Alcoholics Anonymous thread 1) How much do you drink? 2)

>>743287110
because I'm a fagget and I'm not comfortable being gay

I drink as much as I possibly can a night

>>743287110
when I feel like shit 4 shots seems to do the trick

>>743287110
Drank heaps every night for ten years, thought I might be alcho. Stopped. No problems. Lost ten kilos. Don't miss the grog, just the the evening boredom, nighttime tv is no longer funny!

>>743287110
I try to not be drunk all day, but I'm usually drunk every other day. Drinking lightly throughout the day.

I drink because it helps with the anxiety

>>743287110
8-10 beers/day
boredom

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>>743287110
1. It varies wildly. When I am focused on bettering myself I stay away from it completely for months at a time. When I'm an idiot I usually get wasted every weekend on a crazy bender that can last up to 24 hours with drugs mixed in. I am actually capable of having 1-2 but it can be hard sometimes.

2. General loneliness and boredom.

Drink alot every day. When not at work I drink consistently. Minimum 10 beer or a micky of vodka a day. Keeps my social anxiety away and I function better than if I am sober

>>743287582
well you brought this upon yourself by not killing yourself

>>743288106
yeah that's the lie everyone tells themselves

>>743287582
Quit being so gay then

>>743287681
>only 4

>>743288178
Well when I dont drink I can barely think or focus on anything. I'm successful so no point in lying to myself

>>743287582
Just embrace th home dude, go out and party in the gayest nightclub u can find and get all your holes filled with semen so gay it has glitter in it. Then u can come home and drink to forget the shame of being a dirty homo u til u decide to gay it up again.

>>743287841
Same here bud. I don't know how bad your anxiety is but mine cripples me. I drink enough to make it go away which is usually a slight buzz. I don't like to get wasted or drink myself into a stupor, I just drink enough for it to go away.

The doctor has tried multiple benzo medications and none work for me.

Usually buy a bottle of vodka on Friday and finish it before Saturday night, sometimes finish it on friday. Not really alcoholic level just binge drinking, I can't just drink a little bit.

>>743287110
1). I don't drink daily. More like 1-2x a week. When I do drink, I like to start way before everybody else to ensure I have some sort of buzz.
2). Alcoholic/stoner friends, history of failed relationships and low self-esteem, anxiety and depression. I really have no reason to drink. My parents love and care for me. I just love being drunk.

>>743288007
Gets drunk on weekends lololol

>People who don't drink whenever they're awake claiming to be alcoholics
Alcoholics are dependent on alcohol and need it to function. If you can function through the day without it, you're not an alcoholic.

>>743288387
So you're 18 years old and still live at home

>>743288502
No. I'm 22 and moved out a while ago. I just over-do drinking in general. Or maybe I'm not an alcoholic and I'm a pussy. Also a possibility. Lol

>>743288461
You're preaching to a board full of high schoolers anon.

>>743288555
No it's pretty fuckin obvious you're not a alcoholic

>>743287582
This isn't 1800 what do you live in a fucking small town in AR ?
Get real dude, enjoy the penis and you better embrace being a complete faggot cause it ain't going away. At least it hasn't for me.

>>743287110

1. Sometimes I drink most of a bottle of wine on a weekend.
2. Feels relaxing.

I need help

This is basically my life

>Wake up after a 3 hour nap
>Get terrible fucking anxiety
>Try to walk around, do some exercises, deep breathing
>Nothing works
>End up drinking about 1 hour after I wake up and half the time I'll throw up after the first sip
>Drink until I get buzzed and tired, only to fall asleep again for another 3 hour nap
>Repeat

I'm pretty sure my body is shutting down. Nothing I do works and none of these stupid fucking expensive pills they keep pushing on me do anything. The last pills they gave me BusPIRone gave me non-stop heart palpitations.

I'm going to be dead soon, I can just feel it. My vision gets blurry, my head is too hard to hold up and I'm super sensitive to the touch which makes my anxiety go through the roof if I have nothing to drink for a few hours.

1.75L of svedka every week

>>743288106
get on medication.

>>743288746
the fuck are you talking about "needing help", that's pretty tame

>>743288746
What? Not even. That's far lower than the average consumption. A bottle of wine on the weekend isn't even close to alcoholism.

>>743288804
That doesn't sound like withdrawals anon. It sounds like you're a hypochondriac. Do you get any sweating, shaking, seizures, hallucinations, blood in your stool, confusion or rapid heartbeat?

It honestly sounds like you have General Anxiety Disorder.

>>743288981
Oh holy fuck I hate those people. My brother claims to have that shit and he's a burden on the family. No job or nothing he just sits there all day in his room pacing back and forth and laying down.

>>743289121
It's easy to hate them if you've never gone through it. It's not just excessive worrying, it can ruin your life and take over.

>>743288804
lol your liver is failing you idiot

>>743289121
jeez, he needs help then. tell him to see a doctor about anxiety meds.

>>743289238
>meds
the american health care system. Just have em take some pills!

>1.75L on the weekend
>a few beers during the week
The less I work the more I drink since I have more time.
I'm not sure when I will quit. But I hope soon. I wonder what I can change about myself. How much money I can save etc.

>>743289277
Well the Pharma industry is a multi-billion a year industry, along with how much insurance pays out to doctors and hospitals. It's too profitable for it to be anything else.

>>743289444
I thought about this a lot when I went out to the bar. $3 beers add up really fucking quick when you drink every day. I switched to the liquor store and saved a ton of money.

