"lets try communism" >millions of people starve

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>>741230763

He needed to wait for automation. Technically, we could have Marxism with our modern technology. Automate everything, don't kill the intellectuals, and BOOM...only thousands of people will starve.

What if we all have robotic slaves? It would work pretty good then, no?

Guys, Seinfeld is growing.

Fluoride in drinking water
Fluoride in Teflon coating
Lead contamination in soil
Lead paint
Estrogen in drinking water
Radionuclide contamination in high phosphorus fertilizer
Slag exposure
Food shortage
Over population
Eugenics
Civil unrest
Boredom
Pathogens
World peace?
Aliens
Aliens
Dark wizards
Psychics
Class warfare
Class warfare
Supervolcanoes
Accidental injury
Depression
Criminal behaviour
Fluoride in toothpaste
Under exercise
Tooth decay
Poor oral hygiene
Coconuts
Ragweed
Fire ants
Killer bees
Climate change
Stagnation
Illegal dumping
Orbital drift
Greed
Xenophobia
Corruption?
Gender warfare
Black widow/brown recluse
Gamma radiation
Seismic anomaly
Political warfare

>>741231611
Jesus was a goddamn lunatic fag

>>741231854
That is irrelevant
He did magic tricks

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>>741231801

>>741230763
Sounds like late stage capitalism

>>741230763

Nigga millions of people around the world have been starving on multiple different continents, under both capitalism and communism.

Political ideology doesnt cause famines anywhere you dumb fuck.

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>>741231923

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>>741231999

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I want this man to fuck me

>>741230763
Communism works, you just need a leader that loves his country more than it loves itself. Cuba is a great example, free healthcare free higher learning, they just sided with the wrong country

>>741231947
>this

Capitalism only works from the perspective of a tiny minority. It just so happens that OP and probably everyone else in this thread are part of that minority.

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>>741232094
I WANT YOU TO FUCK ME JERRY, FUCK ME

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Same

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Let me succ your gaping asshole, please

>>741232106
Don't forget vaccine against lung cancer and world leaders off key travelling to Cuba for organ transplants. Latter could be organ harvesting tho.

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>>741232229

Communism/socialism as it was always understood meant an anarchist/left Marxist society with no capitalism and no government with worker owned cooperatives.Marx himself never even wrote about what Communism should be, he simply wrote critiques of capitalism (i.e.,externalities, labor exploitation, inequality, imperialism, ineffeciency). You could also look at countries that actually practiced free market systems the way they were meant to be-Zimbabwe, Mexico, Brazil, and most of Africa and Latin America. All of them were utter failures that resulted in slow GDP growth stagnating wages, massive declines in median income and high poverty rates. Things changed in places like Bolivia, Ecuador, and so on, and others like Venezuela did well for 15 years but began faltering once privately owned retailers began selling off imports and such to Colombia combined with declining oil prices (which they didn't diversify their economy) began to occur. Countries in the west like the U.S and Britain don't really practice capitalism the way it's meant to be. We have massive corporate subsidies and protective tariffs on certain goods and essentially socialize risk while privatizing reward (i.e. passing off patents and research to privately owned interests).

>>741232130
>The greatest profits are not realized by providing quality goods and services at a reasonable price

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It's not rape if she likes it.

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post your gay yiff here

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I want to shove my cock inside of a mongoloid midget hailing from Brooklyn

>>741232518
>Fucks a hooker.
>Asks for money

i am 14 yrs of age mods pls ban

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COMMUNISM IS THE VERY DEFINITION OF FAILURE

>>741231819
and what is this?

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I have raped and tortured several farm animals, AMA

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>>741232938
>Gets HIV
>Goes to dentist

>>741232889
I liked to think of it more as a great idea that turned out to be terrible in practice.

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>be me
>12ish
>watching iCarly
>get a huge throbbing erection
>mom walks in
>ohshit.jpeg
>pic related
>try to hide it
>mission failed
Rip

>>741230763
Must've made it. The lesson is simply that radicalism will never work. Communism is unachievable and full-blown Capitalism is a nightmare. Mixed economies favoring Capitalism and Socialism are the only way any nation can thrive.

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>>741233253
I'm into Rape. It just turns me on ya know. There is nothing not quite like the feeling of being held down and fucked without your consent.

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>>741230763

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>>741233253
>be me
>constantly having rape fantasies about my uncle
>he calls me
>act natural
>pic related
>he just wants to know how I'm doing
>I tell him I want his cock in my ass
>he hangs up

>>741233586

Maybe, for now.

But imperialism certainly worked.

Who's to say what'll work in the future with different technological innovations and societal evolutions.

>>741233864
Imperialism only caused more problems, GTFO radical scum.

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>>741233864
You know what else works? Same sex marriage. HMU

>>741233693
>Go to cousins house
>Sleepover at cousins house.
>ItsRapingtime.jpeg
>Wake up in the middle of the night
>Tie her down
>Cover her mouth with tape so she cant scream.
>Begin thrusting my cock inside of my cousin
>Hear her muffles screaming.
>Her parents walk in
>OhShit.jpeg
>Kill them both with knife.
>Continue fucking cousin
>Creampie
>slit my cousins throat.
>walk home.

I want Fred flintstone to fuck me.

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>>741234211

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>>741234019
>be me
>9
>growing up on a farm in Texas
>dad takes me riding on our horse thunder for 1st time
>exited as fuck
>instead of riding on top I get to ride it's dick
>my dad leaves me there to be raped by Thunder's thunder cock
>fuck.jpeg
>I proceed to get brutally raped by a horse cock for 14-20 minutes
>I now permanently have a 1inch diameter asshole
>thanks dad
>pic not related

>>741230763
I pick the bait

Every single time communism was tried, tons of foreign intervention managed to sabotage it's work.

USSR lived it's entire life under some sort of war and intervention.

