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Oh boy, ready for this one? > Be me, 35 years old, married

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Oh boy, ready for this one?

> Be me, 35 years old, married to a 8/9 out of 10 25 year old for the last 6 years.
> She gets prescribed a drug 2 years ago that had some shitty side effects.
> Her libido is completely gone. Sex is painful for her now.
> Dr.'s say she may never get better, she now has vaginismus.
> Spend the last 2 years having sex only 3 or 4 times, terrible each time.
> She definitely isn't cheating and doesn't want a divorce.
> Still love each other, sad at loss of physical connection. I feel depressed.
> Earlier this year she suggests I get a mistress for sex. She's serious. Finally agree.
> Hundreds of messages sent through OKCupid, Plenty of Fish, Craigslist, ect.
> Meet and hook up with 5 different girls over the last 6 months, a couple more than once.
> The sex is pretty bland. Condoms suck.
> The effort put into finding these girls is ridiculous.
> Would rather have sex with my wife. Can't. Still love each other.
> Still need some sort of physical connection to someone. Can't get rid of sexual needs.

So, this situation sucks. What would you do? Would you keep trying to find a mistress, and what's a better way to do it? Or would you get a divorce? Is there another option here I'm not seeing?

Pic related, it's her.
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Why not find another drug?
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She should be giving bjs weekly. If not, time to bolt. She should also be trying anal.

She's not putting in effort.
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Blowjobs and anal!
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>>742915028

Possible permanent damage cause thinning of the vaginal wall, thus painful sexual intercourse. Also killed her sex drive.
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>>742914849
have you tried the butt?
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>>742915076

We tried this. Not bad, but not sustainable.
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Go to massage parlors. Get a decent massage and a handie for 100 bucks.
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>>742915261
No handie in the world is worth 100 dollars
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post pussy pics of her.. i would def keep fucking other chicks
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>>742915134
Yeah, so talk to other doctors, maybe experts in the field and get other opinions.
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>>742915261

Completely boring. And gross. And not safe. And eventually expensive.
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Does she have a sister?
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>>742915388
Massage plus handie. Usually a dollar a minute for a massage is standard, 40 buck tip for the handie. These women are real cocksmiths, they leave me feeling like I have no cum left in the tank
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>>742915503

Went to 3 doctors, her side effects are real. We are also looking into legal action because of this.
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>>742915608

If you can bust a nut just from getting a hand job then your sexual experiences must be limited. After years of wild raw dog sex going back to a "mutual masturbation" session ain't going to cut it.
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Have you tried seeing a physiotherapist that specializes in pelvic floor therapy?
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>>742915943

Actually have a Dr appointment for this next month, or something similar.
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Super-cali-fragilistic-expi-vaginismus
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>>742915812
I don't think you really know how good these women are. I am married, have sex several times a week, but every so often I need a mid 40s cocksmith working all the kinks out. Handjobs are better than sex sometimes since there is directed pressure in all the right spot and you don't have to do anything
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BJ, handjob, tittyfucking.

There are alternatives.

Also, there are treatments that can often help vaginismus.
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Bring the fucking whore home with you. Make her your cuckquean or simply have her join you guys, her clit still works right?
It's not that fucking difficult, if she is unable to take a dick and if she's OK with you fucking around just get her to want to fuck you and the hoes. When you're done you can even keep them in bed and have your three-way pillow talk
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>>742916235

I've been to massage parlors all over the world. Handjobs are boring at best. Sex is necessary for a nut.
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>>742914849

People enjoy sex with other people because they enjoy seeing that person enjoying themselves. It's like verification of that person's appreciation of who you think you are; e.g. someone desirable who can make other's happy. Find someway to do this and maybe you can stop being obsessed with the sex act.
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>>742916437
To each their own. My first gf was a tiny jewess that stroked like she was parting the red Sea. Her pussy was nice, but her double handed handjobs were divine. I guess since my sexual life started this way I have always appreciated a good old fashioned
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So I'd oral from you off the table?
What about escorts or sex toys (plastic pussys or ass molds)?
You've peaked my curiosity my friend.
Got more pics of your wife?
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>>742916516
Fuck me this is shallow
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>>742914849
Perhaps if you're a good boy all year long, you can write a letter to Father Vaginismus who might solve your issue
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>>742916756
Yes this, need to see the front of your wife
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>>742915134
Name of drug?
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>>742915076
Serious don't get the problem she can do anal, hj and bj. Trying to find a slut to fuck is tricky. You will get some crazy bitch or AIDs.
>>742915812
You must be doing it wrong.

