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Drug thread? Pic related is whats left of my hard for the night,

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Drug thread?

Pic related is whats left of my hard for the night, started with 2 g's. What is everyone else smoking/doin tonight?

And before moralfags jump in and talk shit. Im 28, an electrical engineer for G.E in cincy, and only smoke this shit because i moved here from detroit and dont anyone. It was some good shit for $50 a g for those who are wondering

Someone please talk to me
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>>742640671
>Someone please talk to me
Shit dude just kill yourself already damn. Meth and Molly are terrible drugs man.
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Bump

Just pic related
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>>742640671
No one wants to speak to a dopeheaded loser that writes like an illiterate retard. Neck yourself burnout.
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>>742640671
Heres what im smoking now. I just cant freaking stop talking (through texts obviously). But feeling pretty good though. Any other succesful drugies here?
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>>742640671

If it's a white powder, stay the fuck away from it.
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>>742640671
Is this crack? Wtf dude. I don't care how successful you are, you are trash. Reparations after me you are trash.
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>>742640980
>>742640826

I have a bachelors (>not masters or p.h.d)
In electrical engineering, and mechanical design. Yes im high and using drugs, but thats because im lonely with no friends. Im not stupid (at least a little bit since im smoking hard), and im fine. Dont talk shit to adults that you dont know.
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buying some purple kush off a friend at some point.
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>>742641260
Don't have to know you to understand that smoking crack is for trash. You are trash for smoking crack period. Quit. If you can't handle being sober for 28 days you are an addict.
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>>742641127
Yeah its hard. Theres a stigma about it like dope and meth thanks to niggers. Truth be told, it is am incredible escape that is cheap, effective, and unless you are a hibitual user, has no negative effects like meth and dope, or even coke. I only smoke this shit at most twice a month, and thats only when im drunk and feeling deppressed
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>>742641458
See>>742641521

I dont blame you for feeling that way. If i didnt grow up in detroit i would probably say the same. But its not nearly as bad as people think, and i am by no means an addict, junkie, or thief. I only do the shit when im drunk. And i only drink ecause i am a workaholic (i work 72 hours a week) , and im alone out of state. Things could be much worse for me
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iv had crack, i liked it, iv seen dudes sell smack until they had £1000 then they bought coke with the £1000, then used ammonia and made crack and smoke the lot..waste of money
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>>742640978
Yo if you like the doors, check out morrisons poetry and his screenplay. His writing is.out there for being so young at the time. But some of his.writing really.impressed me.

Heres another pic btw. I cant be the.only one here smoking tonight. Or maybe im just not paranoid
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>>742642033
Ammonia and coke? Just what the fuck are you camel jockies doing over there? You must be fucked up, and made a mistake, thatll kill you just from boiling it. And even in detroit $1000/$2000 (dont know shit about euros) thats not enough coke to cook hard
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>>742642566
listen shitsmear, i dont care man, i was there , u can make crack like that, and believe me £1000 is enough
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Heres my pusher and an update.
I get you will all think im a loser, and i dont blame you. I just want to talk to anyone really. Im interested in a little bit of everything. Mostly robotics, mecha, botany, cars (strictly american), scotch, and obviously hard.
It seems like it i know, but im not a bad guy. Talk with me please?
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Im not on anything rn but ive been looking for hydros for the longest time now. Its def my drug of choice
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>>742643261
Bullshit. Detroit is one of the cheapest cities, if not the cheepest in the u.s. no way euros get more, and better, and less additives than we do. Especially trying to cook it with something that makes a lethal gas when boiled. Youre underage, drunk, or stupid.
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>>742643599
just google ammonia crack and get schooled
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>>742643463
If you can find them, try roxies dude. Much better. Obviously straight up dope is your best and cheapest bet. But obviously thats not the best thing to do. Still better than pills though, atleast in the d
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>>742640671
>$50 a g for those who are wondering

yo shits like 30/g in the midwest fam
25/g in cali

all fire

fucking mexicans
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>>742643773
aint roxies gone from the market now?
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>>742643734
Oh shit youre right, im sorry euro friend. I guess the nigs in detroit arent smart enough.to mess with that.>>742643950
I refuse to.believe this. I went to san diego last summer, couldnt find hard for less than $80 a g, or soft for less than $200 a ball. In detroit or pontiac i can get a ball of soft for $150 or a ball of hard for $120. No way you get better shit than us for cheaper. All drugs run through detroit thanks to i-75 and.crooked cops
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>>742644525
>refuse to.believe this. I went to san diego last summer, couldnt find hard for less than $80 a g, or soft for less than $200 a ball.

dude i swear

if you have the hook in cali you can cop a zip for 800 ez
shard, glass, w/e, its clean and fire
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>>742640671
Bump for you dude, i feel you. No drugs, but i do have this, a cropped pic of your op
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>>742644525
Knowledge is power, crack in seconds with ammonia, not sure if its the 'best' way but it did the trick- its 7am im gettin up gonna have a bong for breakfast
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>>742644762
I mean i can believe it, being commiefornia and bordering mexico. I will again, admit, i was wrong. But i will stick by saying you wont find any better, or more pure drugs than you will in detroit. Excluding meth because you cant get it/nobody does it in detroit. That also includes pot, and E (im too old for molly, i really have never even seen it
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>>742641260
Bro, enjoy yourself. I'm about to get baked myself.
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>>742644959
Oh shit you smokin bro? Ive gone through.about 2 g's now. Thankfully im not tweaking, carpet surfing, or paranoid. Just want to talk to.anyone about anything lol. And yeah, no clue.about the ammonia, never heard of that. Ive heard of narcan, fentynal (spelling?), lactose, and soda, but never that. The guy in detroit i used to get stuff from cooked it 10 to 1 on a gas stove, 400°f. Best shit ive ever done, and cheap to. God bless detroit for deppressed losers like us
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>>742640671

It'll kill you one day. If not today, someday.
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>>742645608
>>742645490
>>742645608
No need, i pay cash, taxes, insurance for everything, medicap, dental, and even h.o.a. i know im a retard for smoking hard. Im just lonely, and when i drink i want to smoke, sue me. Other than smokimg, or soft, ive never commited a crime, stole, never pay someone back, owr anyone money, or backstab friends/family. I guess im just not strong willed.
>>742645490
Oh im feeling fine man. Gotta do a few.blasts to finish whats left, have a glass of scotch to relax, and go to bed.
What are you smoking tonight?
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Update, feeling damn good. Mouth and lips completely numb. Fried my chore though (my stem is a lot thinner than it looks, it was machined by my buddy in his shop).
Wheres my bros at?
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>>742640671
I dropped on LSD for the 4th time the day before yesterday. I had not been expecting to drop, and I was already pretty stoned and a four loko down.

