How does giving government absolute power over everything anti-fascist?

>>742545510
yes

>>742545510
*How is* giving government absolute power over everything anti-fascist?

----low quality bait is low quality

>>742545510
absolutely
this is some top quality bait my friend

>>742546721
fuck this bitch

>In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is the philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state.[5][6]

absolute power for the government is literally anathema to communists

>>742545510
Uh, those dudes were opposed to the Nazi party.

>>742545510
Antifa is the globalist nwo's wet dream, I mean I'm pretty sure they are funded by soros

>>742547105

I can pick any label i want, from spic to nigger, but that won't change what i actually am, a masterrace. likewise, the alt-left group known currently as antifa can give themselves multiple names, but their actions paint themselves as being controlled and funded by democrats, which makes them about as far from being communists as I am far from having any melanin in my skin

>>742547802
Wat???

>>742547802
I don't think you understand... Antifa is like anonymous. There is no membership, no hierarchy, no leadership.
All there is are patriotic americans ready to shut down fascists whenever they decide to come out of hiding.

>>742545510
Newfriend, it was only a couple years ago when people here argued against redneck doctrine.

Heres the bottom line- people joke about shitting on the common man, but Anon has always been for the common man. Not the skinhead thugs. Look at the side where Anon used to show up, it was always to the "left", against the assholes. But Trump fractured that. Anarchy itself broke apart, which is a weird fucking concept.

In my mind, if you're not against the white supremicists, the nazis, AND the Trump coalition that is fracturing in spectacular fashion, you're on the wrong side. We can argue the politics later, but this shit just ain't right.

I'm an American.

>>742548090
There are Antifa patriots around the world.

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>>742548094
>Look at the side where Anon used to show up, it was always to the "left", against the assholes

>>742548090
This guy gets it.

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They could be fascist anarchists for all I care and it doesn't change the fact that I don't own a car

>>742548090
your nonsensical gibberish is so fucking retarded I'm almost certain you typed it by bashing your head into the keyboard. Not a single member of that circle jerk is patriotic in any sense. they want to destroy this country and replace it with a Marxist fantasy land.

>>742548090
>no membership, no hierarchy, no leadership

no one believes you

>>742545510
I know downies that are more logical than antifa.

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>>742548090
Anonymous and antifa are both kids living with their parents who have nothing to contribute to society except for REEEEEEE and cringe

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>>742548492

>>742548415
I'm a patriot. When I want change, I petition my government, I support candidates who share my views. I protest ideas I do not support.

When fascists show up in my town. I bring my camera and get as many pictures of their stupid faces as I can so that they can't hide from their families and communities that they are disgusting people.

>>742545510
>How does giving government absolute power over everything anti-fascist?
>communism
>complete government control

The very virtue of communism is in there BEING NO GOVERNMENT
Equality on all fronts = equality in social position meaning no hierarchies
"true" communism can only be installed in an anarchist society

>>742548262
Keep rollin your eyes bitch. The movements where the big anon dudes emerged from were anti right. Rejecting the right is basically the indoctrination. It takes a long time to learn why the left is fucked.

Still an American.

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>>742548596
Yes, this is completely realistic, a great idea, and has worked out every time it has been tried

>>742548682
>Still an American.
Clearly

>>742548682
At the end of the day anon will realize that freedom is best.

>>742548742
i'm not arguing for communism you fucking dipshit

>>742548596
>equality
>magically enforced

absolutely impossible

>>742548595
I've seen a couple people shunned in the news, lose their jobs and stuff, I think its cool.

>>742545510
LMAO 3 antifa threads on the main page shill much?

>>742548797
Articulate your stance better then

>>742548807
Yes, communism works in theory, but human greed has ruined all real world applications.

>>742548596
The no government utopia part is the carrot on the stick.

It starts with grand theft and tyranny and big surprise ... that's where it stays.

>>742545510
Why is the right so obsessed with this boogieman group?

>>742548852
Wherever Fascists are, Antifa will be there.

>>742549041
you spelled faggot wrong

>>742548981
They thought that liberals were pansies and if they marched with their guns, we'd just hand our girls over to them and watch them fuck em.
When we met them, and demonstrated that we were more than willing and able to stand our ground and push back, they started crying.

>>742548906
I literally have no stance, nor did I claim to have one. I'm telling you that "true" communism is impossible in a societal setting. That being said, OP has a fundamental misunderstanding of what communism and its tenets are, as it is not just "the government doing things". I am entirely aware of the issues of the communist model, which is why I am not a communist. I just don't like conservatives pretending communism is just whatever its worst advocates interpreted it to be

>>742548795
You think antifa shows up because they hate freedom?

>>742548981
Probably because they keep blocking roads, rioting, and looting.

