Do you think she did anything wrong? http://www.poll-maker.

Yeah but they should just break her legs and her arms over it, all that jail time's pointless.

I really wish people like her were not allowed to change their names.

she cared too much to see a mother and father lose their precious child

Wrong or not I still kinda want to jizz on those eyebrows. No tits so not much else to look at.

>>741388873
yes. fuck her. I wish she had to do her 15 months right away. fucking slut.

Who dis?

>>741388873
I actually struggled with this question because, yes her actions were morally wrong, but no, she did not commit a crime.

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>>741388873
I do. She should never have hooked up with Conrad. He was cancer from the start. I pity her for what he put her through.

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>>741389826
>No tits
that's where you're wrong, kiddo

>>741388873

sure. valerian sucked ass

cara delevingne should know better

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>Adult wanted to kill himself
>Had tried many times before
>Keeps telling this to an underaged girl on psych meds for some reason
>She tells him to get help, see the same psychiatrist she went to etc.
>He refuses, wants to die too bad
>Tries to get this girl to die with him in a Romeo and Juliet style because he's a psychopath
>After months of convincing, she agrees with his decision as it appears it's the only way for him
>Starts telling him to
>One time she tells him if doesn't want to anymore that she will get him help, he refuses again
>Eventually he kills himself
>She's blamed and has to go to jail for over a year (if she loses the appeal)

Please explain how this is fair and how she's not the real victim in all this? Also explain why it would be better if Conrad was still alive seeing as how he was trying to get this girl to kill herself, he may have found another young girl to get to do it with him.

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>>741388873
The strong should victimize the weak! This is nature!

>>741388873
Yeah, she needs to fix her fucking ugly ass eyebrows

Strong forehead game.

I don't think it should be a crime though.

>>741390394
read the texts xD

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>>741390394
finally, an anon with a fucking brain
exactly right

>>741390443
Fuck that

>>741390412
chill out stalin

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>>741390551
you haven't read them all if you think he's wrong

>>741390412
Go fuck yourself you basement dwelling NEET

Honestly, I think something should be been done to her, but I think a jail sentence is much, especially considering she probably has mental issues herself. She should have been sent to mental institution,

laws are for cucks

>you should never tell someone to kill themselves.

>asks /b/

actually kys

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>>741390644
sounding a bit triggered

>>741389904
she wont be in faggot prison, sorry pal

>>741391218
wut

>>741388873
yes she did something very wrong. she should've killed herself for being so goddam ugly

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>>741391317

>>741390213
How were they morally wrong?

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>>741391849

>>741391877
Suicide in this country is perceived as as morally wrong action. Any suggestion or provocation or encouragement of a immoral act is itself immoral.

>>741388873
If I were a weaker person my sister would have succeeded in getting me to kill myself. Every single day that bitch told me I was stupid, worthless, that I should stop trying. She would try to get my friends to quit being my friends because I was a stupid loser. Anything odd that I did was reported to my parents. She listened in on conversations my parents had about my therapy to use as ammo against me. She would break things and blame it on me. My childhood was shit because of her. I'm still fucked up and I still have autism. I'm fit, single and live on my own though, while she's fat with a shit husband and 4 autistic kids. I win, bitch. I hope Michelle Carter kills herself.

>>741390213

Neither did Charles Manson. Should he go free?

>>741392092

Your sister sounds hot. What's her number?

>>741392140
Yes he did he told people to commit crimes, that's incitement and a crime. Suicide is not a crime.

>>741392008
I don't know about that, but you should make your own opinion on whether something is immoral, not just what you think most people feel. There's nothing morally wrong with suicide, it's your body so you can do whatever you want with it.

>>741388873
I plan to murder her and make it look like a suicide.
>Don't tell anyone

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>>741392003

>>741392092
How is that story anything like Michelle Carter. She never insulted him. And he always wanted to kill himself before interacting with her, she tried to get him not to, but he just kept saying it was the only way for him to be happy so she told him to do it.

Just a reminder. People "males" who goto Uni/College etc. ??
>Still goto jail when they do this.