I would take her to other DRs. You said possible not Will Be. Also if she gets back to being normal you just opened a can you can't close as she will want to get dick. Go buy a rubber ass pussy thing, one of those real sex dolls, go to LV get a hooker, encourage hj, bj and anal. Does going down on her hurt her?
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OP, still here, still looking for answers. This is a pretty awful situation to be living in.

Another pic.
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>>742914849
Same age and situation as you. Try casual sex with coworkers. My young loving wife is ridiculously hot and fit as well, and has also told me too sleep around.
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>>742917081
Front op?
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>>742914849
anal with silicone lube
like srsly
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>>742917081
Have her find you a mistress. You can then group play, she can blow you and get you revved up to plow the other woman
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Find a little. Someone to have at your home that you two treat like a pet or whatever. Teach your wife how to be dominant with your new pet and you fuck the pet hard. Win win.
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>>742915076
>>742915191
>pic related
or just start drinking heavily and kill you libido too, that way you can have a wonderful, purely platonic relationship with you wife
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>>742917184

What will you do?
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>>742916424
Directed to this faggot op
So we'll just disregard the alpha solution
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>>742917266
Try some swinger sites with a unicorn looking for couple play .
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Tits or gtfo OP.

I have the answers that you seek
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>>742916786

He's not wrong though
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>>742914849
Convince her you need a sister-wife to move in.
Someone you can be comfortable cumming into w/o condom.
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I don't get it.

You love your wife.
But you also did fuck someone even tho she knew, and you know that this makes people really depressed.
She can't be with you anymore the same way.
Yet you would rather satisfy your sexuality with someone else and hurt her even more than go and fuck your hand during shower.

Like how can you be this fucking retarded?
Bitch get a fucking fleshlight or something.

God, you people are retarded af.
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>>742914849
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>>742917081
Nice so far. Rip her little ass apart. Can she have kids still?
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>>742917081
something off about those shoulders
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>>742915642
I would definitely pursue legal action! Cruel and unusual side-effect. I feel bad for you bro; she looks like a stunner.
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>>742914849
Is she bi? If so you might be able to get a ffm going.
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>>742917672
she's probably a cunt who refuses pleasing him in any way since she now derives no pleasure.

otherwise she'd be alternating BJs and buttsecks and prostate-enhanced-jerk-off sessions for him. like any good frigid wife would do
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>>742917672
Exactly this. I have a female friend whose husband developed a spinal fluid condition a year into their marriage. It means he's been in near constant pain and bedridden for the past 4 years. They can't have sex and she wipes his ass and feeds him.

Man up OP you dicksplash and care for your wife
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Hello

This is a good chance to live sanctity in marriage for you. Yes, it's frustrating but a PURE love

A really hard thing to find these days

I am myself looking forward to couple with this cute asexual girl friend of mine. Im doing it because flesh gets old for the wise and sane and I want somebody that loves with her mind and spirit
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wtf? oral/anal sex today not physical or what?
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>>742914849
>wat do

Two options the way I see it.

A: find a new drug, with better side effects. I'd you can't then move on to option B.

B: you don't need sex, you need something sexual from her. Let's be honest, sex tends to be a bland thing if it isn't taboo or isn't with the person you love. But you can't have sex as its painful for her. So get her to try and put in the effort into doing something sexual with you, wether it's as simple as a Bj or a quick handjob. If she gets into it, get her to use toys on you.

