The foreskin is not just a piece of skin. It is pink and sensitive

>>743019845
nigga what you wikapedieng my ass for

>>743019845
Thank you for informing us op

Now show us your tits

>>743020225
Education about it is the most important thing. Too many people think it's just a piece of useless skin. This could scarcely be further from the truth: it's an entire sexual organ.

>>743019845
BUT LE SMELLY DOG PENIS SMEGMA CANCER AIDS TRADITION!!!!
Saved you the trouble of 95% of responses.

>>743020711
do yu have a dick yoself white boi
fucking shit man

and my dick works perfectly fine without it. plus american girls arent afriad of it.

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>>743019845

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSWbTv3hng

If you're circumcised, you don't have to accept that there's anything "wrong" with your dick. If you're a parent who had your kid circumcised at birth, you don't even have to admit to yourself that you did anything "wrong" by saying yes when the doctor asked you a question. All anyone has to do is just don't do it to your next baby boy.

>>743021210
>the wonders of rohypnol

>>743019845
Had a friend that had to have it done when he was 20 trust me do it when they will not remember it is much better and safer.

>>743020901
And the response is that the penis takes literally five seconds to clean in the shower, and that circumcision actually does not decrease the risk of penile cancer so long as you have basic hygiene.

Source: https://www.cancer.org/cancer/penile-cancer/causes-risks-prevention/prevention.html

TL;DR clean your dick for five seconds each shower and your risk of penile cancer is the same as for circumcised people.

Literally no benefit to circumcision.

>>743021243
Yes. Just don't do it. It needs to end.

And hope your child doesn't resent you for it.

>>743021429
But why!?!!? Fucking why!!?

>>743020711
But it's not.

Its unnecessary in most cases, but it has zero detriment irl. You can ask guys that didn't get cut till later in life and they don't give a shit. Nobody has ever complained that a vagina/asshole/mouth didn't feel good enough but a whole lot of guys have had their foreskin ripped. Much like women with actual labia, nobody gives a fuck besides insecure shitheads.

Hahaha, wow mutilation: the infliction of serious damage on something. Not really whats happening here. just some skin that was lost.

>>743021502
I was being satirical.
>>743021429
Infants can't get general anesthesia, nor can they consent.

circumcision is THE most disgusting thing you can do to someone

>>743019845
i'm circumcized and I can tell you that I absolutely do not have any sort of "psychological scars" from it. Didn't even know I was until I was 14.

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>>743019845
only fags care about other guys dicks

>>743021586
Not true.
t. cut guy who had serious psychological issues when I realized the implications

hey is that a baby? can i cut part of its penis off?

>>743021617
Normally, removing healthy skin is called flaying.

It should be illegal to do this as it's violating your unalienable rights

>>743021718
I don't care about other guys penises. People just need to stop doing that shit to infants.

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>>743021586
>it has zero detriment irl
All surgeries have failure rates. Removing your tonsils also has zero detriment, except for people who the failed surgery detriments greatly.

I'm uncircumcised, and don't have any issues. No lube for fapping, but I have had on 2 occasions in the past where a girl has found it unappealing. Regretfully so, before doing more research than I should've I have circumcised my first son.

Mainly because I read that by doing so, it would lower their risk of contracting an STD, which I'm paranoid of. Cleanliness was secondary, but the lower risk of catching a disease was a nail in the coffin.

Fast forward 2 years, and I'm still not sure if I made the right decision in doing so...if I have a second son, hopefully I will know for sure which way to go.

>>743022179
>>743021731
Serious psychological damage is very common.

>>743022221
the decision is largely arbitrary and personal. if i was unsure, i'd probably not do it. i'm sure one day nobody will circumcise anymore. but it's basically cosmetic.

>>743021731
This.

>>743021586
>it has zero detriment
except reduced sexual sensation
and increased susceptibility to abrasion damage, especially during sex and masturbation
and a dried out glans
and all the potential problems that can result from the procedure itself, and potential infection from having an open wound

At the end of the day, who gives a fuck?

>>743022659
And most important, lifelong resentment and feelings of mutilation.

>>743022727
It's the greatest human rights abuse in the Western world. I give a fuck because if I can prevent even one person from that lifelong resentment, I have changed an entire life.

I'm cut I like it. All my friends waste their time fucking chicks and I don't really enjoy sex because I can't feel it through a condom and just post memes all day instead

Goddammit why the fuck do you idiots keep arguing about this inane shit? Shut your mouth, the question is rhetorical. It's because you're pathetic, insecure, over-sensitive wastes of skin who know that they have nothing going for themselves in life and are looking to blame their problems on some trivial physical aspect of themselves which in reality changes nothing about their daily lives. Cut, uncut, who gives a fuck you mouth-breathing mongoloid? Nobody. Cutfags aren't suddenly immune to aids, uncutfags aren't magical sex gods. If you spend more than 13 seconds whining about the status of your foreskin you have failed at life. You will never achieve anything because you're too focused on minute details to give your worthless lives meaning and substance that you will never achieve anything, be anyone important, or be remembered for anything other than 'biggest fag at parties' after you die. SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP. ABOUT. IT.

>tl;dr goddamn, yes I mad.

>>743022445
This
No one really cares. If you ask me i like my wiener's haircut, very aesthetic.

>>743019845
There are no serious health risks against either circumcision or having foreskin. In fact, every single "health risk" that has been brought up by either side of the argument have all been proven to be either false or were all true back then when bathing and basic hygiene weren't as common.

Seriously, no one cares. They're both fine. The only people who seem to have a fucking problem with either of them are you faggots. Stop worrying about other peoples dicks and learn to accept that having foreskin won't change a thing if you are capable of cleaning yourself like a fucking normal adult. And stop pretending as if circumcised men can't ever reach the same amount of pleasure as someone with foreskin. They're all false claims made to fit your bullshit narrative and further your self esteem. It's pathetic.

I swear, some of you have brains that are more useless than the foreskin on your cocks.

