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>Adult wanted to kill himself >Had tried many times before

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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>Adult wanted to kill himself
>Had tried many times before
>Keeps telling this to an underaged girl on anti depressants for some reason
>She tells him to get help, see the same psychiatrist she went to etc.
>He refuses, wants to die too bad
>Tries to get this girl to die with him in a Romeo and Juliet style because he's a psychopath
>After months of convincing, she agrees with his decision as it appears it's the only way for him
>Starts telling him to
>One time she tells him if doesn't want to anymore that she will get him help, he refuses again
>Eventually he kills himself
>She's blamed and has to go to jail for over a year (if she loses the appeal)

Please explain how this is fair and how she's not the real victim in all this?
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>>741045851
She maid her bed, and now she has to sleep in it
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>>741045907
>maid

Made

- a Dutch person.
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>>741045907
>maid
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>>741045851
And another spam thread to enter ze filter!
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The witch hunt and story she is a psychopath who wanted to kill just for the attention and sympathy is only pushed out by the media. That isn't the story that played out in court and the sentence reflects that. Shes unlikely to see any prison time in the end and it actually seems like kind of a win for justice. Especially as this story is coming out of America whos justice system is generally fucking awful in every way
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>>741045953
>>741045975

Don't make fun of me I didn't use spell check
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If you're a mob boss and all you do is sit around in your fancy house and tell other people to commit crimes, do you think you could argue that you should not be held responsible for those crimes? Using a human proxy should not protect you from the law. Therefore if you tell someone to do something illegal and they do it, you should be held responsible. A mob boss wouldn't be able to argue that "those people had already been committing crimes and probably would have kept doing that even if they hadn't met me".
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So manson should be free too right, he didnt do anything he jus said some words and sum crazy ppl did the stuff. She only got like two years who cares thats pussy shit I did more for posession. shes gonna do like 6 months inside prolly alrdy has time served
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>>741046258
>>741046353
Murder is a crime. Telling someone to commit a crime is incitement and a crime. Suicide is not a crime. Also in that case, there would be a victim, the person murdered against their will, in this, there is no victim as he made the decision to kill himself. No victim, no crime.
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She literally posted about him on Facebook saying he was missing. For attention. She knew where he was the whole time. She basically posted about how he was dead before he ever was. She made him do it so she wouldn't be called a liar. Good fucking ridence. I hope she ends up killing herself.
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She's beautiful as fuckkkkkk
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>>741046443
Ethically maybe. But in Burgerland, suicide IS a crime. That's how police are allowed to intervene.
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>>741045851
fuck off with this thread
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15 momths cake walk
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>>741046353
She got 15 months, if she loses the appeal, which is too much for not committing any crime or doing anything wrong.
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>>741045851Calm down, you must have taken something. Relax, take a deep breath. Now tell me, what is your name? Cunt where do you come from? Cunt Your mother's name? Cunt what do you want? Cunt
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>>741046443 https://nobullying.com/is-suicide-illegal/
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>>741046523
No suicide is not a crime anywhere in the US.
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>>741045953
A maid made a bed. It could easily be a pun, although it appears not.

- An English person.
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>>741046577
See>>741046574
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>>741046574
>Today there is no state in which it is illegal to attempt suicide with the exception of those instances where another life is put in danger by the attempt.
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>>741046443
What about jonestown? You can convince hundreds of people to kill themselves through pressure and brainwashing. ISIS leaders convincing mental people to blow themselves up?
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>>741046447
She did it so she wouldn't be blamed for his disappearance. She didn't make him do anything, he chose to do it.
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>>741046534
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>>741045851
Here we fucking go again.
Your waifu goes to jail, bruh. There is nothing you can do.
>>741045907
Hello, faggot. It is nice that you didn't forget about me.
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>>741045851
>purposely misrepresenting the situation to cause controversy
the b8s okey i guess
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>>741046245
Spell check wouldn't have told you that you used the wrong word, only that you misspelled the correct one. You spelled maid correctly.

Today I had ocean for breakfast.
>I didn't use spell check either
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>>741047089
There is no misrepresentation of information. Everything posted there is the facts of the case.
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>>741047118
no maid is actually correct its old enlgish
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>>741047132
>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
>Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.
Even if OP wasn't white knighting for his gal, saying what you said would be a stretch.
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>>741047132
>agrees with his decision
>She constantly got irritated because he changed his mind about killing himself.
>She told him how exactly to kill himself.
>This is considered involuntary manslaughter

ye she innocent
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>>741047253
What? I said that what's posted in the OP is fact.
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I could understand not jailing her if it had been a few messages.
Apparently she sent hundreds telling this guy to off himself.
Let her rot.
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>>741047153
And I trust your use of the English language why?
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>>741047003
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>>741047381
omg jailing som1 4 saying words lol
thanks north korea
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>>741046245
>i didn't use spell i check