>>743289511
yeah I never go to bars. I wish I did cause I'd probably maybe make friends.
Even if I have friends, i'd rather stay home and do nothing, but relax. I hardly go outside. I am a failure at life in general.

>>743289654
The only friend you really make is the bartender you're tipping until you stop going, then they forget about you.

Also, there's the endless amount of basic bitches you might have a chance with. For the love of God, wrap up if you get with any of them. It's not their first rodeo and you're probably fuck boy #5 for the week.

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>>743287110
I drink when I'm sad, I drink when I'm happy, I drink when it rains, I drink when it's sunny, I drink when I'm bored, I drink when I have a lot to do. I drink when people die, and also when people are born, I drink, and I read, then I drink again. God bless us, because life would be unbearable without alcohol.

>>743289723
I'm not even interested in casual sex. I go home, drink then jerk off when im super drunk and can barely function.

>>743289723
>>743289654

Jesus Christ you sad sacks. How can you go out and not talk to anyone?

Stop feeling sorry for yourselves and go outside for fucks sake.

>>743289956
I sleep really fucking early though. On the weekend I wake up at like 3 am and theres nothing to do but drink.

>>743288804
Oh shut the fuck up granny
Just get a fucking job or a hobby to keep you awake during the day or something and stop pretending you're some 90 yo with a ton of ACTUAL health problems you histrionic shit

>>743290030

Get a job then? Or don't sleep so late.

You guys are stuck in comfort zones creating your own problems.

>>743287110
1) Half a bottle when I drink usually.
2) When I get depressed. Or celebrating. So 3 or 4 times a month?

>>743290222
my job is why I am up so early
I dont really disagree that I make my own problems. Just have to fix them. Simplest solutions I can think of is just quit smoking and drinking and go from there. 1 thing at a time.

>>743289238
i mean, sure, scoff at the ridiculousness of it all, but medications can and do help.
i function because of meds, i can't mock them.

>>743290222
Checked

this is basically it, they're pampered in life into thinking shit will solve by itself and moan about it when all they have to do is literally change a few bad habits to get what they want in life.

>>743290349
meant for >>743289277

>>743289238

>meds

Or how bout read "crime and punishment"

>>743287110

Just quit 13 days ago.
I took ativan (Lorazepam) at 2mg for 3 days for every 6 hours. By the second day I went down to 1mg every 6 hours. After the 3 days I didn't have withdraws or cravings since. I was drinking for 5 years straight, at least a 6 pack a night. Now I just smoke more weed then usual but I'm getting my shit and my liver back into my control. Feels good being sober man!

>>743287847
>boredom
this is why i drink all the time and am on /b/ all the time and why i masturbate all the time

>>743287110
>1) How much do you drink?
Like 0,5 litre of cheap vodka.
>2) Why do you drink?
Depression and sleeping problems.

>>743290364
I wasnt pampered. I just took heroin for 2 years and when i quit I started drinking. Its an addiction, not a habit.

>>743290346
Set yourself a date to start doing that first step, man

A lot
In my blood to begin with. My best friend died, stopped caring. Trying to care again

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>>743287110
>too much
>I don't know

Need help. How to not fall for the same girl again? She's already rejected me once and now we're going to be friends with benefits sort

>>743287110
A beer with breakfast.
2 with lunch then I work from 3-10 pm and after work more beer and shots of vodka/tequila or mixed drinks and then a beer before bed. I drink tons of water a day too so I bope my liver can cope.

>>743287110
1) 0 sips in 6 years
2) used to drink myself unconscious every fridays. Shy when sober, social monster once drunk.

Stopped cold-turkey when I could'nt cope with who I was when drunk. Had stolen beers from a friend to keep the buzz going the last night I drank. I'll be sober forever and it feels awesome. Never was a dayly drinker so I guess I had it easy.

>>743291172
You're an inspiration

Bottle of rum. Drinking because I lost control of my life.

>>743289121
"I can't see your illness so it isn't real."

Sure thing pal. Your brother needs help and you need to learn how to feel compassion for others.

>>743290904
it's LITERALLY
THE
SAME
FUCKING
THING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop trying to make it look harder than it is and you're half the way there you dumb fuck

>>743291172

I can relate to 2). Glad I stopped while I could.
Did you ever or have you regained some social skills after quitting cold turkey? If so what was that like?

I drink about 4 liters of hard stuff a week, so about 500ml a day, or 10 shots.

2. I dont know why, boredom, helps me sleep, feels good

>>743291172
How do you handle not being as social now ?
How do you handle the feeling that there'sw another cool version of you out there latent waiting for you to drink
And don't BS me you and i know you can't be the same when sober... at least not as cool

Pint a day, usually
started because made me feel good, was fun
now is habitual, feels bad man

When I can:
1. I drink a bottle of vodka in 2 days.
2. I have anger issues that I keep bottled up. And I like to hurt/kill myself.

1/2 litre of rum per day.
Forget about the pain of living

>>743291405
Pick up a serious heroin habit for two years and let us know how easy it was for you to kick it.

>>743287841
This with weed. I had no idea how socially fucking fucked I am, OR severely depressed I am till I had some of each (never mix them though).

Needless to say, it has helped me consider getting help and accepted that I have a depression problem. I ain't addicted though so that's nice. Rarely do either.

