OK /b/ all edgyness aside, I'm a britfag and i have to ask

> yanks need to get their shit together and stop pissing in your own boots

Each side here expects the other side to stop pissing first.

>>742630406
>believing the propaganda on the tele

>>742630688
that... actually makes a fair amount of sense i guess, still dumb as fuck though, it honestly makes me sad to see a good country go down hill so quickly

>>742630887
i don't really watch the news, most of it i get from what my US friends are telling me are happening, both ones on the right and trans girls etc, nobody seems to have anything good to say about the situation

>neo nazis and racist marching in the street

First thing i can tell you britfag is to never believe anything you see from the media. They want everyone to think that's all the group was. But actually they we're a majority of people feeling they we're being attacked and that they needed to stand together against the hate. We can't do that here anymore unless you black or alt left so rip. We just gotta suck it up.

>>742631105
hmm, we do have a similar problem here, you can get called racist at the drop of a hat, but generally people still listen to those people and have a conversation rather than all the marching etc (turns out most of the time they are just plain racist though)

>>742631105
crock of shit. the Klan showed up with assault rifles

>>742631346
The real racist here though aren't the people marching. Its the one's illegaly disrupting their protest. They're against mainstream white people
>Christian
>Support Trump
>Even the slightest of right
We're being led like sheep to either be slaughtered or join the herd they have.

>>742631481
Sauce or did you see that on some half ass news site

I can with almost complete certainty guarantee that these protests will have been forgotten in a matter of weeks. They news media needs something to talk about and this just so happens to be a juicy morsel that can sustain the news cycle for a fair amount of time.

Neo-Nazis have been protesting for years here in America. This is nothing new, no matter what the media would lead you to believe.

The trick is to resist the temptation of getting sucked into their forced point of view and remain cognizant of the bigger picture.

>>742631481
>>742631346
that was me OP talking about the uk

>>742631683
i just dont get the need for it though, over here if you vote tory you're considered a bit right wing and a bit of a cunt that likes the rich and if you vote labour you're considered a bit of a liberal softy, but race just isnt an issue here, ok you get muslim protests saying kill the west every now and then and groups like ukip and the bnp which are basicly drunk white guys shuting go home paki's, but nobody really gives a shit and just sees them as assholes that need to get a life. why are americans so fired up about race ect in the first place? is something happening over there causing this?

>>742630406
It's mostly just confirmation bias and media exploiting that for ratings and profit.

>>742632068
this is exactly what i mean, thats how most brits seem to think

>>742630406
idk most of us are pretty good, we just let the retards battle it out in the streets and take care of each other

>>742632345
kek, that's what i wanted to hear really, all i hear about the US is bad, you guys are getting a really bad rep over here atm, glad it's not as bad as people make out

>>742631105
Right... don't believe anything, put on your tin foil hat and get all your info from conspiracy theorists. A group that controls everything and feels victimized already indicates that they have issues with themselves. Probably because they're made up coddled frat boys that think they're entitled to their very own dealership from their daddy or white trash that can't hold job because they think their 8th grade education entitles them to a management position, so they spend all their energy blaming everyone else but themselves for not making themselves better or a marketable commodity that would/could be successful...

>>742632200
There's nothing really major happening. One political party has mastered the way of communicating a scapegoat in order to mask the policies that are actually damaging to those that are protesting.

>>742632928
It's not so much that "the evil media controls the narrative." It's just that the media in the US is always a business first. Their job is to make money and the "truth" makes more money than the truth because that's what people want to hear.

>>742632928
Kek you're fucking prejudice against the right. If you really think everyone who supports trump is like that go seek help or better yet join antifa and die in the upcoming war between the two radicals. You pleb

>>742632485
Picture dockworkers/miners in London going after Indians for taking their jobs after their jobs have been replaced by machines or there isn't any coal left to mine or ships to unload or build, and they're entitled to jobs without putting any effort forth to retraining...

>>742633286
Not the "truth"... Sensationalism/drama sells and you're right, the truth is sacrificed in many instances, but not always..

