Why hasn't science taken religion's place yet? It will

>>742500133
I'm curious as to how that would be forced.

because people are retarded

>>742500133
Cause science is being bought by politicians to lie and now both religious leaders and scientists are lying to people.

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>>742500133
You're right. For instance, overwhelming scientific consensus on climate change has totally united the people. Whether the moon landing actually happened is a good example too.

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>>742500133
This is why

Religion is comforting while science is scary.

>>742500363
Also, GMO's

Because there is literally no way to prove religion wrong. Meanwhile, scientists are generally arrogant intellectuals who care little about actual science and are only concerned with being considered the smartest person in the room. On top of that, political correctness has infiltrated science, as well as major corparations, both of which kill the objectivity that science needs to be successful.

>>742500133
Id support that forcing

>>742500481
there's no way to prove religion right*

>>742500549
You just made me see the gestalt

>>742500481
Science
>question everything, be a skeptic

The scientist
>never question me, everything I say is right, if you question me you're stupid

>>742500133
because science isn't a religion
it's not something you 'beelieve in'

>>742500549
I agree. There's also no way to prove it wrong. Which is why it has survived for so long.

>>742500133

Religion is better for business.

Because science, as great as it is, is made up of scientists, who have become a laughing stock.

Religion is the target in this thread
But the biggest threat is I should know I'm a faggot

When Muslims quit killing innocent people

>>742500895
The biggest threat is us blaming others kek didn't finish

>>742500133
Because science answers the what and the how, but not the why.

Most people leech
Greed
Anti-intellectual approach to capitalism
Yeah

>>742500850
Science is better for business.
> Science told you nukes are real. Took billion from you.
> Science told earth is round and NASA fiction and shit. Took billions from you.
> Science told evolution is real. Projects of billions, might be.
> science told climate change is real. Again, projects of billions from you.
Ergo, religion regulates people's lives except islam and jew fuckers while science is mostly a fiction mixed with jewish usual propaganda like the lolocaust.
Science more dangerous than religion and anything.

>>742501178
> scientologist
Holy shit

>>742501486
> realist, you faggot

>>742500133
Probably because, as any non-retard would tell you, science is the study of the natural world, where religion is a cosmology about a supernatural world, so that they don't actually overlap. Your question is like asking why hasn't math replaced history.

>>742501601
Think about it they combine religion and science
Holy fucking shit

>>742500404
Right, the fact that you will burn in hell for eternity is lovely, where science has given us scary things like the smart phone.

Niggers leave the thread to drown
Be the change you want to see

or lets just convert everyone on this planet to Islam. Problem solved...? or hmm, nah, these retarded monkeys also bomb own people

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>>742501601

Realist? You might be retarded

>>742500400
Crazy when you find out Dolph Lungren has more street credit than Bill Nye.

>>742501877
yeah , thats what they call us now.
What your media told you today !!
We need to welcome migrants and support LGBT. Baldass , stfu and apply some hair oil.

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>>742500204
you just start a movement

>>742500363
it united a lot of countries

>>742500404
lol, good1

>>742500481
I am a scientist and I don't see that problem. Maybe you live in a cancerous environment.

>>742500621
you described an idiot, not a scientist

>>742500668
yes, it is. Even when you say 1+1=2 there is no 100% certainty that's it's true. Actually I bet there is at least 1 person who in that moment is trying to prove it's not true.
Everything we measure is measured with some level of uncertainty.

>>742500871
hm?

>>742501633
science is a way of perceiving the reality, same as religion. They just have different assumptions and some of them are false or can't be proven.

>>742501713
I see you have never been as far as decided to do so... rationalization can be very cold.

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>>742500133
>why don't we force it? It's the only way people can unite

>>742500133
Did you ever watch a tv show where experts discuss a topic? Why are there shows like that?

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>>742502067
science seeks the truth and the truth is the most temping thing that exists. Or at least it should be...