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I blame the Canadians

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>>741234316
>be me
>young but ready
>go to the shady side of town
>small gang of African Americans walk by
>howdy.jpeg
>they say "this is a nice one"
>start running at me with their nigger legs
>ohfuck.jpeg
>get gang raped in some crazy hooke's house
>passed out after they gave me something to drink
>wake up naked in some ally
>stay there for 2 days until police take me into custody
>too shocked to bitch about rape
>pic not related

>>741232417
only proving that there is a sweet spot between the two extremes where (almost) everyone gets fed, (almost) everyone can work, and (almost) everyone has enough wiggle room to improve their lives if they'll work for it.

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>>741230763
>be me
>living off of welfare
>go on /b/ to shit on communism
>make post
>make no real points just mad that they have a place in the pixelcanvas
>still on welfare
>say that communism is nothing but a welfare state
>not understanding ideology when a socialist wins an argument so use one of three arguments
> one "move to north korea"
> two "helicopter ride commie"
> three "jew"

>continue living off of welfare
claim anyone on /b/ or /pol/ with some rational thinking or holds a view that apposes them call them a Jew

>then think that its wrong that antifa calls us nazis but the left are jews

>replies to this post

kys commie scum

suck marxs dick

helicopter ride commie swine

>>741230763
"Let's try fascism"
>millions of people die violently in a few short years
"Let's try it again....BUT WITH NUKES!"

Commiecucks ain't as dumb as fascucks

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>>741234733
R.I.P.

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>>741230763

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>>741230763
considering he is a jew those odds are actually pretty high

>>741235590
Lol just had to throw Rothschild in there. This is such a reach

>>741235590
you can instantly tell its bull shit if you ever read lenin or Marx they actually demonize the Rothschild

>>741235862

>actually expecting people to read Marx before they bring in their "opinions"

nice 1

>>741235713
kek

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>>741235736
do you know that rothchild is not a man but a family.
They funded the rise of the red army the Bolshevik revolution, it is not that far fetched

>>741235590
Lol just had to throw Rothschild in there. This is such a reach

>>741235963
>implying the Bolsheviks had anything to do with socialism or communism

>>741236185
>implying the Bolsheviks had anything to do with socialism or communism
implying it is not

>Lol just had to throw Rothschild in there. This is such a reach
Not an argument

>>741235963
you know in the book imperilism the highest stage of capitalism Lenin says that the Rothschilds are one of the bigger players in Americas imperialism

i may be paraphrasing a bit

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>>741236464
So what, they are

>>741236185
>implying the Bolsheviks had anything to do with socialism or communism


Now you are just meeming, arent you?

>>741236464
Are you so fucking retarded that you dont know that they dont care with which system they exploit you?

>>741236315
Socialism is a historical movement calling for worker ownership of the means of production; communism is a moneyless classless society that occurs after socialism.

Look at the history of the Bolsheviks, what is it about dictatorship screams worker control?

is that what happened to greece?

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>>741236618

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>>741236553

>>741232935
A list of goals to accomplish so communism doesn't spread.

>>741232130
>top kek
Maybe if niggers, muslism and mexicans weren't such lazy fucks and actually worked they wouldn't live in poverty you dumb idiot.
Communism is retarded system and will never work. In ZSRR alone it killed 20 mln people. More than capitalism ever did in whole world.

>>741236744
you also know that during the soviet union jews were really suppressed and hated

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>>741236618
okay, so the handicapt retard shall not intervene with the means of production then? and every one is the director taking care of paper work, and non of the ppl will be selfish and take a largercut when they can, just as they will rest themselves if they do wrong

>>741237121
did you know that apples and oranges actually come from the same name they aren't so different
their real name is apples from the orange tree

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>>741236874
i am with you on removing a some of those out of this world, but some are a bit off, of reality to be precise

>inb4 lizard aliens, nordic aliens and grey men etc etc are real and in a conflict fighting over the earth in a disagreement what to do with this planet

Well Marx himself couldn't have predicted millions of deaths. Maybe you should blame the people who failed to follow Marx's system correctly. That's why they all their own personal modifications. Leninism, Stalinism, Maoism. Maybe it wouldn't have been that bad if they didn't make changes to Marxism. Also Marx said the revolution was only supposed to happen in capitalist nation. China and Russia, at the time, were not quite there. Also Marx didn't think people should force it. Which Lenin did exactly that.

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>>741237090

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>>741237314
>blame the people who failed to follow Marx's system correctly.
Marx did not account for lazy niggers

>>741237448
That was his own fault. But I wouldn't blame him for the deaths. You blame the person who shot the gun, not the person who built it.

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>>741237448 nothing personal little bitch

>>741231819
You're reposting your search history, aren't you?

On topic, Karl Marx didn't actually initiate the creation of a communist government; he and Freidrich Engels came up with the basic ideas. Lenin carried out its implementation through the Russian Revolution, then got ousted by Stalin.
Communism has gotten exponentially shittier with each new leader ruling with it. Marx had the right idea with keeping it academic, even with his manifesto being so pointed.

>>741237317
no i read it in a book

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>>741237448

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>>741238048
uhuh

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>>741238048
No shit the jews where hated, they where the commissars, they where doing the repressing.
it wasnt the jew populations that got killed by the jews that controlled the grain industries

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>>741232889

>>741237088
>if they actually worked
>needs Trump to help him because "they" are killing "us" on jobs and trade

>>741238952
> "they" are killing "us" on jobs and trade
Are you saying "they" are communist?

Ever watch the movie Grapes of Wrath? Communism versus Capitialism can be summed up pretty easily with it. Joseph Stalin banned the movie because it showed even the poorest people who lived under capitialism could afford automobiles. It may not seem fair that some people have so much under capitialism, but when the poorest live better than most of the population under communism, its pretty apparent anyone who claims communism is superior needs to get their head out of their ass.

>>741239188
No, it's Trump saying and you misreading the elected president of the United States. Do you feel like you know better in your mother's basement than the person who became a president?

>>741239420
Sperg a little less.

Is Trump saying that "they" are communist?

>>741239498
>said you are misreading the president
>"sperg a little less"
>keeps misreading

>>741239763
donald trump is in this thread?.