>>743022221
The chance of your son's circumcision positively significantly helping his life is much smaller than the chance of his circumcision negatively affecting his life. Both chances are small, though, so ultimately your decision either way will not be something to lose sleep over. It was, simply, unnecessary.

The reduced HIV rates were among unwashed African tribes, btw.

>>743021115
NIGGER ALERT

>>743023001
What about the health risk of psychological damage? I have seen so many anons who have serious resentment issues over it.

>>743022903
I never talk about my own dick. I advocate facts and human rights. It matters because it matters deeply to many victims.

I'll be honest, I think this circumcision/foreskin debate is only an internet thing. You guys try desperately to make it seem as if it's a big issue among women, but as someone who isn't a virgin and has slept around with plenty of women, I can tell you that every single one of them didn't mind that I had foreskin. And it wasn't that they loved my foreskin either, they all were indifferent. They didn't care either way.

Women don't care. YOU care. YOU are insecure. Stop projecting your insecurities on others and learn to love yourself. Because this shit is just getting sad now. Stop making it seem like a world wide issue, when really it's only you guys on this board that seem to care.

>>743022221
>I'm still not sure if I made the right decision
you didn't

>>743023291
those with resentment issues also have other issues so using one example, isn't helping your case.

I resent my father because he was an abusive cunt. Not because he let a doctor snip some skin off me. I don't even care.

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i have had my cock mutilated by my dopey parents & it fuckin sucks..why hack MY foreskin off ? there is no real reason apart for looks well it my cock ...freaking dirty fukin women messing with a mans private parts so it looks good FUCK I reckon pussy would look better with no bloody flaps in the way ? lets cut all the women's flaps of cause it looks better with a just a hole They get in the way when i wanna fuck them don't need there flaps
Just saying
>tits are useless too

>>743023577
tough guy aye No fucks given here

>>743023581
>tits are useless too
Your life is useless faggot. Go cut yourself out of it.

>I'm mad at an arbitrary thing just because I have nothing else to be mad about first world problems

>>743023291
Well I don't know, dude. I was circumcised as a baby, and I don't seem to care. Meh. As long as your dick works, I don't see the problem. And I can tell you now, it's going to take a lot more than just a silly little post on 4chan to successfully change the minds of billions of people who plan to circumcise their babies for religious/cultural reasons.

Please remember that it's not just parents circumcising their kids because "it looks good". No. These people are doing it because their religion tells them too. Or they just want to keep the tradition of their culture alive. Let me tell you, religion and culture are politics. And when it comes to politics, it's impossible to change peoples minds. If we could, there would be no more religion, now would there?

>>743023781 you ruined your point with us last few sentences sorry mate

>2037
>Genetic manipulation of babies is common
>Parents make their baby black so he's good at sports
>Kid grows up resenting parents because he didn't want to be a nigger
Who can stop them?

>>743023760
Thanks for you understanding CUNT ..
fukin mangle your Daughters bits you fag
Do it bitch

>>743019845
Me and most people I know prefer it.

If i hear someone is uncircumcised i am like "shit.. is he gonna be clean?" and won't like.. try to do anything lewd to them.

>>743023581
Do you really believe a majority of circumcisions are done just for aesthetics? You're talking out of your ass, mate. Almost all circumcisions were done for religious or cultural reason. People believing that their god, for some bizarre reason, wasn't too happy with his own creations, so he tells all of his followers to cut their sons dick skin off just because. And then you have folks who do it just because their folks did it to them, because it's just a cultural trend.

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>>743023445
There is a little bit of a cosmetic issue in the US because porn rarely featured dicks with foreskin. The first time girls from the older generations will have seen an uncut dick is in person. It looks different than they're used to seeing in porn, so they can have a moronic reaction to it. Retarded boys will have similar reactions when seeing pussies for the first time, being surprised if they aren't perfect hairless innies.

Uncut dicks are a lot more common in porn now, so it shouldn't be a problem going forward. For today's horny teenaged girls, uncut dicks are fairly prominent, as one of the main categories they'll see when searching for dick pics.

>>743023889
Why? I was simply just stating that there is no stopping circumcision. And if you genuinely want to try to change that, it's going to take a shit ton more than just a post on /b/. That's all I meant. There is no changing peoples minds on matters like this. It's all religion based.

>>743024030
You know the statement if you meet more then 2 assholes a day. The problem is you?

Well same applies here.. If none of your problems are your own fault. Then the problem is you. You gonna be mad because your parents agreed to have open heart surgery on you because there was a hole in your heart when you where born? You gonna be mad that your parents closed your cleft palate? You gonna be mad because your parents agreed to have your extra snaggle toe removed?

Like fuck off m8

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>>743019845
>neurons
ok OP this is the faggot police, step outside, you're surrounded

>>743024545
You tellin me yo dick aint got no electrons and protons too my nigga? Shieeeeeeeet

>>743023001
oh, my sweet summer ameritard...

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>>743024383
fuck Bro I can't even crack a fat cause it hurts like fuck cause they cut my fore skin off Jerkin off is a bitch ...& you are the first asshole i have met today , Its just not necessary to cut babies man ...thats all ,didn't ruin my life Just fucked with my sex life ...

>>743024691
nigga muh dick is ELECTRIC

get triggered all you want, uncircumcised looks fucking weird. nobody wants some thing that looks like it's part of an alien.

>>743024912
lemme shred on it like an electric guitar my nigga no homo

>>743025007
Yeah, and nobody wants you alive. We can't all get what we want, now can we?

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>>743025007
>nobody
t. closet dykes

>>743025146
LOl javascript:quote('743025007')
Kill yourself

>>743025262
my dude that looks weird still

>>743025262
I think I found my cock twin

>>743025146
i mean if you agree with me with the "yeah" i don't see where you're coming from

>>743025265
>>743025436
Calm down, I'm just trying to be edgy. Like everyone else on this fucking website.

Just the other day I was thanking my mom for not circumcising me or my brothers. The way she sees it, if we wanted to cut our cocks in the future we can, but we could never have our foreskin if she cut it off

I had asked a friend who recently had a boy if he circumcised the kid. He said he did and I asked why. He said he didn't know, mostly because he himself was circumcised. I told him I pity him

>>743025637
aw man you hate him for disagreeing with you, life's hard outside your fort isn't it?