>>742500133

Scientology

The merging of retards with feeling of loss
Merging money with assholes who have money but want your money aswell.

>>742500871
Says the McDonald's worker kek. Put that extra salt on my fries and sit down little boy.

>>742502043
>science is a way of perceiving the reality, same as religion
no
science was originally called natural philosophy, which was better because it helped people understand that science was thinking about and studying nature, which also meant it delimited what scientists were supposed to explain. sadly, it got polluted/diluted, so that now we're supposed to pretend science answers all questions that are meaningful.

>>742502237
That's not what Scientology is retard.

>>742502043
>I see you have never been as far as decided to do so... rationalization can be very cold.
English is not your first language, is it? Either way, try not to fall for the atheist appeal that says if you deny there is a god you are somehow smarter. You aren't.

>>742502034
Implying much? You really are retarded. There is no grand conspiracy, there's just retards like you and morons who eat the same shit in a different wrapper. You should kill yourself now before the FEMA camps come.

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>>742500133
It has.

there are google zombie fanatics out there without a single clue how science or its studies work that quote things they've seen online with as much holy fervor as a 14th century priest would scripture.

that the sad truth about the modern world. the brain-less masses are angry about the old institutions and replace them modern anologs. but there's no difference between saying "God wills it" and "Three sentences from some study someone put on my facebook says so," when you don't understand anything about what was involved in (and who paid for the study) the study.

>Science Damn you.

>Science is Infallible

>It's the Truth. Some dude with a degree was paid alot of money to say so and low and behold he said so.

>"He's been studying the connection between cigarette smoke and cancer for 30 years and hasn't found any conclusive proof. The man's a genius."

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That's why.

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>>742502492

>>742500133
From day 1 religion was obviously bullshit, science only adds a small amount extra proof. The world is getting more religious because of ethnics breeding

>>742502381
>if you deny there is a god you are somehow smarter. You aren't.

Except it's been proven that people who follow a faith are generally less intelligent than people who dont. Nice try, bucko.

>>742502769
Finally, someone who is smarter than everyone in history. Newton invented Calculus and believed in God. You're smarter.

>>742502834
Right, and it's been proven that whites are generally smarter than blacks, but then you compare Trump and Obama and see that generalities don't say anything about individuals.
Also, my yellow lab is an atheist.

>>742500133
Because science allows you to have a better understanding of how the world works while religion generally aims at teaching how to act upon it.
Science can't replace religion simply because they do not fulfill the same goal.

>>742500133
>Why hasn't science taken religion's place yet? It will happen sooner or later so why don't we force it? It's the only way people can unite.
Science is forced. Its taught in schools

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>>742502177
to confront different points of view with no intention to find a communal solution hehehe

>>742502284
human thoughts, imaginations and delusions are a part of nature

>>742502381
I was referring to an old meme. Well I believe you are, because you chose to look for the answers instead of just explaining it with God's will.

>>742502411
it's not science's fault, it's people's fault

>>742502492
say again?

>>742503087
science can do that too. It's called sociology.

>>742500133
>Why hasn't science taken religion's place yet?

Hasn't it? Science is a matter of belief. As if scientists had some kind of divine grace.

They're just whores like everyone else.

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Science = big boom without combustible made the everything = impossible a explosion without combustible
Religion = mistic god made everithing because he can = no contraddiction

>>742503295
>human thoughts, imaginations and delusions are a part of nature
your argument is a randomly-generated claim produced by blind molecular reactions you don't even control, so it's moot

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Op is a super fag

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Nothing could be further from religion than science. Science can't replace faith because it literally is the absence of faith

OP is retarded or mildly good bait

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>>742503295
>>>742502411

No shit. people suck and will twist what ever currently accepted authority to justify their actions.

my point was all the religious sheeple are still religious sheeple they just use science they don't and can't understand instead of a deity they don't and can't understand.

if op if wondering why we aren't all intelligent, rational human beings it is because eugenics has been frowned upon since Hitler. Besides like Aldous Huxley pointed out you can't have a world of just Alphas and Betas.

