wasn't me who you replied to. I replied to you replying to someone else.

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>>743326512
Ian Anderson got it right then.

>>743326723
Pearls, swine, etc. QM answers a lot of questions regarding free will and the nature of the holy ghost, though.

>>743326315

Sure, and there's plenty of other who've done the reverse. That there's some people out there who don't really know how science works and find their "faith" isn't enough for me.

Still not seeing any proof for Jesus outside the bible.

That really throws your brainpan in a tizzy, doesn't it?

>>743326820
I still never called anyone stupid. That was all you.

>>743314268
>"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's."

>>743314268
>Also the wealthy white land-owning male romans killed jesus.

Whatever. The bible says the Levites killed him, so, not sure where you're getting your facts.

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>>743326369
It is not a historical document and I made no such claim. It is the work of 66 Authors, 70 books selected by other men, that can accomplish salvation, and is best compared to a primary school boys primer.

>>743327129

You know there's more books than the canonical 70 that are in the King James bible, right?

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>>743326933
Not looking is not "not seeing". Willful ignorance is a problem extremists on both sides of the argument suffer from.

I am out of images of the cross switching to parrots/birds.

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Half the people ITT.

It doesn't look like the non-christians in this thread are being dicks this time.

It looks like the christians can't man up and say it's just faith, and that there isn't proof.

I'm not even atheist, I just don't actually know, because no one does.

You'll be a better person if you guys would admit that.

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>>743311119

>>743327366

Not presenting evidence contrary to what I've been saying is my "not seeing"?? You're positing the contrary position, the burden of proof is on you my friend.

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>>743327225
Yes, but we were talking specifically of the Bible not the Apocrypha etc.

Though the Book of Thomas is a particular favorite of mine.

>>743327409
You can suck my Jesus dicks, faggot.

>>743326891
Well, it's a god tier album.

That PROVES the existence of god

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>>743327519
No if you make the originating claim you must provide the proof. That is if you are OP? I am certainly NOT op.

Course most of my early comments include reference scripture's. The "complaint" that "The bible is not proof" is an issue again that those who make that claim must deal with. I debate what the bible says or does not say. I debate the false traditions of men in funny hats. I do not debate Christs divinity etc some things you just have to decide yourself. But I stands solidy by my comments that say Such things as Jesus did exist just not under the name JESUS. Apples or eating "Fruit" are not original sin. Rapture is a lie that does not by words or concepts exist in the Bible. And again most of my posts are accompanied by images of the cross (now birds) do not mistake others words as mine.

>>743314939
Arabs are still arabs even if they're not Muslim. .

>>743328043
not op. asking for proof outside of bible for jesus.

produce.

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>>743328043

>>743328043
>The bible is not proof" is an issue again that those who make that claim must deal with.

Logically incorrect.

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>>743328693
Already did. Do you read a thread from top to bottom or just skim for stuff you agree to disagree with?

Here is your home work kid.

>>743326315

>>743328908
If your saying the bible is "A", and I'm saying !A (not A), its up to you to prove the bible is "A".

Sorry, but that's how logic works, since the Greeks. Proven by math.

>>743328908
Piss off

>>743329021
Where is it? Where is this proof you've offered? Haven't it seen it yet, and I've been quite attentive.

>>743329140
still not proof. try again,

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>>743329146
Apparently not, 3 links there for the perusing.

>>743329021

This video bullshit is your proof???

LOL

Pontius Pilate wrote of Jesus in his letters to his peers and superiors. The letters can be found online. They are part of the historical record. Read and weep .

>>743329354
Looked at them. You're offering that bullshit for proof of jesus?? you're an idiot, or you didn't watch them.

>>743329441

Show me the links.

>>743329200
> Nah nah! I am gong to be contrary no matter how many times you point me at the truth.

Perhaps some sports news is more your speed?

>>743311119
Trap's aren't gay

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>>743311119

>>743329455
You talking about this??

http://www.sacred-texts.com/bib/lbob/lbob29.htm

>>743329574
Wrong bucko. i'm researching the "writing of pontus pilate youre talking about. It takes time to search this shit.

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>>743329534
He should not have to. I already provided the links. You 3? Keep rejecting them.Go get a real hobby and let the adults chat for awhile now.

>>743329455
>>743329377
>>743329534
>>743329793

TLDR Get away from me kid you bother me.

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>>743314835

>>743329886

I'm providing my own links. Most of this appears to be rubbish and isn't part of the Xtian cannon anyway (which means its not accepted as fact.)

