>Guy wants to kill himself >You tell him not to >He

Well that's an innacurate description of the situation if ever i saw one.

Poor queen baby, that faggot messed her up. I guess she was to young to know how of a faggot he was.

>>741864933
you a lawyer? you coulda saved her!!! she woulda sucky sucky yo dick.

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>>741865223

land of the ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''free'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' can't even kill yourself lol, have to stop someone trying to kill themself

worst country in the history of man

>>741864933
>You keep shitposting the same retarded shit.

Defend this.

>>741866011
That isn't a thing. You're an idiot.

>>741864933
>guy is depressed
>instead of trying to get help you tell him to kill himself
>he keeps hesitating
>you keep encouraging him for social media likes
>he does it
>you play victim for social media likes
FTFY

>>741864933
>GET BACK IN THE CAR
ok OP, defend this

>>741864933
actually it was like this
>Guy wants to kill himself
>You tell him to
>He backs out at last second
>You tell him to go through with it
>You get put on trial for involuntary manslaughter

>>741866094
She told him to get help, he refused.

>>741866109
Nothing wrong with telling someone to kill themselves. Kill yourself.

>>741866115
Exactly, makes no sense, involuntary manslaughter is when you cause someone's death, he caused his own death.

>>741864991
That is exactly what happened.

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Defen this.

>>741866413
Its on thing to tell someone to kill yourself, but its another to manipulate them into doing so, you fucking edgelord

>>741866376
Then berated him to get back inside a truck filled with carbon monoxide after he got out and said he changed his mind

>>741866011
Your man boobed ass should go live in Iraq then. I'm sure you'll be able to sit on the internet all day there. Faggot

>>741866413
Not the point of the case.

>itt: idiots being idiots because they're idiots

>>741866636
She didn't manipulate him. She just told him to kill himself like he kept saying he wanted to do. If anything she was manipulated by him, from wanting him to live to agreeing with him about his death.

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>>741866508

You should kill yourself as well if you think that

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>>741866810
Anotha one

>>741866766
You're retarded

>>741866677
You don't know if she "berated" him. Pretty sure there's no record of what she actually said to him, she just told her friend that she told him to get back in the car. So all she did was tell him to kill himself.

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>>741866766

Hey retard, how are? Take a look at these as well

>>741866810
>>741866819

Casey Anthony is still my hero. But fuck that weak-minded faggot, killing yourself because of a teenage girl. Bet he browsed /b/

>>741866881
Kill yourself

americans imprison more people than anyone

>>741866907
Lol

>>741866810
>>741866819
>>741866906
Nothing wrong there. She told him to kill himself like he kept bothering her about for months. He liked that talk, hence why he didn't block her. She also told him one time, if he didn't want to do it anymore that she would get him help. He chose the kill himself option because that's just what he wanted to do.

>>741864933

1. This thread is bait.
2. Bitch is despicable.
3. This case, and the others with people "forcing" others to commit suicide are proof that justice is just a media show.
4. SAGE

>>741864933
Do we REALLY need this same shitty thread a billion times a day?
Getting pretty fucking bored of it now.

>>741866936
Yes that is what she is going to jail for if she loses the appeal. Telling someone to kill themselves. Makes no sense.

>>741866906
This faggot was pussy-whipped to the extreme by a cunt that looks like gollum.

>>741867121
How is she despicable for agreeing with the guys desire to die?

>>741864933
Thats what i call a Lucky dude. He not only ends his suffering but also makes suffer a blonde self entitled bitch... I'm kind of proud. i hope my suicide also make suffer as many women as possible

>>741867307

Thank God I'm not murrican, thats why you dont understand.

You dont say to anyone to kill themself. But even if you do it, you CAN'T be charged with murder, if the guy did it for real.

Only if the guy is idiot it could be a crime, but if the case, they should be chargin parents or whoever is renponsible for him.

>>741866115
Honestly, I don't lurk here much, could someone get me up the speed, who is this bitch and what's the story?

>>741864933
Is this the AFS bitch from the game of thrones?

>>741867929
Guy (18) wanted to kill himself. Had tried multiple times before. Kept texting this girl (17) on psyche meds about how much he wanted to do it. She tells him to get help, see the psychiatrist she went to etc.. He refuses. He actually tries to get the girl to kill herself with him. After months of him telling her death is the only way for him to be happy. She tells him to kill himself. He does it, she goes to jail.

>>741867774
Nothing wrong with telling someone to kill themselves.

only truth I've seen them hold

>>741864933
>misrepresenting everything
well, you can make anything sound reasonable if you change the facts.

>>741868129
yeah, could you give some names or links or something?

>>741864933
It wasnt "ok fine do it or shut up about it".
It was "hey kill yourself, please kill yourself, remember what we talked about? Are you gonna do it yet? Yeah yeah my day was good anyways when are you gonna finally do it? Do it today, like right now. Huh? Your having second thoughts? FUCK THAT SHIT I WANT THE ATTENTION AND PITY THAT COMES FROM YOUR DEATH."

Then, knowing he was dead in his truck, she texted his family acting as if she was worried about him asking if they had seen him.