>>742503270
>science can do that too. It's called sociology.
Sociology is the study of society, it only looks at groups of people and it's purpose is not the development of the individual, looking at what is moral, nor what values should be adopted, nor how an individual can interact and make choices within the world.
Simply because this is not an objective truth.

>>742503813
I stopped watching X-files when instead of his father's murderer the dumb whore bitch Scully shot Mulder and let the murderer escape. I say ' stupid fucking bitch, the fuck is this "
> deleted whole 15+GB of series permanently, peace.

>>742500133
Both are needed. Without religion, postmodernism will prevail and eventually destroy society.

>>742503270
You're mistaking science for the scientific method

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>>742503813
So you've double checked the work of every scientific fact you accept and have redone every experiment to confirm your assumptions?

>No you're taking it on faith just like the religious flocks.

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>>742504251
>So you've double checked the work of every scientific fact you accept and have redone every experiment to confirm your assumptions?
Science isn't assumption. It's literally the absennce of assumption and faith.

Troll better

>>742502898
Calculus isn't that hard

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>>742503535
look at the history of science and history of religion... see the difference?

>>742503392
I meant something else. Scientific evidence should be the ultimate argument, not God's will.

>>742503648
I'm not sure if it's totally random, probably not because we neural signals tend to follow the same paths.

>>742504251
thanks

>>742504171
care to elaborate?

>>742504429
science is revised constantly, but with gaps in time.
therefore at any given moment, any number of 'accepted scientific facts' are on the verge of being modified if not obsoleted.

>>742504496
Morality becomes subjective without a uniform ideal that everyone can conform to without question. This is the role religion serves. When morality becomes about the individual, rather than the group, society collapses. Can be seen in ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, etc.

Therefore, without a solid balance between logic and emotional/moral stability, society will eventually collapse. Oostrmodernists work directly against this, spreading the idea that morality is completely subject; i.e. there is no objective right or wrong

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>>742504711
>therefore at any given moment, any number of 'accepted scientific facts' are on the verge of being modified if not obsoleted.
Absolutely correct. Still doesn't equate to faith or assumption. It equates to believing what's likely to be true as a result of testing, logic and evidence
Religion, in part, equates to believing things without those things.

>>742503974
I think it has been scientifically proven that eugenics don't work.

>>742504019
objective truth can be divided into "infinite" number of subjective truths which are possible to be proven. Thus it is possible to scientifically come up with "golden rules". Or at least I want to believe it can.

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>>742504751
Can't we just agree that the most important thing is expanding the society existence and make it the base for our morality?

>>742505478
No, we can't all agree. That's the problem. Religion gives us a basis for agreement without needing any logic behind it; we do good things simply because God says so.

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>>742505621
why can't we agree? Why can't we do good things because they are good for people? By "good for people" I mean things that are the source of long-lasting happiness.

Religion is to sooth the ignorant by supplying answers for things not understood and regulate behavior of the mentally incompetent, relying on unquestioned authority and faith.
Science is the pursuit of knowledge and understanding through thoughtful examination and experimentation, operating on questioning everything at all levels and dedicated work.
Unfortunately there are types of people uninvolved in science that use it as a faith system due to their ignorance and mental disabilities.

>>742506047
Look at the world. Even people with your mindset can't agree on what exactly that entails.

>>742505275
>objective truth can be divided into "infinite" number of subjective truths which are possible to be proven.
"Subjective truth" is generally something that can't really be proven, which depends on the opinion, so I'm just gonna assume you mixed up objective and subjective because it makes more sense (correct me if I'm wrong).

So first of all, how is that true? Why could you divide any subjective opinion into objective truths (and only objective truths since if one bit of subjectivity remains we still are at our starting point)?
I don't really see why this assumption should be taken as a fact, but well.