If you come here you will notice that the vast majority of right wing republicans denounce KKK, neo Nazis, and white supremacists (including me). However, the left and Democrat politicians refuse to condemn Antifa, BLM, and other far left violent groups. Instead they make excuses and try to hide the massive amounts of violence and destruction they have caused. The list of republicans who denounced the actions of far right wingers is endless. The list of democrats who have denounced far left wingers is non existent. Because non of them have done so

>>742630406
STOP believing the media .

The violence you see in the streets
is a very small percentage of our country .
The media themselves are most of the problem .
A LOT of these "protestors " are actually being payed to protest/riot by George Soros to
push a controlled leftist agenda .
They are all just " useful idiots " .

The media calls EVERYONE that won't
go along with them racists or KKK/neo-Nazis .

The last few rallies they targeted were actually pro-freedom of speech rallies -yet they
called them KKK/neo-Nazis .
The media refuses to show how many of the pro-freedom of speech activists were actually asian .African American ,and hispanic .

>>742633334
No, prejudice implies I'm pre-judging, I'm not, I'm judging...
Being defensive about it indicates there's some truth to what I posted. It's true that I'm against true fascism, so I'm guessing you're for it then?

Brexit

>>742633944
Sorry i stopped reading after pre-judging kek my sides

>>742633619
hence why "truth" was in quotations. The most basic basic thing in a news article will probably be a fact, like "trump tweeted this message". The rest will be bullshit, like "this tweet is further proof that trump is a nazi sympathizer" or whatever. But that's what their market wants to hear. Its annoying but I can't blame them for doing the thing that is making them money. I'd argue that it's not worth actively undermining your own government for some ratings but eh.

>>742630406
The majority of Americans are sitting around watching this madness thinking it's really fucking stupid. Don't let American media sensationalising the 5% of extremists in America for ratings fool you.

>>742633674
yeah i figured as much, but it's not just the media, this thread is the first time in weeks ive seem anything but divisive vitirol coming from either side, which is a good thing, honestly i realised it's blown out of proportion, but the most extreme sides have the loudest voices and thats all we getto hear about this side of the pond

>>742634088
everybody is pretty meh about the whole brexit thing, mainly football (soccer) hooligans are the only ones that actually care

>>742630406
Native American reporting in. I hate America and I wish to take our land back. Will you help us Easterner

>>742634356
dude there are like 5 of you left, you aint taking shit

>>742634585
Fuck you Amerifat

>>742634356
kek, i'm english, techically it was the french and dutch that took your lands so you'd have to ask them, but yeah i think you guys should be given a LOT more than you got back, i do have a lot of respect for your culture though

and i gotta say /b/ this is the last place i expected to find reasonable opinions but i'm pleasantly surprised, no matter where you look be it social media, the news, online forums, it seems like your country is regressing, glad to see it's not all that bad

>>742630406
>civil civilians following the law
anti american
>criminals violently attacking those whos right to protest is protected under the constitution, american heros
top kek, only an american could be that stupid

>>742634970
By the end of the year most of the anger will have subsided. It'll just be your normal "the president is doing things I don't like"

>>742630406
Mind your own fucking business you wanky tooth bastard

>>742634165
See, this is the real problem with America. It's capitalism run rampant. Don't get me wrong, I'm no commie, but when you let the free market run wild, it generally decides it wants to give you as little as it can for as much mo et as it can extract.

In that spirit, everything is for profit; healthcare, the prison system, the media, the military, etc. and that fucks everything right up. People die of preventable problems or go broke going to the hospital because we can't just have free healthcare. The justice system is fucked because imprisoning people is profitable. The media turns people into raving fanatics because outrage and drama makes money.

People are so willing to fuck each other for money. The problem is, they don't seem to realize that they're fucking shit up for everyone, including themselves.

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>>742630406
Fuck off, Limey Nigger.

Get your own shit straightened out first. You bastards let Muslims in by the boatload and they murder you and rape your children. You fags can't even figure out when to leave the EU even though your people already voted for it.

Get your own house in order before you start complaining about ours.

>>742630406
Do you ever feel that people in the UK and Europe should worry more about their own countries and spend less time expressing their opinions about the US?