I'd love to fuck her. I bet she would be fucking ruthless, the little evil cunt. I'd destroy her.

>>741868201
There are no changed facts there.

>>741868222
do you not know how to use google moron?

Ya'll faggots posting in a troll thread

>>741868407
ok thanks douchebag

>>741868453
YOU'RE THE FAGGOT FAGGOT

>>741868228
So she told him to do it. After originally telling him not to. So basically it was "ok fine do it". And she didn't want attention, she told him to because he spent months telling her it was the only way for him to be happy. She texted her friend "I couldn't have him go on living how he was living anymore." She told his family that so she wouldn't get in trouble.

Did he died?

>>741864933
I was against her but having read the full version now I can't defend her going to jail

She was on Prozac since she was 14 and had being put on Celexa, a worse med, just before his suicide.

FUCK NORMIES

>>741864933
A total fucking misrepresentation of what happend. He hid attempt before, pussied out both times. He is with her, she tells him not too and this goes on for a while. Eventually she twlls him to do it. On a daily basis over a long period of time she tries to convince him, starting convosations by asking if hes gonna do it yet. Repeadiptly tells his to do it, stop being a pussy etc. Then bugs him until he gets it all ready. Half way through, he exists the vehicle and says he cant beacuse of his family etc. He activily decided to not do it. She procceds then to degrade him on the phone and shout at him to get back in the car and kill himself ... so he does beacuse she told him too.

>>741868453
FUCK YOU FUCKING FAILED NORMIE

>>741867112
No somthing is wrong here. Her moral compass. People like that are a plague and shouldnt be tolerated. We as a society need to start standing up against the crime, the filth, and the obnoxious hateful bullies that plague our society and jeapordize our (any persons) well being. We as a people need to stand up together against such and send the message "we will not tolerate this and you will dealt with". Because our "representatives" arnt doing shit about it.

>>741869104
There is no misrepresentation there. And he didn't pussy out both times in previous attempts. He ODed, and a girl had to call the ambulance for him. We have no idea if she degraded him on the phone, all we know is she told him to get back in. He got back in because he wanted to die.

>>741868612
If that is true she shouldn't have taken part in the removal of a tax payer. The government tends to not like when you take money away from them and that is all we are in their eyes(at least the legal citizens, illegals are just potential voters).

>>741869315
She wasn't a bully. The kid probably had actual bullies which is why he wanted to kill himself but she wasn't one of them. She told him to kill himself because he spent months telling her it was the only way for him to be happy. She committed no crime, nor is obnoxious, filth, obnoxious or a bully. Thats what he was, he was trying to get her to kill herself with him.

>>741869399
He removed himself.

>>741869673
If they could punish him they would.

>>741864933
What a weak boy, a couple of bullies and an apathetic female acquaintance.
Both of them did not were not strong enough to defend their own self esteem hence she should die and be removed from such society. Survival of the fittest at best.

>>741864933
Shitty explanation of the situation but this case did set a bad precedent for future cases that blurr the lines between words and action

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>>741869603
She tried to aid him into suicide because that is the only way to deal to his bullies.
What a joke of a Millennials.
>what happened to self esteem?
>what happened to stabbing them with a knife
>what happened to AnHero school shootout?

>>741870180
>what happened to AnHero school shootout?
t h i s

>>741869399
>she shouldn't have taken part in the removal of a tax payer
kek

Just send her to jail for life
She fucked up.

>>741868612
"So she wouldnt get in trouble".

I thought she did nothing wrong... Shot yourself in the foot there buddy.

You should see >>741869315
Because people like you need an overhaul.

>>741870180
he gets it.

>>741869938
>Both of them did not were not strong enough

What the hell are you trying to say

>>741868612
"So basically"

Theres nothing basic when mal intent is involved.

>>741870391
She didn't do anything wrong. But she thought other people might think she did something wrong. If you save someone from an arranged marriage, you're gonna lie about it, but you don't think you did anything wrong, you just think other people will think you did something wrong. Like here.

>>741864933
more like
>guy is depressed
>you tell him to kill himself several dozen times
>he starts, then reconsiders
>you tell him to get back in there and finish it
>keep berating him as hard and through as many channels as you have access to
>he finally does it to escape you
Life's hard when you have to live with facts instead of your desired personal narrative.

>>741870515
What are you saying. The point was she basically said "ok fine do it", just like in the OP. It's a summarized version.

>>741870601
>keep berating him

Why do people keep saying this when they have no idea what she said on the phone to him? The only thing we know is she told him to get back in because she told her friend she told him that. What happened, she tells him to kill himself, and he does it because he wanted to die. And if he didn't want to die, he wouldn't have done it. She committed no crime and nothing bad happened since he wanted his death and did it himself.

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>>741870601
This is retarded. He was suicidal for 2 years, and she talked him out of it the whole time. Finally, she broke after being plagued by this faggot's constant "I want to die" talk and told him to do it.

This "innocent" boy tried to get her to join him in a lovers' suicide. Fuck that loser.

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>>741870449
It's a typo, *FIXED
>Both of them were not strong enough

>>741870274
>>741870430
In my country we couldn't own firearms nor possession of Knife but only to a reasonable submission to administration,
If it were me I could had stabbed them in school with my dagger or find connections to buy cheap pistol used for assassinations to settle the differences.