>>743025637
>forcing your beliefs on others and being judgemental.

You need Jesus. Come pray with me.

>>743025637
That's the same exact thing my mom said when I asked her why she didn't circumcise me.

>>743019845
Who hurt you?

>>743025772
>>743025786
When did 4chan turn into tumblr?

>>743025637
I like you Mum , she has a brain & a heart
Go hug her & buy some chocs
pity we have not got more smart women Like Your mum

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>>743019845
Nigger what the funk

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>>743025354
>normal dicks look weird
It looks weird because the only dicks you're used to seeing are your own in the mirror or the standardized ones in pornography. Nearly half of the dicks in the US have not been surgically altered, and that number is rising every year. Outside of the US the percentage of uncut dicks is much, much higher. Over 80% of Europe and China, for example.

>>743025906
Being a judgemental prick has never been a 4chan culture..

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>>743025637
does mom have any nudes ?
just saying she sounds HOT as

>>743025951
I kek'd

>>743026090
SAVE THE FORE SKIN from dirty ass women cutters #cutter sluts #fat bitches getting even
LEAVE our boys alone
that COCK belongs to them NOT women

>>743021731

You're just weak as shit.

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>>743021617
Fucking Satan loving Jew detected the real reason they circumcise your children is their foreskin is what gives the Jew its power.

I really feel like the only people who complain about having their foreskin removed as a baby are people who can't actually fuck anyone. So, they blame their insecurity and lack of attractiveness on something that doesn't matter whatsoever.They use it as a scapegoat. Not once have I thought that I have been missing out while not having a foreskin. Stop blaming your misfortunes on your circumcised dick you Cucks.

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>>743019845
>psychoLOGical

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>>743027425
People who tell you you're missing out are just trolling you, trying to make you insecure about your dick.

You're dick's fine, don't worry about it. Just don't do it to your next baby boy. It's unnecessary at best.

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>>743028106

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>>743028424

>>743021690
Slight exaggeration...

Ever see three guys 1 hammer?

>>743025939
Thanks anon, my mom really is great. She's the best and I'll hug her

>>743028465
this shit if so fucking odd

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>>743027425
Aside from those people whose dicks are fucked up by circumcision gone wrong, it probably doesn't make much difference.

The problem is it's still a (mostly) unnecessary act of mutilation done for 'tradition' on babies who cannot consent.

The principle of it is fucked up, in the same way chopping an earlobe off your baby would be. I'm from Europe where circumcision is rare beyond when it's medically necessary (eg. phymosis), so to us it's especially weird that Americans do it as a default, despite most not being Jewish or Muslims.

>>743023053
not him, but i've studied the hiv/aids epidemic and in general, reducing mucouss membrane surface areas will reduce transmittance of most fluid-borne diseases. this benefit is compounded by the fact that it is a stronger tissue that is less penetrable by pathogens.

depending on the kids lifestyle, this can be drastically beneficial.

i wouldn't recommend circumcision for appearances sake because some have mentioned there are odds of abnormal healing. as for psychological distress for an infant, that part is just projecting from uncut people who fear it.

if you think about it, most of these threads regarding this debate, i would venture to say upwards of 95% of them, are created as proponents of anticircumcision. makes you wonder why so much concern about it. sure, you don't see the need for circumcision, but why be so adamant about it when it never affects you. if anything, keep quiet and have your family line of perfect penises so that the world can swoon over it, no?

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>>743029870
Parents that have it done should be forced to watch.

>>743030059
Yes...

...although it'd be even better if they just outlawed it except for when it's medically necessary, or when the male is 18+ and can choose for themselves.

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I'm circumcised and to this day when i here a pair of scissors snip a shiver goes right through me.

>>743019845
Dude mind your own fucking business. Who the fuck are you to preach to me.

>>743030059
i agree

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>>743030579
My kid had it done, took like 5 seconds for the whole thing to be done and it wasn't a traumatic experience at all? Have you guys actually seen it done before? You're acting like it's this gruesome thing and it's certainly not.

>>743019845
Im circumsized and I'm perfectly happy about it. Tbh I'm honestly glad I don't have that disgusting dirt trap on the end od my penis. I'm circumsizing my kids and there's nothing you can do about it.

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"Doesn't do any damage..." someone who's uncircumcised post the same pic and let's compare

i got cut as a baby and i dont have trauma. liberal scum

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Check out my circumsized diiiiiick

>>743019845
I don't know why but l can remember being circumsized as a baby it felt cold and like metal a sharp sting it was really quick. l cried like a baby

>>743030920
Why did you get your kid mutilated?


Unless there was a medical reason, you basically wounded your child and permanently scarred his dick because of cultural tradition. What's the point?

If I kick you hard in the balls the suffering might only be temporary, but I still kicked you in the balls didn't I.

It's an act of cruelty on a child too young to agree to it. And that makes you a shitty dad.

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>>743025007
lol.

i'm white. all my friends are white. I'm from an upper middle class family, and grew up in Southern California.

All the boys from weight training in high school showered together. We were all uncut except for two mexican kids.

It's less uncommon than you make it seem.

It's a slowly dying trend that's going out along with the religions that supported the idea from the get-go.

>>743030938
That's great. Doesn't mean it's right to put baby boys through an unnecessary mutilation of their dick, though. Just because 'you're glad'.

Wait until they're old enough to decide for themselves before you pay to have someone chop bits off them.

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>>743028424
>>743028465
what the fuck are they doing

>>743030920
are you the mom? go get your clit removed dumb cunt
are you the dad? you're probably already circumsised and a dumb cunt

>>743019845
>"Circumcision did not become a common medical procedure in the Anglophone world until the late 19th century. At that time, British and American doctors began recommending it primarily as a deterrent to masturbation."

Basically it was meant to stop guys fapping. Considering how many Americans on here are probably circumcised, and how half the threads revolve around porn... I'd say it failed.