>>741392609
dr's goto jail when they do this

>>741392381
The problem is moral relativism is that people can use it to justify what we would quite normally call horrendous. And furthermore, once you leave moral equivocation to the individual, punishment becomes tricky. Who would be able to dole it out, and decide what's worthy of it?

Sure her actions were shit and deserve to be made public but not given jail time because her case is a hop skip and a jump away from prosecuting people for not intervening in a suicide. A separate person shouldn't be responsible for the actions of someone else who has mental issues of some kind and isn't smart enough to get real help instead of confide in another mentally ill person. Most people now would probably already want to prosecute a person for not doing anything to stop someone from killing themselves which is just opening up lanes where people can be held responsible when they normally wouldn't be.

Why is this news?

>>741392588
I forgot to mention that her goal in all that was to get me to kill myself. I heard her tell her best friend that that was why she treated me like that.

>>741390394
You obviously know fucking nothing about this case. Read more faggot.

>>741393028
You parrots of the MSM have only read the last day of texts, not the months where he talked her into his view that suicide was the only option

>>741392664
That's what the law is for. You can still personally disagree with the law though. If you leave to another country like Saudi Arabia, would you all of a sudden just agree with what most everyone else there finds morally right or wrong?

>>741388873
>Fat kid from the sandlot.jpg

>>741388873
She got a worthless loser to kill himself with nothing but words. The only thing the state should be doing is getting her a phone and paying her 80k a year to troll the shit out of other fucking losers so they also kill themselves.

>>741388873
If I talked your mother/sister/female cousin into killing themselves do you think I did anything wrong?

>>741392995
That's nothing like the Michelle Carter story. Unless you always wanted to kill yourself, and kept telling your sister you wanted to kill yourself, and she told you not to for months, and then she said do it. Then it's nothing like the story.

>>741388938
Didn't she get probation or something?

>>741393272
It's impossible to talk someone into suicide. Conrad Roy was suicidal. He tried to kill himself before he ever met Michelle Carter. He killed himself because he was suicidal. He spent months convincing Michelle that suicide was his only hope for peace. He asked her to kill herself with him. She didn't cause him to kill himself. So your question is bullshit.

>>741392474

this, she's got an alien in her head.

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Fuck Conrad Roy and the shitty media for ruining this girl's life.
Amanda Knox nailed it: they crucified her for ratings.

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>>741390243
Bitch looks like Bert...

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>>741393746
an attempt was made

>>741393587
thanks mom!

burn the witch!!!!

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>>741388873
No.

Fuck no

>>741393274
What gets to me about it is that she was using their relationship as a crutch for her social life. She was feeding on his misery. If she was a decent human being she would have left him. She damned herself by embracing his fucked up nature.

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>>741391849

>>741388873
SAMEFAGGOT SAGE

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>>741394224

>>741390567
LOL. Not at all.

U kids are gay sahe

>>741392884
bro she got jail time for telling a suicidal kid to kill himself and you ask this question on a forum where people type kys all the time.

this case sets a dangerous precedent for /b/ros

>>741388873
yes cause she looks like a total whore

>>741394741
Not really. It depends on the situation.

If I were to just tell you to kill yourself right now, nothing would happen. Even if you put in your suicide note that someone on /b/ told you to so you did, nothing would happen.

Now people in like a chat room urging someone to MIGHT be a different story, especially if there are profiles with email associated with them.

I truly hope some dyke negriss rapes her takes her prison food

>>741394162
That's a lot of baseless assumptions.

>>741395065
yeah the obvious difference is that texting isn't anonymous and that she provided information that helped him kill himself. but it still sets a sort of precedent that could lead to a broader understanding of the culpability of others in a suicide.

>>741395316
True. I think what really damned her was the fact that she helped him find effective ways to carry out the suicide.

>>741395419
And telling him to get back in the truck...

>>741395488
Oh yeah I forgot about that. That was a stupid move on her part.

>>741395316
There's nothing wrong or illegal about giving people information about how to commit suicide. Or else all the websites that give that information out need to be shut down.

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When will whitey ever learn?

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Wifey getting her daily meal

>>741395705
>the blacks

>>741395643
Okay, you really think so? How about you go help someone commit suicide and see how far you get.