>>741231638
>don't kill the intellectuals
do you wanna get put in a gulag? because that's how you get put in a gulag

>>741231638
>don't kill the intellectuals
But those will notice that Marxism is just a method of gaining control over a population and speak out.

The existence of intellectuals is also debunking the we are all equal myth

>>741239860
>doesn't know twitter
You need communism because capitalism makes the world advance too fast for you

>>741240128
I ASK AGAIN , DID TRUMP SAY THAT "THEY" ARE COMMUNIST??

ARE YOU DYSLECTIC?

>>741240128
So you admit that you follow Trumps Twitter?

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>>741240128
Lol you got btfo

>>741240276
>"are you dyslectic?"
>misreads this much
>>741240358
Ofcourse I follow Trumps twitter, why wouldn't I? The man has litterally done more than all the anons on 4chan combined

>>741240808
So trump says that "they" are communist?

Who is "they"?

Why are you not able to answer direct question?

>>741230763
Just out of curiosity, have you considered that maybe the only difference between capitalism and communism is that in capitalism just as many people starve, but they're not in your neighborhood? Capitalism draws off wealth from other nations. Thus people starve far away. It doesn't mean less people starve.

>>741241758
>implying i give a shit about other countrys

>>741241903
Well stated. Just wanted to confirm the nature of the question as being less about virtue than pragmatism.

>>741242028
k

>>741241459
>Maybe if niggers, muslism and mexicans weren't such lazy fucks and actually worked they wouldn't live in poverty you dumb idiot.
> if niggers, muslism and mexicans weren't such lazy fucks and actually worked they wouldn't live in poverty
>niggers, muslism and mexicans weren't such lazy fucks and actually worked
>niggers, muslism and mexicans

The rest you have to figure out yourself. It's the best person's market, nobody is awarded for effort

>>741242250
It doesnt says communist in that whole list you just barft out

>stil not answering a direct question

>>741239995
The myth is actually that Communists believe we are all equal. That is not true. No Communist theory assumes that we are all equal.

>>741242250
>The rest you have to figure out yourself.
>just figure out what point i did not make
>trust me i am right
>it is what i say it is despite me not saying what it is
>i am a idiot
>my name is john

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>>741242732
So they know you have weak niggers that cant feed themselves, they know that the whites have to work more sacrifice more to feed them?
They still think it is fair and a good idea?

>>741242575
Your point being?
This is the first time I even use the word communism. It has litterally been you and only you crying the communism card. You keep talking about your fansy pants question like it's the best thing since sliced bread while fisting communism into everything like you know...a commie.
What do you want to know, has the communism finally conquered all, is that it?

>>741243172
This comment is yours or you are a retard replying to questions not directed at yours
>>741240128
>>741238952 here you are implying "tehy" are communist

>>741239188
As asked here if that is what you are implying
, and here >>741239498 here >>741240276
and here >>741241459


On a 1 to 10 scale, how special are you?

>>741243585
He is 10/john
It is some idiot happa acting like a retard, he thinks he is trolling right wingers.
Didnt save the meme but hes a no life virgin who spends his life here.
Apparently he wants the world to be as racemixed and sad as him so he promotes racemixing and bashes trump.

Just dont talk to him as he will post another of his brainfarts

>>741243585

>>741243585
As a person who wrote >>741243172, yes that is my comment.

Also
>implying

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>>741244715
So you say trump says they are communist, yet he is not saying it

>>741231819
"political warfare" lel

Communism will never work because people like to OWN THINGS!

-Frank Zappa

>>741232106
>Communism works
>Uses Cuba as an example

Are you fucked in the head?
Oh, sure they have some benefits like free universal health care, and free colleges and universities.

All it costs is one's own personal individual FREEDOM!

Why don't you go to Miami Florida and pay a visit to the area known as Little Havana, and ask people about what great people Fidel Castro and Ernesto "Che" Guavera were?

How ould you like it if the government came into YOUR home, declared it the property of "The State" and that you no longer owned it, or had a right to privacy? Worst yet, the home you worked so ard to pay off the mrtgage on not only no longer belongs to you, the "State" has now decided to divide it' Equally" so FOUR families can live there instead of just your own.

And if you dare speak out against this government intrusion, your are branded as "Counter-revolutionary" as well as an "Enemy of the state" and you either A) Spend the rest of your life in jail as a political prisoner, or B) (If they feel merciful) take you out to have you shot.

FUCK YOU ANON! DON'T TALK ABOUT CUBA UNTIL YOU'VE TALKED TO A CUBAN EXILE/EX PATRIOT!

>>741245788
No I don't, its you misreading and beliving in "implications". You are still the one screaming communism here.

>>741246667
it wasnt a implication but a question, that you could have answered a while ago with out being a dumb cunt sperging bullshit fallacy, if you were not such an idiot

>>741231947
I don't think OP meant starvation death exclusively.

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>>741230763

>>741247800
>never claimed you implied anything

You only revolved around communism. Like a broken record, Trump communism, communism, communism...
you forcibly dragged in on and on trying to fit Trump and communism together like some weird liberal fetish. Like that would somehow prove something and make Shillary a pres.
Like I said, it's a market, you don't get a special prize for trying

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ww2


poland started the war, america encamped the japs, just like hitler encamped the jews because the jews were at war with hitler as hitler stepped out of the global currency.

Before then germany and the axis and england and america had a pact to fight communism that was rampant across europe, chaos was every where and millions starved.
Some political conflict was created with Switzerland resulting in america pulling out.

Poland had a pact with england and france.