Just because she can't have sex doesn't mean a sex life is destroyed.
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>>742918255
Bait. Go kys, fag boi.
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>>742916786
I kek'd
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>>742914849
You cant buy a magic wand and a fleshlight and beat off together?
Get some fucking molly or acid or even weed, too, they even use molly in some forms of therapy, it'll be hella good for your intimacy and might lead to a libidinous atmosphere, but definitely kissing and cuddling
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Uhm, vaginimus is 99% "curable". https://www.vaginismus.com/
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>>742914849
Get treated for depression. Apart from that I have no suggestions. I would give up sex in any form to have someone I love and loves me back.
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>>742917081
Is it painful to her if you give her oral?
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What was the drug that did this?
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OP my math says you picked up this chick when you were around 29 and she was maybe 20??

What is your secret? I am in my mid 30s and want to land an early 20s fuck buddy.

Money???
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THE PHARMACEUTICALS COMPANIES DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU

your dr is too busy or doesnt care what he is prescribing
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>>742917081
What this guy said OP
>>742918551

Your wife can put effort in elsewhere. Explain to her that you have needs and that sex with other women is just hollow and makes you feel more isolated from her. Explain that your understand that you can't have sex with her and that's fine, but also explain she could use toys, her hands, mourh etc and that you'd like to try some of it just to see how it goes.

Worse comes to worse you make a deal, she helps you out sexually even if she has no interest nor libido, and you try and help her out in other areas of her life.

I guarantee she will love you more and it will bring you closer togetaher.

>as for anal
Dont pressure her into it and don't make her feel like she has to because she can have sex vaginally. It will only make your relationship worse.
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I suggest you find a gay friend and ask him to get you some "Poppers" and then get her to do some. It will relax the muscles, and then stick it in her ass.
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>>742914849

how about
>travel to austria
>go hiking for the whole day
>later go tripping on LSD or shrooms in your beautiful little shack with fireplace
>just have fun

maybe shell forget to cramp her pussy everytime something enters when she forgets everything and stops being an asshole
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Hey, OP, I'm in a similar position to you. Wife has low libido and Vaginismus. Has had it since we first met. I love her and wish we could have sex, but facts are facts and the medical condition is difficult. We've been together for 6 years now and I've only had sex with a mistress once two years ago. How do you even find other women? I've pretty much given up on it because the time, effort, and money isn't worth it to me. I don't even remember the last time I touched my wife sexually or even had desire to. She's become more like a sister/daughter to me now.
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>>742919371
Not OP, but 'nice and clean' is all you ever need. Nice enough that you're fun to spend time with, clean enough that she isn't repulsed. Looks obviously help but this is honestly all you need, a decent personality and the ability to look after yourself.
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>>742914849
>vaginismus

>Psychological

>According to Ward and Ogden's qualitative study on the experience of vaginismus (1994), the three most common contributing factors to vaginismus are fear of painful sex; the belief that sex is wrong or shameful (often the case with patients who had a strict religious upbringing); and traumatic early childhood experiences (not necessarily sexual in nature).

People with vaginismus are twice as likely to have a history of childhood sexual interference and held less positive attitudes about their sexuality, whereas no correlation was noted for lack of sexual knowledge or (non-sexual) physical abuse

well there u go, fix that fucking brain of hers. find a way.
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>>742914849
can you reasonably put a fleshlight(just the sleeve) in her vagina? That might act as a dampener so you could fuck, she wouldn't feel the penetration probably, but if she gets off mostly through clitoral stimulation you could find something else to address that.

attached file for example
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>>742914849
> married to a 25 year old for the 6 last years
Stays 25 for 6 years.
Really makes you think.
No sex else get frostbite on cock.
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Her sister can still take the spot
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>>742916424
>This
Find a chick who would be both of your g/fs
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>>742920097

OP here. Still reading and considering all posts.
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>>742920317
is her problem friction or pressure?
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>>742914849
anal?
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>>742920317
Consider this you faggot.
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>>742914849

>letting a psychological problem ruin ur sex life

tell ur whore gf to stop being a rape victim
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>>742920317
Have there been problems outside of the bedroom?
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ANAL