>>741864933
No need to defend this. She had a legal defense team that already tried and failed. The law has spoken. Move on.

>>741871359
Have to wait until the appeal is over to know if they failed. But whether it goes through or not she still committed no crime.

>>741869603
I was talking about people in general who are filth, mentally demented, hateful, no moral compass, no compassion for others, obnoxious, criminals, bullies, narcisists. These types of people are demons crippling other peoples lives and well being. And yes she falls somwhere into that criteria. We need to stand up (covfefe) and take action against the filth and hateful together as a people. We need to make the message clear "we will not tolerate your behavior, and you will be dealt with."

>>741871496
No she doesn't fall anywhere into that criteria. And if you think she helped him kill himself, then she actually helped get rid of someone who did fit that criteria.

One thing she did wrong was that she told him to get back to the car (if that's confirmed), but still she was on meds, and he was bothering her for months.

>>741870550
Just because a person thinks they did nothing wrong doesnt mean they didnt do nothing wrong.

And she knew she was wrong. Thats why she did everything she could to make it seem like she had no part in it. Thats what criminals do. Try to get away with doing somthing wrong.

The law isnt the "end all be all" guide to acceptable behavior. Just because she may or may not have broken the law, doesnt mean she should be off the hook. She was obcessed with the idea and a sort of "fame" stemming from her boyfriend killing himself. She wasnt interested in is well being and happiness. (The messages make this very apparent) She specifically wanted him dead.

>>741872382
so when you are not a criminal then you don't try to show you had nothing to do with the thing?
>(The messages make this very apparent)
yea it shows that he didnt want a help form her, and was just looking for the attention for months so she was over it.

>>741870713
Fine. She basically said "ok just do it, do it, do it, hurry up and do it, dont second guess it in an attempt to find strength and courage and the will to live and to adapt and over come, hurry up and do it."

Fixed it for ya bro.

>>741872382
Trying to hide what you did doesn't mean you think you did anything wrong. It just means you think other people will think what you did was wrong. I just gave you a clear example of that. Another could be if you know your sister isn't taking care of her child well, so you call child services on her and they take the kid away. You might not tell your sister you did it, because she'd be upset with you. But that doesn't mean you think you did anything wrong. The messages make it very clear she was only interested in his happiness. She told him specifically "If this is the only way you're going to be happy, heaven will welcome you with open arms" and she told her friend "I couldn't have him go on living how he was living anymore". Her wanting fame was just what the prosecution said in an attempt to vilify her.

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>>741864933
she obviously used her vast array of mental powers on the poor fuck

>>741871015
she talked him out of it once, to try an appease her "female ego" of innocence

>>741871785
Bait

>>741864991
+1

>>741872717
She told him for months not to kill himself. She was done with that and just said fine do it.

>>741872859
How is that bait.

>>741871069
your talking about murdering?

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>>741864933
>tell someone to rob a bank
>tell them when and how to do it
>they try to pussy out
>re convince them to do it
>he gets caught and they read messages of you orchestrating the robbery
>go to jail for conspiracy
>millions of neckbeards REEEE for your release

dumb cunts these days
suicidal beta males these days

>>741873252
Telling someone to commit a crime is incitement and a crime. Suicide is not a crime.

>>741873311
suicide is illegal

niggas killing themselves what's this say about our culture.. that in a few years in the public's eyes murder will be super justified and almost praised because it will fix the problem. so easily.

>>741873367
oH fUcK

>>741866697
lol patriot redneck is angry

>>741873441
yea they take your body to jail

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>>741873367

>>741872939
Dude your opinion is the extreme minority. Your just incorrect on the matter. Rather, you also lack a moral compass. You are similar to her so i can see why your brain is wired to think the way you do. It is wasted effort to try and persuade you that you are wrong. Its time (for society) to wait for you to step out of line yourself, and make you pay for it. Goodbye.

>>741864933
Suicide is murder of the self, she helped commit murder by convincing a depressed victim who couldn't make logical choices and desperately needed therapy.

>>741873482
do I have to share the cell?

>>741873492
>what is state law?

>>741873311
Actually suicide is a crime. Its illegal. The state should have taken this route during the case. She orchestated a crime.

>>741873492
fuck sakes.

>>741873492
>attempted suicide a crime in some states

don't crop google, autist

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>>741872858
Wrong. She tried multiple times. She even suggested that he get mental health care like she was going through for an eating disorder.

>>741873519
When you think about morals, a lot of it is about intent. You have to think about it from her own perspective. You could say she's a bad person if she thought what she was doing was selfish or just sadistic, like your average grade school bully, but she told him to kill himself because he himself spent months telling her death was the only way for him to be happy. So she has a good moral compass. Looking out for what's best for her friend. And from his own words, death was best for him.

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>>741873722

https://youtu.be/n86UEXB0lgQ

>>741873542
No it's not. Murder specifically means killing someone else. You cannot murder yourself. And she didn't help him kill himself, she just told him to do it, he did everything and bought everything for it. He was not a victim of anything, he chose to kill himself. You aren't a victim of anything if you want what came to you. And he made his decision. Just because you don't like his decision doesn't mean it wasn't "logical".