>>742630406
There are more than 300 million people in the U.S., and this a few crazies. Though an amazing number of regular people are watching think it's this big ginormous thing. But it's not, they're just stupid.

>>742635476
Jealously is like an itch. You're asking people to not scratch, when they have an itch. That just means they're going to scratch more.

>>742630406
>get along like the majority do in the UK

A.) Your people get run over by trucks on a weekly basis, because you allow the "religion of peace" into your country with no restrictions.
B.) Your socialist single-payer health care system is a fucking disaster.
C.) Your people cowered in the corner while America rushed to save your pathetic asses over the course of two world wars, so you could continue to enjoy the same freedoms of speech, assembly, etc., that those "asses" in America do.

Show some respect, you ungrateful bastard. I've been to England. It's nothing special. In fact, the people I met in Birmingham were some of the rudest, most inconsiderate assholes I've ever had the displeasure of interacting with. Stick to your tea and crumpets, and leave your criticism of America behind. The "holier than thou" shit we get from foreign countries who we spend OUR money to defend on a daily fucking basis is tiresome, to say the least.

>>742631481
did they tho?

>>742634159
That's alright, you proved my point...

>>742630406

Here's the problem:

Everyone is playing the victim card to some extent. Everyone is in some way convinced that THEY are going to come and destroy them.

The current situation in America could be fixed so fucking fast if everyone just stopped being a bunch of reactionists and actually work towards the common goal of fixing America then the crazies on all sides would become the minority and the voice of reason would be the fuckin order of the day.

A bunch of splinter groups whining about losing this or that? For fuck sakes America, your forefathers would be absolutely disgusted at where you ended up, you were handed a god damned golden ticket to be able to shape whatever country you need America to be and you're wasting your chance to be it.

>>742635425
Specifically when it comes to the media, I really can't come up with an alternative. You stop the free market with government regulations, but giving the government some control over the media looks like the same problem under a different name. I guess we have things like libel/slander laws but I have no idea how easy it is to actually enforce those. And they probably wouldn't help anyway.

>>742635425
Laissez-Faire Capitalism isn't as much of a thing in American as it used to be.

What we have now isn't salt-of-the-earth Capitalism. It's more accurately described as a mixed-economy Corporate Oligarchy. The last time we had a generally Capitalist economy was the late 90's. Things have changed a lot since then.

>>742635598
True. Any time there is a US news story with a comment section there is a group of people who have never even been to the US pontificating at though there are people anxiously awaiting their opinions.

>>742634165
Depends on what the tweet says. The higher the level of sensationalist bullshit contained within, the more the frenzy. Quoting someone isn't fabricating news, speculating on the motivations of why it was said is.

>>742635476
Did you ever consider that the US has both the largest military and economy in the world and, as such, what happens in your country has ramifications around the globe?

It's not all about you, m8s.

>>742630406
The political right cut education funding back in the 1980s. Now we have this.

>>742635730
>the crazies on all sides
why can't you accept there's just ONE SIDE who's fucking shit up?

>>742630406
>A Brit lecturing Americans on oppression

You live in a surveillance state that's even worse than ours, your inability to control the corruption of your financial institutions is at minimum as bad as ours and likely even worse, you worship the inbred failure offspring of the laziest pieces of shit on the planet--royalty, Muslim extremists pull way more shit on your soil than ours, your thugs are just as bad as ours except they're white so they don't have i-cant-avoid-historical-racism-because-my-skin-color to blame, and your citizens continue to vote companymen into office.

I'm not saying we're any better, but how can you think "what the fuck is wrong" with Americans when your country is just as bad? You guys probably get more US news items pumped into your brains than vice versa, but that doesn't mean the US is unique in any of it.

>>742635902
>speculating on the motivations of why it was said is.
That's basically what we're seeing. Trump can fucking tweet the weather and CNN will cover it as further proof that Trump is anti-science or some shit.

>>742636076
Which side are you biased toward, anon?