Poland then started to start shit well, not the polish ppl the polish jews did and they started to attack german towns at the borders (they pulled hitler in to a war with russia in the same manner).
This started the war dragging in england (whom did not want war with germany, the king even stayed in germany in to the war).
And france, france already had troops on the border and hitler acted, he was welcomed as a liberator of france and the armies capitulated as they were sick of the commies (they started the vicy government to hide this fact).
Englands ppl did not wanted the war yet the money in england spoke (rothchilds money).
Japan then got pulled in to a war with america, they got boycotted on rubber and oil, resulting in the desperate unprepared act of the attack on pearl harbor (which was allowed to happen, reports of ships were made, admiral pulled out, fleet at port, plane sightings ignored, radar sightings ignored, instant declaration of war).
In the end japan got nuked twice after surrendering, one nuke fell on the only great cathedral in asia, the other just happen to fall on the only other city in japan who had a large catholic population.
And what did it lead up to, the creation of the eu that is now annihilating europeans.

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>>741248913

>>741248972

THAT WAT GRINDS MY GEARS

people say Nazis were racist how can that be when there were different races that supported the Nazis

>>741248913
>Like I said, it's a market,
market?
wtf are you even talking about

>>741249418
Oh, I'm sorry anon.
Did I hurt your feefees, oh dear. Do you want me to hold your hand, is the world a scary place? No wonder you have a hard on for communism. Too bad, you ain't getting it.

>>741230763
Famine was artificially induced and thus has nothing to do w/ communism.

>>741249765
No it was you who likes communism, i am the one who fucks kids up the ass.

>>741236508
Yeah, right.
Russians are fucking innocent, sure!
Let's blame Jews for everything, shall we?
DINDU!!
DINDU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>741249831
Fair enough, though I don't like communism personally. But not judging your preferences.

>>741243160
The most hilarious part of this picture is that what is said of blacks could be said of slaves during slavery
Indeed, as slaves work is not retributed by money, one could say that they produce wealth but not value
(the value being produced by the slaves owners)
So one could also complain that "slaves cost more to society than they produce", given that their owners have to pay money to feed them, house them, take care of them, etc...

When in a system where, as capitalism, the owners of the means of production are considered to be the producers of value, it is only natural that they gain more money than the actual workers that produce wealth with these means of production.

So stating that blacks cost more than they produce in such a system does not necessary means that they work less but maybe only that they are exploited more.

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>>741250032
No the russians of back then are just as stupid as you now, you are being led like a commie sheep to the slaughter just as the american capitalist kids are led to a slaughter

Stop being a tribalist stop picking sides as you dont understand that controlled opposition to create conflict. its all bullshit.
you should rise above it and smell the true movement behind this world.

>>741251402
* its

>>741235590

>Pretending this hard
>No explanation given as to how his potential belief system affected his political ideas.

I dont even like communism either.

>>741237314

Marx is not god. He did not know everything or do everything perfectly. He never left particular ideas as to how such a system was to work, just a lot of nice platitudes and ideas smeared on paper with little appreciation for how it was really going to get done. No laws or rules, or any constitutions, just nice sounding ideas.

>>741241758

>Implying that people should care about others who are not part of their immediate gene pool.

>Implying people should care about people who will dismantle their culture in a moments notice.

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>>741252881

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>>741231819

>>741254941
>Fluoride in drinking water
>Fluoride in Teflon coating
>Lead contamination in soil
>Lead paint
>Estrogen in drinking water
>Radionuclide contamination in high phosphorus fertilizer
>Slag exposure
>Food shortage
>Over population
>Eugenics
>Civil unrest
>Boredom
>Pathogens
>World peace?
>Aliens
>Aliens
>Dark wizards
>Psychics
>Class warfare
>Class warfare
>Supervolcanoes
>Accidental injury
>Depression
>Criminal behaviour
>Fluoride in toothpaste
>Under exercise
>Tooth decay
>Poor oral hygiene
>Coconuts
>Ragweed
>Fire ants
>Killer bees
>Climate change
>Stagnation
>Illegal dumping
>Orbital drift
>Greed
>Xenophobia
>Corruption?
>Gender warfare
>Black widow/brown recluse
>Gamma radiation
>Seismic anomaly
>Political warfare
some of these are true , what kinda Marxist tactics is this?

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>>741231638
Which feature do we drop though?
No security - rampant abuse, millions die
No functionality - no food, millions die
No Ease of use - contaminated food, millions die

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>>741230763
Unters, this is why socialism and communism doesnt works

>>741246625
>Oh, sure they have some benefits like free universal health care, and free colleges and universities.
>All it costs is one's own personal individual FREEDOM!

So you prefer the US system where many don't have good health care, nore can afford higher education, and also lack many personal individual freedoms?

I mean the US after all has the highest prison population, the patriot act cuts down a lot of personal freedoms and here a small list of things that are illegal in most of the US.

- public nudity
- eating horse meat
- eating some chocolet products (like kinder eggs)
- drinking in public (often even on your front loan)
- smoking weed
- crossing a street (jailwalking)
- being a prostitute
- going to a prostitute
- gambling
- in some states even some sex positions

>if the government came into YOUR home, declared it the property of "The State" and that you no longer owned it

Like what the police in the US can do if they "suspect" that the house was part of a "crime"?

Now I agree that Cuba has massive problems with "personal individual freedoms", but the US would be a shitty example aswell.

>>741232417
None of those counties had laissez-faire capitalism. They all had massive government regulations. You're a liar like the rest of the commies

>>741257971
>free
It is not free you cunt, europe is collapsing as they are flooding the borders with immigrants, it is a globalist plan to create a economic social demographic collaps to destroy 90% of the population

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>>741257971
>I mean the US after all has the highest prison population

>>741235457
False equivalence between capitalism (economic system) and authoritarian regimes

>>741234934
Thats just more capitalist bullshit

>>741248577
"meanwhile islamists mow down people with cars and trucks at Chrsitmas markets in Germany"
There was one guy with one truck. So no truckS and no cars and no islamistS.
And not only right wingers got arrested, but a bunch of Muslims also get arrested, which now that I think about it, are right wing muslims so then it is fitting again!

>>741241758
Bullshit. Capitalism is about voluntary interactions between individuals whereas communism is a planned economy that attempts to force everyone to work and distribute wealth equally. The end result being mass starvation.

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>>741259241
>but a bunch of Muslims also get arrested

>>741237121
I'm not even a socialist but that image completely misunderstands what socialism is. Socialists =/= progressives, but progressives are often also (champagne) socialists.

