Why do conservatives always complain about liberals getting "triggered",

>>742342316

Because they're all fucking retarded.

>>742342316
Liberals are destroying history. Taking down these monuments will not erase the past.
You know who else destroys history?
ISIS.
Why are you supporting people who literally act like terrorists?

>>742342749
pretty much this

>>742342749
I too, agree with this.

>>742343077
The liberals aren't white washing history. It's still taught in school.
Statues are for honoring people. They're not a teaching instrument.

>>742342316
not sure but its fun getting them to fight eachother.

>>742343418
agreed, but they could have just taken the fucking thing down and put it in a museum.

it's probably my own stupid emotions speaking, but it pissed me off watching these smug faggots pull down a statue and then kick and spit on it as if they accomplished some great act of heroism.

>>742342749
/thread

>>742343418
Explain that to the National Mall. Pretty sure the Memorial is used to teach people, just like any of the other statues can be.

>>742343077
>you know who else hates gays?
>you know who else has extremist ideals centered on xenophobia?
>you know who else etc etc
don't even try there buddy.

Because they are "masters" at projection. If they accuse someone else of just about ANYTHING you can bet your ass they are the real poster children of whatever it is. From the 'cuck' stuff (look at the amount of cuck threads here, that's all the /pol/ fucks) to being 'snowflakes' (look at how sensitive they fucking are to EVERY goddamned THING) they're whole deal is projection.

>>742342749
Yeah this

>>742343704
idk much about it, but whats the value in this statue in particular again?

in my country, the statues commemorate something, which is then a lesson to be taught. we don't really make statues of bad things as a teaching platform

>>742343815
Can you prove Trump hates gays?
>no
Can you prove Trump has xenophobia?
>no
>but but but CNN and Salon and and all the other leftist websites I read said...
I went there. What now, faggot.

>>742343418
>agreed, but they could have just taken the fucking thing down and put it in a museum.

Statues aren't history dipshit. Museums still have historical shit aplenty. The statues aren't historical.

>>742343915
We do because we're not pussies. At least, 2/3rds of the country isn't - the leftists are pretty butthurt about their safe spaces.
National Mall houses the Lincoln Memorial, for one.

>>742342316
Remember that it's also not being triggered when you shit your pants over black people in video games

>>742344028
you were talking about liberals, thus i'm talking about the opposite of liberals. if you choose trump that's fine, but that doesn't negate the argument.

must be embarrassing to lash out retardedly the way you do.

>>742344028
The fuck "proof" would satisfy you? Stop all the "Trump never stomped a gay on live TV so you can't prove etc". His words and actions are clear and no mental gymnastics will change the obvious.

>>742344120
Are you fucking stupid?
>statues aren't historical
>erected in the early 1900s, less than 50 years after the Civil War - people who actually FOUGHT in that war was still alive at that time, and got to see the start of WWI
You are a huge retarded faggot.

>>742344187
can't tell if retarded or not even trying. calling others out for safe spaces, but dont want their shit touched in their safe space. jesus christ you cant teach this, and this is exactly why you're all seen as mentally retarded faggots because everything you try and spew "left this left that" you do on a worse scale. holy fuck this is just amazing to see

>>742344274
Yeah this is the type of moron we are dealing with. You can't win an argument with an idiot or a crazy person.

Only cucks and betas are liberals. Which one of them are you, OP? Don`t hide, you can`t be straight, normal white person.

so since after the civil war we're going to take down statues does that mean. we can take down mosques because of 9/11?

>>742343077
Guess we have to build a statue of Hitler in every city because there's no better way to preserve history. I mean, you don't want to forget about the holocaust and be doomed to repeat it, do you?

I care about the artistry, time, and effort of the artist who created the statues. Is the plan to completely wipe the history books of all "bad" people? Should we destroy every painting that depicts something gruesome or a character whose ideals do not align with ours? In that case, I guess someone will have to raid the Louvre.

I always love how people say the left are pussies. I'm not left or right, but I've never had the left come tell me to go back to my country, but the right definitely has. And i guarentee you, I'll kick anyone's ass who says that to me. (cue keyboard warriors telling me to get out of their country).