I didn't go to sleep, and even as I was coming down, I had buckets of energy, so I cleaned my house and jogged to some heavy metal, then once I was almost completely sober I went to a family foot ball party and downed another four loko and got really sick.

This was one of my most intense trips bar the time I took two tabs.
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>>742640671
Yeah but dude that's crack. If you're an engineer for G.E. then you need a cocaine connection. I do drugs, I'm not moral fag, but seriously man, crack is something poor black people do because they can't afford cocaine.
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Poppy pod tea + oxies, would like some stims to go along with this
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>>742647025
Dude i completely agree. And believe it or not, im not lying. Its just in cincinnati everything here.comes fro. Detroit, and is stepped on 10 different time along the way. And the nigs still try to charge. $100 or more a gram. It just isnt worth it to spemd. $250 for a ball, and it be complete garbage. The hard i get is fucking bomb, and i get it cheap. Its the same high, just better, more intense, and cheaper.
I definitely feel where youre coming from though. But again, im not a total retard, never been arrested, and not an addict. I just get bored and lonely sometimes
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/b/ should I take a tab of acid tonight? 12:43 AM for me
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>>742647576
Do you gotta work tomorrow? If yes, then no, you should not. Also if not, then take two tabs.
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>>742644032
My bad for late reply. Depending if you are u.s or not, you can still get roxies. At least in detroit you can. If you cant tell, thats where my experience comes from. You could also probably find it online somewhere.
I dont really like pills/opiates though. They make me sick and too slow.
Honestly its a miracle im not a fiend or addict. I guess ill thank work, and an underpaying salary for that
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>>742647502
Enjoy your teeth while you can then. I lost 15 teeth because of that shit. Nothing says being tempted to commit suicide like having an abscessed tooth.
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>>742647714
Only have 2 and wanted to have 2 good night's:( also I did just get my tongue pierced today, I'm slightly worried that acid trippin me will fuck something up
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>>742647576
Not worth it man, especially if you are alone/have stuff to do tomorrow. Then again those kind of drugs really fuck with me, and ive never touched them after eating only a.gram of mushrooms. Seriously the worst night of life, off of a meazly gram too. I just stick to hard.once or twice.a month, and beer the rest of the time. Seems to be doing me well the past 3 years ive lived here alone
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>>742641458
>sober less than 28 days
>addict. Dafuqoutta here, dumb shit.
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>>742647974
Well two things to remember. You focus on the negative things a lot when you trip, and I'm not talking about having a bad trip, but rather you would probably pick at your piercing constantly or worry about it constantly, which would ruin your overall high. But also LSD taxes the immune system hard, like colds can turn to pneumonia kind of taxing. And they always say there is a risk of infection with new piercings, so you run that risk even more.

Also what the hell is with this bullshit?
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>>742647941
Ive never had a cavity, and get a cleaning every 90 days. I know ita hard to believe, but i really dont have a problem. Like i said, i smoke once or twice a month, and never more than a ball. I usually smoke with a buddy from work too. Im alone tonight, which probably explains my need to talk to people lol
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Looks like it's just poppy tea tonight, as usual. I was hoping maybe I could find a cartridge or two of nitrous that hadn't been cracked, but that venture was unsuccessful.
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>>742648494
Have you simply considered LSD?
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>>742648394
10/10 Captcha. You make some good points there. Does Lsd expire?
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>>742648531
I hope you're joking. Inhalants are cringy teenage shit, and I wouldn't even consider it a real drug.
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>>742648531
Uk friend? Or just not into harder stuff?
Ive.never understood the appeal of nitrous. But then again, im smoking hard alone at 3 am so what do i know?

And my bad for the awful spelling, puncuation, and grammar. My hands are shaking like crazy, and im almost a 5th and a pint of johnny walker black deep
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>>742648578
It's very unstable. Heat and sunlight will kill it, so you need a cool space to store it, that is away from light and heavy moisture. Easiest is to put it in the freezer, but a basement works too. You wanna keep it wrapped in tinfoil unless you plan to use it. Some people have reported keeping it stable and usable for up to like 2 years, and I took some synthetic stuff once that was in a storage unit for over a year.
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>>742640671
Got 2grams of H lined up for pickup on Tuesday. I can't fucking wait. Been over a year since I did any. Got me a fresh rig too. Right now tho some hard would be pretty good. 50$ pretty good. I'm paying 60 in VA when I get it.
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>>742648963
So if I have a small solid sealing rubber container and I put it in the freezer that'd be pretty good storage?
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just waiting for my roommate to nod out like usual so I can 'borrow' a couple roxi's to ride the blue dragon.
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>>742648559
Never. I did shrooms when i was 19 and in college. One gram, worst night of my life. Ive never touched any hallucination type drugs before or after that. I dont even smoke pot. Ironically enough it makes me really anxious and paranoid, but hard doesnt. Go figure lol
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20 mg hydrocodone .25 xanax just listening to music laying with my pup
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>>742649062

you getting paid on Tuesday or something?
Seems strange for it to be "set up" for only 2 grams.
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>>742649358
Yeah that's pay day buddy. Monday nght technically.
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>>742649137
Yeah I imagine so. Wrap it in tinfoil, contain it, and huck it in the freezer, and it shouldn't go bad on you at all.

I know I dropped with a buddy, I took two, but bought 4, so I had two in my backpack, and was tripping so hard that I forgot I even had them. They had an ice pack with them, but that was long thawed by the time I realized it, and when I got around to taking those two tabs I was unimpressed.
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>>742649062
Heres a bro who knows how im feeling. Ive never been into dope, only tried it once in high school. But the hard is definitely good. How much are you paying for a g of.dope out there? In detroit its about $200
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>>742648855

US m8. I only did nitrous a couple of times because I was really bored, it was cheap, and my friend had one of those dispensers. The dissociation sort of stacks if you keep doing them in a row, so like a box of 24 in 30 minutes will get you extremely high. Some people, especially in combination with psychedelics, report experiencing ego death on nitrous, sometimes just nitrous alone. People really underestimate how potent a dissociative it is, though the high is extremely short lived and I really don't have much desire in doing it again. I wouldn't lump it together with other inhalants, since it's a legitimate anesthetic agent used in medicine.

My drug of choice is opiates, namely oxymorphone but that hardly ever comes around here. I'm currently dependent on morphine, so in order for me to get high on opiates I'd have to inject them. Never been much of a stimulant guy, but if I'm in a situation where it sort of comes to me and I'm not doing anything the whole day, I might pick up some. Sort of like the nitrous.
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>>742649236
It's terrible to do those kinds of drugs when your young and your brain hasn't fully developed. Did you have a lot on your mind at the time? Because college can make a trip worse, what with worrying about classes and grades n' all.