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All the things Blacks have created:

let's start with that computer you're typing on
- the software that drives it
- the internet & nearly all web applications
- recorded music
- motion pictures
- tv
- radio
- camera
- telephone
- light bulb
- the automobile
- rocketry
- satellites
- spacecraft
- airplanes
- skyscrapers
- telescope
- printing press
- eyeglasses
- contact lenses
- microwave oven
- metallurgy (most discoveries)
- materials science (plastics, compounds, & most other synthetics)
- 95% of medical advancements
- 95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
- modern food preservatives
- most scientific breakthroughs over the past 1000 years
- the bulk of mathematics, physics, chemistry, and biology
- astronomy (most discoveries and mapping techniques)
- sea navigation (most advancements)
- discovery of DNA
- microscope
- laser technology and it's myriad of uses
- harnessing electricity
- nuclear energy
- wireless technology
- air conditioning devices
- refrigeration
- modern agricultural techniques
- modern democracy
- modern capitalism (the greatest wealth distribution system ever, yes, even with all it's faults)

Blacks are the supreme race! Post this in every thread! Spread the Word!

>>741395643
i agree. i was responding to the anon who questioned why this case was news. it absolutely is news and it could change how we define culpability in suicides. i still think that suicide should not be a crime and that she should not be jailed though i understand why would hate her.

>>741388873
Doesn't matter, she's a melonhead.

>>741395705
>>741395734
>>741395756
>>741395785
Why is /pol/ here? Go raid a loli thread you micro dicks

>>741395834
>printing press
lol

>>741395823
She didn't help him. She just told him to kill himself. And I could give someone information on how to suicide right now and not get in any trouble even if they called the police because it's not illegal.

>>741395834
>>741395860
>>741395885
>>741395910
>>741395952
Small dicked white bois think anyone buying they shit

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>>741395982
>just told him to kill himself
nice simplification

Obviously she did something wrong you stupid fucking braindead cunt.

>>741395982
You are so uneducated.

http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patient-rights/is-it-against-the-law-to-help-someone-else-commit-suicide.html

>>741395>>741395885910
These webms make me feel so bubbly on the inside dawg. Post more.

ITT: Edgy white knights neets who can't critical think in the real world.

>>741388873
you mean, besides her eye brows?

I think her big forehead is hot as fuck. I'd eat her ass any day

>>741389120
She's quite distinct looking. Unless she has plastic surgery, people are going to remember her face for the rest of her life. I know what you mean. Regardless of what people believe her implication in the death was, she is still a fucking piece of shit/spoiled/entitled cunt.

https://soundcloud.com/capricanno/michelle-carter

>>741396045
It's not a simplification, she just told him to kill himself. Now if she had threatened or forced him into it, then she would have done something wrong and illegal.

>>741390644
Weak baby alert!

>>741395979
Edgar Winter gets his due.

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>>741396528
Read the texts you major faggot

bait reported and saged

>>741396528
She gave him advice on how to do it, and she told him to get back in the car after he got cold feet.

Read this you uneducated faggot.

http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patient-rights/is-it-against-the-law-to-help-someone-else-commit-suicide.html
http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patient-rights/is-it-against-the-law-to-help-someone-else-commit-suicide.html
http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patient-rights/is-it-against-the-law-to-help-someone-else-commit-suicide.html

>>741392003
FUCKING KEK'D

>>741396628
Already read the texts, she just told him to kill himself. If you can find me somewhere in the texts she did something more than that, as in, threatened him or something, then show it. If not then she just told him to kill himself.

>>741396994
I hope you lose a kid or loved one to bullying...maybe then you'll get it you piece of shit

>>741396994
You must be ignoring the truth intentionally, as I have posted this more than once. Willful ignorance I guess. She told him to use the car exhaust, dumb fuck. What she did was a crime.

Educate yourself you worthless cumbucket.

http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patient-rights/is-it-against-the-law-to-help-someone-else-commit-suicide.html
http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patient-rights/is-it-against-the-law-to-help-someone-else-commit-suicide.html
http://healthcare.findlaw.com/patient-rights/is-it-against-the-law-to-help-someone-else-commit-suicide.html

>>741396666
>wiki shit

Are you retarded. Find me an actual law. What she did was not assistance, and telling him to kill himself is also not assistance. Nor illegal. Nor was she charged with giving him the information.