>>743290996
I did. Either new years or close to my birthday. But I may quit sooner. If i can just make it to a weekend where I dont drink much I will have made it.

>>743291495

I can't consider that side of a person to be cool anymore, it's just painful to watch someone for so long get drunk all the time. I started to notice how I was changing in the eyes of the people around me. Sure I get you might have more fun when intoxicated but when you look around after a few drinks and realize you're the only one drinking heavily, it's time to re-evaluate priorities in life.

>>743291628
thanks for siding with me. I lost my friends and so much respect.
I didnt feel shame til after I quit. And no one has my back or support in quitting alcohol. No one cares, unlike heroin where everyone tries their best to make you stop. I didnt even stop til everyone gave up on me.

>>743291628
Easy just substitute heroine for oxycotin
>no more heroine problem

>>743291745
heroin is cheaper though. I was spending 100$ a day on dope.

>>743291683
THanks for the perspective bro, sometimes i have problems dealing with how people used ot perceive me they say i'm too serious and shy now and i still have a hard time adjusting

>>743291836
Stop being a poor fag and get a decent job with insurance
>pretend to have cystic fibrosis
>drown in pain meds paid for w/insurance
>die one night from accidental overdose

>>743291993
I'm not that poor though I make out ok. My insurance is the greatest I can get in the country. And Ive been off dope for like 3 and a half years.

>>743291628
Problem with your argument is i kicked heroine and alcohol and it's just a habit, stop trying to make it look like you're battling the fucking hardest problem in the world bud it's not.

>>743287110
several dead nazis a day plus a beer before bed. the big fancy ones. this system of things.

>>743292057
I was clean and sober for 7 years now back to drinking because Fuck it not worth dealing with the bullshit. Was just trying to give a tip to quit heroin

>>743292276
in the past 10 years I have only ever been sober twice, once for 3 months and once for a month after I kicked heroin, then I picked up drinking.
I smoke weed too, but I smoke it like once or twice a week if at all. Once I run out, I probably wont buy anymore and that sort of helps. At least I can truly pass drug tests.

>>743292110
Habit =/= addiction don't talk about what you don't know

>>743291966

Anytime bro. I feel I might have a hard time adjusting now too. I basically alienated myself from the people I went to school with, grew up with, etc. That feeling sucked. I ended up just sitting in my room all day waiting for the opportunity to get a couple bucks to go buy some vodka. Eventually you run out of things to blame for your problem and evidently start blaming yourself (like i did). I had anxiety just going to the liquor store i always go to. The staff and manager know me on a personal level and I felt that was enabling me. Once I could't find the courage to even go outside to get some alcohol for myself, I said "Fuck it, i've had enough". Booked a physician, got me on some meds. Kicked the withdraw and the cravings. Now I gotta focus on the little moments where that little voice in the back of your head says "Yeah maybe one drink", those are the addicts downfall. Don't give in and take one day at a time until you can build some social confidence. I realized when I was drunk I wouldn't think before I spoke, now I always think before I speak so as to learn how to incorporate myself back into society again.

>>743292354
btw same anon here and I felt fantastic once I was sober, but my memory is sort of hazy. I dont remember what changed other than I was working out and playing video games with less distraction. I could be more social too. If someone invited me out I could go anytime.

>>743291966
Exact same thing happens to me. "Youre too serious. Youre too quiet."

>>743292354
Once you run out you'll find a reason to get more. Unless you can find a reason to not to. Mine was my wife after 2 years slut left me. Life stayed same Shit different day for 5 more years said Fuck it and went a bottle of rum

>>743292551
This happens to me too. I just dont care much. I make jokes sometimes depends on the mood.

>>743287847
bump

>>743292574
I think if I ever stop drinking for just a few days I will never go back to doing it everyday. I am just scared to suddenly stop and every time I ween down, i end up drinking a shit load on the weekend.

I drink until my ball sack splits and my testicles fall out of my scrotum.

I drink because I cried when Chester Badminton died.

>>743292662

Yeah I got pretty numb that night too...

>>743292416
Yeah dude i always felt guilty walking up to the clerk and asking for yet another liter of vodka.. used to lie all the time about how i was going to meet up with friends at night and i needed to bring something for some reason, without him even asking i was giving him reason that's how insecure i felt.
I guess i still have a long way to go to learn to be myself without the drink and how to do basic shit like hanging out with my friends like some kind of kid always feeling behind the curve but i guess it's not the end of the world.

>>743287110

>3-4 beers and some vodka/cranberry

>My class/job schedule has a ton of down time these days so I fill that void by day drinking and enjoying the day.

>>743292654
The first week after quitting sucks. If you can make it past that not too hard to stay sober unless you have nothing else in your life. Then slow suicide by drinking doesn't sound so bad

>>743292782
A true alcoholic drinks at least 6-7 belts of cheap rotgut during lunch and comes back for seconds at supper

begone you tampon-sniffing whelp

>>743292717
lol I feel this guilt too. I am about to switch what store I go to. I'll go to the one with the old lady who looks miserable herself.

>>743292799
I really dont have much in life, but my hobbies. I could actually pursue them better if I wasnt drunk and might make friends if I wasnt too drunk to go out. I might even be able to sleep less cause currently I need like 8+ hours of sleep to get up for work.

>>743292717

My dude I used to do the same thing. Excuses about plans and jobs, places i was going the whole 9 yards. I wonder if any of them actually cared enough to chart out the history of lies ive created in there eyes. I'd be interesting to see what Ive said in the past 5 years.
Nah it's not the end of the world just a hurdle I was too drunk to jump over (let alone stand up straight). It's never too late bro.