>Thus it is possible to scientifically come up with "golden rules".
If it were, we probably would have, or would be getting closer to it. Yet we tend to have regular predominant ideologies and then revolutions to make new ideologies with different rules prevail.
Even by assuming that your first sentence is true, dividing rules/propositions into an infinite number of objective truths is completely useless to the individual or even society. We live in a finite world, with finite lifespans and each individual will acquire a finite knowledge during his life.
This is why we write stuff, this is why we record history and also why stories like the ones found in religious texts since antiquity are told. So that the individual doesn't have to start from scratch. We compile the knowledge that is deemed useful. And different cultures will compile different knowledge.

>Or at least I want to believe it can.
It is your right to believe it, but so far I remain unconvinced.

>>742506173
>implying religion and science are incompatible

You'd think pencil necked weakling nerds would have more respect for religion. An objective ethical system that rewards virtue and punishes wickedness is all that keeps the strong off their necks.

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>>742500133
If science was ever actually right in what it assumes, I'm sure it would have more followers.

>>742506242
yeah, but maybe one day...

>>742506534
yes, I meant subjective truth and I used quotation marks with infinite for a reason. I meant we can divide something objective into as many subjective opinions as many people there are. Correct me if I'm wrong.

>>742502043
>it united a lot of countries
No it didn't.
We've had like 5 climate emergency climate protocols and we half-assed all of them.
Paris isn't gonna be any different.

>>742507274
>I meant we can divide something objective into as many subjective opinions as many people there are.
Hm, then I'm not following at all what you are trying to say.
What would be the point of dividing objective truth into as many subjective opinions?
Do you mean that something objectively true (i.e. a fact) will generate a huge variety of opinions?
If that's the case I don't really see how you end up with golden rules from there... (since there are an infinite amount of facts you just end up with wide potential variety of opinions about every fact, which is closer to chaos than golden rules, but I must be missing something).

>>742500133
Science and religion look for answers to a different set of questions.

Using religion to try and answer scientific questions does not work. We all know that.

But using science to address the questions pertaining to religion is futile. Science cannot even attempt to discover whether there is a God, what His attributes are, what our attitude towards Him should be.

If you see a huge conflict between science and religion, you have an incomplete understanding of on or both.

>>742500133
First amendment
>>742500251
Atheists believe that the universe poofed into existence from literally nothing then exploded for no reason. How is that not retarded?

>>742500133
Because science is amoral and most people are retard. They need religion, otherwise they start fuckin' goats and shit...

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>>742500133
Because science doesn't provide certainty of life after death, and thus it gives nothing for people to believe in.

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>>742507888
hahahahaha, that's what I meant bro. Maybe chaos is the golden rule.

>>742508278
it is a bit retarded but what differs it from religion is the fact that we realize it's not the ultimate truth and it is constantly being improved. God's theory doesn't make sense and people have no intention to improve it, maybe because they would realize they don't need God anymore.

>>742509102
>hahahahaha, that's what I meant bro. Maybe chaos is the golden rule.
But people don't want chaos.
Chaos wears you down, it stresses you as you don't know what to expect nor how to be ready for it.
Religion generally try to give people means of getting out of chaotic situation or even avoid/prevent such situations.

>>742500133
Because not everyone is an edgy faggot who thinks they are the shit for figguring out god doesnt exist.
Grow the fuck up, let people belive what they want to belive, realise the world has more important shit to get on with.

Ok, so here's my (drunk) 2 cents per gallon of vomit.

Science, in the popular sense of the word, typically does not include ethics (Never heard any 'Science in government advocate' mention Descartes, Kant, and others).
Ethics used to be a study on what is 'right', and 'wrong' (Not quite, but for the sake of argument, lets say it is), now 'Ethics' is typically claimed by the 'religious' SJW groud, employing similar tactics as the church.
i.e. 'How dare you disagree with my truth, thy heathen!', 'Damn all non-{Insert-my-religion-here}!'.
Science, in essence, is the process of trying to determine 'truth' (where truth is rigorously defined).
A study of that which is truth solely, has no place in government (I think) as it lacks the moral compass to act on these truths.
E.g. I know people that accept the science behind global warming, but simply do not care, because "that's the next generation's problem, not mine".
These people accept the science, but have a different ethical 'background'. Their reasoning is sound, bu many might object to the ethical implications of such a statement.