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The state isn't the United States government. The United States government is a tool used by the state.

The state is the Oligarchy that controls the Western press via the Bilderberg Group through the Counsel on Foreign Relations and they consider the United States government a tool to be used to conceal the neo-Aristocracy from the common class.

>>742549106
No, I think the alt-right is against freedom. Its sometimes difficult to articulate which side you are on with such a short response.

>>742549083
Stop deflecting, faggit.

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>>742545510
their new age neo political facist. worst kind of people, sheer ignorance

>>742549121
No they don't? The only time I have ever heard of these evil people is at retarded far right neo nazi events. And even then it's only like 5 people, and the rest get used as propaganda by the right who label them as "antifa" because only extremist liberals oppose white nationalist agendas or something.

>>742546721
It made your dumbass reply

>>742549083
Shut up, fagot

>>742549123
True.

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>>742545510
Sorry I can't hear you over my freedom.

Don't fall for this shit burgers.
We had these idiots for like 80 years now in europe. Since their beginning they were nothing more then usefull idiots for far left partys who use them to shut down speeches of pretty much every party who opposes them, allmost non of these partys are/were fascists.
The name 'Anti Fascists' or antifa is just a cheap trick to make everybody who stands against their bullshit as fascist.

They are pretty mush what the SA was to the NatSocs in germany. Make sure to point that out ofter, nothing makes them more mad.

>>742549157
Ok, I guess we're somewhere on the same level, then. I'm all for leaving the details of politics for later.

>>742549492
>They are pretty mush what the SA was to the NatSocs in germany. Make sure to point that out ofter, nothing makes them more mad.

intellectual dishonesty in action

>>742549492
so, do you like the idea of fascism?

>742548596
Yeah, hierarchies are only a construct that arose from government, and inequalities only happen as a result of governments

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>>742549492
Really? Antifa in germany since the 30's?

I'm calling bullshit.

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>>742549123
>muh shaddow government

There is not such thing as The Bilderberg Group nor the Counsel on Foreign Relations and Alex Jones is just making that crap up cause "muh correlations".
>I don't know therefore I know.

How about developing some actual capacity for critical thinking and discover that neither of those organizations actually exists.

>>742549824
you dumb mother fucker

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion

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ANTIFA IS SO RETARDED
THEIR FLAG IS A FLAG OF TWO FLAGS

>>742549824
This is actually accurate. Antifa organizations have been around as long as Fascist organizations were.
Much of the rest of that post is shit. He's trying to generalize the actions of Antifa to delegitimize future actions.

Just like /b/, who doesn't matter. we are anonymous.
Just like /b/, the content of the post is the only thing that matters.
Judge Antifa by their individual actions.

Congress simply needs to make it illegal to organize in support of enemies of the state, past or present.

>>742545510
Holy fuck you idiots are really going to do it... you're actually going to do it, just stop.

>>742549620
Both are thugs who are lead/herded by a political party to crush oposition.
Both are not able to think for themself.

The SA were the violent plebs of the german nazi party. Antifa are the violent plebs of modern (far) left partys.

>>742550056
Congress should also make it illegal to bring weapons to a protest.

>>742545510
Antifa doesn't exist.

>>742549886
Retarded post, those groups have existed and wielded power since before Alex Jones was in grade school.

You must think Alex Jones has godlike powers

>>742550149
the mythical buildabeargroup

>>742550106
Antifa fought against nazis.

>>742549712

>everybody who does not like our shity movement is a fascist

Thanks for proving my point

>>742550205
You probably think the Democrats and Republicans are just an urban legend

>>742545565
first post best post

The communists antifa worships and slaps their hammer and sickle all over their clothes and shields are far worse than the "nazis" they claim to hate so much.

Antifa is the biggest group of hypocrites and uneducated children in the world. Communism is our true enemy and always has been, yet they embrace it.

>>742550217
I know. They are still violent plebs, just like the SA was.

>>742550479
At the time, communism was a theory. We've learned that human greed made communism fail.

>>742550606
which is why it and its adherents must be eradicated from the face of the earth

>>742550566
When faced with violence, sometimes violence is the only answer.
Wherever Fascists are, Antifa will be there.

>>742550656
doesn't sinking to their level also make you worthy of said eradication?

>>742550323
Why would you oppose a group opposed to fascism if you hate fascism and understand it is evil? That's like hating cancer research group[s.

>>742550707
you can't talk a communist out of being a communist. They only respond to napalm and bullets.

and i wouldn't be advocating for their eradication to better my own position (which is what they do to their citizens), I do it because it will make the world a better place

>>742545510
>government absolute power
But... but... muh God Emperor who never makes a mistake.