>>742635322
>>742635439
>>742635476
insecurity complex detected, i wasn't dissing your precious country just asking what you guys think about the situation
>>742635630
oh dear looks like the colonies are acting up again, though i cant argue the birmingham point, they are know for their rudeness, aside from that you're pretty misinformed all the other points, especailly about the "socialist" heathcare, i had my arm crushed and had to have major surgery, how much did that cost me? nothing, when you get so defensive it just shows you have no idea what you're talking about m8
>>742635730
agreed

>>742635812
True, it's not an easy thing to deal with. CNN's president did admit that he shouldn't have given Trump as much coverage as he did and was blinded by the money, so maybe he's learned something. Not counting on it, though. Really, the media just needs to decide to stop being immoral fuckheads and do their job rather than just being whores.

>>742635949
The fascination that people in other countries have with the US does not match the affect that the US has on those countries. Not by a long shot.

>>742636158
I go with science and reason

>>742631481
Even if true, 0 gun violence amirite? Zeeeero despite all the scary black rifles with big scary scopes - even in the face of hated individuals.

>>742636076

Why cant you accept that America is a country full of people that you dont like.

You dont have to like the motherfuckers you just have to work with them.

>>742636218
Science and reason would state that if you are human, you are biased and suffering from confirmation bias almost 24/7.

>>742636162
I didn't say you were dissing my country, I was asking a legit question. It doesn't seem like many countries out there are anywhere near perfect and it seems like people in many countries with their own serious problems spend an inordinate amount of time fascinated with the US and I wanted to get your opinion on that.

>>742635812
The USA has endured through this before in a less technologically advanced era during the turn of the century. Read up on Hearst and Pulitzer and yellow journalism...

>>742630406
americans take everything to excess
it's what makes us the best

and the worst

>>742631481
That never happened dumbass

>>742630406
Well, I was afraid of this. I had REALLY hoped the rest of the world didn't notice. I'm ashamed of my countrymen, frankly.

>>742630406
>load of special snowflakes fighting them. are you all actually so blind that you cant see that your nation is being split in two by your goven
actually you're about spot on with that. Signed. OP was not a fag today.

>>742636330
>i can't condemn the Republican Party
kys

>>742636270
I do accept that anon.
They don't. They want "second Amendment solutions" because we protect minorities and poor people.

>>742630406
>Country of 300 million
>100k is a "big" demonstration
>299,900,000 not giving a fuck
>"what the fuck is wrong with all of you!?"

>>742636208
When it involves possible nuclear annihilation, then yes it does.

>>742636386
I have no doubt that the US will endure it. I'm just saying that I can't think of a way to actually end it. Like actually come up with some way to ensure that the news is just straight newst without being in a situation where one group gets to decide what the truth is.

>>742636162
You're clearly misinformed about your own healthcare system, dumbass. It's failing. As for being misinformed? How does it feel having to worry about dodging white vans while you walk your dog in the morning? We pay for your defense (NATO), we cover your back in any war you get into, we take out virtually every terrorist threat known to man, and you want to... What? Crack lame jokes about the "colonies"? Seriously? Wait until you graduate high school (or whatever they call it in Britain) before you start trying to make a cohesive argument. Also, learn to properly type a sentence so it doesn't look like a fifth grader wrote it: "oh dear looks like the colonies are acting up again". Or do they not teach that stuff in your tenth grade english course?

>>742630406
There was literally only 1 dude with a Nazi flag and the media blew it up. He seemed like a paid shill cause when shit went down. He was nowhere to be found. Also britland is fucked. You guys protect Muslims they can rape anyone but say one mean thing to them and it's a hate crime. Fuck off

>>742630406

I literally didn't read your post.

I literally didn't read this thread.

I swear to my life that is true, I am a completely naked person sitting drunk on a couch I still owe money on, in a house I have actually paid off, using credit cards I am still enslaved to.

I voted for tump, and I didn't do it because I like him, I did it because it seems like the people who legally own my life would prefer he didn't get any power.

Hillary favored: I actually have no idea. I'm going to say it. I literally have no idea what Hilary Clinton wanted. To this day my only impression is that ths hates the way things are and wants to invite in refugees.

Europe is doing great. Top fucking notch. But I'm glad Trump won honestly.