>>742344399
You're a goddamned moron. So a 50 year old statue should be put in a museum because it may have been made by people that fought in the civil war... 1865-ish. Wow dude you're young and dumb.

>>742343843

And that's Trump's #1 political tactic. He did it with "fake news" - causing idiots to actually think that real news organizations accurately (if biased) on the shit he's doing is somehow "fake", just to co-opt a term that actually meant fucking fake news, because that's what helped him win the election.

Now he's done it with "alt-left", which isn't a thing, but creates a false equivalence with the alt-right while ignoring the details.

Not sure if troll or just typical lib moron?

Why would people who support the rule of law have a problem with low information retards forming a mob and acting like religious zsalots?

Hint: you are kind of stupid

>>742344703
>Is the plan to completely wipe the history books of all "bad" people?
No, the plan is to put their monuments in museums where they can be seen within their historical context, instead of glorified in public spaces.

>>742344703
We destroyed the shit out of the paintings of Nazis after WWII didn't we? Yes we did.

>>742344789
Hey, this statue built in 1970 is a priceless civil war artifact

It blows my mind watching people who believe in states and local rights ultimately disagreeing with state and local governmental decisions.

whoever is posting the dog shitting shit, I will find you, and I will shit on you... like a wet diahrea shit

>>742344274
I was talking about your parroting of liberal media's bullshit that can't be proven. The continuous fucking ad hominem attacks on Trump - even a fucking CNN editor has said it has been nothing but character assassination pieces on Trump by them AND other media.
I didn't vote for the asshole, I don't particularly like him much since he signed new sanctions that banned some firearms I wanted to buy - but this constant fucking stream of outright lies from cocksuckers like you making unprovable and disgusting claims shows decidedly that it's your side who is infinitely more racist and fascist than anything the orange cheeseball has done.
You want to stop being fucking whiney bitch ass hypocrites that'd be fine by me - but I know you fuckstains on both sides are too fucking immature to act like civilized adults - so carry on being like ISIS. Hopefully you'll all be labeled domestic terrorists and shut the fuck down.

>>742344367
>his words and actions
Please, fucking point out where he's said "I hate faggots" or stripped any fucking civil rights from you, cocksucker.

>>742344913
And we killed she shit out of women and a man in the Salem Witch Trials. If it was done, it must have been right.

>>742345054
For future reference, the Wall and Trump's comments about Mexicans are widely considered to be xenophobic. Remember that for when you're in a conversation with grownups

>>742344437
It's not a safe space, fucktard. It's a part of our nation's history. Just because you're fucking butthurt about something that happened over 150 years ago doesn't mean you cunts get to decide to erase it.
Go fuck yourself with a sandpaper dildo.

>>742344843
It's the conservatives that started the protests when they heard their statues were getting torn down. Get your facts straight.

>>742343418
You honor your adversaries for the bravery they showed in the face of adversity. Not because they're heroes, because they became a symbol themselves.
You see the statues as "symbols of hate" even though the depicted lost as did their ideals.
To those of us not trying to virtue signal they are stoic reminders of what we are capable of. How strongly people hold their convictions.
Liberals see it as a war over slavery. The reality is that it was a war of ideals. Slavery certainly was apart of it. But it was far from the sole cause. Not everyone that fought had a stake in slavery. The majority of soldiers had not and never would own slaves. Just like the majority of the north would never own any luxury items.
The war was fought over how much control our government should have over the people. Should our government have the right to dictate what is and isn't moral. Now we see slavery as immoral, but that wasn't the case then.
Imagine if suddenly you were told to release your pets because it imorral to keep animals prisoner for personal pleasure. I imagine you would think that's a pretty dumb law that the government was forcing on you. People a hundred years in the future might go "man what savages forcing animals to entertain them." but you in the moment might feel wronged. Might feel your government is over stepping it boundries. Dictating how you should live your life.
That's why the war was fought.
That's why we keep statues. Reminders what can happen when you infringe upon someone's precieved freedoms.
A reminder that your reasoning better be damn good. Because people WILL die.
>sorry about the shirty writing I've been drinking for awhile

(you)

fuck im sick of these spammers trying to suppress open discussion. where the fuck are the mods?

lol fight faggots, fight!