>>741873652
Suicide is legal in every state.

>>741873679
No it's not a crime anywhere in the US.

>>741874009
Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

>>741867495
I agree with you, I'm glad this bitch has to suffer too. Prison may only be for a little over a year but she will have to live with this shit for the rest of her life. Dude got it easy

>>741874136
Lol, can you imagine failing at suicide and then getting arrested and thrown in jail?

>>741873722
She wasn't in one of them.

>>741874180
wtf

>>741874193
a year in prison is "only"?

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>>741873808
Stop obvious bait

This reminds me of an episode of Law and Order where some teen found this 6 year old that was trying to find his family or some shit. He told the kid that his family was on and island across a mile long lake and that the kid should try and swim across and be reunited with them. Anyone else see that episode? If so, was the older kid found guilty?

Fuck that show is so stupid.

>>741866881
>Pretty sure there's no record
kek, you're an idiot mate

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>>741874301
All those texts are from the very end, faggot. She had been telling him don't do it for 2 fucking years. Read about the story, first, before displaying your ignorance.

>>741874224
when it was illegal the family had to pay when someone killed themselves etc.

>>741874301
wow nice, one specific conversation
>Watson we got her!

>>741868540
atleast he's not a lazy fucking moron

lurk moar

>>741874378
You're the idiot. There's no record of what she said on the phone to him. The only evidence that she told him to get back in the car, is the text message she sent to her friend where she said that she told him to get back in.

>>741874224
yes. if you were in debt a couple hundred thousand dollars and you were trying to skip out on paying it, you're basically stealing it and should be put in jail.

>>741874269
You quote Star Wars when you don't know Star Wars?

>>741874301
You obviously know nothing about the case.

this is a form of free speech and is therefore okay.

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>>741874525
>thinks debtor's prisons are still a thing

>>741874316
the younger kid lives in atlantis now and the older kid got a trophy for helping

>>741873808
Give me your mothers phone number or face book page. I will wue her over and gain her love and trust. Then i will flip the script on her and become neglectful and emotionally distant while i somtimes (rarely) exhibit a bit of affection and "love". This will put her in a state of emotional distress and vulnerability. She will long for my attention and approval. She will do anything just to feel and to know in heart i care for her. Then i will convice her to give me every single dollar she has. Sign her house and posessions into my name only. Ill then get her to develop an addiction to methampetamine. Then ill leave her. Strait up dump her ass and leave her with nothing but a broken spirit and facial scabs.

If i did this... (Not breaking any law)... Would you be upset with me? Yes you would. Because thats messed up and wrong for somone to do.

>>741874525
You won't get the money back if they're in jail.

>>741874638
>thinks "cant pay back" is the same exact thing as "definitely will not pay back"

you aren't too bright, anon

>>741873959
No, if she had a good moral compass the content of the text messages would read entirly diffrent.

>>741874565
so ben kenobi was just always a bitch.

>>741874843
That makes no difference whatsoever, you dumb fuck.

>>741874680
How is any of that similar to that case?

>>741874702
he can leave jail and re-attempt to kill himself once he has proven that he has literally nothing left to liquidate and repay the money he owes me

>>741874999
*this case

>>741875016
You can kill yourself in jail too you know. That football player murderer just did it recently.

>>741874103
She helped (with all her might) to place his mind in a frame to which he would actually kill himself. He only did it because he thought she might actually care once he was gone. Nope.

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>>741874680
Idiot, we're not talking about whether a family member would be upset. We're talking about whether something should be illegal. And you are ignoring the long history of this case and focusing only on the last few days.

Plus, my mom is over 70 and a lot smarter than you. You wouldn't stand a chance.

>>741874937
No they wouldn't. Also, if you want bad people to die, why aren't you happy the guy is dead and thankful for what she did. He was trying to get the girl to kill herself with him just to have someone to die with. He might have been able to convince another girl. He was a bad person.

>>741874991
yes it does, you mongoloid.

If I borrow a million dollars, the loaners are going to expect it back. If I try to kill myself, it is a blatant declaration going against the loan contract. This is saying that I am practically stealing the 1 million dollars.

Theft is a crime, so suicidal faggot can rot in jail.

>>741875225
This.

>>741874301
Exactly.

On another this isnt a laughing matter, but that picture is funny. It should be a a staple in ylyl threads.

>>741875085
i'd imagine they'd put him in the suicide watch unit since he did just try to kill himself, right?

>>741875249
You try to sound like you know what you're talking about, but you're a fucking moron. Ever heard of bankruptcy? They don't send people to jail for not repaying debts. I'm a lawyer, moron. Stop trying to sound smart.

>>741870992
She may not have committed a crime as of yet if it doesn't exist but it will in the future, she's going down. It's simple you do something fucked up it comes back around, they're not holding her on trial for the fun of it.

>>741875118
>He only did it because he thought she might actually care once he was gone. Nope.

Are you projecting or something? Did something similar happen in your own life? I can only imagine that's the case for you to come up with that. He killed himself because he hated his life. He had been suicidal for years and tried to kill himself multiple times before her. Him wanting to die had nothing to do with her.