At my worst I usually finished a half gallon in two days, drinking slowly throughout the day. That was for about 4 years. Now I don't drink at all but I sure as fuck had a lot of withdraw issues. Cool now, those who wanna stop it's not easy so I'm not gonna sit here and tell you to. You'll hit rock bottom and either just slowly drink yourself to death because you're a coward or vomit for a solid week and feel like a new person after you've stopped drinking.

1. Roughly half a fifth of bourbon a night.
2. I can't sleep or socialize without being inebriated.

>>743293047

Did you go through withdraws without medication?

Just started shooting tequila every night where I don't have to get up for work the next day.

Sexually frustrated cause my gf has a chronic illness that makes sex very uncomfortable,if not out right painful. Coming up on three weeks and I'm fucking miserable. I feel like an asshole for feeling this way cause our relationship is great. I just feel at ease once the tequila hits.

Should I keep going or quit before it potentially becomes alchoholism?

>>743292914
Hobbies will only take you so far (5 years for me as previously mentioned) gonna have to either find more hobbies (yet another kind of substitution) or figure out how to be at peace with yourself, which I failed. Good luck with either

What's it called if you go through periods of ridiculous binge-drinking (every day morning noon and night), followed by periods of relative sobriety, with no real withdrawl symptoms (maybe a headache) inbetween?

I pick it up, I put it down, I'm probably an alchy but I don't know if it's a problem.

>>743293186
If it's not yet alcoholism then quit before it does

>>743293186

Quit now, its already potential.

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1/5 a day ... at least
nothing else to do

>>743293174
Kinda. The first time I was going through withdraws I became really sick, so I couldn't drink which sparked the DT's HARD and was in a coma in the hospital for about 4 days. I'm an idiot like the rest of you and started drinking a few months after that, but I'm off again and I just weened myself off this time with no major problems (still problems though)

>>743293239
Still an addict/alcoholic whichever term you are more comfortable with. Alcoholics are just addicts denying drinking is a specific drug.

>>743293205
I guess, but hobbies were always something to me. I love learning knowledge and skills and doing productive shit.

My best hope is that I quit. But I also hope that I can save up enough money, move and start all over. Its hard cause I make decent money and great benefits at my job, but it wont transfer anywhere else.

>>743287110
1) At least 6 beers a day
2) I've made mistakes in my life like everyone else, and work a shitty job.

>>743287110

>1) How much do you drink?
..... every last drop that is poured into my glass;

>2) Why do you drink?
..... I subscribe to the "Cartesian Philosophy":

" I drink therefore I am. "

>>743293534
Zima is like, the best, right?

Go be fourteen somewhere else.

>>743287110
I'm 18 and drink a fair bit, not an abnormal amount but the issue is that I'm always thinking about drinking. Will I be an alcoholic one day?

>>743293534

..... " Bibo ergo sum. "

>>743293412

That's fucking rough man... You're making that drinking after a few months thing sound like a really bad idea. I quit and haven't hit that point yet but if I do, I'll remember what you said anon. As far as withdraws go I can say I was on the opposite side of the spectrum then your experience. I was doped up for a couple of days, totally fried on meds and when I kicked the meds, I had no symptoms of withdraw. I felt pretty lucky for that. It gave me extra confidence that I could actually beat this.

>>743293446
I hope you can and stay quit. Use me as an object lesson once you quit you need to be vigilant or else your addiction will be waiting there

>>743288804
Try vallium, you'll be able to get some sleep and you won't give a fuck when you wake up. Take like 10 pills and you'll get enough rest

>>743293774
Ask again in a couple years, at that age it's perfectly normal

Binge drink on weekends. Usually 3 shots and 2 tall cans

>>743293746

>Zima is like, the best, right?

..... W r o n g .....

[ Go be twelve and three-quarters somewhere else, summerfag. ]

>>743293911
I'll try.
I think next time I get beer. I will get regular beer instead of the 8% alcohol IPAs. Then on the weekend maybe Ill buy IPAs and start the weening process like that. If i could drink beer on a weekend I'd make huge progress.

>>743293846
Oh yeah, if you're off the junk stay off of it, nothing was pretty about what I've been through. You'll feel so much better about yourself.

went mon - friday at 430. had 4 tall c ans and a 375 of gin


trying to be a good boy, but the fight's tonight

>>743293952
It's almost constant though, my dad had an affair and I took shit loads of drugs for about a year, I've just fucked up my a levels and every day I'm just gasping for a drink by about 3pm

>>743294232
Unless you will have someone's aforementioned DTs then quitting outright ASAP will be easier

>>743294257

Duly noted my good man. I already feel better :)

>>743293985
>binge drink

>>743294399
what is DTs. I'm too scared. I was in inpatient rehab for heroin and know majority of people there were there for alcohol. I dont want to miss any work at all.

>>743287110
>how much
a bottle of sweet Vermouth with a bottle of rum mixed with coke every 2-3 days
>why
because I like the taste
... and the buzz

>>743294361
alright then stop NOW while it's still easy bro
Gets harder every day and then you hit a point where you need something bad to happen to you to make you quit and it can end up with you being ostracized or dead or even worse killing someone else.
Now dude. I'm not your granny trying to scare you here i literally almost killed my friends because no one was there to tell me i should stop and i was too young and retarded to know better.