I'm not circumcised when I masturbate my foreskin rolls back and forth over my penis. I can hold it back and run the head without lube this sucks. How the fuck do circumcised dudes even jack off without have a tub of lube on standby? And it's nowhere near as good a feeling as with the foreskin.

>>743031333
I say this as a person that, if I was gay or a woman, I would probably prefer uncut dicks. With that said....

His son will thank him later when he isn't struggling to get pussy if he lives in the USA.

Every girl I've met, dated, or been friends with had a negative reaction to uncircumcised dicks. All the way from literally gagging, to a "well, it's not what I wanted, but I'll do it anyway" situation. I have a friend who is turning 30 and is still a virgin, partially from being uncircumcised. Every girl who got close enough to see his dick noped the fuck out of there. I feel bad for him.

Some people may like uncircumcised but it's not the norm here in the states. It's kinda like how some dudes like huge nipples or other more uncommon features on women. Other countries might not be as affected, but here in the states it is what it is.

>>743019845
I'm circumcised and I couldn't be happier. Uncircumcised cocks look disgusting, not to mention the dick cheese.

>>743019845
On the plus side though, your dick won't look like an ant-eaters snout

>>743031689
Biting of the foreskin they eat it gives them their power.

>>743031797
>How the fuck do circumcised dudes even jack off without have a tub of lube on standby?


yeah i thought it was weird when watching american comedy movies how they always spoke about using lube when jerking off. then i found out later on it must be because they need it because they're circumcised.

>>743031797
I'm circumcised, and I never use lube. I don't understand this meme. The skin still moves up and over the head and down again. If you saw it in person it would look nearly exactly the same as your dick when masturbating.

>>743031898
t. cut dude.

i'm uncut and have had a life filled with different pussies, and most came back for more.

>Every girl who got close enough to see his dick noped the fuck out of there.

That's never happened to someone who 1) was retarded and wouldnt stop wetting himself or 2) with a prostitute.

Girls just don't go on another date, they don't just take off at the first glimpse of something they don't like -- unless you're a WAY deformed water-headed moron

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>>743019845
I JUST orgasmed by only playing with my foreskin. Circumcision is a crime. Cut your dad's balls off for him doing this to you, then stab your doctor for breaking his oath.

>>743032052
I'm uncut. My boyfriend isn't.

They look and feel totally different during masturbation.

I can post A/B testing pictures if you need.

>>743032052
Exactly, and I don't know where people are getting these botched circumcisions at. Anyways I personally enjoy lasting longer with my girl. If the only perk is I'm more sensitive and have to wash my dick even MORE then no thanks

>>743032052
a partial circumcision

>>743032304
Post

>>743032052
Sounds like your rabi was drunk.

>>743032191
To be fair I've never seen his dick, so maybe he is deformed or something that he doesn't realize. I have no idea. All I know is he's uncircumcised and he's complained about it causing him trouble with women. He got a hand job one time but when he tried to push it further the girl denied.

Otherwise, he gets tinder sluts, takes them out, etc. As soon as they hit the bedroom the girls nope the fuck outta there. OR, as soon as they start sexting and he sends the dick pick, they stop talking to him.

It's kinda fucked up actually. I feel bad for him.

Sorry that your cock's a Jew, m8

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>>743032304
Do it fagot!

>>743032412
The perk is not cutting parts off little boy's penises for no reason because muh traditions.

That's the perk.

Mutilating your son's cock because he might last longer in the bedroom is pretty fucked up reasoning, don't you think?

>>743031898

Exactly, I'm not having my kid lose quality of life over something he won't even remember or miss.

I've had plenty of success with my cut-dick, and it's the norm here in the States to have it. You people are literally going to hurt your kid's future sex-life and social life. If it was the norm? fine I'd leave it uncut. But my job as a parent is to prepare him for adulthood as much as possible. And that includes making sure he is up to society's standards.

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>>743019845

I'm disappointed in you.

>>743031958
I guarantee you you've beaten off to plenty of porn featuring uncircumcised cocks. You usually can't tell the difference when they're hard.

>>743019845
Victim here... The dick gets too desensitised. People say you can last longer... But this is worth nothing. For i will never feel a pusy the way healthy dicks will.

I literaly could grind my dick over gravel without feeling much.

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>>743032564
That is because women have been brain washed by Jew propaganda that uncircumcised men carry disease and are dirty.

>>743032789
How about waiting until he's old enough to actually understand the operation and able to agree to it before having it? Or would that just be way too reasonable for your uncivilized ass?

>>743032801
>meatus
kek

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>>743021718
Between this and OP, you've both scarred me with these kind of images. Thanks a bunch!

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I kek at all you uncut fags with it sensitive smelly dicks and foreskins. Pic of my cut master race dick

>>743032789
Wow you really care about how your sons dick looks. That's unbelievable. Not your body, not your choice to make a decision that will permanently alter the A E T H E S T I C of his body.

>>743033178
Ok then, Soo glad your willing to properly clean your child's cock till he's 6-7 years old. The projected time needed to clean them before they are fully integrated with the rutine. I'm sure a mother touching their sons cock at 6 isn't sexually confusing at all.

>>743033178

Because the operation actually DOES become a pain in the ass and can be extremely painful once you're older. I was explained this by the doctor when my kid was born. Like I said, he won't miss it, it didn't leave any emotional scar, and it'll only help him to be up to society's standards. Then again, you're probably a fat Neet who can never achieve that standard yourself. So you wouldn't understand (:

>>743032564
>To be fair I've never seen his dick, so maybe he is deformed or something that he doesn't realize.

Yeah or maybe he has a micropenis. Maybe his dick stinks. Maybe he has zero game in the bedroom. Who the fuck knows. Your anecdote is shitty as evidence for why baby boys need to have a piece of their penis cut off...

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>>743019845
Some folks do it because of the Covenant of Abraham. I got snipped and I am not particularly bothered by it.

Course I will never have kids so I am not passing that on.

But I think that is really a matter of choice that should be left up to the parents.