I wouldn't knock it just because your first trip as a teenager didn't go how you planned.
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>>742649503
Paying 100$ a G. Which is irritating in its own. I miss being I Delaware getting stamped bags by the bundle. Got so connected cousin and I were paying 40$ a G.

Dope is good when sniffed too. Should try it sometime. I'm just all about the rush.
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Here's a some ecstasy the Pac-man , with hydrocodone

First time I tried x and it was pretty euphoric, pretty sure it was just some rc and not the real deal though
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>>742647941
pic?
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Anybody here that lives close to union city nj can hook me up with some weed or xans
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>>742650091
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REPORTED TO DEA, NYPD, RCMP.
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>>742649656
I wouldn't call it terrible. It's probably not a good idea doing psychedelics when you're under a lot of stress, or young, but people don't seem to understand just how incredible the brain is at adapting. Conversely, most people also don't understand how life altering a bad trip can be though.
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>>742640671
sometimes I smoke weed at night, it's cool to chill while using the computer and stuff
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>>742640671
>>742640991
>>742642124
>>742643298
>tweakers and pill fags

fucking kill yourselves
or go to rehab, whichever one
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>>742649686
$100 a g for h? I call bullshit on that in a heartbeat. Let alone $40 a g? When i was younger and got my shit from the dude who.cooked in the crack house, the lowest he would go is $175 a g, with everyone else charging $250 or more. No fucking way $100 or less a g, and its good
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>>742650428

$100 a g is pretty standard m8. Especially if you live near the Mexico border, but then all you're getting is tar. Might as well be injecting rat poison at that point, probably better for your veins.
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>>742640671
why the emojis ew
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>>742650100
1/3
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>>742650185
This was my attempt at a taper long time ago, I ate em all in like a week, then suffered the worst withdrawals

I was bad off on the pills but I took a long break, now I just get high on 30mg like once a month
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>>742650664
2/3
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>>742643298
you still up, bud? i'll chat
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>>742650707
3/3
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>>742650428
Having connects like 2ls for under 2k

Not you
I fully understand
Its normal
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I want to use the dark net markets to get my shit but every day a new one gets shut down or hacked. feelsbad
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>>742650269
young fag here, have done acid probably 10 times and the only real down side has been slightly worse memory and a slight stutter from not being able to say what I'm thinking.
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>>742650428
It's true man. 100$. No reason to lie.

I still think that's high. And yes we got to the point where we were paying 40$. When I first started on it he was getting it for 70$ so bundle. Point 1, per bag, 10 bags to a bundle. Stamped with
>red devil
>Mike Tyson
>blue devil
Etc. On the wax bags. That shit was coming out of Philly. Now on the east coast in Richmond, VA. I'm getting grams folded into mega millions lottery tickets.

Idk where you are, even crack was 10$ a Pont here until I became a regular buyer.

You're the one who got fucked over bud.
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>>742648531
Hey, got poppy seed tea here as well (also oxy). What brand you have? SN, FTL, WGN?
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>>742640671
You play any video games OP?
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I remember in 2010 I could get 10mg oxy for like $5 a piece, now that doctors are cracking down and the "opiate epidemic" they would go for up to $12 a pop, I know I paid that a few times just because it was all I could find
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>>742650742
dam how do you eat?
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>>742651074

TNT. It's more expensive than the other brands but it's quite a bit more potent, and to me they feel better in terms of subjective effects. Before that it was always SN and sometimes WGN though. Is SN any stronger now? I stopped ordering around June I believe.
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>>742651234
Not easy. I can only eat on left side of my mouth because my bottom right teeth end right where the top teeth start on that side. The tooth closest to the back of my mouth became my molar, and because I have no top front teeth, eating things like chicken is near impossible.
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>>742640826
Molly is great. People just do too much and don't test it. Learn how to fucking dose and make sure you have pure mdma crystals. Not fucking hard
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>>742651074
Do you really want to contribute to the opioid crisis man?
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>>742651334
Haven't heard of TNT, i'll check it out. Just recently got back into seeds, although in the past month I've tried SN, FTL, and just now trying WGN. I used to just straight up order pods, but that was 4-5 years ago by this point. SN seemed stronger than FTL, and so far this WGN batch is pretty decent.

>>742651643
In what sense?
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>>742650943
I feel like that's a lot dude. I only trip once or twice a year and am completely normal.
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>>742651580
holy shit sorry to her well thanks for forever reminding me to brush my teeth.
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>>742651781
TNT's got the most consistent quality, but when SN is good it's better than anything else.

>>742651643
If anything doing poppy seed tea is helping the opioid crisis. For most people that do poppy seed tea, it's either their drug of choice or they use it as sort of a maintenance thing like suboxone or methadone to keep off of harder drugs like heroin or fentanyl. If we're using poppy seeds, there's less demand for heroin and fentanyl, which means less of it on the street.
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>>742650091
Don't do MDMA if you haven't tested it bro! RCs can be dangerous, and a lot of x is cut with meth. Just test your substance. There are cheap kits online
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>>742651902
well here we have some of the nicest drugs and I know all the plugs so deals are nice also helped me with meh crippling depression so id personally say the trade off is worth it, but your probably right
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>>742650943
Yeah well that's what you get for being a young idiot who takes acid too much. You are reckless, and who ever says "well hey man, it's not that bad, the only kinda sucky thing is the stutter and memory loss, but it's like not that bad."
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Anyone got pics of H, I don't know what it looks like always been curious.
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>>742652161
Hey. LSD helped me too. Just want people to be as safe and healthy as possible when taking psychs.
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>>742652077
If you are having to do any kind of drug as an excuse to stay away from harder drugs, then you have a problem in your life that you need to fix, so you don't have to feel like you need to turn to drugs in the first place.
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dropped a tab, drinking on a couple ciders, got 100mg ket in a draw for later.should be a fun night :D

>>742642566
i agree with you that that's unhealthy, but just because there's ammonia in the reaction doesn't mean there is ammonia in the final product.

>>742650902
ikr, i've decided craigslist is less hassle for now.