>>741230763
Marx didn't "try" anything. He just wrote ideas. Others, with governments under their power, tried things. Some of them used some of Marx's ideas. Some of them used more, some less. We use some too. We just don't credit them to him in the post-McCarthy era anymore. Can't trigger the ideological lunatics after that.

China got it right. Take communism, retain ownership and control, but apply just enough capitalism on the mercantile level to keep the plebs engaged and excited. We can't compete against that model. Hence, China builds everything under the sun, and their own machinery to build everything under the sun, while we build... mainly weapons in a desperate race against time and the world to remain relevant.

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>>741259455
>Socialists =/= progressives
No, you are talking about national socialists, and germany prior to ww2 showed for 4 years they were able to have massive economic boom and tech development.

>>741251023
>>741243160

Exactly, it's as clever as saying "the poverty problem will be fixed by getting rid of the poors"

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The goal of life is to:
A. enjoy experiencing as much of what the world has to offer and live a beautiful and enjoyable life
B. work to produce product for the benefit of those above you in a power/wealth hierarchy, in vain hopes of abusing enough others that someday you too will be higher up that hierarchy.

Jews: This is what we've been telling you for thousands of years, learn your place at the bottom, and maybe you'll be a winner at the game of life
German/British/Murritards: Please let me play too, I'll do anything. I have no other idea of what life is about anyway, so I might as well

Tens of thousands of other cultures around the world: All you have produced are lives of misery and mountains of garbage, and unnecessary suffering and death on a grand scale. No thank you. We'll try anything else, even if it is likely to fail a hundred times in a row.

Yeaaaah, what's wrong with the rest of the world, I swear...

>>741259670
It's generally not constructive to your ends, to tell other people what they think they mean.

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>>741230763
"Lets do capitalism"
>Millons starve, millions die in wars, millions die of poor working conditions/housing, millions live and die as slaves
>small group get wealthy

"Lets still do capitalism"
>millions starve, tens of millions die in wars, millions of wage slaves, dying of poor housing/working conditions
>small group gets even wealthier

"This is working great, Capitalism forever"
> Still millions starve, millions of wage slaves, millions of tonnes of poisonous gas pumped into the atmosphere to really fuck up our descendants, Billions stashed in Panama and the British Virgin Isles in unpaid tax, perpetual war.
>small group ridiculously wealthy

YEAH MAN, CAPITALISM RULES!!!!

>>741259494
>China got it right.
China is not right, you have no fucktard idea what is going on in china

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>>741260744
>millions die of poor working conditions/housing, millions live and die as slaves
>, millions of wage slaves, dying of poor housing/working conditions
This is not a capitalism system at all.

>>741260207
All humans actually need are clean food, clean air, and clean water. Community and companionship are next, but many people live lives without either. Beyond that, everything else is a luxury.

A culture that manages to ensure sufficient production and distribution of those essentials for its population size, can do whatever it wants playing around with luxury markets.

The US has much of the worlds most fertile land. Unfortunately for it, after 37,000 years of people living within their means on it, it was stumbled upon by idiots and assholes who settled it, promptly set about consuming it all as a disposable resource, destroying it, and shitting all over it for their own individual short term gain. It's no mystery why the US is the way it is. It formed its ideology based on a British model of gross ignorance, entitlement, and violence. In the few generations since, nothing has changed.

>>741230763
because jews are retarded demons obsessed with foreskins and little boi's dicks

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>thread started 8 hours ago

God damn this an epic bait

>>741260826
That's possible, but unlikely. I own a small design house stateside, and physically work in China on the mfg side 20+/- weeks a year.
Have been for going on 20 years.

That's where my dumbass uneducated opinion comes from.

>>741258614
Same with 4chan brand of communism

Haha how about captilasim and let dirty ass Jews control media and journalism and Hollywood and leading nations and all saud control oil ha! Iam sure that won't kill millions am i right ??
>terrorist fake Jew state of isreal
>millions of death from starvation
>millions of refugees
>million of death from unnecessary wars
Go Jews !!!

>>741261488
>bait
>baiting others into discussing something
>aka having a conversation

>starting a thread to have a conversation
>vs starting a thread that no one is interested in that just 404s after a few minutes

all threads are bait
that is the point of making a thread

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>>741261208
Funny as it was the vikings that arrived in america around that time and not the asians, the asians did not move in until 13k years ago

Fun fact, most of the indians where dying from malnutrition chewing on some corn that was not nutritious enough to give a full nutrient spectrum during those 13 k years being in north america.

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>>741261782

>didn't even check my dubs

>>741261748
Ancient pre-reform problem jews
+
Roman Authoritarianism / State Religion of obedience and control
=
Judeo-Christian culture
+
Just add the worlds looted Old Money
=
Capitalism

Predatory and Barbaric.

>>741262199
it is a bi partisan system , how the fuck do you not see that.
both sides are funded by the same people

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>>741230763

>>741232417
Good points here. Further to your explanation on Venezuela is that private interests in the country have been actively fighting the revolution since Chavez took power. Media is anti-Chavista. US State department is all up in that heezy supporting the opposition with money, organization, and heavy media coverage. Private companies in Venezuela stockpile their goods to induce food shortages, then blame Maduro.

>>741261921
http://www.nature.com/news/ancient-migration-coming-to-america-1.10562

Vikings beat Columbus, but 40,000 years ago, vikings were still trudging around scavenging Neanderthalensis' table scraps, not building boats and circumnavigating the world.

>>741233586
You have to understand the successes and failures of nations in their full context. For instance North Korea has been under US trade embargo since the Korean War went to armistice in 1951. South Korea gets heavy international investment, propped up by the US. There is a reason for different developmental trends.

Even so, comparing North and South Korea, NK developed much more rapidly than SK until 1970.

>>741262522
>bi-partisan
u wot m8
Pretty sure that came right out and said there are multiple parties.