This page discusses the letter from Pilate to Herod and its authenticity:

https://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/55335/authenticity-of-the-pontius-pilates-letter-to-tiberius-caesar

>>743329886
>Keep rejecting them.Go get a real hobby and let the adults chat for awhile now.

Fact of the matter is that I've studied religion, its been a bit of a hobby of mine. "Kid"

There are no accepted proofs of Jesus' existence. The stuff you're pointing to is very very thin and no scholars accept these as fact.

Sorry, kiddo.

>>743329886
>Get away from me kid you bother me.
People who make unsupported claims bother me.

Also people who argue that Jesus was not a jew when their own book clearly says he was.

>>743330389
More:

would say probable forgery. First searching for the letter before a link/source was added revealed at least 3 letters, each is written differently:

Letter of Pilate to Tiberius 1 - Unable to verify by finding an image of the original Greek manuscript
Letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar - mentions Copies are in the Congressional Library in Washington, D.C. but initial searches reveal nothing, and some sites say mention:

"The Library of Congress has received a number of inquiries over the years about a purported letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar concerning Jesus Christ. The Library does not have such a letter in its collections".

Fraud by Pilate Letter - although this seems to be claiming the letter is false (I google translated it), the text of this letter is unique from the other two. This also mentions a fiction book, Letters of Pontius Pilate, published in 1928 which may be the basis for many of the supposed letters that mention Jesus
Historic Letter written by Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar - mentioned in OP question mentions it is in the British Museum but searches on that site and of the British Museum Library reveal nothing

I've found a supposed response from the British Museum

There are no surviving original letters by Herod or Pontius Pilate, to each other or to anyone else. Any manuscripts of them which do exist are forgeries or much later copies. A Syriac MS in the British Library Oriental Collections (reference number Add. 14609) contains a 6th or 7th Century copy of the letters.

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I am out..

http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/13.htm

For they have eyes, yet they can not see, and ears, yet they can not hear.

>>743329886

TO SUM UP:

You lose your argument.

Kid.

>>743330553

Your links lead to this:

>>743330505

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>>743330389
My answers were clear. Hebrew is the correct term. He was of the tribe of Judah and Levi as I have now answered several times and "my" book says only that a sign was placed on the cross above his head that made such a claim but HE never did.

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>>743330051
>cannon

>>743330794
>My answers were clear.

As have been mine. Jesus was a Jew, and there is no proof of his existence outside the bible.

Your refutation has been to call me a child.

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>>743317431
>rating fallout 3 above the originals
>fallout tactics at the bottom of the list

DIAF

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>>743330638
Yep some times you have to read beyond the experts who are not really experts claims.

I was trying to stick to biblical claims you demanded NON biblical proof. Perhaps this is not really a topic you should work on since your goal seems to be to disprove rather than to seek the truth no matter what it may be?

If you do not want to find proof or believe why bother in the first place?

Soon enough there will be super natural proof and you will bow to it only to find out later YOU WERE STILL WRONG in your own arrogance.

Wait for it/

>>743331097
>I was trying to stick to biblical claims

>I was trying to stick to biblical claims

Right. Of what use are those? Really? For proof you need more than one source. That's how proof works.

>>743331097

Then for proof you of Jesus' exitence outside the bible (or another xtian here) offer Pilates writings to herod and others. None of which can indepandantly verified. We also know that the middle ages was chock full of forged biblical antiguties.

So tell me ace, what an I refusing to "see"?

>>743314835
>Hitler killed off the vast majority if them
Um no sweety.

>>743331579

not even close. they breed like roaches.

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>>743330984
I did call you a child. You behave as one.

IO have said and shown sevweral times now that as prophecy claimed he would be and was of TWO tribes of Israel. Judah (Kings) and Levite (Priests) Judah was the tribe of Jacob or Israel that came to be called JEWS. Levi's was the Priest line and so would be called Hebrew as they were NOT sons or descendants of Judah. Christ was a half breed accepted by neither of those blood lines. I am fairly confident that since when he was asked "Are you King of the Jews?" He sarcastically replied "So you say!" That he would not have called himself a Jew. And thqat the tearing of the curtain in the temple was where God made clear that the rejection by his chosen pele was to be returned in kind. Especially when later in Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 he declares them to be liars who are of the synagogue of Satan.

Christ was Hebrew, Aramaic or perhaps even Semitic via being a Hebrew. Some Jews are HEBREWS not all HEBREWS are Jews. I repeat this for your benefit. After this? I will assume you are just being obstinate or contrary and your replies may be ignored.