>>742550656
Go worry about commies in communist countries.

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>>742550053
>Judge Antifa by their individual actions
Lot of scum evidently

Has there ever been a single case where Antifa has ever defeated a fascist government?

Or do they just succeed in attacking citizens and justifying more fascism?

>>742550679
The same old 'everyone who is against us is a fascist' argument over and over again.
Good job at proving that you are nothing more then braindead usefull idiots mr. redshirt

>>742550865
i don't care as much about other countries, I care that antifa faggots like you are trying to spread it in my country. Communism is a cancer, you can't let it get a foothold otherwise it will become unstoppable and will destroy the country we worked so hard to build.

>>742548742
Works in Norway.

>>742545510
Implying fascism isn't totalitarian?

It's very naive' youngfag in here today.

>>742550984
ever been to norway? enjoy paying like 11 dollars for a beer

>>742550902
On the right

>groups identify as fascist and nazi. Groups being discussed carry nazi flags, regalia, or do salutes
Understandable they are misidentified as nazi's. Kinda like if you wore a police uniform, you know?

>On the left
>no one really identifies as a communist or antifa but the right accuses everyone who is even slightly center right or dare god, left, of being some evil communist sympathizer or the member of an invisible group of ninja terrorists who frame the poor neo nazi's for their actions via false flags

>>742548807
Jesus is magical AND a pro equality communist.

>>742550656
Antifa isn't communist anymore. We are simply anti-fascist.

>>742551079
so why do you paint hte hammer and sickle all over your shit?

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>>742550679
>Wherever Fascists are, Antifa will be there.
Even if they are the only people there

>>742551040
And paying zero for teritiary education and health care?

Either of which offset your expensive beers by a sizable amount.
But you keep thinking expensive beer is the worst possible thing in the universe, champ.

>>742550976
Why do you think being against fascism makes you pro communism? Why do you think everyone is oppossed to democracy in some form? I just recognize fascism is a garbage GARBAGE ideology and alt right faggots love fascism. It's not an argument, they parade it around all the time. Very few leftists I know of give a flying fuck about marx or shit. It's just far right talking points.

It's not a "communism or fascism" choice, retard.

>>742551115
coz it looks cool

>>742550785
cause their (their handlers) defintion of fascists includes everyone who isn't on ther very far left of the political spectrum.

>>742545510
Yes, in fact it's ironic that basically we have literally come to the argument of "Stalin or Hitler" in the most extreme versions of the right and left now, were if your not one or the other your a "Nazi" or "Dirty Commie". Horseshoe theory wins again because people are stupid and simple and believe in false Dichotomies to control their lives, thus the power of "the other".

>>742548596
Then go live into the wild,what you are asking is a free for all deathmatch like in video gamea, the problem is this isn's a video game or a fictional land,IRL you neeed someone to help you with stuff like geting food/water/electricity/anything.
That makes a team of some sorts. Oh.. a team,because your team needs to defend itself you need a lot of people so you recruit who ever you like .
Now there is a lot of pople so you need to controll them,you put some rules about taking food-water /not killing someone from the team etc.
you have a signal to diverse yourself from other people...

So lets sum that up... we have the leaders(you and the guy you originaly teamed up with),the laws,the state ,the anthem etc. What is that?

You need the goverment,which ever it is people need it,even anarchists have leaders am i right? That beats the purpose of anarchisam.
So if anarchism can't work,that means communism can't work

>>742549090
This.

>>742551166
so you're ignorant uneducated morons who don't know history. Got it.

>>742551167
Not really? Their definition includes like, actual fascism.

>>742551115
Uh, I don't.

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because le gobernment can control simple-minded negroes easier xDDDDD

>>742545510
Why is the right for the absolute power of the federal government and extension of the government to the soul of every citizen?

>>742550341
Hur dur. Muh 4D Chess.

>>742550892
Only time they ever fought actual fascists was before ww2 in germany and italy, didn't worked out that well obvs.

>>742545510
Probably b8, that's literally what fascism is, m80.

>>742545510
keeping the dumb stupid

>>742548840
Yep, nothing like deriding a person for beliefs and moving them further into the depths farther and farther away from any hopes of returning, thus changing them from just some random asshole into the next violent martyr. But hey, who gives a shit about cause and effect.

>>742550984
Norway has a government, chief. (and inequalities)

>>742549090
I can't stop keking of the terrorist who kill H. Heyer. Fatty virgin faced is the very stormfag prototype.

>>742551220
Yes their definition of fascism includes actual fascist, it also includes all other kinds of groups who have nothing to do wirh fascism

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>>742549123

Wow, as a mexican, i'm really surprised how leftie the US has become. Truly a shame.