>>741234537
That's accurate. 1917 revolution in Russia was immediately followed by 1917 invasion by the US, Britain, Austria, France trying to put down anti-capitalist revolution.

The USSR was constantly fighting for survival - threats were fostered within the country and the government had to clamp down hard. Meanwhile, try to reinvent people's conception of labour relations. It's fucking hard - people often resist like the Kulaks did.

>>741259401
http://www.ksta.de/politik/verdacht-auf-volksverhetzung-grossrazzia-in-der-salafisten-szene-1645300

>>741230763
it will work next time and i continue to study worthless things and get paid as much as people in leadership positions that contribute to the bottom line

>>741239341
Grapes of Wrath depicted the starvation of Okie farmers due to soil depletion and lack of state intervention. Quite a strong argument against free markets.

>>741263138
full on gommunism is whats needed

>>741262799
They made maps of antartica with out ice, they called finland fin, from the word fine, or otherwise knows as grapes. that temperature for that area compares with 35k to 45k years ago.
They found a viking ship in america that was carbon dated to 24 thousand years ago.

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>>741262991
The only difference that the muslims were terror suspects simply treated as those who use hate speech and not meme edge lords larping as a nazi.

>>741233195
the great idea is lets support people who dont want to achieve, and punish those who do

and you wonder why all the people starved

>>741239341
Their car breaks down, they're forced to work for not enough money to feed themselves and they all starve to death in grapes of wrath...

Grapes of wrath is about the evil of capitalism

>>741235015
i know right communism is the best!

>>741239649
Now do one for capitalism

>>741230763
Marxism=/=Communism

>>741261651
4chan doesnt have a brand of communism

communism cannot exist without totalitarianism

>>741258556
>America isn't the least free country (aka with the most people in prison), only blacks are put into prison and that is cause they are blacks. Without blacks we would be like Belgium

Not sure if you count hispanics as white, but wouldn't change anything:

incarceration rate of
white americans: 450 per 100k
hispanic americans: 831 per 100k

incarceration rate of people in Belgium: 98 per 100k
incarceration rate of people in Luxembourg: 120 per 100k

separate the idea of communism and socialism, and socialism and capitalism. how about this. we spend money making sure every single person in this country has the education and the means to take part in our economy. that's a socialist program ensuring the success of a capitalist economy. allow everyone the opportunity to be healthy and you have more people that are able to contribute to the economy. put away your cold war era "RED IS DED" nonsense, and start looking at how creating a fully whole and healthy society is the best way to have a fully whole and healthy economy.

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>>741263632
capitalism hasnt been directly responsible for deaths unless it was by the hands of the jews, even then people are so fucking dumb the chose for it themselves.
Either way greed is unavoidable

>>741264064
No no no, that would mean taxing the banks and big business and thats BAD. Theyd all run away then we'd have no banks or business! Better leave it how it is, people expect too much these days anyway

>>741264316

why is it bad? you really think they'd leave? lol where would they go?

>>741237121
>I don't understand it and am to lazy to read up on it so I make stupid assumptions to justify my opinion
Try to look at this
"so the handicapt retard shall not intervene with the means of production then"
with this in mind
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

>>741264292
>capitalism hasn't been directly responsible for deaths

There go my sides

millions starve under capitalism too? idgi.

>>741264369

when an entire race is the subject of oppression for hundreds of years you would expect at some point many of them would have some problems, yeah? both mentally and physicaly? you really can't see how history has played a part in how people of color behave today? or do you only know how to look at the world through the lens of your lifetime?

>>741264410
Nah i was taking the piss m8. Obviously the banks and big business should pay their taxes. It would solve almost all of our problems. Shame our government is basically run on corpratism.

>>741264601

corpratism is a good word for it. the problem is we've let our governement become capitalistic, which is bad news for the people not shoveling money into their coffers. the government and the economy are not the same thing.

>>741264292
The US has killed 40 million people since WW2, not counting the people who died in the US due to capitalism.
But I guess it is the "when a muslim kills someone he did it cause he is muslim and when a christian kills someone he isn't a real christian" logic.

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>>741264579


IQ of offspring shifts towards the average for the race.
http://humanvarieties.org/2013/04/18/iq-regression-to-the-mean-the-genetic-prediction-vindicated/
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=BMXVZzvLXz8C&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false

Certain genes for large brains, linked to high IQ, are common everywhere except Africa.
http://www.amren.com/news/2006/06/scientists_stud/

Environment accounts for little or none of the USA racial IQ gap:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Transracial_Adoption_Study

In academic standardized testing , the wealthiest Black children underperform all but the poorest White children and just barely outperform even them.
http://www.jbhe.com/latest/index012209_p.html

Even when IQ is controlled for, Blacks display higher measurements of psychopathic personality than Whites:

http://www.amren.com/news/2008/08/race_and_psycho/

Violent crime correlates more tightly with race than with wealth or population density:
http://www.ronunz.org/2013/07/20/race-and-crime-in-america/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_income
http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/the-most-dangerous-states-in-the-u-s.html

Race is also more tightly correlated to homicide rate
http://www1.udel.edu/soc/faculty/parker/SOCI836_S08_files/Landetal_AJS90.pdf
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886912000840

>>741263695
Totalitarianism wont automaticly mean gulags, starvation and millions in death tolls like OP suggests. You don't need to make it into an enemy unless you automaticly see it as evil and a failing system.

>>741264579
My ancestors were oppressed by Romans, you don't see me behaving like a nigger.

>>741264774
>The US has killed 40 million people since WW2, not counting the people who died in the US due to capitalism.
What are you even talking about, 40 million killed by us not capitalism, we are talking communism socialism and capitalism, why the fuck are you bringing random numbers like 40 million died, like who wtf are yuo even talking about lassie?

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>>741264801
tell that to the 50 million Europeans from all nations in europe that got shipped to the gulags because Churchill didnt class them as prisoners of war.

meh thats just retarded. Communism according to marx never meant that the state owns everything. According to his version of communism there is no fucking state.