>>742636218
Cool. So do you agree with the [dominant] scientific research that proves the mentally ill status of trans people? Do you believe in the sociological and historical evidence that certain religious groups are more inclined to violence and that being wary of them does not necessarily make a xenophobic person racist but rather more careful and more thoughtful with regard to the safety of their kin? Do you agree the reasonable assertion that racism is inherently stupid because skin color is a meaningless trait, but that practices like Affirmative Action and demographically-motivated hiring quotas based on sex, race, and sexual orientation do more to harm a society than to help it? Do you recognize the prevalence of anti-white racism that dominates popular culture to a more than significant degree and agree that this rise in white nationalism is a counterpunch to that flavor of retardation?

>>742636117
Yes and no.
Like I said, depends on what the content is.
If he tweets something with regards to the weather and how it proves the non-existence of climate change, then probably yes. If he's tweeting about how the weather is fucking up his golf course, then it probably would get ignored or laughed at for him not being able to golf more days than Obama...
Thing is, he's doing it on purpose, if he can feed them that, they won't cover other things he's doing... So it's just gaming the system. Most people won't check any facts he tweets, just want to see the fight...

>>742636385
personally, i think the muslim problem isn't as bad as it's made out to be hear, you have these jihad attacks all around the globe atm, but the attacks in the UK are nothing compard to whats happening in other countires that dont make the news, as for the brexit thing i voted to stay but it doesnt bother me, nobody know what theyre doing in the govenment and i don't expect anything else from them, i guess it the same way most of you guys seem to feel about trump and the riots, meh dumbasses be dumbasses

>>742636539
What exactly did you read when you looked at the words I wrote?

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1. you have labeled conservatives by brand names
2. you have divided the population by race and gender
3. you have tried to silence other contradictive options.
4 stop reading saul alinski radical books

>>742634356
I would, and I fucking live here. Everyone should go the fuck back to the cultures they're proud of. White people who want to live in european offshoots, gtfo back to europe and make europa great again, niggerdom, plz return to sort your african countries out, which you should be able to do arriving en masse with your U.S. education and $. Native dudes get their lands back and quit having cunts fuck with them, to rebuild their population to pre-colonial/smallpox thriving societies and nations. Just press the fucking undo button over the last 500 years. Also, ffs, south american cultures, recover what you can, speak your own fucking langauages, not 15th century Don Quixote Spanish, cause that's not doing anyone any good anyway. Also, dudes, seriously, can you plz build more awesome stone pyramids on mountaintops, because no one else does it like that anywhere and that work is fucking incredible.

Everybody, just fuck off for a while, and leave each other be, to work out their shit after the whole chaotic disasterous clusterfuck of the last half a millenium.

>>742636218
So neither side?

>>742636689
Before CNN went batshit, they used to have Headline News which reported the news and looped it every half hour/ 40 minutes adding stories as they happened. No talking heads, just a guy reading off what was happening, to the point where it was droll narration. Then of course it got the axe in favor of drama...

>>742636848
>practices like Affirmative Action

fuck you stormfag

>>742636848
>anti-white racism
all you're doing is proving why the political right is the real threat to this society.

We can't progress without this shit gumming up the works.

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>>742636848
>ur into science, cool
>now plz reinforce my political tribes ideology
>otherwise ur not science

Science does not work that way GOODNIGHT

>>742637088
You believe "both sides" are to blame. When they're not.

Fuck you. Is that clearer?

>>742637311
Fuck you, racist

>>742637164
Liberals are pro-science and reason, so no.
Nice try, faggot.

>>742637448
You're right. This is all the Left's fault.

>>742637493
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha!

>>742637457
I said shut the fuck up stormfag

you lost your privileges here

>>742637385
Spotted the cuck.

>>742636730
i'm pretty sure i know the state of the NHS better than you as i use it regularly and as for white vans... you're more likely to be hit by a plumber late for work driving one than a terrorist, but that doesnt make the news, also we dont have high school or 10th grade, though we do have a govenment funded loan system for university so we don't end up with crippling debt for going, and yeah i'm well aware of americas huge ass army, great for you guys, i'm sure you're doing a great job policing the world, maybe if you did it better there would be less dead indian kids from drone strikes and less terrorist attacks? i didn't start this thread to argue but you're just being obnoxious, also we followed you into the middle east and stayed there after you made a mess and left... i like america but you seem to be kind of an over patriotic dick that would rather insult than talk about the actual topic

>>742637539
Racism isn't right, you racist

>>742630406
No mention of bloody hell, not a britfag.