>>741874391
All my life ive been a self less person always giving and putting others before me. Then one day i convince somone to kill themselves. But its ok, because i was good before.

>>741864933
Bullshit she she egged him on to just do it

it was a last plea for help, she could of called cops, told him not to do it,

she deserves to do every second if not more

>>741875395
>killing yourself and bailing on your debt is the same thing as bankruptcy
>trust me i'm a lawyer

why pretend to be a lawyer if you're this stupid?

>>741875409
The trail is over, only the appeal now before she has to go to jail for 15 months if she loses the appeal. She didn't do anything fucked up so no reason to think she'll do anything fucked up in the future.

>>741875517
Try dealing with some whiny emo teen saying he wants to die and he's going to kill himself in texts for 2 years, one who tries to get you to do it with him, and see if you don't eventually say "Do it faggot!"

Also, she had her own mental health issues.

>>741875531
My god you're an idiot. Both of them result in the debt never being repaid. Neither is a criminal offense. Do 5 minutes of research before looking like an idiot and trying to argue basic law with a real lawyer.

Start with Googling debtor's prison.

>>741864933
https://youtu.be/8EjY9cHyHl4

>>741874999
>>741875166
My point is its wrong. If it wasnt, nobody would be upset over this. But the major majority of people are.

And we werent discussing the legality... We were discussing whether or not it was wrong and of her and questioning her moral compass.

>>741875527
If it was a last plea for help, then why didn't get help when she told him to. It wasn't a plea for help, he just wanted to die and killed himself. You shouldn't be calling the cops when someone chooses what they want to do with their life. She did tell him not to do it originally. She deserves no time because she committed no crime.

Even if you beta cucks believed that two years of trying to convince him to get help is justification for her to start goading him onto killing himself (including listening in and doing nothing when he was actually doing it), suicide hotlines and calling the authorities to take control of the situation was always an option. If she was truly tired of him, she had options to push him off onto someone else who actually is supposed to handle this shit.

>>741875740
>bankruptcy involves liquidating your assets in order to try to pay back your debts
>suicide says you have no intention of paying back your debts
>these are the same exact thing in your mind

you're a literal retard. you're not a lawyer, you're a 12 year old moron. reeee softly into the night please.

>>741875834
How is using a completely different situation, showing how what she did was wrong? That wasn't an analogy at all.

>>741875633
>She didn't do anything fucked up

Hey planet Earth is calling, wake up motherfucker wtf are you talking about?

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>>741875957
>thinks creditors actually get repaid in most bankruptcies
>being this dumb

You're probably too afraid to even search debtor's prisons at this point because you know you'd feel embarrassed over how stupid you sounded so far.

>>741875225
Yes they would have read diffrently. They would have been more compassionate and emotionally engauged on her end. Instead of bitterly cold.

Also i never not once mentioned death to bad people. But people must know that if they jeapordize the cleanliness of society (which is filth as of now. We must take it back) they will suffer concequences.

>>741875931
Who said she was tired of him? If that was the case she would have just blocked him or ignored him. She told him to kill himself because he spent months telling her it was the only way for him to be happy. The point of bringing up her telling him to get help, is to show for one that it was all his idea about wanting to die and that she didn't trick him into it or something, and also to show that she had no ill intent and that everything she did she thought was for the best for him.

>>741876142
>creditors never get paid in bankruptcies
>being this stupid

please kill yourself without fail, you desperate wannabe lawyer.

>>741876143
If by compassionate, you mean not telling him to kill himself. She already did that for months.

>>741875225
He wasnt a bad person. He thought they were in love and both shared an interest in suicide. However only he was in love. So add that to teenage angst and immaturity and you can see the thought of a "romeo and juliet" love suicide together as a viable (but not really) option for them (but him).

>>741864933
>cucks will defend her

>>741876096
She didn't do anything fucked up. She gave her support to a guy who wanted to die. Nothing wrong there. Especially considering she told him not to at first.

>>741876367
>ignores the word "most"
>thinks he's clever

OK, genius, here's a little thought exercise for you. A man gets a credit card and maxes it out. He then writes the credit card company saying he's never paying them back, and he no longer sends them any payments. Can the credit card company press criminal charges against him for refusing to repay the debt?

I'll wait.

>>741869315
You're in the minority, the smart let people chose for themselves.

>>741876367
lel implying that law works the way he want it to work because wishful thinking

>>741876561
yes. that's theft.

idiot.

>>741875474
It may have had to do with other things in his life but she was indeed another reason for his emotionally crippled state of mind.

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>>741876616
No, it's not. And you've just proven that you're a moron.

>>741876464
She never once told him she wanted to commit suicide. And as soon as he made that Romeo and Juliet comment she said "Oh no, we're not dying". He wanted her to kill herself just so he could have someone to die with. He was a bad person. Especially if you think the girl is a bad person for telling him to kill himself. At least she did it because he spent months telling her it was the only way for him to be happy. He just did it so he could have someone to die with.