ECSTASY

A PARADE OF VIBRATING SEXTOYS

69

GRADUAL INSERTION TRAINERS
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>>742920646
>>742919684
>I can't read
He said hers is caused by thinning of the walls due to the drug, which causes pain.
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>>742920317

let me ask u something op. how much has she tried fixing this problem
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>>742914849
Let her pick a chick and watch
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/b/ is turning into one of the biggest phylosophical debate of all time:
>Does she have vaginismus because of the drug?
>Or because she has a vagina?
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>>742921321
You trying to say that trainees could have Vaginismus despite not having a vagina?
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>>742914849
Teh butt
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>>742915076
>anal
I like anal better than pussy because it's tighter.
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>>742921541
Fuck phoneposting. Trannies
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>>742920317
Why don't you respond to some posts before your topic ends up getting purged, OP?
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>>742914849
Fuck bro, that sucks. It'd be one thing if it was just vaginismus but she still had her libido; then the two of you could tag team some coed or she could watch you bang teenyboppers.

I'd recommend getting a girlfriend, but even if wifey approves it and girlfriend is a literal saint, the 3rd wheel dynamic will be inherently dramatic and drive you apart.

I wish I could think of some way to help.

Nice wife, btw. Tits?
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>condoms

mfw only dumb kids use them

Ovulation testing is the only way to go. My fiance and I use NFP and before, I kept bitches around until they passed STD and then did it raw and like a man.

Plastic baggies around my 7 inch mixed cock of Christ? Nah, son.
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>>742921623
How do you know he's phone posting you fucking sperg?
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>>742922312
Because that was me posting. I hate my autocorrect.
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>>742914849
Do you want kids?? This sounds more serious than just fuckyfucktimes
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>>742922195
You sir are a faggot, and very uneducated
>nah, son
So when's your 14th birthday anon?
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>>742922416
You should get an iPhone bro
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>>742921600
what the fuck no its not you virgin
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>>742922195
>mixed
So are you a sandnigger, half spic or a mulatto? Either way you are subhuman scum, should be wiped from the face of this planet
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>>742914849
>So, this situation sucks. What would you do?

I beat off in the shower like every married man. Ive been married a little over 22 years and pretty much only get my dick touched on my birthday. Love and sex have nothing to do with each other. You dont "need a physical connection" with someone. Sex isnt needed to live
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>>742922687
The only face you should wipe me from is yo mama's!
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>>742915608
>cocksmiths
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OP try to get one of her friends so it feels "safe".
You: hey, i can't get a trustworthy someone to have sex with me on a regular base, maybe you know someone?
Her: no idk any1 lol xD (leave me alone, this is how i imagine her talking)
You: maybe one of your friends? I still wish i could have sexual intercourse with you though
Her: i dont think someone wants to (something down this road but probably not as straight forward)
You: could you at least try?
Her: how can i ask something like this
You: just say "hey annonese, anon is having a hard time finding a fuck-buddy due to blablabla i was wondering if you could help me out, i don't want to ruin his sex life. Do it for me"

Now you have a wife AND her friend
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>>742914849
Just be more selective in who you sleep with. Keep getting out there and look EVERYWHERE...you'll find someone you're compatible with that's fine with the setup and that will give you awesome sex.

Plus give it to your wife in the butt.
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>>742920317
>>742917081
>>742914849
Hi.
Are you decent looking? Are you rich? A lot of this has to do with the answers to those questions. If you are either one of those things this shouldn't be too hard for you. I do suggest MDMA as a method to potentially become closer to your wife and possibly increase her interest in physical contact.