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>>743033154
I sincerely don't know how circumcision took hold of America, it's not even a Christian ritual. The vagina produces twice as much smegma as an uncircumcised penis, regularly gets yeast and UTI infections, and roast flaps look disgusting.

Circumcision makes a vagina look better.
Circumcision makes a vagina cleaner.

but female circumcision is literally hitler and illegal to practice.

America is surely the worst country, all the wealth and access to knowledge, and we lack even the basest of human reasoning.

>>743033525
Have you never seen someone change a diaper? On a male or female baby sexual organs are gonna get touched
jesus christ how can you be that dumb, even when washing the baby in the bath, do you think you're not going to wash below the waist because ewwww?

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>>743033676
What about removing ears?
What about removing nails?
What about removing a toe?

Would it be acceptable to leave this up to the parents?

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>>743033705
>it's not even a Christian ritual.
Umm actually yes it is.

>>743033705
You should probably read about gynocentrism

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>>743033617

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>>743019845
>this barbaric practice.

>>743033711
Baby's aren't the problem. The need for proper cleaning doesn't go away because they aren't wearing diapers anymore. You don't want to take your 6 year old to the hospital with a phimosis infected penis because his parents didn't want to clean him. But genital contact at that age can cause serious sexual confusion.

>>743033851
ummm no sweetie

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>>743033827
Yes, not that there is any particular call for it in religious perspective. But parents are the law until a child reaches the age of majority or is emancipated and I so not presume to enforce my will nor do I support government interference in either case.

>>743033525
>Soo glad your willing to properly clean your child's cock till he's 6-7 years old

Yeah I am. You know most men who aren't Muslims, Jews or Americans are uncircumcised, right? Uncircumcised men don't all have Oedipus complexes because their mothers helped them clean themselves during bathing when they were toddlers. And it's a 2 second deal, not some industrial scale undertaking. You have to literally wipe the shit from their asses when their babies, and you're being squeamish about keeping your kid's genitals clean?

You're way too immature to have a kid right now, so please don't.

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>>743034147
I'm pro circumcision and even I know it's a Jewish and African ritual adopted by American medical professionals to reduce a child's chances of phimosis later down the line.

>>743034035
You realize if this were an actual problem it would be seen in the billions of people that are uncircumcised.

Even if I take that at face value that phimosis is an epidemic
The top 10 research papers on google scholar even explicitly state that circumcision is unnecessary for most cases of phimosis e.g https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3329654/

>>743034248
By this logic child sacrifice shouldn't be illegal

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>>743034147
Um yes honey. Christ did not do away with any Hebrew tradition and so if you follow part of the covenant you follow all of it. I mean again I would not enforce my will on any parent but if they are religious I am not going to stand in their way. If you want to sacrifice a lamb still in atonement? Then is not my place to interfere.

>>743034352
>Pro circumcision
for niggers in Africa, right?

>>743034542
Again by this logic child "rape" and sacrifice are a -okay

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>>743034542
>>743034248
b8/10

>>743034352
Medicine is done by cost benefit, removing your boobs age 10 may also stop breast cancer

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>>743019845
>lifelong psychological damage

only you op, chicks don't give a fuck about foreskin as much as you think. later, smegma fag.

sage

>>743034808
kek'd

>>743033617
>Then again, you're probably a fat Neet who can never achieve that standard yourself. So you wouldn't understand (:

Weak insult, anon. I'm employed, and European, and married. I'm right up to the standards of my society.

You keep justifying your bizarre outdated rituals instead of trying to challenge them if it makes you feel better.

You'd justify snipping off the clitoral hood of your own daughter if society told you it's in fashion. Kowtowing like a bitch.

>>743019845
Boo-hoo, only victim mentality crybabies bitch about circumcision. As a circumcised guy, I'm quite grateful that my parents had the intelligence to do so. I have enough sensitivity as it is and frankly wouldn't want more! But, I don't have to worry about cheese dick, getting infections like a woman and the general unpleasantness. I've seen and read all the shit from your side and really couldn't give a fuck. Kids of mine will be circumcised, deal with it.

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>>743034507
It isn't in temple..

There are tons of traditions I disagree with. Heck I object to abortion as birth control. But if it isn't my child? I am not going to get involved especially in regard to giving government more power or creating more laws. If I am going to get my hackles in a bunch it will be in regard to corporations and there seemingly unlimited powers and the inability of Mom and Pops business to compete. I would be more offended by mandatory insurance products like health and auto then I would because some parent want to have their son snipped.

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>>743034733
Circumcision would cause a higher number of complications than naturally occurring phimosis.

It would be like taking an x-ray of yourself every day for 20 years to screen for tuberculosis.

>>743034352
2% of normal males continue to have non-retractability throughout life even though they are otherwise normal

98% chance of not getting it uncircumcised

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3329654/

>>743022047
Fuckin jews

>>743034962
That was my point, yours was better made ;)

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>>743034926
>heh, I object to violating parents' rights even though it violates childrens' rights. You can't be wrong if you don't take a side, children aren't people.

>>743034352
It was adopted to dissuade boys from masturbating. Fact.

>>743033851
Is this a bait post? It's a fucking Jewish ritual not Christian fag

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>>743034623
Where are you going with the rape BS?

Neither Judaism or Christianity support rape. Islam? Well they fucked up most of the rules and called them laws and their Imams tend towards the whole "do what I say and not what I do BS." Still enforcing the LAW is Gods business not mine. That is Religions law. If you run a red light? I support your getting a ticket.

But lets be honest "what so ever man toucheth he corrupts." I am all for a serious reduction and rewriting of the law. Focusing on limiting the rights and power of corporations and the top 1% of the richest folks.

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>>743034662
Nope I am well known as the Parrot Guy around /b/... I do not joke around on matters of religious freedom. I am completely serious in my comments.

>>743019845
Keep doing god's work OP

>>743035618
4/10.
Stop while you're still getting (you)'s

>>743034882

Claims to understand and argue American society norms.

Is European.