>>742641803
fine, it's your journey, but you are talking like an addict.
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>>742652294
This. And it isn't to say don't do drugs. Just do drugs when you have a good mental health.
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>>742649062
VA here too. I get some fire h for 100/g but the dude always takes forever or gets too high to do anything. Such a waste cuz its really good shit. I need a more reliable guy with fire as well
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>>742652395
You buy shit off Craigslist???
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>>742652395
Vanilla extract tastes like bitter ass on it's own, and it's used as an ingredient in many sweets. But I don't taste it so it must no longer be in the cake right?
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>>742646819
Don't fucking lie, that's a collapsible radio antenna. There are people over twelve on this board that remember what those look like, y'know.
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>>742652292
trust me man I try, only trip on hikes now just because it feels like an enhanced sober hike not like a trip and I'm probably done taking anything over 2 tabs. Iv accomplished what iv set out to do.
as for >>742652170 The way I see it is I could have been a anti social loser with crippling anxiety and depression with normal memory and speech, which wouldn't even matter cuz I wouldn't have friends... but I'm now a relatively normal person with social skills, friends and a stutter no one but me even notices.
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>>742652077
TY for the recommendation/info, much appreciated.

Also agreed in terms of poppy seeds in terms of maintainence. In my case I have a really messed up back (classified level 3), so it definetly helps with the pain.

In my opinion, the crisis is fueled by misuse from misinformation/ignorance/lack of info, incombination with bad/cuts (fentalogs being cut with/passed off as h), and inadequate treatment/recovery facilities (including needle exchanges).
Not to mention the legalization of weed directly affects cartels/etc, alongside the market influence of middle eastern poppy supply being hit, can lead cartels to focus on poppy production (assuming desert conditions provide similar growing requirements). Idk tho, I'm just rambling.
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looking at buying some RCs
anyone have success with it?
got a good idea of what I want, just not sure if I should order from Canada
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>>742640671
I love how OP is trying so hard to not call it Crack. He even answered a question with the slang.
>Is that Crack?
>Yea, it's hard

You're a fucking crackhead anon
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>>742643298
What division are you in?
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>>742640671

>before any moral fags
>I'm 28 electrical engineer
>I smoke crack but only because I don't know anyone

whatever OP, I don't give a shit about you, nobody here does, the only reason people like to tell you how much of a scum bag you are for doing shit like this is because we get a buzz from twisting the knife

Doesn't matter who you are or what you do for a living, smoking that shit is going to ruin your life.

You probably hold a ton of other snowflake opinions besides your view on drugs. Think about the lives that are destroyed to deliver that substance to you, all the people forced into a life of crime and killed over supplying spoiled retards like you with a way to fuck up the one of the few lives on the planet not in total shit by war, famine etc

You are scum OP, just admit it.
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>>742652294

It's not really an excuse. If you're dependent on opiates, you're not taking them to get high anymore; you're taking them so you can get well. For most opiate addicts, it isn't as simple as just fixing what's wrong in your life and then you're just magically not going to want to use anymore.

We're not idiots man. We know what we're doing is wrong and unhealthy. When you build a physical dependence on a substance, the addiction is on an entirely different level. To say that using poppy seed tea in place of say heroin or fentanyl is just an excuse to use other drugs is pretty inaccurate, and honestly that sort of misinformation is part of what is fueling this opioid epidemic.
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>>742640978
>Killers

ma nigga
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>>742646819
Why would you say that about what is cleary an antenna.
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>>742652838
I bought 1p-lsd through lysergi. It was alright. Easier just to get lsd.
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>>742652970
moralfag
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do electrical work and painting/drywall mostly painting and drywall but i know how to hook shit up run conduit and what not, not fuckin w/ fuse boxes though. been on multiple job sites, can confirm that when you go out on a "saftey meeting" you're either doin blow or moke or slamming some drinks
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>>742653212
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>>742653204
thinking about going out for 4-AcO-DMT
honestly just really hate looking for a plug
would rather buy my shit myself on gray market
was the process pretty smooth?
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>>742645597
Lmao pleaseexplain what carpet surfing is
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>>742652537
i was pretty scared at first but for the most part i've had nothing but great customer service and quality product. it's less anonymous than the darknet, but cheaper (since you don't pay for postage), a lot less effort, and more reliable (no exit scams, late deliveries, in my case lost passowrds..). so far i haven't been scammed or heard breath of a cop.

>>742652654
i looked up the tek. the freebase cocaine precipitates into hard rocks as it forms - rocks that can then be washed several times to make sure there almost no ammonia left on the final product. nice analogy though, and there is probably still a little ammonia left.
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>>742652838
what do you want?
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Ayahuasca is nice. It'll last longer than 4-AcO-DMT, and it's easier to process the trip session.
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>>742653626
4-AcO-DMT
might branch out if it goes over well
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>>742653023
If you are dependant on a drug, then you aren't doing it to get better, you're doing it because your body feels like it couldn't live without it, hence the massive withdrawal symptoms you'd get if you tried to quit.

And no, but people only start taking hard drugs to escape the reality of their shitty life, it's why drugs sell so well in poor, shitty neighborhoods. If you got rid of the negativity in your life or changed your situation for the better, then quitting would be a lot easier, and your chances of a relapse after sobriety would be smaller.
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>>742653424
I've done real DMT by synthesizing the crystals with a chemist friend of mine. The process is pretty simple and you can find guides easily. I would try that, or find a plug.

But the process was extremely simple. Buy like you do from the darknet, so your vpn and shit up. I likes lysergi cause i was able to use bitcoin. It came straight to my house. No trouble at all.
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>>742653789
K2, or some other synthetic cannabinoid
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>>742653967
And I'm not surprised. Those kids look no older than 16.
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>>742654044
Like how the fuck can kids not find normal weed? It was so easy for me in hs, and I am from Utah.
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>>742653902
stuff I'm talking about is a prodrug of psylocin, so shroomy. DMT was terrible and I didn't enjoy it.

I'll have to give it a shot, sounds convenient.
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smoking mid tier weed to numb the depression of being a fat lazy crippled fucking loser with no friends and no gf feels bad
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>>742654044
You must be retarded to guess people's ages on their choice of clothes.
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>>742654196
https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4_acetoxy_dmt/4_acetoxy_dmt_effects.shtml