>>741876605
are you too stupid to read? this is hypothetical on what should happen to attempted suicide survivors.

so yes it's about how i think the law should work, you illiterate newfag. read the thread before talking next time.

>>741876752
>so yes it's about how i think the law should work

No, you were representing it as the way the law does work. Now you're backpedaling because you've been exposed as being completely wrong.

>>741876642
He had attempted to kill himself without her. She had nothing to do with him wanting to commit suicide.

>>741874505
the leaks were here the day it happened.
too bad you're a filthy summernewfag who missed out on the habeebenings when they habeebened.
my guess is you were still in kindergarden eating sand when this shit was actually happening

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>>741876724
the point is that it should be theft. your shitty example doesn't apply to this situation because as long as the guy is still alive the credit card company will have a better chance at getting their money back.

>>741876980
Nice troll.

>>741875648
Still doesnt make it ok. You dont get excused just because you "couldnt take it anymore". But if thats how it played out, it conflicts with your "she loved him and wanted his pain to end" story. Pick one. You have been proved switching up your theories yoyr story as decievers ussually do. she never said "she couldnt take it anymore" because thats not actually what happened. She tried her damn best to get him to do it.

>>741876828
>yes. if you were in debt a couple hundred thousand dollars and you were trying to skip out on paying it, you're basically stealing it and should be put in jail.
>SHOULD

and just like that, we have another illiterate retard. congrats confirming how dumb you are.

>>741877032
it's ok, anon just learn how to read one of these days please? for me?

>>741866677

she berated him because it was just a repeat of all the previous texts they'd had about it before.
He kept pussying out of a think he very explicitly in defined terms and actions stated he wanted to do - to kill himself. He refused help, he made it clear this is what he wanted to do.

This is just my assumption but I bet he just got on her nerves for his lack of a backbone to the point she didn't care anymore, at the very least she could convince him to follow through with something to save his dignity.

She should have called an ambulance, she should have done something else and she probably shouldn't have eaten up the lime light after he did it. But this case isn't NEARLY as black and white as you emotional retards think it is.

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>>741877146
Nice try, but this gem
>>741876616
is where you confirmed that you thought it WAS a crime, not that it should be.

Dumb fuck.

>>741877047
>But if thats how it played out, it conflicts with your "she loved him and wanted his pain to end" story.

Different people saying different things.

She only got 15 months anyway - she deserves that much for her terrible eyebrows.

>>741876061
it wasnt meant to be a direct analogy to her situation. It displays the fact that just because its not illegal doesnt make it right.

If that kid had been your brother or yoyr son you would upset. 1 because hes gone. And 2 because of her cold heartedness toward your loved one and her obcession with wanting him dead.

>>741864933
Depends on evidence.
If there's enough to incriminate her ass, she deserves it.
Otherwise, benefit of the doubt (or actually, trusting her word in which she'll deny biggest offenses) demands she's left with a bitchslap to the face, and the case is scrapped.

Seeing that she got convicted, my bet is there was enough incriminating evidence, that even if we were to assume that during every timeframe we're missing she was saying the exact opposite to what evidence suggests, it would still be insufficient to clear her name.

So yeah. She got what she deserves.

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>>741877354
what lol i was the one who said it should be illegal you moron lol

>claiming other people are me
>surely some sort of brilliant lawyer tactic
>refuses to acknowledge the post proving my point even after i directly quoted it
>a lawyer who can't even read
>mfw

relax idiot you've already lost your case. just read a little better next time. lawyers probably know how to read, so if you want to pretend to be one, just practice reading a little better.

>>741877445
If my adult brother was going around harassing underaged girls with his suicidal thoughts and trying to get the girls to kill themselves with him. I would think he deserves to die. He's done other illegal things and I agree with him being in jail for them. I would feel the same about my son. Anyway she didn't do anything morally wrong either.

>>741864933
shes just a below average white bitch, you neckbeards obsessing over her is fucking pathetic seriously, kys retards

>>741876535
but it's not supporting if you tell a guy to kill himself. If he's mentally unstable you either take action to get them sectioned so they don't hurt themselves and/or the people around them or just get the fuck out of there.

>To help a person you must see the bigger picture of the situation and how you fit into it.

>>741877317
If only the legal system as wise as you, anon!

>>741876418
If she was soo bored with the idea and gave up on trying to help him, why flip the script entirly and try your damnest to get him to do it. She would have like "whatever" instead of "do it, do it, do it, do it."

But you got my point.

>>741877791
It's not about being bored with the idea, it's about him making it extremely clear that death is what's best for him. And so she's not going to try to convince him not to anymore. And will support his decision.

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>>741877653
Holy shit the level of damage control is cringe level. Just close the browser, faggot. You lost. You're an idiot.

>inb4 "I was just pretending to be retarded"

>>741877697
That's your opinion. In his opinion, the best thing for him was to die. I'd be more likely to his opinion to heart, seeing as he's the one who actually has to live his life.

>>741876729
Did try over and over and over again to get her to kill herself with him? Or was it a suggestion that got shot down quick? This determines whether or not he was a "bad" person.

>>741876830
You cant say that for certain. But you can say for certain that she was definatly a factor and played a role in him actually finishing it.