One more link on Pilate's "writings"

https://www.jstor.org/stable/1560249?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

>>743331826
>I did call you a child. You behave as one.


Indeed. Because I call out your proof. Thus I am a child. Rubbish.

Argue like an adult. So far I'm not seeing it.

You wanna pray to a dead guy, do it!

You wanna tell me about your "proof"? We got problems.

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>>743331198
The Bible is 66 different sources written over thousands of years. And in numerous languages.

Your rejection is hereby rejected!

Good day Sir!

>>743331826
>Christ was Hebrew, Aramaic or perhaps even Semitic via being a Hebrew. Some Jews are HEBREWS not all HEBREWS are Jews.


Naw. He was a Jew. Just a jew. Accept it. Its in your own book. I showed the proof already. If you're late to the party here it is again:

"It is clear from the gospels that Jesus had a reputation as a Jewish rabbi (Mark 14:45; John 1:38). Peter (in Mark 9:5) and Mary Magdalene (in John 20:16) both referred to Jesus as “Rabbi.” Moreover, the Jewish ruler Nicodemus thought that this title was appropriate for Jesus: “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him” (John 3:2). Elsewhere, we see Jesus referred to as “Teacher” (Mark 5:35). According to John 1:38, Rabbi and Teacher are synonymous titles."

Plus: he was born in Roman Judea. Not too sure how much more proof you're willing to ignore.

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>>743332055
#win

>>743332055
>The Bible is 66 different sources written over thousands of years. And in numerous languages.

But its supposed to be the unerring word of a single God???

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>>743331401
>>743331579
>>743331991
I said Good day Sir.

I replied 1/10

>>743332055
>Good day Sir!

Sure, its sir when they see calling me a kid just won't fly...

>>743332360

And I'm chasing you off. Proof. What a load of crap.

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>>743332349
I never once said that. Y'all fail in reading comprehension.

>>743332360
/thread

>>743332349
see
>>743322572

>>743332526
>I never once said that. Y'all fail in reading comprehension.

And I never said you did. I think you're the one with the reading comprehension problem.

Or just stop with the specious arguments.

>>743332416
What are you doing calling kids anyway?

>>743332526
/thread

...not so fast sport. I don't think so...

>>743314444
The Hebrews were people who spoke Hebrew. The only people who did were Jews, the people who invented the language. If you weren't reading the Torah the was no reason to even know how to speak it. No one you traded with spoke it and it was a new language and still being worked out and was less developed than the others around you. All Hebrews are Jews and all Jews are Hebrews. But not all Jews are genetically Semitic. Only the Mizrahi Jews are

>>743332784
>The Hebrews were people who spoke Hebrew.

And Jesus actually spoke Aramaic. Look it up.

He was Jewish. Just accept it.

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>>743332416
Walks like a duck acts like a duck.

It's a duck.

>>743332519
Proof in as much as there ARE in fact writings about Christ outside of the Bible. Lots of them. That you reject the 3 I provided instead of just googling them yourself. Well now I am just calling you a troll dear /b/tard. Perhaps a board like /k/ would serve you better? You can debate if it a is a magazine or a clip.

>>743332746
I'm not your sport, m8.

>>743332784
LOL yeah I should have realized y'all are nothing but trolls.

Guys just relax.

Everything is bullshit, and this is just a ride.

>>743332784
>The Hebrews were people who spoke Hebrew. The only people who did were Jews... blah blah mumble mumble

You didn't know Jesus' language was Aramaic, did you?

>>743333098
>mumble mumble hebrews jews hebrew language you're a child blah blah

You know nothing, least of all about your own religion you're trying to defend from a "child".

Learn about the subject your arguing for first. Or be rightly called a fool.

>>743333098
>Proof in as much as there ARE in fact writings about Christ outside of the Bible. Lots of them.

Oh, yeah. And this old gem. No, there are not.

If there are, produce them.

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>>743332922
>>743332784
You have no clue what is a jew.
Twelve sons had Jacob called Israel by God.
Jacob was Hebrew or Adamic. One of his sons Judah was the Father of the tribe called Jews.

Dan's sons probably today are called Danes. Naphtali's probably called Italians. Most every nation today descended from Jacob? Has a cross on its flag. Hebrews is the far more accurate and inclusive term being called Jewish is probably more of an insult.

Shot; sunk. Athiest 1, thiests 0.

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>>743333569
Done and Done. Read the entire thread I linked you directly to 3 there are more up above you chose not to look.

>>743333617

So for proof you trot more verse. Well, color me surprised. But I am not impressed. How can you make an argument about a man whose language you didn't even know?