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>>741397147
>>741397139
It's bait don't respond to him

Is she guilty of being a complete trash human being, absolutely. Should what she did be considered illegal? No.

>>741397300
this

>>741396103
https://www.xvideos.com/video11810231/blacked_sexy_italian_babe_valentina_nappi_rimming_black_man_with_passion?pl=4283872

>>741397300
illegal? yes, obviously
Deserves to be punished absolutely

>>741397147
he didn't use car exhaust you hapless twat
he used a portable generator, an idea he googled and found himself

>>741397198
>wiki shit

That wasn't a wiki.
You are a dumb fuck.

Here is the law in my state, for example.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=609.215

Kill yourself.

>>741397139
He wasn't bullied. She told him to kill himself because he spent months convincing her it was the only way for him to be happy, at first she told him not to. Also hopefully my adult children don't go around harassing underaged girls with their suicidal thoughts and trying to get those girls to kill themselves too. If that happens, I'll probably think my kid needs to die.

>>741392230
charlie never even told them to go kill anyone. just that roman pulanski and the tates were drugging and raping minors. they acted on their own.

Yeah but her cruelty makes me all hot and bothered, too.

>>741397529
It's wiki shit. That link there also doesn't say that giving information about how to commit suicide being illegal. You're an idiot.

>>741397528
Irrelevant you hapless twat. He only looked it up after she told him about exhaust fumes. She also told him to get back in the car, as well as initially telling him to "just do it." White knight cuck.

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Hell no she might be a piece of shit but it ridiculous to hold her accountable for his death

>>741395834
why is it about race?

>>741397740
>That link there also doesn't say that giving information about how to commit suicide being illegal

You can't read. You should commit suicide too.

I'll break it down for you.

Whoever intentionally advises, encourages, or assists another in taking the other's own life may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 15 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both.

>Whoever intentionally
>advises
>encourages
>or assists

She did all three, cuck. Neck yourself.

>>741397743
he asked her what a painless way to commit suicide was, she said CO, he googled the idea and decided on a generator
I'll tell you right now, portable generator. No need to google it.
The fact that you know so little about the case should be a clue to shut up.

>>741396994
>threatening someone is the ONLY form or coercion.

whats it like being fully retarded

>>741397488

Yes obviously it's illegal. I said it shouldn't be illegal. But we live in a world where there's always someone else to blame. This guy, like everyone else in the world, is 100% responsible for his actions. Someone on the other end of a text message conversation should not be held accountable for his decision.

>>741397986
Coercion means to threaten or force someone into doing something. She did neither. You're retarded.

>>741397940
>Whoever intentionally advises, encourages, or assists another in taking the other's own life may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 15 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both.
Why are you quoting Minnesota law?

>>741397970
Learn. To. Read.

Whoever intentionally advises, encourages, or assists another in taking the other's own life may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 15 years or to payment of a fine of not more than $30,000, or both.

>Whoever intentionally
>advises
>encourages
>or assists

She did all three, cuck. Neck yourself.

>>741388873
just let her get gangraped for 2 months straight, then release her
fucking bitch

>>741397940
And where there does it say giving information about how to commit suicide being illegal. Obviously you can't read. Ofcourse this is also in a different state so it's irrelevant but I'm just talking specifically about that link, where does it say giving information on how to commit suicide being illegal, you retard.

>>741398113
Jesus fucking Christ. I'm not going to look up the law for every state you fucking cuck. Prove me wrong if you have the balls to try.

Pro tip: you can't and won't

>>741398200
>She went to jail for it
>HURR DURR BUT DA LAW MUS BE DIFENT.

Obviously it's not.

Look up the laws for other states and prove me wrong it you have the balls to try.

>you won't

>>741398135
>>741398253
look, retard, Minnesota law doesn't cover what happens in Massachusetts. You literally are choking on dicks.

>>741398360
>Still hasn't shown me a different law in Massachusetts

Thanks for making this easy.