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>>741877653
>go back to original post
>can you imagine going to jail after failing a suicide?
>yes i can and here is why it SHOULD be illegal
>you proceed to sperg out about debtors prison
>damage control guys damage control
>im a lawyer and i cant even read

you have autism and are clearly not a lawyer if you can't even read. please be less retarded in the future. thanks.

>>741864933
you're so retarded, I bet you voted for trump

>>741877653
>>741878094
you both kinda retared to be specific

>>741878107
Who knows but it doesn't matter. Trying even once to get her to kill herself just to have someone to die with makes him a bad person.

>>741866115
what? no is not

>guy wants to off hinself
>guy involve young baby girl because he is a major faggot
>guy send baby girls like zillions of msj telling her he wants to do it
>guy finally wants to do it but keep harassing baby girl and asking her questions under suicide threat
>baby girl agreed in one single msj because major faggot insist so much
>remember that faggot kinda put her in a spot involving her like some sort of support because well he is a faggot
>faggot finally do it
>baby girl is guilty
>what?

>>741877009
Lol i know i fucked up by entertaining this. But every argument (that changes depending on what you say) hes made has been demolished even if hes too wacked to see it.

>>741878210
Yes you can because he had attempted it without her. How could he have wanted to die because of her if he had attempted to without her.

>>741878094
You sound just as cringy as the other anon TBQH

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>>741876616

that's not theft, silly billy.

even i knew that

>>741878383
You've been talking to multiple people.

>>741878094
you haven't attempted to refute any of my points in your last 2 posts after i've already proven

looks like you realized how fucking dumb you were? if you want to be a lawyer when you grow up, you really have to get better at reading before you start to argue, little guy lol.

also see >>741878215

>>741867112
"How was your day"
"When are you doing it?"
She's completely unprompted and deserves more than a year. Sjws need to leave.

>>741878478
Nothing wrong with what she said, how does she deserve a year for a text message and also not committing any crime. And you're the sjw if you think cyber bullying is real or that people aren't responsible for their own actions like him with his suicide.

>>741870180
Not everyone that's bullied becomes a sociopath that wants to kill everyone. Sometimes they just want someone to validate their feelings, instead of convincing them to commit suicide.

>>741877317
Despite the entire details of the story, if she was tired of it she would have just left it alone... Not make it her goal to convince him to do it.

>>741878596
If she wasn't a woman you wouldn't care about the sentencing nor would you feel that they didn't deserve the time.
Go back to tumblr

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>>741878215
Let's look at what you actually wrote. I won't even include the one that you're denying was you, even thought it was clearly you.
>>741874525
>if you were in debt a couple hundred thousand dollars and you were trying to skip out on paying it, you're basically stealing it and should be put in jail.

You do not say you think it "should" be a crime. You say that it's basically stealing and you "should" be put in jail, which implies that you think it IS a crime and you SHOULD be punished.

Then you go even fuller retard and confirm that you think it's a crime here:
>>741875249
>If I borrow a million dollars, the loaners are going to expect it back. If I try to kill myself, it is a blatant declaration going against the loan contract. This is saying that I am practically stealing the 1 million dollars.
>Theft is a crime, so suicidal faggot can rot in jail.

You say that failure to repay a debt is theft (a crime), which is 100% wrong.

So just stop it. Your own words show that you thought it was a crime. The only "should" you use is that the criminal should be jailed.

And yes, it absolutely was you in that other post you're now denying making. You walked into an obvious trap because you're a fucking moron.

More people should be told to kill themselves

>>741878690
I'd feel the same regardless stupid sjw.

That's not how it happened. We've all read the messages. Be less retarded next time.

>>741876569
So your saying the majority of people are smart?

Lol thats a knee slapper.

>>741875249
>A child has no idea what bankruptcy is makes a retarded analogy
One step away from food analogy.

>>741878792
That's exactly how it happened.

>>741877368
So people who think she did nothing wrong cant seem to get their story straight. However people who think she is in the wrong are all on the same page. Hmmm? Makes ya think.

>>741878766
>N-n-no you!
Typical retarded sjw retort. Go back to tumblr

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>>741878701
>damage control this hard
>changing the meanings of my words
>so desperate to be right that you have to lie on an anonymous image board
>mfw

lol what a fucking stretch. you would be the world's shittiest lawyer kid why even try to pretend to be one?

>failure to repay a debt is theft
retard still trying to put words in my mouth. i said there's a clear difference between people who can't repay their debt and people who have no plan on repaying it, and both of those would count as failure to repay debt and you're acting like i said both of these types of people should go to jail.

you're so stupid it hurts. learn to read, you dumbass. please.

Let's try a different analogy.
Say a girl is harassing a boy, constantly messaging him to rape her.
It would be 100% rape, no consent or anything - she's crystal clear about it in all her messages.
Obviously his first reactions to it would be "fuck off", "don't ask people such things" etc. (just like she did in our case).

However,
at one point he's ran out of patience, and even though he knows it's a crime, he consciously decides to do it.
What are his motives at this point (mockery or w/e) are irrelevant. He commits rape.

Does it matter that he's only "let himself slip" once and acted perfectly appropriate at all other times?
Does it matter that he was being manipulated by her to do it?