Seems interesting. Does it really last for hours?
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>>742654147
What makes you so sure it's what you think it is? Do you know every strain there is? Damn you're stupid
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Almost done my blow for the evening. 1:15am here. Anyone got some sick comedown tunes/activities? (I refuse to assault my wiener for I know it will be sore tomorrow.).
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>>742654248
And they must be retarded for smoking synthetic weed
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>>742654147
In this day and age? Fuck man, there are dealers all over the god damn place, and more states keep legalizing it, so if you live in one of those, it's no harder to pay a guy to buy you weed than it would be to buy you cigs. If you can't get weed, then synthetics should never be a second option. They're not safe and unregulated, and have all sorts of dangerous shit in them. But teens should not be smoking marijuana in the first place. You're brain doesn't begin to finish developing until around 21-25, so your chances for dependency are MASSIVE at that age. Everyone I know who smokes started at around 15-18, and can't live without it. I didn't start smoking until I was 22, and even though I smoke a ton, if I don't have it, I don't fret, and I've gone weeks without smoking and it never bothered me.
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>>742654326
from everything I can gather it's just like a shroom trip, maybe a little less earthy.
if it's good I'd be stoked to have a compact/potent little supply for hiking trips and outdoor music festivals
really kinda burnt out on mdma
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>>742654443
Forgot to add picture of said blow. Instead here's a tight unit
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>>742654388
You must be retarded if you think people can tell a strain from a picture in the first place.
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>>742654443
I enjoy N.E.R.D.s Fly or Die Album. on a come down.
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>>742653757
aww yeah, 4-AcO-DMT is aight. it's basically a slightly less muddy, more green coloured mushrooms though, which grow on the ground. here's a few I enjoyed more :D

2C-E/2C-T-7 - i definitely prefer the 2C's to 4-AcO-DMT, much more open, positive and clear headed.
5-MeO-MiPT - sexy. a very different tryptamine to mushrooms
3-MeO-PCP - the strangest i've ever felt. a wonderful antidepressant and really unique and subtle experience.
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>>742654545
Yeah. I feel. I started way to young. I had to learn how to live without weed. Took a year hiatus and got my mental health in order before starting again.
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>>742654248
Thanks for implying, but no, my assumption was based on their smooth ass, hairless skin. The kind of skin you have when you're a teenager who hasn't worked a day in their life and is still in puberty,
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>>742654443
do it anyway.
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>>742654388
Implying K2 is cannabis.... And youre calling him stupid?
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>>742654767
Let teens smoke the shit. If they die, natural selection is doing its thing
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Why's everything gotta come down to a pissing match in these threads?
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$40 in British Columbia. Heavy kush helped me get off 3 prescriptions and haven't had a panic attack in nearly 5 weeks.
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>>742654767
Implying you can tell its k2 from a picture... And you're hinting that I'm stupid?
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>>742653827

Getting out of withdrawal is literally getting better m8. I know I won't die without it, but you've clearly never been in this state. Just how much do you know about addiction? Because honestly, not trying to sound rude or anything, but it sounds like all you know about it is what you learned from shitty youtube documentaries and Intervention episodes. If you are dependent on a drug, you're taking it to stay out of withdrawal, hence the term getting well.

Take the worst cold or flu you've ever had and add a stomach flu on top of that. Then imagine you're having the worst day of your life, your dad just died, your girlfriend left you, you just lost your job and got kicked out of your place, your car got stolen etc. Multiply all that by a thousand, and that's opiate withdrawal. And with poppy seed tea it could last for a month. And then take the shittiest day of your life, no energy and feeling like there's no reason to go on living, and try living that way every single day for 6 months - 5 years. That's post acute withdrawal syndrome. You couldn't possibly understand how difficult it is going through all that.

Sorry man, I appreciate you telling me stuff like this, but I doubt anything you say could ever help me. There isn't anything you could tell me that I don't already know. I know it's totally within reach for me to get sober, but I've been so depressed for so long that even if I do manage to absolutely suffer for 2 years and get past post acute withdrawal, I'm still the same husk of a person I was before I started all of this. I mean I was in therapy for 3 years for depression and anxiety before all of this. Maybe my future isn't as bleak as it seems to me, but I really just want to kill myself and be done with it all.
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>>742655001
Your picture makes whatever your smoking look like k2 or whatever, or nasty dry bud. I wouldn't smoke it

Props on the cigs though.
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>>742654681


So, they synthesize 4-AcO-DMT from mushrooms?
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>>742654681
you can't buy 2C family stuff on gray market, though?
that's my main motivator, otherwise I'd be looking for 2C-B and the like

I'll keep your recommendations in mind, I'm really starting to enjoy psychedelics over amphetamines.
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>>742655090
Have you never used a grinder?
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>>742655123
Get 2 cb bro. It is worth the darkweb
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I've done 2-CI. That was about 7-8 years ago. It was like a party mescaline type drug.
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>>742655331
2C-I*
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>>742640671
I'm high on life.
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>>742655152
All I said was it looks like shitty bud. Maybe get a better camera.

Pic related. What I am smoking
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>>742655415
It's probably my camera lol shitty Android. Looks like some loud
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just finished up a half gram of coke

how you guys feelin
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>>742655172
Once I get onion to pop off for me I'll be all good but I'm super apprehensive. I'm the dude that used to buy once a year from someone I knew and tested everything as best I could. Times are tough, I'm a bit older now and it's hard to find the good good.
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>>742655497
Because an OS affects the quality of a camera
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>>742655045
Nigga I'm this guy >>742650664

I know what it's like to go through a withdrawal seeing as I tried quitting cold turkey, and it took months to get me clean entirely.

By the way this is the text book definition of dependency. It's literally just a nicer way to say you're addicted to something. I don't know where the hell you get the idea that being dependent on a drug means you are doing the drug to get well. Of course you don't want a withdrawal, and that scares a lot of people out of wanting to quit when they realize they have a problem, but it has to happen, it's a part of the recovery process, which by the way, doesn't involve doing more drugs.
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>>742643463
i just finished snorting my last hydro. Gonna enjoy the high for a bit before I go nod out. Definitely wish I had some roxies or an opana, though. much stronger for someone with my tolerance and easier to snort.
>>742644032
There's an old lady my brother knows who gets 15 mg roxies that she sells to us
great for snorting, small as fuck compared to a norco
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>>742655105
no, but they are extremely similar. the active chemical in mushrooms is 4-HO-DMT. the biggest difference is that one is in powder form.

>>742655123
i admit that i got all this from the deep web, which i wouldn't say is more dangerous than grey net as long as you take proper precautions. if you're burnt out on molly i would definitely reccommend 4-MeO-MiPT, really swirling, energetic and erotic.