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>>743035210
I said what I said and I stand by it rather than your BS.. Children's rights? They have nees that should be met. Food Water Clothing Shelter Educations as long as those are provided I say back the fuck off.. Besides moat of the conservatives I talk with are against abortion and welfare. Unwilling to adopt or support the kids i any way. So pro birth and then fuck the baby, not our problem! At least I care if their needs are met. What I am not, is a hypocritical busy body.

>>743035408
low quality b8

>>743035021
The Jews aren't the worst ones doing it. They're openly fucking nuts. Religious delusions, divine rituals. None of it makes any sense but at least they're consistently nonsensical.

It's the atheists doing it just because it's the thing to do. They're the worst. They don't even have some magic man in the sky pressuring them to do it. They just wanna do it because everybody else does.

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>>743033525
Your cock naturally flushes out excess smegma when you piss, retard. It's practically impossible for a man to get a urinary infection.

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>>743035366
Christ did not say he was here to end ANY Hebrew rituals read your Bible. He was a Rabbi..

Perhaps he ended sacrifice? But only because God never wanted blood and suffering of animals from us. He wanted us to be merciful enough to STOP SINNING!

>>743035366
For the billionth time.

Jew started doing it because other cultures of the ancient time did it. And they'd target Jews because of their dicks. So Jews like always. Got in on the fad and convinced other Jews that god said so. Religion has been rewritten so many times...

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>>743036081
>Atheists doing it to fit in
>Christians violating their own faith and conviction because their banker told them to do it
Both are wrong but one is worse

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>>743035755
I reply to all comments to me, perhaps it is a failing. Or perhaps I enjoy that my honesty rustles their jimmies.

>>743033025
Maybe, but I cringe whenever I see foreskin being pulled back, I'd honestly rather sit through a gore/rekt thread than a foreskin thread.

>>743035972
I lived in the US for 5 years.

But regardless, when you see FGM of little girls - clitoral removal, genitals sewn up, justified by 'cultural practice', in places like Egypt and Sudan, you're telling me you don't judge? You don't think 'that's fucked up, why are they doing that?'

Same thing here.

Don't need to be your neighbour to know you're fucked up.

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>>743036077
No bait here as I already said but the inability of so many to follow proper etiquette in a thread amuses me. You enter a thread read from the top down and then reply so as to avoid saying the same crap comments over over and over.

>>743022903
How is systematized genital mutilation "rhetorical"?

I get it -- your dick is ruined and your sad. I would be too. You have my sincere sympathies. I just want you to do your small part, like the rest of us, to make sure no more children are mutilated like that.

why would you let God to cut your peepee?

>>743036711
2/10

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>>743036333
Bull puckey.

First off at the time of the Covenant of Abraham the Hebrew people existed it was not until Jacob was renamed ISRAEL that his sons including Judah were Born JEW is a far more modern term and what they teach is NOT Gods laws. Many Jews are Hebrews not all Hebrews are Jews.

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>>743036504
>I cringe whenever I see foreskin being pulled back
That's a normal response from a heterosexual man. Is that supposed to make circumcision okay?

>>743036519
You're using extremes to compare to and argue a minor procedure to improve quality of life in the States. Stop grasping at straws you Cuck.

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>>743036939
Nonsense. Fake meme or news.

The idea that you shoop a picture does not make it a fact.

>>743019845
Not gonna bother reading, cuz this reeks of bait.
So, here's the thing. I'm circumcised. My brother isn't. Women I've asked have all said they prefer their men circumcised. He is planning to have it done. If you don't want it done to you, don't get it done.

>>743036722
These guys don't like hearing objections towards circumcision because they don't like having their sensitive worldview challenged

they don't want to think it's wrong, because it was done to them, and they're fine with it, and they want to do it to their sons too. they don't want to feel like they're victims or they're continuing something ethically questionable and cruel. because then they'd feel guilty, and question their parents' decision. so they'd rather just put their fingers in their ears and carry on cutting their children coz it's the way it's always been done (well commonly for around 150 years in america, so not always). denial.

>>743037039
No I'm simply explaining how you can object to a cultural practice in one country without having to actually be from there, and without losing the moral high ground in the process.

And cuck is so fucking 2015, anon. Update your lexicon.

>>743037149


The study, by researcher Dan Bollinger, concluded that approximately 117 neonatal deaths due directly or indirectly to circumcision occur annually in the United States, or one out of every 77 male neonatal deaths.

>>743037509
Continuing to grasp at as many straws as you can. I'm sure you can suck just fine without all those Anon.

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>>743037149
not the OP but have a read https://www.circinfo.org/USA_deaths.html

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>>743037539
From the site to which you link.

Disclaimer: This site does not purport to provide medical advice. If you are seeking medical advice you should consult a properly qualified physician.

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>>743037796
see >>743037945

>>743037039
llulz. you think cutting off an integral part of your genitals, the part with more nerve endings that anywhere else on your body... is a "minor procedure". You've been convinced by cucks who started doing it in the US in the 19th century in an effort to stop masturbation.

and you think WE'RE the cucks? superlulz

>>743037776
Calling people cucks and saying they're grasping at straws isn't winning the argument. How old are you?

Your country's cultural tradition of cutting baby dicks is fucked up. And you're not doing a brilliant job of proving otherwise anon.

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>>743037945
It was a study of deaths not a medical journal

Cutfag reporting in. My parents had me cut and we have discussed it before... They aren't religious at all. Their reason for having me cut was that it's a lot more sanitary. I replied with something along the lines of "I can understand the sanitation issue if we were back a hundred years when showers were none existent for most of civilization. There were a lot of illnesses that existed back THEN also that were related to hygienic reasons but we as a civilization have came past those times. Either way, you could have showed me how to clean properly.


I wish i wasn't cut. I've herd you can loose up to 50% feeling. It literally is a sex organ. Hey, why dont we cut off womans clits? They still have the rest of the vagina for pleasure? Like fuck.

Every woman i've talked too likes a cut man for "sanitary" reasons or because it's "hot" but i think everyone really is stuck back 100 fucking years.