No. It all surely works in his defense, but he's still committed a crime, no matter how the fuck you look at it.


And so she fucked up too. Guilty as charged.
You either stand strong, or if you know you can't - you get the fuck away.

>>741877405
Get ya eye brow game up son.

>>741878971
wtf

>>741878936
No everyone has different opinions. Some think she did nothing legally wrong, but was morally wrong, some think she nothing morally wrong, but legally wrong. Some think she did both, some think she did neither. And they all have different reasons for their beliefs.

>>741878971
Back to facebook sjw. Hurting your feelings will never be a crime.

>>741877670
You are simply wrong. He didnt harass anyone. She consentually and intentionally kept communicateing with him.

>>741864991
this, she literally said '' i love you but you should kill yourself because no one but me love's you ''

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>>741879008
I used your own words. It's clear that you thought failure to repay a debt was a crime. Everyone who can read sees that.

And again, you wrote this post
>>741876616
no matter how much you now want to deny it.

Seriously, you are a moron.

>>741879019
Difference is she committed no crime.

>>741879019
>I want you to rape me
>no consent
feminist detected

>>741864933
Found guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Currently under appeal.
>not involuntary
>not manslaughter
Massachusetts doesn't have a felony to fit Michelle's "crime" so they convicted her on something else. If the appellate judges are worth their salt, they'll reverse and remand.

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>>741879008
Guess what? Thinking that bringing back debtor's prisons is a good idea makes you equally as stupid as thinking that they still exist.

>>741879128
Facebook is for nigger hating conservative white moms. Hardly a place for sjws

>>741879266
Normally I'd agree, but since she was underage I think of it as harassment. She's too stupid to know how fucked up he is and keeps talking to him. Like how if you have sex with a child it's statutory "rape" even if they agreed.

>>741877971
going to stop convstoping him not to and supporting him is diffrent than pushing him to do so every time you spoke.

"It was his decision"

Not yet it wasnt or he would have wrote a note and done it on his own.

>>741879531
You'd know since you frequent there so much.

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>>741879276
>say someone who attempts suicide should go to jail if they have overwhelming debt
>"durr that means you are saying that debt evasion is a crime"
>"i used your own words"
>being this stupid

that would be you manipulating the meaning to come to your own retarded conclusions

>>741879276
>samefags with original ironic intent and then uses it against me later when you get backed into a corner and get called out for being illiterate
>mfw

my sides are in orbit. you're the saddest and most desperate 12 year old i've seen all month.

>>741878101
No its societys opinion. If you live in a society that believes its wrong, then it is wrong. You either get with the program or get shunned. Or worse.

>>741879279
That's what you say.
I claim it was harassment (Mobile Harassment to be precise).

That it ended up killing him only serves to signify how influential of a harassment case it was.
What say you? Was she not guilty of harassing him?


>>741879280
>I want to be raped
>I explicitly want you *not* to rape me
That's a way to harass someone into doing it, without actually giving consent.
Suppose she did it this way, the argument holds.

>>741879623
Both were just her doing what she thought was best for him. Told him not to do it because she thought that was best for him, then he spent months convincing him death was best for him, so started supporting that view.

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>>741879646
>samefags
See pic. No, you weren't "framed". It's you, faggot.

And yes, I used your own words. You're the one trying and failing to explain them away.

Plus, there's this:
>>741879479
So you look like an idiot either way.

Kms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyPi8vD73R4

>>741879643
So what is it? Am I right or is Facebook for sjws?

>>741879777
Suicide is legal in every state so how can you say society thinks it's wrong.

>>741878311
"Trying even once to get her to kill herself is bad"

How about trying over and over and over again? Lol you keep shooting your own foot.

>>741864933
Damn, that bitch was hit the the ugly stick multiple times over. Fucking disgusting.

>Doesn't want to be with this person anymore
>doesn't know to to break it off
>genuinely doesn't give a shit about this person
>would rather convince the person to kill themself and quite literally rid herself of him and any possible connection to him
>doesn't understand implications of her actions

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>>741874301
i loled

>>741879777
there was a pool? Society voted or something?

>>741879828
No she didn't harass him. That would be if she kept messaging him and bothering him when he told her to stop. If he never told her to stop or made it clear he wanted her to stop then it's just them having conversations.

>>741880155
I'll take Political Correctness for $500, Alex.

>>741878396
He may have attempted it "without her" but then she became a person in his life (a cold hearted girlfriend for that matter) so she very well could have added another reason for his depression and further progress his suicidal tendancies.

It cant be said for absolute certain either way. But she DID play a part in him actually finishing it.

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>>741879889
>30 seconds in ms paint to cover the (you)
>being this desperate
>"this will prove that i'm not a liar!"

holy fuck this is getting pathetic. it's funny that all you've done so far is lie to try and win an argument.

>>741879479
>samefagging some more
>implying i said they should bring back debtor's prison for anyone who can't immediately pay back a debt

yep more lying and putting words in my mouth. you're pathetic.

you really are great at making me laugh with how stupid and desperate you are. you should become a comedian if they end up not letting illiterate retards become lawyers, anon.