>>742545510
Being American is opposing Nazi's the KKK and white supremacy...arguing in their defense is retarded...

>>742549293
This.

>>742549903
Apples and oranges.

Democracy is 2000 years old. Rebellion is older than that.

You know as well as I do, the movements that people would join for this kind of shit was the Anarchists.

>>742551067
This brings up an interesting point, I have seen videos of Antifa members attacking skinhead faggots with swastikas while among their own group are people who wear the Hammer and Sickle. Pretty hypocritical to attack people for wearing a swastika while bearing the symbol of another of the most evil, murderous incarnations of fascism.

>>742550149
Jews have godlike powers in the delusional mind of "muh bilderberger" conspiranoics.

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>>742550323
So KKK and neo-nazis aren't fascists? Good to know.

>>742550656
Wanting to eradicate the primitive christians from the face of the earth.

>>742550858
This.

>>742551006
This.

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>>742551067
>invisible group of ninja terrorists
Muh Bolderbergir

>>742552395
that

>>742548094
So antifa is retarded?

>>742552395
No idea about the kkk , we don't have that in europe.
'Neo-Nazi' is just another hollow buzzword wich some leftists use for pretty much any political group on the right. Only geoup I'd call neo-nazis is skinhead scum, and I'd be happy if skinheads and antifa would kill each other

>>742548981
Because they preach violence and oppression.
Why, do you think otherwise?

>>742550341
Where is your 4D Chess now fags?

>>742547666
Satanic trips of truth, they are. It was proven back in Berkeley

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>>742545510
yes they are retarded they march for their own destruction. its actually unbelievable how retarded they are

>>742550785
Because its the trick of a smallminded and manipulative. So you dont actually have tot give arguments, of have a honest debate. Just blatenly call everyone with a different opinion fascist.

>>742551730
Get out fucking beaner. I don't need you to defend my side.

>>742545510
I love seeing Americans on each other's throat

>>742553702
where are you from?

>>742553663
make me, faggot.

>>742551730
Vive el Lopez Obrador!

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>>742551730
>2030
>the us economy is near collaps due to communist reforms of 2020
>burgers starving left and right
>mexico builds a border wall to defend against illigal alians from the udsus

>>742554381
nope, this guy is right>>742554366
we will become venezuela 2.0 next year.

>>742549000

>Where antifa goes, it brings fascism with it

ftfy

>>742549886
Damn you're fucking autistic.

Or else you're a leftist shill.

The Bilderburg meeting is reported in the international news every fucking time it happens.

Council on Foreign Relations has a website

These antifa retards are communists. They hate cops but Soviet Russia, and all other communist states were militarized. And they sent people to death if they disagreed with govts opinion. Talk about "giving power to the workers of the workd" LOL. They even cry about how oppressed people are. They haven't seen shit when it comes to commies killing tens of millions

>>742548268
And you're retarded

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>>742549824
Literally google "communist party Germany 1930s" why are you so retarded?

This is all very dangerous to freedom of speech, very counter productive.

>>742556427
also causing division amongst everybody. The ones who are running things are loving this right now.

>>742553118
No, but I have a sixty year highlights reel of cops and national guard beating the shit out of people, with dogs and water cannons, and sometimes actual bullets.

Tell yourself whatever you have to.

>>742556576
its good when they beat lefties, bad when they beat right-wingers. its really that simple.

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>>742553577
>be white
>smash the white man march
what?

>>742556481
Absolutely.
The "red front" here>>742556330 was absolutely a catalyst to Hitler's rise to total power. One of the best things that ever happened to the Nazi party was the Reichstag being burned down

uh you know if some proud boys have to eat some pepper spray to keep the jews in america from getting genocided i think we can make that sacrifice to protect the lives of our citizens

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Remember kids, controlled opposition is a powerful tactic that hidden hands employed for years.

>>742556818
why are you defending the bourgeoisie 1% are you a jew?

>>742556894
commies have always been jew puppets.

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>>742545510

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>>742556661
Its bad when they beat the citizens. Because the people who do the beating eventually have a moment of truth. Its kinda like the civil war, brother against brother. Its really that simple.

When people get paid to beat down a contingent of concerned citizens, things are pretty fucked up.

>>742545510
yup

>>742557529
commies arent citizens, they arent even human.

>>742557948
see
>>742557079
You've been bamboozled by the jew and are furthering their agenda. One step closer to being white = domestic terrorism.

>>742545510
You forgot OP antifa are funded by the rich bankers and financiers who also lobby politicians

>>742545510
>expecting a leftist to have the ability to critically think

>>742558529
if white people are going to act like this:

>>742557948
>>742556924
>>742556894

fuck em, let them get exterminated

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>>742559780
white people will start to stand up for themselves eventually hopefully