Yes, condoms suck. However, if your concern is pregnancy, get snipped. If it's VD, well, fair point but if you're barely fucking your wife you only have your own dick to ruin. If you're not shagging absolute gutter trash you'll probably not catch anything that can't be solved by a penicillin shot. Apart from that fairly loose advice, why not try and find a regular hookup partner who you can get tested with? If you're not into the BDSM scene, that's fine, but there are still plenty of women in the reverse of your situation with limp-dicked husbands, or women who married for money. Mind you, they're not likely to be the most stimulating conservationists if that's their motivation, but that's not what you're here for, is it? Your situation is especially conducive to having a younger sub serve you when you choose, if that's palatable. Generally girls into that scene are a bit more tolerable than straight gold diggers or bored wives.

My wife is no slouch but I'm a freak of nature and if I don't get it at least once a day I have physical difficulty containing my erections in business attire (which is really bad when you wear well fitted suits. If I'm away on business for an extended time I'll generally ask if it's okay that I establish a temporary beachhead in some reputable vag somewhere. There are myriad ways to do this but that's another thread.

Your wife is gorgeous from behind at least, sucks about the health issues.
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>>742914849
Honestly I would just put up with blowjobs and anal. Too bad but trying to find random sluts every time.... fuck that. Also if you guys really love each other like that, I would be very hesitant to have a regular fuckbuddy.
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But seriously get your wife to pose full-frontal for us and write something humiliating on her, like "I can't provide for my man" or "Cuckqueen Failure". Maybe it'll turn her on or goad her into proving herself.
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>>742923202
You must be a blast at parties.
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>>742923202
kek
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>>742923332
so close
and yet you failed
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>>742923556
and so did you
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>>742922863
What is this, 1997? Yo mama jokes, kek. Funniest part about all that is you weren't even alive in 1997
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>>742914849
I didn't read the whole thread, but does she still enjoy oral at least?
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Yo OP,
If you cant get off with a mistress or a fuck buddy because you love her so much, how do you figure divorce and losing her permanently is going to help?

Since you obviously still love her more than the effort required for sustainable side pussy, you have 2 practical options:

1: Psychologist/sex therapist (either for just her or both of you)

2: Get her off that drug, and get a new drug/doctor
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>>742923306
Thanks friend!
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Go to the estrogenic herbs. You have little to lose, and I've seen dong quai, chastetree berry, and black or blue cohosh root have useful recovery effects with vaginal wall thickness, libido, etc. Go see a decent N.D. and give it a try.
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>>742914849
Why don't you do the same to yourself so neither of you are interested in having sex
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>>742924867
2 years later, she recovers but he doesn't, now he's a limpdick about to be cucked, great idea mate
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>>742914849
>vaginismus

sounds fake.
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well she has no ass so divorce her if she cant provide with sex you faggot, you will fall in love in within a month you are a man for fucks sake
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>>742922788

u must be happy
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>>742914849
If you loved her, you would give up sex without a second thought.
You don't love her, so divorce her.
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>>742925137
Nah, it's real and it sucks. Talk to an OB/GYN to learn more.
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>>742925137
idiot
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>>742914849
Listen up fucktard, the symptoms your wife is experiencing are not permanent if she gets appropriate treatment. First off, if she was truly diagnosed with vaginismus, I SERIOUSLY doubt it was the result of a medication she was taking. Vaginismus has two components: the pain and the psych (libido) components. Pain can be addressed through pelvic floor physical therapy, dialators, and analgesic creams for use during penetration. The psych component will need to be addressed in order for her libido to return. Your wife needs therapy. Maybe from a specialist in sex therapy. Maybe she's depressed, maybe she was traumatized as a child, maybe she's bipolar, who the fuck knows, but all of those things can be treated so get her fucking seen you twat. I just hope for your sake that whenever her symptoms resolve she doesn't leave your ass for not trying harder to get her treatment and just worrying about where you're gonna be putting your widdle diddle at night.
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>>742925362
>>742925365

you're too easy, /b/
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>>742925488
Dubs of truth nignogs
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>>742925507
>haha I was just pretending to be a retard!
good one lad
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>>742914849
Do you have kids? If not I would just get divorced. Part of the reason you got married (I assume) is so you wouldn't have to dick around with dating sites and condoms anymore.
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>>742925611

but seriously, it's a fake condition
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>>742925731
How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?
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