>>742344610
Mosques weren't erected in honor of 9/11 so your argument makes no sense. Dumb ass. If there had been a statue of Hussein erected after 9/11 then the answer would be yea, take it down. But patriots in this day and age tend not to memorialize losers or terrorists

>>742344512
Says the fucking retard that can't see you're the same as a goddamn sandnigger who destroys historical pieces.
Fuck back off to Mom's basement and jack off to your furry porn, fucking virgin loser.

>>742343077

Except liberals aren't sending Confederate statues off to the furnace.

Mitch Landrieu, the current mayor of New Orleans, said all of the memorials he was ordering removed were being sent to storage facilities. According to Landrieu, they'd eventually be released to museums, once the controversy boiled over.

fragile white males shitting themselves and getting triggered whenever they get reminded that women and minorities exist and people don't have to cater to them.

it's ironic

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>>742342316
>being offended by the removal of monuments to a huge part of your countries history is the same as being offended by someone forgetting your bullshit made up pronouns

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>>742345373
yes.

>>742344610
We have Holocaust museums here, cunt.
I wouldn't let them be torn down by neo-Nazis since I'm not a hypocritical bag of dicks like you.

>>742344724
Go back to your country sandnigger.
Clinton 2020

>>742345440
No, it was about slavery. The only nuance you can really inject here is the southern economy was based on slavery and banning it would really fuck them over.

>>742344789
It's was over 100 years old.
You fucking moron - learn to fucking count.

>>742345342
Yours and the other little butthurt bitches feelings don't get to dictate what he meant - the wall was to stop all illegal immigration coming from the southern end of the US - not just Mexico, but all of South America and any other foreign nationals who use it as a point of entry.
It was to be a secured border for all non citizen entry.
You'd think as "grown up" as you're alluding to be you'd understand this. Guess even Down's kids become adults someday.

>>742345547

The ones they just took down in Baltimore will supposedly be destroyed. Which is the first time in this whole debacle that I've felt a percent of a percent of agreement with redneck 'muh heritage' retards. Of course, even then I'd only actually disagree with that course if action if the artifacts being destroyed have any significant historical value.

>>742345547
That statue this week was destroyed.
I have zero problem with them being moved to museums - they are historical representations that help us learn from our past. Kids today need to learn why it was bad, and these help teach it.
I have a huge fucking problem with them being destroyed by cunts who run around calling other people facists yet act like facists themselves.

>>742346455

Oh yeah - that's fucked up.

I generally tilt towards liberal, but I don't have any strong feelings on the 'Confederate statues' issue.

on one side they're upset about things they made up, usually within the last 5 years.
on the other side they're defacing a piece of history from our country that was very important

>>742346642
Maybe if instead of a war hero memorial it had a plaque saying "Robert E. Lee: Naughty boy"

>>742346642
Y'know, the guy who commissioned the statue in the first place was a big philanthropist, and apparently a pretty decent humanitarian. He made it big, donated a ton of endowments, to the point that his later years, people wondered how he got by on what he left to his self.

I honestly don't think he would appreciate the violence around something that was kind of "in vogue" at the time. With a crystal ball, no way would he have erected the park and statue.

>>742343077
but didn't the conservative side technically commit an actual terrorist act

>>742347456
The excuse is that he "feared for his life", but it really doesn't look like that in the footage

>>742347325
He would have likely done it and put it in or created a museum for it as a way to help teach the new generations to guide them away from that road we had been on.

>>742347456
Both sides have according to the definitions of terrorism as defined by the Patriot Act.
All the looting, rioting, arson, and assaults all constitute terrorist acts because they are attempting to coerce citizenry and governments by said acts.
There is no innocent side in this fight.