>>741398330
>there's no such thing as false imprisonment, or bad rulings or successful appeals

You're retarded. She broke no laws, that's why the case is relevant because she didn't break any law but went to jail anyway.

>>741398330
>She went to jail for it
lol, you really are a dumb fuck

>>741398481
Why would I? You're making the claim that it's illegal, so you citing law from another state only proves you're an illiterate fuckstick. To show it is illegal, you'd have to cite MA law. You haven't. Dumb fucking retard.
>hurr durr, but if something is illegal here it must be illegal everywhere...

>>741398490
>She broke no laws
>already been proven that she did
>still haven't attempted to prove me wrong with facts

Poor cuck. Life must be rough.

>>741398645
>Still won't take the step to prove me wrong
>being this scared of the truth

Woo lad, you are pathetic

>>741398649
You obviously don't know what words mean. You haven't "proven" anything. And you also thought your link said you can't give information on suicide, which it also didn't. Please learn to read or learn the definition of words.

>>741398773
She didn't just give information on suicide
Idk why you keep talking about that

>>741398773
>You obviously don't know what words mean
>doesn't know what "advises" means

What's it like having zero self-awareness?

>>741395979
Wait.. is the blond the zookeeper that made a mistake during feeding time?

>>741398696
proven: you're wrong to cite minnesota law to argue something is illegal in massachusetts

>>741389904
>>741389137
>>741389120
>>741388938
What a pathetic faggotry is going on here? Are you gonna start crying? Go back to 9fag because what she did was hilarious

>>741399003
>Still haven't tried to actually prove me wrong

kek

>>741388873
ITT: OP is fag with a crush trying to retry her case on /b/

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>>741399024
ma nigga

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>>741399024

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>>741399096
you have been proven wrong
it's a fact that massachusetts is not under minnesota law

>>741398900
It says you can't advise someone to commit suicide. Not you can't give information on how to commit suicide. You don't know how sentences work.

>>741392092
I like your sister, I think you should kill yourself

>>741398850
That was the point I was replying to.

Freedom of speech is more important than someones feelings. She did not physically assist him in any way. In fact one could argue that this chick got set up. He wanted to kill himself. After awhile he brain washed her into wanting him to kill himself too. There is no doubt that she got pleasure from him killing himself. But that's not the issue. The issue is that it shouldn't be illegal to tell someone to do it. If you want to do it it's your choice. If someone is bullying you it's your right to call them a cock sucker faggot and eat shit and die. If it's legal for me to say kill yourself, it should be legal for someone else to say the same words. The only difference between her and i is the amount of effort. She didn't kill him. He killed himself. Totally different. In suicide the victim is the perpetrator. There was another issue where boys are possibily being tried for watching someone kill himself and laughing at him. Look if these fuckers want to die don't punish other people for it.

>>741399231
>says you can't advise someone to commit suicide. Not you can't give information on how to commit suicide.

kek How are you this stupid? How are you able to breath and type simultaneously?

ad·vise
/ədˈvīz/

verb
verb: advise; 3rd person present: advises; past tense: advised; past participle: advised; gerund or present participle: advising
offer suggestions about the best course of action to someone.
"I advised him to go home"
synonyms:
counsel, give guidance, guide, offer suggestions, give hints, give tips, give pointers
"her grandmother advised her about marriage"
recommend (something).
"sleeping pills are not advised"
synonyms:
advocate, recommend, suggest, urge, encourage, enjoin
"he advised caution"
inform (someone) about a fact or situation, typically in a formal or official way.
"you will be advised of the requirements"
synonyms:
inform of, notify about/of, give notice of, apprise of, warn of, forewarn of;

>>741399203
>still haven't shown me a law in Mass that is different

*twiddles thumbs*

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Idk why you faggots keep posting your waifu everyday.
Her life is fucked either way.
She is mentally ill
She is one of the most hated people in America
She will receive constant death threads and be bullied forever
I wouldn't be surprised if she suicides too

She will never fuck you.

>>741399408
You're an idiot. There's a difference between advising someone to do something, what the link says you can't do regarding suicide, and giving someone advice on how to do something, which the link says nothing about and what she did. Are you honestly this stupid.

>>741399538
This.