>>743037945
lol a 'does not provide medical advice' disclaimer doesn't discount the actual research.

it just means the site is not a web doctor. it can't look at pics of that yeast patch on your ass and tell you how to treat it.

use some common sense

>>743038143
I looked at it, was malarky..

>Dr Suman Sood deregistered for ten years by NSW Medical Board for misconduct in relation to both abortion and circumcision, including an excessive incidence of circumcision complications. Details at www.nswmb.org.au/ system/files/f10/f20/o585//SOOD.pdf NSW Medical Board determination 774 of 2005, 6 October 2006.

KILL JEWS

The head generally becomes more sensitive causing you to cum faster, when you have foreskin. Op is a beta fag who cums at the slightest touch.

>>743038315
No such thing anymore as COMMON SENSE it is actually uncommon especially here at /b/...

And that site is hyperbolic at best.

It has an agenda that makes me glad it is Aussie and not USA.

>>743038081
You have officially taken all of my straws with your graspy hands Anon. I only have this one Krazy Straw left, but you're more than welcome to it.

>>743038308
At least you'll be the one to end the tradition in your family, as opposed to all these other sheep who just blindly do what was done to them.

Good on you for being rational.

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>>743019845
>lifelong psychological damage

>>743038676
Nope. You got nothing. Zero debating skills. Just a bag of 'cucks' and 'straws'. I hope you never have a son.

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>>743019845
the foreskin makes a dick looks much thicker which women like a lot

>>743038725
You are right. This world is full of irrational sheep. I do plan on ending it.

>>743021502
and that circumcision actually does not decrease the risk of penile cancer so long as you have basic hygiene.

people don't shower as it is! Ever been on a bus?

>>743038043
this

>>743038973
As if there's any debating with your ass while it's rubbing against the high-horse's cock.

Here's from experience.
I myself, am a Circo. Of course.
At birth my excess foreskin was snipped.
I do not need lube to fap.
I do not cum easier.
Girls will openly tell you your penis is nicer than a non-circo's. (Even if they dont know who you are underneath) clothes.
Therefore, go and get your babies Circo'd they will thank you later.
I can't speak for people who do it later in life sorry. I feel bad for ugly uncircos though.. sorry not sorry

>>743021586
>women with actual labia are fine who cares
>cut all the foreskins off gosh

dis negro cereal?

>>743039377
denial is a powerful drug

honestly you don't know what you're missing

>>743039259
and that even with no hygiene the increased risk is less than negligible.

shit

>>743039377
>sorry not sorry
what is this, instagram? you'll be hashtagging next...

European and British girls think circumcised dicks are disgusting. They've grown up with normal and unmutated penis'. Do not let Jews touch your babies penis.

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>>743039002
the foreskin actually acts as a sheath sliding forward and back along the whole penis as you fuck which makes for a better experience for both, unless your lady would rather be rammed by an insensitive piece of plastic in which case just cut your whole dick off and use a strap on.

>>743039564
I do deny anything.
I simply do not know how it would feel you are right. But I'm also perfectly fine without it. Thanks faggot

Africa cuts women CLITORIS (which is a small penis)

USA as of revenge (USA is Feminist) started cutting Boys foreskin, after USA foundation

So, we men, will accept this??? NO !!!

>>743039732
Don't speak to dubs that way newfag.
Suck my ass

>>743039774
It's not mutated u fucking tard it's a surgery

>>743039946
Ok this is just retarded. Go to bed.

>>743039946
fuck off mohamed

>>743039774
it's funny half or more of the girls I've been with didn't even know I was uncircumcised. I mean to be fair I'm an oldfag and that was pre normie internet but seriously they didn't even realize there was a difference in my dick and anyone else they'd fucked.

also another point about sensitivity, even though you think it feels as good I've found girls really like it that I can really feel delicate blowjobs and it's not just a slamfest in another hole. Contrary to porn belief girls don't want a dildo for a lover, they can get pounded by a dildo.

>>743039941
Do not deny***

I think less of my sister because she got her son cut.

My father is uncut. My brothers and I were spared the blade because my mother knew better.

Yet the lesson was lost on her. I want to confront her about it but it's literally pointless because it's already happened. So all I can do is live with the disappointment.

>>743040064
i'm guessing anon was aiming for 'unmutilated' but fucked up

>>743040264
Thought so too. Well he best learn better English the dumbfuck

>>743040064
Mutilated

>>743019845

Why do most people in US get their kids circumcised? how did this even start?

In UK it is very rare anyone has this done. I am pretty sure its the same on mainland Europe

What happened in America to start this?

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>>743039941
take something soft
brush it lightly on the back of your hand
feels pretty fucking soft eh?
I mean you can tell it's soft, maybe even make out if it's fuzzy.
I mean the back of your hand you feel just fine, no mistaking the sensation, the object felt brushing your skin right?

now do the same thing to your fingertips.

>the back of your hand is your just fine cut dick
>your fingertips are a foreskin

now you know what you're missing. well that and this.

>>743040175
Find something else to worry about. Don't let this mainstream and controversial problem between a bunch of Shitheads online hurt your relationship with your sister. You're getting dragged into the troll to far you Retard.

>>743040154
Well the girls I know don't like the dry cut off dick

>>743040406
in the 1800s British and Americans encouraged the practice after seeing Jews doing it because they thought it would stop boys masturbating. that's the story i heard anyway

>>743039946
what's actually funny about this is, if you suggested trimming girls labia to prevent "unsightly and unhygenic" beef curtains for a cleaner better looking pussy the fucking country would go fucking APE SHIT.

but boys? it's ok to do the same thing to boys.

>>743040693
People already do this to girls Retard. Go fuck a few and see for yourself.

>>743040643
>>743040643

Do people who are cut need lube to wack it?

I never use lube, but I can't imagine rubbing my hand that fast over my bell end, it wouldn't feel good. People who are cut would have to have seriously desensitised dicks to be able to do it without lube.

>>743040969
No. we don't need lube either. We can slide our hand up and down our cocks just as we do our finger. It's still a penis and plenty sensitive.