>>742637501
It is in a way. We are changing the tired paradigm that you serve. And now your masters have set you after us.

>>742637448
Yes it's clearer.

It's also wrong. I said that humans are suffering confirmation bias almost all the time. Nothing else.

>>742637616
Your master on the other hand is Big Brother. You're treating 1984 like an instruction book.

>>742637613
oh bugger i must have forgot that, sorry guvn'er

>>742637537
I'm sorry reality causes you to react hysterically, anon. :^)

Liberals are working to shape this society. Face it. That's why there's so much opposition from the hardliners.

>>742635730

This, it seems like nobody wants to come to the table anymore, they want to take it to the streets right from the word go.

Politicians at all levels bending to this or that instead of putting their careers on the line to work.

The CEO of a military contractor has more power in America than a senator or a congressman.

>>742630406
DIVERSITY
its coming your way to mate

>>742637695
Blimey, my blood pudding is the cockles. God save the Queen!

>>742637580
>cuck
go to bed 8th grade

>>742637611
Why are you still posting?
Shut up.

>>742637643
You're a lolbertarian, aren't you?

lol

>>742637164
It's kind of fucking amazing how deluded the left has gotten with their "we're on the right side of history" and "we like science over here, fella" bullshit. Not only is there no *right* side of history--because history's lessons are entirely in the eye of the beholder--but they use the same principles that they condemn the right for against their own people.

>blacks are so inferior they can't help themselves and need the white man's help (racism)
>white men are inherently evil and society is built for them--even if they're poor and haven't actually gotten any benefits for these things (racism, sexism)
>trans people aren't mentally ill (anti-science)

The louder they get with this irrational dogshit, the more people start to buy into the right's form of retardation. Society really is just an ebb and flow of idiots moving back and forth across the aisle while the people who actually COULD make decisions that benefit us all get paid to not do so by military and corporate interests and instead flame this war of the mongoloids.

>>742637705
This isn't Walden 2, motherfucker. Social engineering only works with the imposition of an intolerant authoritarian state.

>>742637821
Also, in a lot of ways, the left is very regressive. They've arguing for a lot of things that Western society ditched in the middle ages.

>>742637785
Why are you still a racist?

>>742637730
Uk has diversity, we just ignore it and get on, of course we have assholes too, just think it's the US media causing shitstorms out of proportion by the look of this thread

>>742637749
got you! we'd say it the dogs bollocks not the cockles!

>>742637815
You're literally hallucinating words that aren't there. I can't help you with that.

>>742637987
Gosh darn it, it was the Cockney rhyming slang that threw me!

>>742637311
>>742637385
Affirmative action is anti-white. If you don't see this, then you can't be helped. REAL equality is everyone gets a shot. There are poor people on both sides, you know. Those that work their way up the social ladder and prove themselves should get the shot. Do you think they should let manlet crackers into basketball and keep tall black youths from getting those careers? If you believed in the principle of AA--some people have societal factors holding them back and need a leg up to get into positions they want--you'd say fuck it, fill those benches with at least 60% white manlets. Your ideology is only hurting its spread to those in the center who aren't racist but who can also spot unfair practices a mile away. And if you can't see that anybody with a mouth can spout off about white people with ZERO repercussions, or you can see that and don't think it's a form of racism, you're beyond help. Maybe you'll come around in your 20s like a lot of us did.

>>742630406
>thinking that the few people you see on television represent the whole nation
>not realizing that most people are indeed "minding their own lives and getting along"

>>742637920
You're the racist, faggot.
Black people disturb you.

>>742637594
I've talked about the topic, and it's clear that you don't understand the state of your healthcare, given as how you clearly think it's going splendidly. Google "british healthcare system problems", and then continue with your incorrect narrative that your system is fantastic. Congratulations, you guys pump money into your university system. I won't even bother trying to argue the negatives of "free college for everyone", since I'm confident that it would go right over your head. As for "policing the world", I never said that America SHOULD be going to places like Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. But when Al Qaeda or ISIS comes knocking, we get shit done, while simultaneously using our tax-payer's dollars to ensure that the Limeys across the sea aren't bombed to shit. Time for your country to pay its fair share in NATO, bud. And again, type like you aren't twelve. It's a pain to read when you can't even be bothered to capitalize simple things like "I". That, and it makes you look incredibly stupid.