>>743294511
Just Google DT alcohol and you'll see. You'll know if you're having them at 36 hours w/o alcohol

>>743293746

Laphroaig Quarter Cask; and/or George & J G Smith's Glenlivet Cask Strength heavily peated;

..... washed down with lashings of Shepherd Neame 1698 and/or Morland Old Crafty Hen; and/or Greene King Abbot Reserve:

are (in my very considerable experience) just about as close as anything ever gets to being definitively: " T H E B E S T ".

>>743294694
It's difficult, like someone else said, everyone my age is like this but they don't have the same reasons for doing it as I do. If I stop going down the pub most weekends I'm just going to isolate myself and probably end up drinking alone

Every weekend ill drink a bottle of makers mark

>>743294916
Mate, you have good taste. I assume you're British, if so, try McEwan's champion

>>743294700
so i drink like half a liter everyday for 3 years. I should be ok to go cold turkey? I have never stopped for a day though this last week I drank less than I have in a while.
Like I said I dont want to miss any work. Might still ween down to be safe.
Can I switch to normal beer and not risk my overall health and still drink daily?

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For all of you anons in this thread, I really do hope you see yourselves as you are right now and exercise the force of will necessary to become your better selves.

You have it in you.

>>743294958
Not the dude you're talking to, but chiming in. Fucking stop and don't make weak excuses. It's either stop and have a few shitty days or dying.

Hmmm. In a session, I'll probably do 8-10 pints of strong ciders, a few whiskeys, a few jager bombs. I'll kick it up a notch with coke, 20 cigarettes, as much weed as possible. Maybe ecstasy if I'm in the mood. How often? Maybe 3-7 times a week.

Why? Because it's good fun and I have such a tolerance... No hangovers. Nothing. No adverse effects. I can peel myself off the mattress after fuck all sleep and go to work, do my job very well.

I've been doing it for pretty much 23 years. Having had semi regular check ups, I know that there's no long term damage as of yet.

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>>743287110
Functional alcoholic here. 33 years old, top 0.5% income for my age bracket in the US. By all accounts a successful and normal person.

Except I have drank at least to the point of a buzz every day for 13 years straight with only a few days off. I drink because I'm restless about death. Simple as that. Existence seems bitter to me oftentimes. It's not depression, it's indignance at mortality. It makes me angry and frustrated that I am so completely inconsequential and doomed to live and die in the blink of an eye. It's bothered me since I was 12 and it never died down, only got more and more intense.

So what's a bitter nihilist to do? Make as much money as possible and drink good booze. Try to travel and see some shit. Have some decent sex. Drive fast, eat well.

I drink because what the fuck else are we supposed to do? Stand around singing and holding hands while we wait for oblivion?

>>743295215
My work sucks. Its 8-12 hours of manual labor. I need sleep.

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>>743292905

>>743295108
Everybody is different but I drink half a litre of rum most days and am OK stopping for a few w/o negative effects other than being slightly out of it for the first hour after I wake up. I know I'm an addict but I am functional for now. If you want to stop stop. If you have DTs then slow down but do it purposefully like make a calendar day 1 X amount of shots day 2 X-1 shots etc until you are down to no drinks. Then just don't pick up

>>743287110
1. about half a liter of vodka an evening.
2. loneliness, boredom

>>743294958
Not going to give you the long version.
Stop or have a shitty life bro, your call.

>>743291255
Can't be as cool indeed ... I flatter my ego in other ways. Skin deep temporary alcool-fueled social interactions are overrated... although I'll admit I sometimes miss the random same wavelenght epiphanic discussions I had of one-night bromance that only alcohol and late night spliffs can create.

>>743295108

Depends. Weening can work for some but not for others. What i can gather is if you have a genetic disorder for alcoholism you should quit cold turkey, but if it has been too long drinking (like 5-10 years) you could have sudden repercussions like heart failure and permanent internal damage if you try cold turkey. Ween is less likely to work but will keep you from having internal issues. Cold turkey will kick your ass back into shape in one few swoop.

>>743295769
>>743295514
thanks
maybe next thusday I wont drink at all and see how I feel after work on friday. More likely ill ween.
How much do you have to drink to damage your liver or organs? cause would like a 6 pack of beer be fine even if you drank every day? its not that much.

I drink about 3 gallons of horse cum every second of every day. Do it because I am a fucking horse sucking slut creature from hell

>>743296316

I have an inflamed liver from 5 years of drinking at least a 6 pack a day. So after 3 years you're pretty close to damaging your liver. It's when you scar your liver and get cirrhosis thats when you've crossed the line of no return.

>>743296316
Again everybody is different it can damage some and not others. After you have been clean for 2 or 3 months schedule a DR appointment and have them run tests to determine any damage

>>743296542
fuck thats probably a good idea. I'd gladly see my doctor after quitting drinking. I've avoided him ever since I started.

>>743296517
what happens when you damage your liver by drinking ? What are you experiencing i'm legitimately interested

>>743287110
> lots
> cause I need to

>>743296695
Not that anon but other replying to same convoy but I have a mild pain in my side most days. After not drinking for a couple days it's pretty much gone then I start again

>>743296889
"the pain is gone I'm cured"

yeah alright

>>743296990
Never claimed that. Just stated what I do.

>>743287110
about 10 UK units on a normal night, 15-20 units maybe once a week.
no access to any good drugs. all of the decent conventional recreational drugs which are all far less harmful than alcohol; are prohibited and heavily policed where i live.