>>742346695

I'm definitely in liberal territory myself, but I'm also a lover of history - and firm believer in the extremity of it's importance - and I consider the willful destruction of historical artifacts to be a crime against all humanity. The burning of the Mayan codexes by the Spanish, the destruction of art and relics by the Nazis, the Maoist Cultural Revolution, the devastation of the ruins of Nimrud and other sites in the crafle of civilization at the hands of ISIS- all among the greatest tragedies in the human story.

Many of the statues that we dig up out of the ground today and cherish as so important are of men and women who were just as shitty and cruel in their own time as the Confederates. And yet we're able to recognize the importance of these artifacts while still disagreeing with what those people did. We should be able to do the same here in the US.

Once again though, that's only if said artifact is of any historical relevence. A statue isn't automatically historic just because it depicts a historic figure. Especially when it was put up a hundred years after that person lived for the express intent of intimidating a demographic fighting for basic civil rights.

>>742347870
Yeah, maybe. I read that he commissioned the statue because the artist was practicing a study on Lee and he liked the sculptor. I think the Lee itself was kinda secondary. And it doesn't take a genius to see the location being named Lee Park, due to the placement of the statue.

Bottom line is, it was left to the city, and the city council has decided to (not erase) but modify a point of local contention. Because it has become a liability more than it is worth in historical value. The people pay taxes on it, cops are people employed by the city, etc etc.

And before you yell at me, I don't have a problem with the statue. But if I was on city council, I would probably have the perspective I outlined above.

And again, I find it amusing that people who believe in state and local rights are pissed at local governmental decisions.

>>742348710
Once again - don't mine it being removed if it was going to a museum. Got a big problem with them being destroyed because they don't like what period it stood for.
They'd lose their fucking minds if someone destroyed a King statue or memorial - it is that type of hypocrisy I'm talking about.

>>742345507
Are you against tearing down sadam's statue?

Could have moved it to a museum.

What about the berlin wall?

>>742343077
Isn't destroying grave sites, remembrance memorials, and oh... I don't know... running down people... isn't THAT all a bit like ISIS? Oh but it doesn't fit conservative "message" <<-- whatever the hell that may be...

It not hard to see the "liberal vs conservfag" argument is a disguise to continue domestic terrorism.

>>742348710
>And again, I find it amusing that people who believe in state and local rights are pissed at local governmental decisions.

States-rights types tend to be mouth-breathers but what you said makes no fucking sense. You're saying that because people support a style of government they should automatically support everything that government does? Does that mean that people who support a stronger federal government should never oppose what the president or US congress does? Why the fuck would we even have a democracy in that case.

>>742349081
I was against Saddam's statue being destroyed, it should have gone to a museum as a reminder to future generations about how cruel a dictator he was and how never to let that happen to their country again - parts of the Berlin Wall is in museums worldwide.

>>742349170
Liberals are guilty of committing acts of domestic terrorism as well.
Where is your outrage over that?

>>742349477
Name seven.

>>742348193
True that but it doesn't help when one side literally makes a martyr out of a member of the other side.
Any semblence of fault on both sides has now been pretty much destroyed by that idiot in the dodge.

>>742349658
Points!!

>>742348930
I get it. And I agree. But heres a minor sidenote- my kid is a legitimate artist. Not that she's been "found", or recognized. But she's good. And you always have to bear in mind what the artist would think, not the admirers. I think, if a piece my kid created caused this kind of bullshit, she'd probably bulldoze the fucker herself. When people project their own bullshit all over a piece and it creates violence, most artists would dislike blood to be shed over their piece.

>>742343077
You are a triggered snowflake....

>>742342316
Because when liberals get buttmad it's because somebody offended muh fee fees and when conservatives get mad it's because someone is destroying their history. Big difference.

>>742344028
Greentexted wrong like a newfag

>>742343632
That was a result of the death involved days before...the plan has always been to remove the statues and preserve them...until the KKK, Nazis and alt right started up...now people are injured and dead and statues are being forcefully destroyed

>>742343915
Think of it like this. At the time they were made they were meant to commemorate great generals, however now those same great generals are considered racist nazis by some. It serves as a monument of history and a reminder to not repeat history and act like they did. It'd be like knocking down the pyramids because they were built using slave labor.