>>742655172
>>742655360
honestly i found 2C-B kinda basic. 2C-I also.
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sober AF here, waiting till mon to get paid
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>>742655123
Yeah well you shouldn't be doing synthetic acid in the first place. It's dangerous and there have been reports of overdose from simply using a single tab, and the shit tastes nasty anyways. If you can't find real acid, then don't do it.
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>>742654592
Will check out thanks
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>>742655649
Take every safety precaution that people suggest when buying. I used my po box and didn't get it sent to my house.
>>742655716
You gotta nexus flip. 2cb on its own I have found bland.
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>>742655662
"Opioid dependence—addiction to prescription painkillers and heroin—is a treatable medical condition caused by changes in the chemistry of the brain.* When you're opioid dependent, the need to satisfy cravings or avoid withdrawal symptoms can be intense and difficult to manage on your own."
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>>742655827
What is non-synthetic LSD?
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>>742655662

Man you're fucking dumb as hell. I'm taking the drug to stay out of withdrawal, I don't like being dope sick so I take opiates so that I don't get dope sick. I'm fucking addicted to it and dependent on it. I'm taking them to stay well, AKA to be not dopesick. Of course it's bad for me and it's not helping me in the long run, but I don't want to fucking be dope sick so I take more. Is this really that difficult for you to understand?
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>>742643298
What kind of botany are you in to?
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>>742655827
you're thinking of nbomes, and you're right that they are dangerous. the 2C family is not this -'synthetic mescaline' would be a more accurate description.
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>>742656046
You sound like you're taking this way too personal.
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>>742656007
LSD is synthetic. I guess he means just do LSD since it has been researched and proven ,since the 50s, that it is pretty safe to do. Just test your tabs to make sure you have acid and not NBombe
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>>742656007
He's an idiot, but I think he was referring to research chemicals that are used and passed off as acid. It's pretty hard to find real authentic LSD around where I am, although I dont like psychedelics anyways
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>>742655716
Would you take 4-MeO-MiPT for a festival? Does it synergize with weed? That sounds like a desirable effect.
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>>742654592
First impressions are good. Ironically I could do a pile of rails to this album too.
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>>742656199
I see. Yeah, that makes sense.
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>>742655869
what site do you use? I take it silk road has been a honeypot since it got shut down years ago?
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>>742655869
nexus flipping sounds great. a shame that i've never had 2C-B and molly at the same time.
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>>742656046
stupid junkie kill yourself
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>>742641521

>crack has no negative effects

sure dude, enjoy your heart attack. and this isn't coming from somebody who has never tried it, I've felt what that shit does to your heart rate and one day it's just gonna burst on you.
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>>742655684

son why are you snorting hydros?
you waste like half the drug doing that.
can't lie to you tho, I've done it a few times just to get the feeling of putting something up my nose.
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>>742656342
Right on. Yeah, it goes good with a few different moods.
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>>742656007
Well for starters, LSD stands for "Lysergic acid diethylamide". 2C-B stands for "2,5-dimethoxy-4-bromophenethylamine", and 25-I is "25I-NBOMe".

So that should make it obvious as to why LSD is called LSD, and why other drugs like it are not the same drug. Sure they may give you similar highs, but LSD is the OG lab created psychedlic, and shit like 25-I and 2C-B are made to simulate the effects of LSD, and are often made with untested, harmful chemicals, and have been known to kill people with a single dose.
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>>742656082
damn, this just reminded me of the shit my buddy sold me, called it N-Bomb. I know it was a research chemical as he told me, said it was like 25-Nbome or something. You're saying that shits deadly?
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>>742656385
Alphabay. Used last fall.
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>>742656046
Don't you see how dumb you sound right now?

>I take drugs so I don't have to worry about withdrawals.

>That means I'm taking it to get better somehow, even though it will literally rot my teeth out one day
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>>742656527
Dammit. I still have a rail or 2 left. Your an enabler anon. Also any other recommendations?
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>>742656603
Well if it has a stupid ass designer drug name like fucking N-Bomb, then yeah, it's pretty dangerous and you should stay away from it.
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>>742656603
Yes. In high doses people have been known to die. It is often sold as LSD.

ALWAYS TEST YOUR TABS! There are kits online that you can buy.
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>>742646195
how can you sleep after smoking 2 grams dude
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>>742656913
My drug dealer has a bachelors degree chemistry, and always makes sure his shit is pure, so I just got lucky, and I never have to test anything.
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>>742657081
Hey if you trust your guy, by all means take it. I am pretty cautious so I like making sure I know what I am taking by testing it myself. You never really know what you're taking unless you make the chemicals yourself, so the next best thing is to test it yourself.
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>>742656568
well no shit the drugs have different names, that denotes the difference in composition.

I think touting these other psychedelics outside of LSD as "synthetic acid" is just reinforcing fear mongering about psychedelics. There's no guarantee what's on any tab but if I'm getting what I'm asking for, it's not any more dangerous than regular old acid.
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>>742657081
well my dad works at nintendo
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>>742657248
Except LSD won't kill you. Nbome will if you take too much.
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Get family acid at a greatful dead show
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>>742657430
that's why we don't take nbome, nigga.
We weren't even talking about that, I was discussing 2C-B.
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>>742657282
I'm pretty sure the implication here is that he tests it himself, and has a better understanding of the chemical composition in the drug, so it's easier for him to test it. plus I know what you're getting at here, but science is not that hard if you a legitimate interest in it and a little determination. You're basically saying that because chemistry seems difficult to you and your pea brain, the fleeting dream graduating with a science degree is comparable to that of getting a job that's so difficult to obtain that people who claim to have it are probably lying.
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>>742656811
Yeah, if you like Trip-Hop, check out Portishead's Dummy.
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>>742656603
well, i'm not a neurologist, but my understanding is that nbomes are full agonists of the 5-HT receptor, meaning they has the same preference for the receptor as our natural neurotransmitter serotonin (most psychedelics are only partial agonists). this means that it can do things to the body in high doses that LSD can't (resulting in things like sezures, heart attacks and organ failures). i've also heard that the dosing on tabs is often inconsistent, and that anyways people often have very different reactions to the same dose. i don't do them, but a lot of people have had great experiences on them.

>>742656328
yeah definitely. the trip always has two stages to it though: an energetic, 'rolling' kind of high for the first couple of hours, followed by a different, introspective comedown.