>>743296695

I'm recovering at the moment. At the moment I'm on assorted vitamins and folic acid. Melatonin to sleep. My liver though is inflamed which basically means its enlarged. It's actually 4 inches higher in my torso then it should be. That's because drinking constantly builds up fat on/in your liver and if you never give it time to calm down it just keeps getting fattier and fattier, affecting your blood thickness and ability to eat and digest food normally. After I got clean I have no problems eating and my liver and stomach feel great and never ack anymore. The scars occur when you consume so much your liver can never return to normal, hence the scarring is permanent.

>>743297078
Does this mean you can never go back to a normal as in eating whatever you want) life ?
DO you have to take meds forever now ?
Thanks for the info bro appreciate it, i kind of want to learn where i'm headed from an actual retard like myself

>>743287110
Probably about 3.5 Liters of whisky a week.

Psoriasis has ruined my life, and ive given up the idea of relationship/kids/ because of it.
Also lost my brother to suicide, which was the last straw for me. Alcohol has full on become the crutch that keeps me afloat.

>>743297062
but it's what you're telling yourself in some form or fashion

>>743295103

>I assume you're British, .....

Your assumption is correct.

>if so, try McEwan's champion

..... I have already tried it (frequently):

Used to drink it fairly often in a Private Members' Social Club in the Manchester area,

..... where I was inclined to drink it with the Isle of Jura whisky (mainly because it was the only single malt that they normally had on the optics.

>>743297592
No I just don't like being in pain. I'm not an idiot I know I'm damaging my liver. Proof being it takes less time for it to start hurting beyond tolerance and longer between recoveries. There are just some things I'd rather not deal with, those things being life in general but I don't want pain :/

>>743297426

Np bro. Where my livers health stands, after a long time of readjusting my enzymes in my organs (with vitamins and supplements) I will eventually be back to as close as normal as my body allows me to be.
I love food man, all foods. Before I couldn't eat a fucking pizza with feeling like shit. Now that the alcohol is out of my system and my liver is calming down, it's a lot easier to process food. I get to eat all the things I loved eating again. I just had oysters for the first time in years the other night and I couldn't have felt happier!
Man I had no clue where I was at until I saw a professional, now my heads clear and i'm willing to share its not to be ashamed about if it can help others gain some perspective in their related problems. It was scaring going into getting clean but I'm glad I got through it. I kept saying through the process "I gotta do what I gotta do" even if I hated it. Its that first push that really makes the difference.

>>743298217
That's amazing dude, last time i tried having pizza i threw the whole shit up after being bloated for like 7 hours... i'ts not like a quick reaction it just stays there fermenting inflating my stomach and eventually i puke it.
Can't fucking wait to enjoy little shit like that again or just plain not feel like i got ran over every waking hour unless i'm wasted

>>743298709

You'll feel so much better man. Once my appetite came back, got the proper calories in my system. Got my energy back and woke up regularly, I feel a new! Just wait until you demolish a whole pizza pie and shit it out like normal like an hour later. You body will thank you, your mind will thank you.

>>743295416
Do whatever you want. But as a daily alcohol abuser, and the fact that you wrote "drive fast", I believe it to be of the utmost importance that you don't drive at all. Stay away from steering wheels in general. If you have the cash hire a driver.

Destroy yourself if you want, but don't take others down with you.
>Well that wouldn't happen to me, I control my alcohol intake, am an excellent driver/never drive after drinking!
Is what every single drunk driver ever, after the have impaled little stacy on her bicycles handle bar.

>>743287110
at least a six pack a day. I'm a loveless creep and loser. Drinking helps me dull the pain and gets me to sleep.

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>>743299138

Poor Stacy man...

>>743287110
?A bottle of baileys and 4 cans of strongbow an evening usually

>Broke up with my GF 3 months ago and I've been drinking ever since. I dumped her but I was going througha rough patch and we had been arguing for months. Now I'm trying to get her back but for the past 2 months she's been "figuring out how she feels"

>>743287110
More than I should
Cos my life is empty

I drank damn near a handle of jim beam a day for over a decade. Got to the point where if i didnt have a drink i would get violently ill. Couldnt sleep for more than an hour or 2 without getting up sick and the only thing that would make it stop was to drink some more. I was drunk 24/7. Drinking at work and if i wasnt at work i would have to drink for a few hours sleep an hour or so wake up throw up and repeat. Detoxing was really fucking horribly painful

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>>743287110

As much as I can before I pass out

I hope that one day after passing out I choke on my own vomit and die.
Suicide looks bad, but choking on vomit would be acceptable

>>743300443

That sounds like those documentaries on youtube title "Will _____ Live?" (the blank is usually the name of who ever they're filming). One guy had the same experience as you described. Except he smoked weed to be able to eat but he could never keep it down. He slept with a pot next to his bed. It was pretty eye opening watching that one.

1) How much do you drink?
At least 7 drinks per day. Probably an average of 12.
2) Why do you drink?
Committing suicide. Lots of friends dead. Put my eggs in the basket of a lady. She left me. I see no reason to live. This is fucking rotten world. Can't wait to leave.

>>743301142
Rapid detox and xanax for the seizures. Took 10-12 days

>>743301324
there are no memes in heaven or hell.
remember that, anon.

>>743301341

Damn anon, how long has it been since?