>>742637987
>just think it's the US media causing shitstorms out of proportion by the look of this thread
The media and all the idiots who think things like stranger danger or Satanic cults are a thing, and panic about school shootings and all kinds of other things that happen so rarely they shouldn't be a factor in public policy.

>>742638146
after reading this thread i realise that's the case now lel

>>742638168
No, they don't. Whereas you've been tossing around racially charged everythings from the very start.

>>742636867
I find that it isn't a muslim problem specifically, I take it to be what it is because of the foreign policy post ottoman empire. Europe and the US has had an influence on the middle east since forever and most of it has ended up in coup d'etat's and civil wars just so the west can spread its influence. In all that violence lurks anger in the arab people, some of them are productive with their confrontation with adversity and others aren't so productive and that's where the islamist fucks run rampant.

>>742630406
every problem gets solved by going to an alternate universe

>>742636615
100k people in a single demonstration? Where and when did this happen?

>>742638146
This is really it. Even the people you agree with--socialists, social democrats, libertarians, progressives, alt-right, etc.--are all spinning their own narratives and creating boogeymen for you to fear. These people make money off of this conflict. Most people don't give a shit about anything but what's in front of them and anyone who makes a big deal out of these talking points IRL are largely left on their own to seek out echo chambers and stew about the next RED MENACE.

>>742638429
The March for Life.

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>>742636848

Not that anon, but recently graduated Amerifat STEM major. Pretty much yeah to all of that.

I do wonder about how much estrogen in the water supply is affecting the whole trans thing though. A lot of it is just attention whores or people that failed at life and feel like they get a second chance or w/e erroneously, but these numbers aren't coming from nowhere either. Disproportionate amount of MtF too, especially considering FtM get waaay better results usually. Whatever, more degenerate butts for me to bang.

White nationalism is the natural reaction but quickly becoming just as cancerous in its execution. Maybe I'm just biased because I live near Idaho and have to put up with it more than the alternative.

lol op i read it in a funny accent

cheers mate, can i bum a fag?

>>742637991
Then pick a side.
Say "I am a proud Democrat."
Do it, goddammit.

>>742638574

The 7th day adventist preachers and whatnot on campus were way more outwardly hateful than the muslim students though. I haven't exactly had positive experiences with fundy Christians and their influence on society either.

>>742638527
Im canadian and I am wondering. Are the rational not talking due to indifference? All I see on the internet is retards spewing their retardation. Its giving me a bad view on americans as a whole, whether its either left or right.

>>742630406
do you actually expect a rational discussion from those animals? i don't need to read the thread to know they're all just shitting in each other's faces. like, it has come to the point that i would not be surprised if they literally started to hold people down and shit in their face.

>>742638198
i never said it was perfect, it's true at the moment the govenment is cutting it to pieces in the hopes to privatise it, and we don't have free college but subsidized college, also im replying to a lot of people so forgive me if i say i instead of I, as for the "we get shit done" i'm curious, from your know it all attitude i'm guessing you've never stepped foot in those war zones, i was a soldier for seven years fighting the wars that YOUR country started and i can tell you from personal experince that most of what the americans got done out there was friendly fire and drinking beer while my friends went on patrol and got killed, so don't use 'we' unless you've actually done something other than complain how your govenment decides to spend huge amounts of your taxes building a massive millitary force then blame it on other countries for not doing the same

>>742638132
>Affirmative action is anti-white.

I said stop posting stormfag

>>742638748
Another anon, but it's very useful to pigeonhole people. Because once you put them in a familiar slot, you can stop thinking and just react based on your previous knowledge.

Or, you know, you could stop being prejudiced and actually deal with issues that are raised instead of insisting that everyone must wear this convenient label that fits your narrative. But that's harder, because it requires thought.