Too many white knight permavirgins ITT

>>741399569
>There's a difference between advising someone to do something and giving someone advice on how to do something

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA AHHAHA HAHA HA AHHA HAH AHA HAAHAH AH HAAHA HAHAHHAHAAHHA cough AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

wow

>>741399569
This is how autism works...

>>741399569
>Whoever intentionally
>advises
>encourages
>or assists

Fucking hell. I hope you die before you spread your stupidity too far.

look let's put it this way. let's assume that after all the things she said he didn't kill himself and cops found a transcript of everything she said. Should she still be tried and found guilty? again we can't be liable for someone else's actions just because of the words we say

>>741399538
because this case could set a precedent that could limit free speech laws, which resonates in a website as anti-PC as this

>>741399569
is this the work of mental retardation or trolling?

"No, plus he was bothering her for months about his suicidal thoughts, so she just told him to do it"
anyone who thinks this is a literal retard who didnt even read the messages between the two

>>741399859
If you're an army officer and you order troops to kill the entire population of a village....

>>741399859
Yes we can. Inciting violence for example. Rights a not a free pass for anarchy. There are always limits, and there always has been.

>>741399890
It's illegal to encourage suicide in 40 states so it could spread to MA big deal

>>741399716
You can advise someone to go to school. You can give advice to someone on how to improve their golf swing. These are two different things. You can advise someone to kill someone. Or you can give them advice on the best ways to kill someone. Two different things. Please learn how words work.

>>741399538
because deep down most of us want to kill ourselves we just don't have a sexy chick who is supportive like that ... if they had more balls they could have been bad ass bank robbers

>>741399890
Not all speech is protected retard-o

>>741400118
>Whoever intentionally
>advises
>encourages
>or assists

The law includes all of your variables you brainless piece of shit.

>>741400118
My mind is blown by the sheer stupidity.

>>741399858
She did advise him to kill himself, but that's not the point, the point is, her giving him information on how to kill himself, was giving him advice on how to kill himself is was not mentioned in the link. How stupid can people be not to understand the difference.

Those are some really faggoty answers OP

>>741400118
You don't read well do you? Or is English not your first language?

>>741400063
>>741400102
exactly if it's illegal to say it shouldn't matter what the actions were . if it's not illegal to say it still shouldn't matter what the actions were .... look if society is so fucked that it's creating situations where people want to die that bad the best thing we can do is be supportive of their decision. look at japan they have a thing called honor suicide it's fucking bad ass

>>741399859
Your analogy makes no sense. Let's say a guy kills another guy by shooting him in the head with a fucking gun. He is tried and convicted of murder. Now let's say he takes the shot and misses, the other guy runs away. Should he still be tried and found guilty? No, of course not, because he didn't fucking murder anyone.

It's not the shooting of the gun, or the sending of the text messages, that is itself the crime. It's the consequences that arise from the act. The bullet which pulps a dude's skull, or the text messages that when read actually cause a guy to kill himself.

>>741388873
I don't see an option for piss poor eyebrow trimming?

>>741400185
nothing that i said implied that all speech is protected. but this case has nothing to do with hate speech, which is not protected sometimes. this case has no precedent and that's why it's news.

>>741400423
attempted murder still counts numb nuts

>>741390375
underrated post.

>>741400367
>Whoever intentionally
>advises
>encourages
>or assists

as·sist
əˈsist/
verb
verb: assist; 3rd person present: assists; past tense: assisted; past participle: assisted; gerund or present participle: assisting
1.
help (someone), typically by doing a share of the work.
"a senior academic would assist him in his work"
synonyms:
help, aid, lend a (helping) hand to, oblige, accommodate, serve; More
collaborate with, work with;
support, back (up), second;
abet;
informalpitch in with
"I spend my time assisting the chef"
antonyms:
hinder
help by providing money or information.
"they were assisting police with their inquiries"
synonyms:
facilitate, aid, ease, expedite, spur, promote, boost, benefit, foster, encourage, stimulate, precipitate, accelerate, advance, further, forward
"the exchange rates assisted the firm's expansion"
antonyms:
impede
be present as a helper or spectator.
"two midwives who assisted at a water birth"

>help by providing money or information

I feel like I am teaching a first grade special ed class.