Props to you man because the guy in the doc couldn't get to that point and went back to drinking. It was a shitty ending but really showed me where I was going and how out of control shit could get.
Can't imagine how hard it must have been for you during those almost 2 weeks.

>>743287110
1) One box of red wine every week, sorta..
2) Its fun, gets me to relax, simple reason..

Absolute bosses of recovery:

Chuck C - A New Pair of Glasses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYyTpb2dp8

Mark H
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+h+aa

Mark H and Joe H
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mark+h+JOE+H+aa

Also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMtTfUBTes8

>>743301873
That was years ago. Ill still have a couple beers on special occasions every now and then. I dont touch hard liquor anymore. The key to addiction is being willing and able to give up everything and everyone you associate with the addiction. I was a bartender and most of my friends and old hangouts revolved around the bar scenes. Had to get away or I more than likely would've drank myself to death. At one point i swear i could've drank Ireland under the table

>>743302630

Good to know even after a rough ride you're able to control yourself and pick a path to not stray from. Jeez as a bartender I can see the position you were in. I had crazy, drug addicted alcoholic friends from school. Who can out do the other, after years of abuse it just got depressing going out with those friends. I can agree with the whole being able to "drink Ireland under the table" feeling, 20 beers in one afternoon/night made me not have a care in the world. Had to get outta that mentality.

1) almost everyday at this point
2) in the process of recording an album and it killing me, I need an escape. I'm almost done, then I'll have my free time back and I'll go exercise

About a glass of wine every month
Because it tastes good

About half a litre of honey jack a night, cause I'm trans and parents are cunts about it and won't listen to any reason whatsoever

E.g. To them I'm old enough to get a job, be independent etc, not old enough to know whether I wanna be a woman or not

>>743288334
lovely comment

>>743303715

quit drinking
quit thinking you are trans

Result = happiness

its weird but doing the Keto diet helped me stop drinking for 6 months, which was a good chunk of sobriety fro me.
i lost weight and didn't feel the anxiety that i needed to drink.

>>743303978
No
I don't think it, I know it

Result = Low quality bait

>>743304155
You sound like a friend of mine who had body integrity identity disorder and was an alcoholic. She eventually cut off her hand, and afterwards realized it was just her depression focusing on something instead of actual introspection about herself. Go ahead and chop your dick off if you want, no one can stop you, but don't be a retard

>>743304431
Actually I don't want rid of my dick, I'm fine with having it, inb4 that makes me not trans, been out presenting female and never felt happier, just gotta move out permanently and I'll be fine

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>>743304155
Anon isn't baiting you. Thinking you're of another gender than you biologically are is a mental illness, just like certain lunatics believe they're prophets of Jesus. You've already admitted you have a problem and running off into another body isn't going to make those problems go away. The only thing you can do is work on yourself and learn to love what you are. Nobody likes themselves, OP, we just learn to deal with it.

>>743303715
if you're able to, seek therapy. a therapist that is sympathetic to your mindset and figure out if transitioning is something you want to do.

don't drink yourself numb, seek help and find clarity.

>>743304539
That's fine then. I was just trying to warn you about cutting your cock off while depressed. Good for you.

>>743304575

>Nobody likes themselves, OP, we just learn to deal with it.

this

>>743304656
Already have, both agreed transition was the best for me, already on track for it, I've just gotta survive till I'm actually independent

>>743304575
Except when I'm presenting female I feel happy and free, constantly

>>743304689
Already been warned enough, I know what I want and what I need, I just gotta survive till then

>>743287110
Quit about 3 weeks ago.
Before that roughly 12-17 beers a night. Depended on my speed and how long it took me to black out. Sometimes it would be a case of beer or more a day. Now I just eat and drink grape juice to stave the urge off. Not much better for my health, but I can't be fucked to exercise in this heat.

>>743305070
>already on track for it, I've just gotta survive till I'm actually independent
good for you, i wish you luck. i hope you find a good support system.

>>743287110
Been drinking nightly for 17 years, started 4 beers a night now up to a fifth of vodka a night.

Tried rehab and AA but I'd just stop for booze on my way back from meetings.

>>743305080
Oh. It started from insomnia. Some stupid reason it was the only feasible way to sleep in my mind at the time. Eventually became addicted and went to boredom as well. Then, because I was depressed. Eventually just cuz I didn't wanna be without it. When I hit that point I decided it was time to quit.

I only drink on weekends but... alone

>smoke weed errday
>suddenly random panic attacks out of fucking nowhere
>nope.exe
>stop smoking
>1 1/2 years later, fine so far but kinda bored without beeing drugged
>Have tried weed again on occations but it just wasn´t the same anymore
>Now it´s alcohol

I´m pretty sure I´ll try to get into weed again at some point... but not now.

>>743305185
Thank you, I'll drink to the future

>>743305080

2 weeks clean.

Iced tea instead of grape juice for me.

>>743305562
oi, oi, don't be a statistic now.

>>743305562

irony?

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>>743305070
Do you think depression is so easily resolved? That you can run forever? What will you do when the day comes, when you look in the mirror in your new female body, and the doubts suddenly pop back into your mind? Because that's how depression works, anon. They always come back.

>>743305405
That happened to me man. Happened about 4 years ago. Every time I tried to smoke I'd freak out and have panic attacks. Tried about 6 months ago and still have them. I think it probably has to do with anxiety issues

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>>743288216

I get anxiety because I'm always drunk and never get shit done.