>>742343077
i hope you're not claiming to be a republican bc you're as anti american as you can get. there are fucking americans having a vigil for that lady who died. go troll an ariane grande thread sissy nazi

>>742344028
Can't teach a total retard to learn anything new so go there all you want, you are never going to learn anyway....

>>742349628
Ferguson riots, Dallas cop killings, Berkeley riots, Los Angeles riots, Charlottesville, Philadelphia, D.C., Harrisburg, Portland - these are just some that BLM or Antifa members have assaulted citizenry, law enforcement and committed multiple instances of arson or destruction of public or private property in the name of their ideologies in order to sway citizenry and government to cave to their demands - that is the very definition of terrorism in the Patriot bill.

>>742343418
you fucking american's think our gov't is whitewashing shit when you don't even look at a foreign newspaper ever.

we whitewashed the wetback progam, well until god emperor got elected

>>742350033
Not hardly, sport. Someone calling me a faggot or nigger does nothing to my calm. It's just words, princess.

>>742344187
nazi thinks 2/3rds of the country is with him

>>742344187
Funny...by your math that 2/3rds covers the people who dislike Trump, not his 1/3 and shrinking supporters...pussy

>>742350341
I found it disgusting that her mother would use her dead body as a political platform like she did. Corpse wasn't even cold and buried yet, and here she was using her as a political puppet.
Get fucked subhuman trash.

>>742343418
So we should go tear down all the Lenin statues in America too?

>>742350283
fucking nazi would compare his confederate statue to the pyramids, it's ore comparable to a fucking load of shit that you forgot to flush. nazi

>>742350516
Says the window licking monkey who can't offer one fucking tiny bit of proof of any of that bullshit that falls out your reamed out assholes.

>>742344566
And you Trumptards do nothing but discriminate, lie and project...

>>742349356
>You're saying that because people support a style of government they should automatically support everything that government does? Does that mean that people who support a stronger federal government should never oppose what the president or US congress does? Why the fuck would we even have a democracy in that case.
Isn't that how planned parenthood is working out? Local influences pushing the agenda uphill?

People vote for a local government. The local government decides a local piece is disruptive. They take it away. They don't want assholes coming from a dozen states to start carrying torches in circles and it becoming a touchstone for Klan rallies. Turns out to be kind of prophetic on the part of the local council, don't you think?

Towns, especially college towns, don't want Klan rallies. Its bad for business. If this was going down at the University 10 miles from here, I'm sure attendance would be down next year. And we make a lot of money from the University being in town. They hold a lot of sway. The Klan showing up doesn't bring a ton of money to town.

>>742350524
only david duke uses antifa an BLM together in the same sentence. sissy ass nazi

>>742350283
>pyramids
>built using slave labor

Back to history class, anon.

>>742342316
These are not conservatives. It is the National Socialist Workers Party, the Nazis. They are basically white niggers.

>>742350686
Only 26% identify as democrats anymore - largest class is independents - most of us are tired of both sides shit.
Go fuck off and suicide already for red and blue supporters.

>>742350752
the outpouring of support helped her cope

>>742344602
Mosques are a place of religious worship, those statues are nothing but confederate circle jerk stations....

>>742350826
photoshop, blog and troll

>>742350267
Why did the "KKK, Nazis and alt right started up" happen though? Thats right, because leftist extremists were allready braking monuments.

>wat r cause and effect

>>742350993
god emperor empowered the nazis

>>742345054
Seriously...the media does not have to do anything to make Trump look like an asshole, he does it all himself

>>742350993
Isn't that the same reason people from the left use for the creation of ISIS. That it happened because of American foreign intervention. I really don't know why you hate the left so much. You have so much in common.

>>742350863
And yet you can't dispute the fact both these leftist organizations are guilty of domestic terrorism.
Even the Department of Justice thinks so.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/us/politics/justice-department-trump-dreamhost-protests.html?referer=
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-15/doj-demands-13-million-ip-addresses-visitors-antifa-website-used-coordinate-riots-0

>>742350936
You can cope without using her death as a political pulpit.