>>742655869
isn't a PO box linked to you by name? i don't see why that would be any different to your home address if someone was trying to catch you. i think the thing is that nobody is. it's too hard to detect vacuum packed drugs in the mail and there's too many people buying $50 worth of weed. the dealers are the target. your biggest worry is not getting scammed or losing your money by being stupid. alphabay is good, make sure you have the official url, go with a highly rated seller, remember your pin and recovery words.
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>>742657528
My point is that there is good reason to be cautious around "synthetic acid." Most of it is unreasearched stuff. I think people should stick with acid and shrooms if they want psylocibin
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>>742657528
2C-B can also be dangerous at high levels and it has a real bitch of a tolerance. It may be safer than nbome and 25-I, but that doesn't mean you should be using it.
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>>742657644
Or DJ Shadow's Endtroducing
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>>742657603
boy howdy you sure read me like a book, that's exactly what I was getting at

imagine if you were at a party and some dude next to you said "well my dealer has a degree in chemistry" don't tell me that doesn't sound like dad at nintendo, it's almost completely irrelevant to the topic of testing your own drugs.
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Is homeboy with the rails still in here?
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>>742657678
I took 2C-B 25-I,and I've done LSD on 4 different occasions. I never had any issues with LSD, but both 2C-B and 25-I were bitter as hell, and I had awful awful trips on both of them.
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>>742640671
>$50 a g
That shit is over $350 a g in Australia
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>>742657678
You're less likely to get a love letter. I have found employees at my post office, since SWIM worked at this post office, don't give two shits about your mail. They just throw it in without a second glance. Basically, the feds have more time to seize your package if you get it delivered to your house, and you risk a sting operation.
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>>742650354
>i'm of such watery and irresolute conviction I cant control my substances

Better give up coffee and booze while you're at it.
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>>742658051
You mean a raid?
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>>742657709
I can agree that there's less information available about the other stuff and it may be more dangerous but I'm not taking it for the same reasons I would take LSD. I'm looking for the empathogenic factor and synergy with MDMA.
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>>742640671
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>>742657735
well i'm sorry you had a bad experience on 2C-B - at least it was a short one. it's still not fair to compare it with nbomes in terms of danger.

>>742658051
yeah? that's an interesting point. and i should say, i don't live in america, things might be different there. i've never heard of anyone getting any attention here buying domestically.
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>>742657909
My dealer is very cautious of the drugs he sells, because he does those drugs too. He likes to now whats in the drugs he buys and sells and he has a conscience, so obviously he doesn't want to screw over his customers in a county full of conniving meth heads. And like I said, I don't see why that's so difficult to believe because math and science are not that difficult. They only seem difficult to people who have no interest in science or the motivation to learn them.
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>>742658333
Are those Ibuprofen??
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>>742658429
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>>742658051
I'm on the west coast so after those dumb fuckers at UCSC got caught with pounds of pills, it's gotten that much harder to buy true CP or G6 presses that have to hop the pond. I'm not exactly excited by my domestic prospects.
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>>742658429
It's oxy, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to look up the labels on the pill.
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>>742658429
Nooo... They will, however, cure a headache.
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>>742658395
Have you tried potentiating LSD with a Nootropic? I've used piracetam.
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>>742658608
Hahaha..yeah. I was messin' with ya.
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I have a ton of MS-Contin (Morphine Sulfate ER) which is utterly useless to get high on. But I'll have 100 dilaudids on tuesday.
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>>742658395
glad you kept the little nugget of ad hominem in there by continuing to imply that I can't comprehend science.

if you really cared about your own safety you would test your own drugs, dealer be damned. But I'm glad the scientific research that you've done on your dealer's infallible character gives you comfort.
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>>742658542
I don't do pills so I couldn't say how that works. I've bought tons of tabs with no issue. Even a gram of molly.
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>>742658644
I took two blotter hits with it. It seemed two peak very suddenly. It was an intense cerebral trip which lasted for two hours. And then it came to an abrupt end.
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>>742656522
that's a big part of it for me, plus the initial rush is pretty nice. I used to be against snorting them too because it hurt so bad, but my brother always snorts and he got me doing it. Yeah, there's quite a bit if powder and it burns like hell, but it hits much quicker and imo harder than if I just swallowed a single one. I can get a decent buzz snorting One, but if I swallowed it I wouldn't feel shit. I gotta swallow at least 3 10 mg to get a decent high
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>>742658850
I do love a dirty pill, I remember taking some green snapchats at EDC last year, my jaw was chattering nonstop and I had to be led around by the hand because I was seeing double. I figure I've got one of those in me a year.

How many times a year do you shop?
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>>742658730
Isn't the BA of morphine sulfate ER plugged fairly high? Given you wipe off coating, crush/mix in warm water, and use an oral syringe? Unless they changed the formula?
Also nice, diluadid, jealous haha
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>>742658810
The implication was that you see a science degree as something so difficult to obtain, that it's almost myth status, the stuff of legend, that you tell other people lies about to make yourself seem cooler. Also I don't need to base my research on his judge of character. He's not just my dealer, he's been one of my closest friends for 2 years, and I hang around him a lot, so I have around him when he tests the drugs he buys.
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>>742658698
I got pulled over once in an area 'known for narcotics' which the cop (state trooper, actually) used as probable cause to search my car. He turned my shit upside down, so pissed there was nothing to find.

The idiot took a bottle of ibuprofen -- clearly marked -- dumped all 100ish on my seat and walked back to where he had me detained thinking he had me busted.

He also found a bag from a jelly donut I had earlier in the day and thought the powdered sugar was coke. He was pretty intent on finding something. That idiot.
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>>742659107
2 or 3 times a year. But I am done with it now. Have a reliable guy now.
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>>742659286
I smell a lawsuit.
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>tfw work for moving company
>make it a mission to raid every clients medicine cabinets and boxes
>always come home with good painkillers
shits nice, so easy to steal shit when moving people, especially big jobs where shit can get "lost" easily. Have found so many scripts of hydros and codeine syrup it's not funny
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>>742659286
You'd think with all the donuts they eat, they'd be able to identify some powdered sugar.
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>>742659416
LOL fck
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>>742659109
The bioavailability is high, but they gel up when they get wet. I've taken the coating off and snorting them a few times but it wasn't worth it and turned the drip into gel. With the dilaudids, it's really just not worth going through the trouble of plugging the ms-contins.

I usually take the coating off and just chew up a bunch. I don't bang anything -- dope or pills -- but I snort the hell out of those dilaudids.
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>>742659220
see? you pulled some more details out of your ass to make this seem legitimate.

tell me more about your super cool dealer friend, anon
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>>742659542
Ahhh right right. Also yeah, same, I don't bang anything either, always snort/smoke/plug.
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>>742659416
Hahaha the irony wasn't lost on me, but it wasn't a joke I wanted to make sitting in his backseat.

He was getting pissed because I was so compliant. He threatened to get a dog, I told him to go ahead. Finally, he pulled me out, and said,'If you tell me where it is, you'll go home tonight, but if you don't, you're going to jail'. Which A) was a fucking lie and B) didn't happen when I mentioned my sister was a prosecutor and it was going to be tough to arrest me for a bullshit illegal turn.
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>>742640671
Why the fuck is everyone so judgemental about drugs here, OP clearly has control of his life, fuck off moral fags.
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>>742641260
You're stupid for using drugs because you have no friends. Maybe dont be a fucking loser addict and you'd have more friends
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>>742659599
>I hang around him a lot, so I am around him when he tests the drugs he buys.