Marx also said that capitalism is a neccesary stage in the evolution of our society and that communism will follow in a pots scarcity scenario.

So basically what marx said had nothing to do with Leninism, who thought he could skip capitalism by force which is just a stupid thing and goes against anything Marx said.

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>>741261934
>>741261488
>1488
We're proud of you anon.

>>741264721
Yep. This was no mistake. Since the 70s wealth inequality has massivley increased with the removal of government controls on big business and controls on how businesses lobby for votes. Ask yourself why wages have stagnated but gdp steadily rises? Profits are rising but people are becomming poorer. This isn't progress

>>741264793

that photo is a little misleading, yeah? seems like a racist white person has come up with a set of photos/captions that perfectly encapsulate their idea of how different races act.

i took the time to read through some of your sources. i would recommend reading the mismeasure of man by stephen jay gould, if you can sit through something longer than an article.

>>741230763
What type of economy do you think would prevent anyone from starving?

>>741264793
Hey theres nigger koreans too. Havnt you seen gran tourino?

>>741230763

"lets try communism"
>CIA backed dictator takes power

"lets try again"
>CIA backed coup happens

"one more time"
>US embargo cripples the economy

LOL, ShOcIaLIsM fAailEd Xd

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>>741265518
>racist
Racism: inherent differences among the various human racial groups determine cultural or individual achievement

You have to be racist to even notice that the person making that photo caption is white.
You are racist for saying and identifying some one as white

>>741264914
Lmao what do you think the usa is invading all those places for? Please don't tell me you thought it was to "secure freedom for the natives" and "protecting democracy"

>>741265695
>implying the cia isnt controlled by the jews.
>implying the cia doesnt fucks with capitalisms

>>741265037
>communism is automaticly evil because people died in a failed form of an economical system
>same happened with capitalism
>hurdurdur that's completely unfair, capitalism is an economical system and should not be judged by the persons who have practiced it. It's not fair to hold the system I support under the same judgement I hold other systems because I am special
>"4chan doesn't have a brand of communism"

>>741265759
prior to ww2, like which places? i can recall the Barbary wars the states were involved in. kicking muslim ass as they keep slaving ppl from all over the word.

>>741265747
Lol why is arab lumped together with hispanics? Oh yeah because then whites wouldn't be the minority

>>741264841

yeah because it's the same situation

>>741265423

#thanksreagan

>>741265618
>how would you think that ppl would fair when there are no regulations enforced on poison toxin dumps

Basically there is also no money, so there is no incentive to poison the environment,
And even if someone would do this other people could still refuse to cooperate with them.

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>>741265872
Why are you implying im pro capitalism, could you not be blue pilled for like 15 secs

This guy on the right, his family funded the Bolshevik revolution, mkay

>>741264841
>cries on 4chan about the treatment of his long forgotten ancestors
>"i don't behave like a nigger"

>>741265747

you forgot the definition before the one you posted

Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

racism is tied to power. white people have power in this country that others do not. you make these bold claims because you have the privilege to do so without being harmed. your memes are not as convincing as years of sociological studies.

>>741265918
The post said post ww2. And the list is large. Just google "post ww2 USA invasions" if you spend 10 minutes researching it, you'll see how lethal capitalism is.

>>741265759

i agree. the US doesn't put democracies in place. the US puts capitalist societies in place so they have someone to trade with.

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>>741264440
taking a quotation out of context

>>741266159
But they would cooperate with them because they make a lot of money and their mate runs all the newspapers so no ones even going to know they're poisoning the enviroment

>>741266164
Playing the jewish conspiracy meme
>not an argument
>also not posting proof

>>741266329
>But they would cooperate with them because they make a lot of money and

I just said that there is no money in communism. It doesnt exist.
Thats like the whole point of this.

>>741266261
Yeah hence the millions of people killed due to capitalism. The democracies put in place always fucking suck and are corrupt to shit too. The death and misery ripple out for generations

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>>741264579
1400 years of muslims slavery and shitskins raping every little village that they out numbered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
seem like that what 120 years of slavery in america isnt that bad, considering they were treated better then they were in africa.

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>>741264801
the kind you need in a communist or socialist society does mean those things

why do you think we have iphones and 200 kinds of breakfast cereal why do some people not have to work? why are things still relatively cheap?

because people love money people ARE greedy

Why are they greedy? dna protects itself - its that simple people are greedy bc they want their kids to live a better life what other reason could you point to as the single cause for greed - television and movies make you think the greedy people are greedy bc they are evil - essentially. cigar smoking pragmatists with no faith in god or regard for humanity

fuck all that

without much exception the world runs because people want to see a smile on their children's face and have a thought like, "oh that will be nice for jake tomorrow he will probably like that" before they go to sleep

when you tell people they cannot make their childrens lives better you take away literally the last true right a person has - you just cannot do this, you cant, it breaks a person it breaks society

and all of a sudden milk cost a dollar more

then some how milk has gone to 6 dollars a gallon

then what?

who is going to work 12 hour days and never see the smiles on their kids faces? leaving before they are up and getting home when they are eating dinner? who is going to think of a new way to design a tool or the factory - strive for that raise? normally this would be done because you were sacrificing your self your time your effort ...but now?

>>741266443
Yeah fair enough, I'm retarded

>>741266674
yes there are inventors but i would dare say in the last 100 years more then half if not most of the significant "inventions" that a normal person is able to make use of are available because of greed

bell laboratories and the transistor comes to mind in all practical senses a monopoly - investing in LONG term research because they are nintendo float with cash


>you cant force people to work or strive for essentially nothing WITHOUT the gulag you propose

>you can bribe them to work themselves to death if it means that their kids get to live in a bigger house with a bigger bank account

>this is why we all have nice things

ancap > all other ideologies

>>741266205
lol china spain hawai and russia, doesnt even comes close to 40 million deaths. lying sack of horse manure

>>741266674

this was a lot of word vomit. i will say there are millions of people that ARE being told they cannot make their children's lives better. if you believe all people should have those rights, i think what you're looking for is communism.