>>741400220
You retard, none of that says you can't give advice on how to commit suicide, it says you can't advise someone to commit suicide. If you're too stupid to understand the difference, that's your problem.

>>741388873
what did she supposedly do?

I don't think she did anything wrong.

The guy had full agency over his actions and she didn't force him to do anything. I've heard the tapes and she's definitely a disgusting person but what she did shouldn't be punished by law because it sets a terrible precedent.

No one should be responsible for someone else's actions when the two parties have equal agency in a matter. Calling this involuntary manslaughter is a slippery slope because it implies she had anything to do with his death outside of not informing authorities.

Were she charged with being the accomplice of some crime it'd sit better with me but I mean after a fashion is responding to a fatass who tells you "I don't think I'm going to go eat 10 cheeseburgers like I previously planned" with "do it you fat fuck" any less of condoning of their suicide in the long run.

>>741400423
attempted murder is very much a crime. see the thing with moral fags is that they can't separate law from feelings ... also why the fuck did a judge determine the outcome in charges so severe it should be a jury

>>741388873
She should have known that hooking up with a mental case wasn't going to turn out well for her.

>>741400396
Como?

>>741400536

as·sist
əˈsist/
verb
verb: assist; 3rd person present: assists; past tense: assisted; past participle: assisted; gerund or present participle: assisting
1.
help (someone), typically by doing a share of the work.
"a senior academic would assist him in his work"
synonyms:
help, aid, lend a (helping) hand to, oblige, accommodate, serve; More
collaborate with, work with;
support, back (up), second;
abet;
informalpitch in with
"I spend my time assisting the chef"
antonyms:
hinder
help by providing money or information.
"they were assisting police with their inquiries"
synonyms:
facilitate, aid, ease, expedite, spur, promote, boost, benefit, foster, encourage, stimulate, precipitate, accelerate, advance, further, forward
"the exchange rates assisted the firm's expansion"
antonyms:
impede
be present as a helper or spectator.
"two midwives who assisted at a water birth"

>help by providing money or information

I feel like my brain is about to melt from dealing with someone as stupid as you. How are you so dense? English isn't hard, words are not hard.

>>741400528
She didn't assist him, she just told him to kill himself. He did everything and bought everything on his own.

>>741400611
>I've heard the tapes and she's definitely a disgusting person
right, her life is essentially ruined either way so arguing that she is innocent is not a cuck move, it's just an acknowledgment that we should be careful in arguing that words can induce action without actual threats or blackmail behind them.

>>741400730
They're clearly very hard to you if you don't know the difference between advising someone on how to do something, and giving someone the advice to do something.

>>741400818
You are impossibly ignorant. It only takes five minutes to look it up online, but you WANT to be ignorant, it's like a security blanket for you.

>>741390637

>>741400518

That's a different crime, dickwipe. Attempted murder is not murder. If you didn't commit a murder, you didn't commit a fucking murder.

There is no such charge as attempted involuntary manslaughter in U.S. jurisdictions because it's a contradiction in terms. That charge literally doesn't exist. So if the man hadn't actually killed himself, there would be no crime, but not for the reason you think. Asslicker

>>741400611
Encouraging suicide is illegal in 40 states
Your "free speech" is already fucked

>>741401072
Oh
My
God

Assist

>help by providing money or information

It's right there in the definition you fuckwit. kek

Now I am going to have to define "advice" for you I bet.

>>741390394

Did you miss the part where she wanted to be the "grieving girlfriend"

>>741390459
>I don't think it should be a crime though.
and get a bunch of attention in the press?

A jury and judge happen to disagree with you.

>>741388873
>http://www.poll-maker.com/poll1141351x1e0F4e8C-48
wtf /b/ you guys are a bunch of faggots

>>741400673

Attempted murder is a crime but it's not the same crime charged. Attempted murder by definition is not murder. But attempted involuntary manslaughter doesn't fucking exist.