>>743040529
My fingertips are calloused cause I work with my hands but i understand.

I feel like if you're worried your sons gonna have a small pecker then do him a favor and don't get him cut cause he needs the girth am I right??
If you've got a good one then do as you wish

>>743040175
This. My uncle and dad were cut. My uncle slept with 1000s of men. Probably more. In fact he was one of the original wave of AIDS cases in fags. He was an absolute whore for dick.

And he told my parents that there was a definite difference in men with cut and uncut, the uncut consistently more sensitive and more satisfied.

So my brother and I escaped the knife.

Then my brother married a chick who believes every 50s wives tale and it was clear she felt like circumcision prevented disease, masturbation, homosexual tendencies, and everything else that's ever been fronted for the purpose.

In any case less than an hour after his second kid popped out a boy I confronted him an said "Look I think if you're going to let him be cut, you should damn well get it done to yourself." I felt like that was a pretty fair argument but he said
>too late it's already done.

The bitch knew my family was opposed so she demanded they do it first fucking thing. It was soul crushing and I literally had trouble changing his diapers because his mutilated little bare dick was so fucking sad. I mean it feels bad, I think less of my nephew, and it's not his fault, but it's true.

>>743041223
Well surely you have enough skin to move right? I'm a Circo but my skin still moves.. there's just not excess

>>743019845
I fucking hate activists. Fuck your cause.

>>743041670
Yes, the skin can move. But it doesn't because I don't death-grip my cock while masturbating.

>>743040592

It's literally not a meme. She had no say in that operation, it was not her body. She and her husband had no right to decide what to do to his body.

>>743040406
>>743040643
anti-masturbation, denial/habit in the overly prudent medical field, and then the pharmaceutical companies. They collect and use all the tissue in the never ending quest to cure male baldness. It's their lobbying dollars that keep the practice alive today.

>>743041223
yeah I can do that too when I've pulled back and let my head dry out. but having a foreskin is like having a built in fleshlight. nobody is saying you can't jack off when you're a cutfag, it's just not the same, not even with lotion.

>>743041451
no I'm worried that you're going to be so scared that you're actually inferior for being cut that you won't admit it's better to be uncut when your sons come along and therefore cut them to prove there is nothing wrong with yourself.

>>743041881
Ya but the friction hurts man? Unless you have angelic hands bro that would he weird..?

>>743041670
moving a little and nailed down at one end is slightly different than having a whole stretchy tube to run up and down your cock, plus the tube itself feels fucking amazing.

>>743041950
It's not unheard of for parents to make decisions for their young. They actually make decisions for them with nearly everything. Whether a cut or uncut dick, what clothes they wear, what their haircut is. Not everyone makes the perfect decisions. But you're obsessing over your nephews dick more than the parents or the kid ever will be. Move on and forget the meme. There's a million reasons for both sides of this argument and everyone thinks they are doing right. Step away from the trolls and hug your damn sister.

>>743041986
and I forgot men who have been brainwashed into believing cut is somehow superior and that women like it more.

STOP THIS MUTILATION

My theory is that the foreskin was an evolutionary trait to make raping easier since it would make it easier to fuck a dry pussy.

>>743042335
you must be uncut. cutfags are desensitized. I mean imagine for a second those times you pulled back your foreskin and dropped your mushroom in your drawers with no protection but all the time forever. a little friction would be nothing, plus the cutfag head is all dried out all the time.

>>743042335
Does it hurt when you rub your finger? Stroke it up and down you faggot, as fast as you can. That's right. It didn't hurt. Same with the cock, it just has magical things on it that make it feel good when you stroke it and not just warm.

>>743031788
It doesn't stop them fapping, but it makes it a lot less fun.

>>743042202
Honestly man. Everyone thinks o care so much about everything but lemme be the first to tell ya.. I don't really give a shit ma dude.. I make my girl cum and then I cum and at the end of the night that's my goal lol..
If I do have sons.. I don't care if they get cut or don't, that could be up to the lady for all I care.
So get out of here with your superiority complex bullshit trying to compensate for shit lmao you fucking losers make me laugh

Now I feel mutilated, right when I was about to go whack one out I realized that being a cutfag sucks

>>743019845
OP for the win.
Today OP was not a fag...I think

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>>743042644
>cutfags don't feel any different
>compares rubbing dick to rubbing finger

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>>743019845
>cutting off a sexual organ,

botched circumcision, pic related

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>>743042671
You keep responding like you care.
You're in this thread like you care.

And I made your girl cum to, so what?

>>743042635
It means you can fap mote times a day than a cut can..so watch all the porn you want and YOU desensitized yourself and you won't be able to cum when you're with a real girl.. me Idgaf lol and no circos don't have dried out dicks are you fun stupid? Just think about what u just said

>>743042934
pop that motherfucker like a tick
>bolts slide right off

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>>743043033
Fat nerd sitting behind his computer wishing he could get the taste of a real girl

>>743042424

I should have mentioned that I don't hate her and still treat her like my sister, I am just greatly disappointed in her decisions. Clothing and haircuts aren't comparable to an act that literally removes part of you that can't grow back. It was a permanent decision that they made for him immediately after he was born, before he knew what the fuck was going on, and before he could say "Hey fuck no"

>>743043046
Actually I've always been a one and done, whether fapping or with a chick.

Also congrats on not being gay because you clearly don't know the first thing about penises.

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>>743043252
ikr it's like they can't even fathom what they did in ignorance, what was lost

>>743021586
Muh anecdotal evidence

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>>743042934
Youch.

SHIT WOMEN

>>743043252
Coming from me, and pretty much every other guy i met who is circumcised. No one actually cares. Everyone is happy with their dick. The majority of people arguing this on the internet don't care outside forums or they're just trolling. I've fucked men and woman and no one has ever expressed they've given a shit either way. You're too adamant about a cause that no on actually cares about. Only people who care about it are the people who get fussed up on Reddit or troll discussion on 4Chan about it. Also, you might have seen people say they feel like they've been mutilated. Those are trolls.