Talkin' bout that?
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>>742659729
unhelpful.
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>>742659767
I'd just ignore him.
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>>742659353
My sister is actually an assistant prosecutor in the county that it happened in. I didn't drop her name until he really got shitty with me... But she told me that this particular guy always acted like fucking Tommy Toughnuts all the time and the other stateys and local guys made fun of him all the time for it.
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>>742659633
I've never plugged. Not because I'm against the idea, I just have that attachment to the ritual of snorting everything.
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>>742659832
Tommy Toughnuts, huh?
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>>742659936
They called him 'the road warrior' and he was proud of it.
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>>742659832
Tommy toughnuts lol

>>742659909
Understandable, I switch roa depending on circumstance/med - much easier to take orally/sublingual/snort when out and about hah
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Jesus, I can't stand a cop with a little bit of attitude. I don't know how I would have dealt with him.
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>>742659832
I hate cops like that. I once got pulled over by a cop who informed me my brake light was out. I was wearing a shirt that had a pot leaf on it, and he went from being friendly to Mr. Macho police man in split second. He instantly said he smelled weed and was going to search my car. He got so mad when he couldn't find anything. I refused to answer any of his questions without an attorney present, repeatedly asked if I was being detained or under arrest. The dude was so red in the face I though he was going to hit me or have a heart attack.

Instead he kicked my car and left a dent in the door. I didn't say anything. I just glared at him as he left. As soon as I got home, I called my buddy and we sued him. He lost his jon and paid for,repairs. He bought me that brake light he pulled me over for.
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>>742660258
Omfg lol, good story
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>>742660061
The whole thing was fucking bizarre. He stopped me because after I rolled into the intersection on green to turn left, I didn't turn into the curb lane -- which would have been a 90+ degree turn since I was in the intersection already. I don't know where he was sitting, but he was on me in a second.

Once, he took me out of the car I kind of played along because I knew there was nothing to find. So I let him pull out my duffel bag and proceed to pull my day old, probably still sweaty workout and golf clothes article by article on the hood of his car. Once he started putting my golf clubs and stuff on the ground, it started to get old.

I had a few scare before where I've had to swallow something fast, so it felt awesome knowing he would never find anything.
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>>742640671
Sup dude. Is that crack rock? I used to smoke weed all the time but eventually i only became paranoid as hell. Dont get that far
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>>742660258
That's awesome. I'm glad you sued him and won. It's an L for all of the dickhead cops out there.
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>>742660258
Well good for you.

I don't respect the drug laws that they enforce, but I understand that they have to enforce it.

What I don't understand is why they feel the need to go that extra mile leaving no stone unturned in the pursuit of charging you with a crime.

If they've thought deeply about these laws they're enforcing, I'm sure they would reach a similar conclusion to mine. I believe drugs should be legal, but if they're illegal you should be able to pick them up and take them to a safe place to administer the substances. Any crime committed during transport can be reduced down to what is essentially a pre-crime. They will arrest you for something they think you might could have done in the future.
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>>742660742
I don't know about that. A lot of police officers I have encountered seem to think weed is worse than the fact we had a black man as president. But then again I am in the south.

Basically, they're blinded by the Nixon rhetoric.
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>>742660938
Yeah, I'm in the South, as well. But my main gripe is that when I ask them about why they enforce a law that infringes upon my innate rights as a human, they tell me that they're just doing their jobs. If you were just doing your jobs and you practiced a bit of discretion for the easy going situation, then you wouldn't be hell bent on finding drugs from a hunch.
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>>742661228
I don't think pigs get the idea of bodily autonomy. Or rights for that fact.
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And, yeah, I blame the Nixon Administration for the deceitful lies told to kowtow the public into surrendering some of our rights.
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>>742660938
I just finished med school -- I got into a car accident before I could start my residency, so I'm kind of just in limbo now -- and I spent a summer working with a mentor of mine who had just opened an outpatient opiate treatment clinic. I've had my own addiction issues so it was rewarding to see things from the other side.

Part of the clinic agreement was having a sheriff present when the clinic was open (mostly to supervise the urine tests b/c so many patients were mandated) and we sat around for a lot of hours talking about the 'war on drugs'. The sheriff who was usually there, which was a pretty cherry gig, had a really progressive outlook on the situation and really favored harm reduction and getting addicts treatment instead of just locking them up over and over. In his mind, it wasn't helping anyone and was actually leading to more petty crimes committed by addicts to support their habits. He didn't have a lot of support in the department, which seems to be the norm.
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>>742661302
No, and I believe it's a willful ignorance to boot.
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>>742661367
I'm sure there are a lot of cops who think that way. I have just have dealt with a bunch of asshole cops, that I am a little salty. We need more police officers who recognize that retribution does nothing for addicts.
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I agree. Ultimately, it's up to the people to decide how important ending the failed drug war is to them. But the DEA,needs their jobs. The police need their funding. And politicians need that extra scapegoat for their reelection campaigns.
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>>742661302
They just stretch the laws to the very edge... Probable cause has become VERY broad and, if someone actually knows and stands up for their rights, they're viewed as not cooperating and therefore suspicious.

They'll stop someone for speeding. Ask them if it's okay to search the car without probable cause, and, if you don't consent, there has to be a reason. So, you either consent or they'll detain you until they can get a dog or find some other reason to jam you up. A warning becomes a ticket. They'll find some other bullshit to ticket you for -- I got a ticket when I was 18 in a new SUV for having the dealership's license plate frame covering too much of the temp tag that they put on the car the previous week. He wrote me a ticket for not having a valid insurance card for the vehicle even though it was only like 5 days old and I had a valid card for another vehicle. I think the cop was just pissed that I was 18 and driving a nice, new suv.
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That's not to mention the prison industry. They go so far as to lobby for a certain percentage of capacity to be filled. Does this provide an incentive to fill arrest quotas to fulfill these contracts?
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>>742661692
I definitely don't blame you for being salty... I think the problem is that the cops on the street who deal with addicts everyday don't have any influence compared to police chiefs or elected sheriffs/officials who haven't been on a patrol in years.
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>>742661764
I get what you mean. I am fortunate enough to have my best friend. He's an attorney and will work pro bono for me if police overstep their bounds. Violate my rights, I'll make damn sure you lose your job.
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Yeah, you're right. I just really dislike this obviously failed system when their are experiments in policy taking place in other countries that are proving the concept of getting rid of the punitive actions to drug abuse and introducing treatment options, instead.

Yeah, I wish I had access to a connection like that. Very Lucky.
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I'm going to get some rest. It was nice talking to you.

Hasta Luego.
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>>742640671
no matter who you are, as long as you use drugs you are automatically a looser and idiot. Bigotry is your friend ;)
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hahahahaha
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