Also, the right to a jury trial may be waived by any party in criminal or civil litigation if they so choose. Your ignorance of the legal system is showing

>>741401072
You are going to be a virgin the rest of your life. No woman would want to be with someone as stupid as you

>>741401082
Giving someone information on how to kill themselves is not real illegal assistance. If I tell you a gun will kill someone, I did not assist you when you go out and kill someone. Nor is every website out there giving information on how to do these things, assisting the people who do crimes in doing them.

>>741401199
Why are you going from talking about advice to assist. But she didn't assist him.

>>741401354
>Giving someone information on how to kill themselves is not real illegal assistance.

Citation needed. You can't just say things and not prove it.

>More evidence of your stupidity

>>741401097
so basically it's the prosecution fucking with us. if they thought that her actions were responsible for his death and that it was not covered under the first amendment they should have tried her for murder. the trouble is they knew how far they could push the envelope and stopped just shy of it. legally speaking this how you argue she is innocent ... it's where the thread starts to unravel

>>741401241
>Did you miss the part where she wanted to be the "grieving girlfriend"

Never happened. Propaganda by the prosecution in an attempt to vilify her. She wanted him dead exclusively because he spent months telling her it was the only way for him to be happy.

>>741401450
Assist

>help by providing money or information
>information

It's in the definition. I am only using the words you is you stupid twat.

She told him to kill himself using fumes because it was painless and fast, how much was needed, and how long it would take. She also straight up told him to do it, and told him to get back in the vehicle when he got cold feet.

>you have no argument

You are just arguing to argue at this point.

>>741401097
bingo if the man hadn't killed himself there would be no crime. first ammendment doesn't work on the premise of what other people do. either it's expressly illegal or it's expressly legal. other peoples responses are not in question when it comes to a matter of free speech. we can not be held liable for the butterfly affect.

>>741401144
Yes but considering it involuntary manslaughter doesn't sit well with me. It implies words have the power to force someone to do something.

Were she charged under something that befit an accomplice it'd be more reasonable considering she didn't inform anybody of his intent, but involuntary manslaughter is a real stretch to encompass what she actually did.

>>741401479
I gave a clear example retard, or else those websites would be shut down. Similarly I can say that it's not illegal to not call the cops when someone is dying, based on those teens not going to jail for watching that guy drown and not calling the police.

I don't know, clearly there's a grey area. The kid wanted to kill himself, maybe wouldn't have if she didn't encourage it. But maybe he would have? I guess because she persisted so much with it, deeply encouraging him and even giving him advice on how to do it. Then again once a day at least some faggot on /b/ asks what an efficient method of suicide is. Should the people who respond be thrown in jail for giving them the tools?

>>741401694
Word definitions and legal definitions are not the same. I don't know if you're seriously this stupid or not. She did not assist him, she told him to kill himself, and he did everything on his own.

>>741401293
lol by any party? i'm pretty sure it should go in favor of the defendant seeing as how they have more to lose than the prosecution. trail by jury is a fundamental aspect of Miranda rights

>>741401330
Lost my virginity 4 years ago. 21 now.

>>741390375
she just isn't a very good actress she meh in suicide squad too

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>>741388873
>Hey kill yourself so I can play "the grieving girlfriend" role for attention
>He actually kills himself

He was the ultimate beta cuck and the World is better off without him.

>>741393119
no faggit ur stupid

>>741401293
>the right to a jury trial may be waived by any party in criminal or civil litigation if they so choose.

In a criminal case, only the defendant can request a bench trial, but the prosecution and the court also have to agree. IIRC, the same is true in civil cases. In the US.

>>741395834
Nigger didnt even mention peanut butter

Who is she?

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>>741388873
Yep. She contributed to the death of a another human.

She got a lite sentence and unless she repents will burn eternally.

Course many /b/tards have earned the same fate.

>>741401479
it's actually the other way around nig nog if no law exists it's piratically impossible to prove it's legal unless there is eithe a law making legal or there is a legal precedent. show the law where it says it is. Assisted suicide is illegal under the premise that they have a change of heart and at some point are no longer consenting to be murdered. "suicides" if the person deliberately takes their own life there is nobody to prosecute.

>>741402038
>is a fundamental aspect of Miranda rights

Nope. It's in the Bill of Rights. Don't recall which one.

>>741402290
Lizzie Velasquez