>>741266704
also if you read marx or the communist manifesto they are basically making the exact point you are making. Capitalism incentivizes stuff like misstreating your workers or poisoning the river.
The early communists wanted nothing more than what you describe: Regulation to tame capitalism. Because to them the transition to communism was inevitable, they just want to smoothen the ride by having regulations (like workers rights environmental protection etc.)

Then the leninists came and said "we have to transform the society into communism, by force" which is a completely different line of thought.

>>741266431
Stop being a dumb ass
http://humansarefree.com/2013/11/complete-list-of-banks-ownedcontrolled.html

>>741266934
Erm Vietnam? Middle east? Korea?

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations

Here you go m8, dont know what you were looking at but its millions of people dead so they can secure natural resources

>>741266470
>Yeah hence the millions of people killed due to capitalism
did capitalism say, turn all the grain that is food for the people in to vodka so we can turn the rest of the population in to alcoholics for generations to come.
Because communism did that.

>>741267071
thats a very general statement, why do you think people feel this way? are you implying people are worried about having rights?

>>741266674

to say "people are greedy because DNA protects itself" removes all responsibility from people to make good decisions. it's a cop out. we're past that now, we're not fucking cave men.

>>741230763
Let's try capitalism!
Bubble bursts
Millions starve around the world
Repeat every 5-10 years

>>741267280
Not sure what your argument here is? Pretty sure turning potatoes into vodka isnt a fundamental point of communism. And as others have said leninism is retarded and destined to fail

>>741267203

you literally have to point out the wikipedia page to this person, they're clearly not researched lol.

>>741267329
Because we suddenly lost instinct. lol, that is what you jews want.
Docile sheep with out instinct believing bullshit
Cave men where smarter then homosapient. the whole reason why whites and asians have high iq`s is because of interbreeding with the larger brained cavemen that where able to sustain thousands of years of evolution in a much harsher climate then europe is now.

>>741267286

yeah. tons of people are worried about having rights. if you're not, congratulations, you must be affluent and white.

>>741234645
Nah we chillin here. Life's good here. Keep your shit south

>>741267545

can i see some sources on those claims? specifically about it being what the "jews" want.

>>741267329
its not even a cop out we even rationalize this line of thinking

there have been many court cases where sentences have been extremely lenient and a portion of overall charges droped because it was the role of a parents rage over someone harming their child that caused them to take action

this isnt even something that is deep below the surface our entire society accepts this and we run on it every day

we are cave men you fuckin idiot

we dont have a digital processor with objective programing

your a god damn monkey and if you think otherwise your a STUPID one

objectively viewing reality without the use of a human brain is not something you or i or anyone alive can comprehend or even begen to apply attributes to. color, sound, smell, its all a figment of your brain the same way your consciousness is. people go crazy because the brain is delicate, it is churning away at 100% all day every day. everything has to be working as your DNA built it precisely or else your fucked. think about it a bump on the head can make you not a person anymore your just a vege that for some reason cant produce consciousness everything is subjective, most things are hormones, people are controlled by their DNA.

dont think so try to stop eating sleeping drinking breathing and see how that works out for you see how your consciousness is altered until you a "noncaveman" bend to the will of your dna

>>741267552
lol, what is this for retard comment, you race baiting shitskin

>>741267970

did you read this somewhere? i'd love to have your insight. could you recommend a few books on the topic that i could peruse?

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>>741262629
Bullshit. Almost everything in Venezuela is imported, and with the exchange control only a few (usually friend of the gob officials) companies get $ to import. That is the reason of the shortages.

>>741268203

lolol. so you are affluent and white? i seem to have struck a nerve. i'm white, but i've met enough people and read enough books that challenged my way of thinking and didn't just suck my opinion's dick. but yeah, calling me a retard and a race baiting shitskin is a really good response and probably the best argument for what i said.

The principle of Communism is strong on paper,
but in practice human desires outweigh practical survival.

All that Marx proved was that people are inherently greedy, and that Nietzsche was right - people will never settle for being merely equal.

>>741235194
Kek more progress was made under 7 years of fascism than 70 years of communism.

>>741235940
Can i live of your bank account bro? It what Marx did and endorces. You are not a real marxist if you don't let people live of the back of your hard work.
If i had a patsy paying my way in life i would also write a book on how capitalism is evil.

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<---- is what communism is.

>>741268469

that's an interpretation, and certainly an angry one

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>>741267203
lol, each of those started with a false flag, vietnam caused a massive commie uprising.
ME, lol

If this boat had been sunk the planes on stand by on US air carriers would have launched a all out invasion in to Egypt.

Instead they destabilized the country with a demographic invasion of muslim arabs.

>>741268638
>interpretation
No it is called the truth. He lived on the back of his friend. I am just saying i would be a lazy faggot who writes nonsense if i had a fall guy paying for my shit.

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>>741268219
i literally just wrote this shit out but just google subjective vs objective it seems like that would be a good place to start, maybe solipsism

a grass is made from dna
your brain is made from dna

its all structured none of it is an accident, yes the brain itself has an extreme ability to adapt and vary its perceptions, if your blind you can see with a device that pokes you with a lot of studs, in the form of a picture. your brain will eventually learn that this is a picture and it will make it into a form of vision. saw one guy had the thing that pokes pictures onto his skin was on his tounge still worked. you can wear glasses that flip your vision upside down, after about a week of wearing them constantly your brain will flip your vision back the correct direction and you will see normally with the glasses on.

you were JUST a monkey your def still a caveman, objective perception of reality? give me a break. this is why science exists, to cut the monkey out of things and figure out what is really

>>741268331
If you are white, you dont have rights.
Europeans are getting jailed up to 5 years because they dont have freedom of speech.
Americans pay 300k in a life because others are more entitled then whites.
Whites have no rights that allows them to get in to education with out the credentials for it.

Struck a nerve? You are to dense to even know what a nerve is.

>>741267144
Posting random website
Fake news

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>>741268669
Ironically they picked the ship named liberty to sink.

Fucking jews and their symbolism