>>742345373
It's not part of OUR nations history, WE weren't confederate traitors and those statues should NEVER have gone up....

>>742350650
and we believe you, too

>>742351272
If you live in the US it is, if you don't your opinion means jack shit.

>>742350524
>that is the very definition of terrorism in the Patriot bill.
Are we gonna include the car guy in Terrorism? And why did the Columbus kid not get terrorism? He got whacked with hate crimes, not terror.

Because they're white supremacists, maybe?

>>742351188
you know zerohedge is a fucking tabloid right? fucking american not knowing what's real and what's fake is what got us in this mess. do you think paris hilton had an alien baby too?

>>742344090
That's a cute dog

>>742351258
it's not political to stand up against fucking nazis. i havne't heard what she said, i've only seen here up there on a podium

>>742345507
Your the same as the sandnigger that celebrates death to Americans by vehicular manslaughter and runs around with rifles and torches threatening to burn and kill people....American ISIS

>>742351378
White nationalists should if they are committing crimes with the intent to harass or change citizenry or government viewpoints.
If they are killing someone for their skin color without that intent, then it's a hate crime and civil rights violation.
It's all about intent.

>>742342316
still laughing about that tiki thing.
i can hear hitlers remains roll in their makeshift grave under some sidestreet in berlin.

>>742343077
>destroying history
Bullshit. The vast majority of confederate monuments were built in the 1920s by angry white guys because jim crow laws were ending and blacks were getting more rights. They aren't monuments to the civil war, they're monuments to the insecurity of the white race. They should be put into a museum not to preserve civil war history (bc it isn't) but to study white rage.

>>742351524
Actually you are the American ISIS - what's next, killing Christians too?
How about burning down museums because they hurt your feefees too.

>>742350863
BLM marches routinely chant cop-killing slogans. And they wear shirts that say "Assata taught me" referring to convicted cop killer Chesimard.

>>742351549
They were built between 1865 and 1920s*
Fix'd it for you, faggot.

>>742351549
Found the modern racist.

>>742351621
nazi

>>742351486
Unless they were serving under Hitler, they aren't Nazis you dumb fuck.
Neo-Nazis yeah - but guess what, Hitler would have gassed those degenerates too.
And you.

>>742351674
You didn't.
>>742351692
Nigger.

>>742351710
fascist sandnigger

>>742351654
what the fuck does blm have to do with antifa? that was the point. only a confused sissy nazi would do that

>>742351788
Nigger

>>742351783
house nigger, field nigger. same shit to me.

>>742351826
BLM and Antifa come from the same pile of steaming shit and hate.
You're fucking retarded if you don't see you're all niggers, nigger.

>>742351926
You'd have gotten along with the KKK - you sure you're not wearing your best white hood right now?

>>742351823
you defelct the terrorism of a guy who took a fucking car that ran it into a fucking crowd just like isis, with a monument and i'm the sand nigger. you're confused sissy nazi

>>742351927
>only david duke uses blm and antifa in the same sentence

>>742351997
white american killed bruce lee for the same fuckign reason, he was dating a white woman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM7lw0Ovzq0

>>742344820
show proof that Russia "hacked" the election then and get back to me

>>742351529
>White nationalists should if they are committing crimes with the intent to harass or change citizenry or government viewpoints.
>If they are killing someone for their skin color without that intent, then it's a hate crime and civil rights violation.
>It's all about intent.
I think car nazi and haircut nazi both fit that definition.

Car nazi wanted to kill and intimidate counter-demonstration people at a political rally.

Haircut nazi in Charelston wanted to create a race war. His words.

Thats both terror. So, I guess its needle time.

>>742351826
You faggots are all intersectional, or haven't you heard?

>>742352172
you still want proof for grizzly steep, go suck herring boris. this is why america will not win a war under trump. putins a homo

>>742351783
If they self-identify as Nazis, who are you to say they aren't?

Its 2017. You have the right to self-identify as a nazi. And don't ever let them tell you otherwise.

>>742352339
hahaha. i'm the inbred. is that what you said? god emperor supports the klan so they can get rid of his jew son in law

>>742352537
No, I said you were a faggot