I drink to get rid of anxiety.

>>743305622
I still struggle with insomnia, so any amount of caffeine is a no no for me.

heres my deal, i have to ask for booze for reasons i choose to not disclose.
so i have to get permission, how do i stop the anxiety that i get when i feel i "need" booze.
how do i curb that immense doom that comes with the "no you can't have booze"

if i can get that under control, i could get sober.

>>743305661
>>743305714
I'll let y'all decide

>>743305734
We always doubt, in everything we do, life is choices, and we're always scared we're making the wrong ones. I'd rather choose, and follow the path I make for myself, than be forced into one by people who don't try to understand how I feel. I'll always doubt, somewhere in the back of my mind, but I'm sure enough that it's what's right for me that I'm willing to take the risk. I'm willing to take the risk to live

>>743305966
The same way I deal with cravings. Put my time into other things, drink something else sweet, do things that make you not wanna drink, and remember "I don't need it."

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>>743305990
I hope you live, anon.

>>743305877

Ah rightfully so I can understand. I tried melatonin and it seems to have gotten me back on a regular sleep schedule. I get at least 8 hours a night now even if I'm drinking nestea all day. I'd say a little bit of weed but I can see why some people wouldn't because of the anxious effect it has on peoples minds. If you're already bummed out by not drinking might as well not get even more anxious by toking up before bed.

>>743305990
>>743306196

>I hope you live, anon.

I feel the same way.

>>743305966
DISCLOSE THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE TO ASK SOMEONE IF YOU CAN DRINK

>>743287582
Have you tried sucking on a shotgun barrel instead of a penis?

>>743306196
>>743306274
Don't worry, I didn't come this far to die now

>>743306212
Weed use to be my sleeping medicine until the panic attacks. Then I went to booze. I used melatonin for a while, but every few days I had to raise the dose. I was upwards of 25mg a night for sleep. Got a medicine from the doc that gave me hives. Found out benadryl worked. Now it's not working. Got put on hydroxyzine for a while but it made me too groggy in the mornings... Been on promethazine since Tuesday and it's been doing me just right oddly enough. Doctor still recommended no caffeine after noon. Ima stick to his script. He's got the degree.

>>743306109
this is so completely hard for me because my depression and anxiety keep from doing the things i once enjoyed so i think filling the void with booze helps.
I know it doesn't and i spiral into the depression/self-destruction toilet.
i'm on medication now that is midly helping with tho issues, so i don't feel so INTENSELY drawn to vodka. but god damn, the need to not be sober is ever present and draining.

In all honesty i want a puppy to distract me from it all, to keep me sober, to love more than i love myself. but i can't have that either.

>>743306355
it's extremely lame and stupid. I'm 30 years old and my extreme clinical anxiety has kept me from learning how to drive.
i can't drive and get booze myself. so i need a ride.
PLS no bully

>>743306474
those would be great final words

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>>743303715
Pic related kinda

>>743287841
You will die a drunk.

>>743306355
Probably too young to buy it or lives with mommy

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drink I s

>>743306635
wrong, faggot.
i'm too scared

>>743306527

Yeah man after all those trials try to stay with his regiment. He'll know best for the long term. Sorry to hear you can't sleep all that well anon. 25mg is a lot I only take 5mg. Seems like the insomnia was a problem even before you started drinking? I used to think in highschool I couldn't sleep without weed, then yeah those panic attacks ensued. Hated that feeling. 5 years later I can handle my herb just fine and I dont jones if I dont have any. (Thought I'd never shake that feeling tbh). I did try tylenol pm but I wouldn't recommend it to any drinker because it goes directly to your liver for processing. But hey im just 1 anon, listen to that guy with the degree :^)

>>743306581
Haha, well at least mine just pretend it doesn't exist instead of that shit

>>743306563
That they would be, there is bleach in the bathroom

>>743306549
I know the anxiety, depression, and intense urge for booze. Thursday and Friday I almost broke down and got booze. I had to fight it. I was really lonely, depressed and bored. Made it the worst urge I've had yet. I'm stressed at work which doesn't help.

Good luck anon. Finding something to spend your time better with would be a good step. I should find that too

Just came here, because i cant get no sleep, resd this thread and guess what. I'm going to get drunk rn

>>743288461
Functional alcoholic is a different term

>>743305789
yeah, shit sucks man. I feel you

>>743307198
nnngh, i'm glad i'm not alone. i hope you can fight it too anon.
i draw and play games to fill the void most days, but sometimes it's all-consuming.

i wish us both the best.

>>743307048
I've had it for about 5 years, yea. Doctor suspects bipolar, but I don't really show symptoms. He wants me to see him regularly now. Maybe he'll figure it out.

>>743287582

Thats not a good decision

>>743287681
>4 shots

>>743307576
haha right?

>>743287110
Up to 7/8 shots of whiskey
Because life means nothing, might as well be shitfaced. I prefer weed tho, but I cant get it easily

Not an alcoholic, but I've had 3-5 12 oz beers a night for the last month...mostly due to wanting to socialize at the bar and so that I get out of the apartment

>>743307429

I hope he figures it out anon, I hope you can find rest. I gotta go see my Doc regularly too it's no biggie. It's even better when he has good news, like I'm validated for actually doing good helps out a lot I find.

>>743303715
MODS MODS MODS
underage b&

>>743308208
Tbh the praise he gives me for quitting drinking feels empty and kind of condescending to me...