Religion, unfortunately, provides an ethical background (i.e. the concept of 'right and wrong') without demanding the believer to think, which is 'easy'... You just have to have faith.
Science does not provide this ethical background, one has to think about every discovery, and place it in context (ideally), this is hard(er) and thus not often exercised.

>>742509517
you sound like my ex girlfriend
ok let me correct what I said on an example - there is a rule that it is not right to kill. There are many opinions about it, some might disagree but you can understand their point of view by justifying it with mental illness or cultural quirk that doesn't apply to the whole Earth.

>>742509102
>constantly being improved

cool, so can I get that cancer cure and laser weapon yet? didn't think so. I'm sorry, but your sacred science advancements just can't get any better. this is it.

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>>742509726
but I believe religion stands in our way to getting on with that shit.

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>>742510217
it's a matter of time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ElNjgZCDpQ
now kill yourself

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>>742509808
cmon guys, there is a science of ethics and morals. Psychology and sociology. It tells you what are the possible outcomes of the situation and what will it mean for people. They tend to avoid saying what is right or wrong because it's subjective but you can easily figure it out, just by asking yourself how will that profit humanity in the long term.

>>742500133
Maybe because science isnt the opposite of religion. Without ethic and moral science will doom us to extinction. If you had basic philosophical education behind you you'd know that.

>>742500133
>science take religion's place

Oh boy i can't wait to go sunday and pray to the mitochrondia

>>742500133
Because people will always want the easy answer

>>742500133
Because humans are sad and need to have someone tell them when they die they go to a nice place in the sky rather than just being asleep in the ground forever

>>742511354
i still haven't been baptized by the newton apple

>>742500133
Have you ever opened a science book in your life faggot? Much less passed a science exam?

>>742511354
haha, that's my favourite organelle too!

>>742500133
our understanding of science is still very primitive

we only began to accept science as a fact about 100 years or so

were still discovering new things every day. still, humans are creatures of habit, they will hold on to religion for centuries to come

>>742500133
Who is this semen demon??

>>742500133

Because science is nothing more than faith in ourselves... so it's just another religion.

>god
>big bang
>same paradox

>>742511756
>>742511985
That moment when you wait for new year and merry pythagoras.

>>742500133
because goverment doens't invest enough in education.

Look ISIS doesn't want schools. Religion doesn't want education either. Trump doesn't want education.

And than their are some dumbfuggs like OP where each hope is lost.

Who are you, Stalin. Who tf cares enough?

Why do people have this strange belief that religion and science contradict each other? Science tells us what the world is and religion tells us how to act in it.

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>>742512851
saying traps aren't gay is fucking stupid but you just punched right trough to the next level of retardation.

>>742500133

Bible is a mashup of stolen and modified stories from other older books.

At least pray to something original...

Also the God lies to men in the very first story - "If you eat this apple, you die." ... "Ok so you won't die but... darnit, gtfo my Eden!"

>>742500133
it fucking has no one asks or questions scientists

look at climate change every cunt belives it

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>>742500133
Because science does not provide the warm fuzzy parental feeling religion does to dumb people who cant become good and moral on their own.

>>742512851

It is not... Big Bang doesn't mean "nothing exploded out of nothing and became everything" AT ALL.

It literally states it does NOT even try to to predict what was before the Big Bang... and the Big Bang is not the explosion of nothing, it's the inflation of Space which took Matter along the ride with it. And inflation theory works roughly with an idea the Big Bang had two steps in quick succession.

People not caring enough to get to know science, that's why it still has deniers. It's so easy to "understand" religion - there's no privacy, someone is always watching me, if I act good, I get praised, if I act bad, I get scolded.