i don't need spell check to not be fucking retarded
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>>741047271
Yes she agreed with his decision to kill himself. Did you not read anything about the case. Even if he changed his mind later, she still agreed with his decision in the past, so that is not false. There is nothing wrong with telling someone how to kill themselves, or else tons of websites need to shut down for providing that information. What she did was not involuntary manslaughter or any crime at all.
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>>741047447
because i'm right. maid comes from the old english oldemadin, meaning old maid. this was used when someone maid someone do something that a maid would do.
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>>741047506
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>>741046499
kek shed laff at how pathetic you are and probably get you to kys too. also shes not even that hot she has a man face
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>>741047449
I know you don't.
>>741047132
You can misrepresent the argument simply by not mentioning that she encouraged him to kill himself when he was having second thoughts, right in the act. It is quite a valuable point to the case.
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>>741047381
Doesn't matter how many times she said it.
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>>741045907
how the fuck do you not know how to spell the word 'made'

>>741046245
how the fuck do you need a spellchecker to know how to spell the word 'made'
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>>741047551
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>>741047515
i didn't say there was anything wrong with her telling him how to kill himself but it is illegal when they kill themselves. assisted suicide isn't legal in this case, and counts as involuntary manslaughter.

you apparently didn't read anything about the case. yes he was changing his mind and she told him to go through with it anyway, directly affecting his decision. whether you like it or not, this is illegal and is involuntary manslaughter. you can keep saying it isn't but that doesn't make you correct.
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>>741047674
ye not an argument kid
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what's wrong with her fucking head
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>>741047714
Wasn't an argument. Just an observation.
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>>741047767
She was born with fetal alcohol syndrome which the judge overlooked, despite the fact that it can cause her to do things like this. A small part of justice died the day she was sentenced.
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>>741047799
with no evidence backing it up
your a joke
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>>741047841
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>>741047638
I said "she starts telling him to (kill himself)". There was no misrepresentation of information.
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>>741045851
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>>741047893
once again not an argument
back the fuck up b4 you get smacked the fuck up
bitch
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>>741045851
>told him to get back in the car
your argument is invalid
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Stop posting this fucking thread holy shit bro
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>>741047627
Bitch your mom has a man face, fuck out of here with that shit.
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>>741047682
His decision was his own. He would not be dead without his own decision to kill himself. Therefore what she did was not manslaughter.
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>>741047841
>your a joke
>your

Just a quick question... i'm wondering if you have ever considered that perhaps, just maybe, you're the retard in the room?
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>>741047922
This phrase is misrepresentation.
Without omitting what happened and what evidence was used in a court, correct representation would be
>She extensively helped him to commit suicide, urging him to do it even when he had thoughts of backing out of it, and abusing him so he won't.
But if you put this in the original post this wouldn't be baity enough, would it.
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>>741047958
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>>741045851
She is not an expert who deals with psychological patients or understands what attrntion suicidal person needs. He would probably be alive if it wasn't for her, she's closed minded and a terrible friend.
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>>741048105
That is your "common sense" logic, not the one used in court apparently.
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I wish she would get longer tbh
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>>741048176
No that would be false information. Because she did not help commit suicide at all. He did everything and bought everything. She just told him to kill himself. And she never "abused" him.
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>>741048176
what a stupid thing to say
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>>741046812
Alot of the people there didnt want to drink. They forced the children to drink
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>>741048254
Yes the judge was wrong and hopefully the appeal is successful.
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>>741048105
that's cool kid. it doesn't make it legal.
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>>741048078
Did I strike a nerve, pussy? Go fap to her pics and cry after you cum knowing it's her manly features you're attracted to.
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>>741048216
ye thats what i thought u aint got shit
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>>741048158
funny your the one that cant present evidence loser
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>>741046353
>ran a cult with underage girls
>trespassed and stole
>fired unregistered guns
>probably a draft dodger
>distributed illegal narcotics
>used lsd to brain wash
wot?
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>>741048225
She's not a terrible friend, she only did what she thought was best for him. At first she told him to get help, because she thought that was best for him, and then later when he convinced her that death was best for him, she supported him in that too. He was a terrible "friend" though, he was trying to get her to kill herself with him and even talking to her about his suicidal thoughts is pretty messed up for an adult to do to a child.
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>>741048531
1) i'm not that other fag

2) >your

3) kill yourself
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>>741048480
Yes it does.
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>>741048589
>yourself
>your
kek and im the dumn 1
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worst thing about her going to prison is no nude leaks anytime soon (when she's legal)

smh
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>>741048612
how does it make it legal go ahead and tell me
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>>741046443
Suicide idea crime, there is a victim. Those who commit suicide are victims of their own mental instability. She should have called mental ward and had him locked up, or called emergency when he was going to do it. In all eyes of the law she is guilty, and you don't know shit about the law. You fucking retard.
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>>741048646
It's explained right in the post.
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>>741048370
Now you are just lying. This one is about helping.
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>>741045851
The only reason youbgive too much fuck about her is because she is what faggot losers such as yourself would consider pretty and shit. Grow the fuck up....crime is a crime.
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>>741048679
that's what i thought, you have no reason for your statement. what she did was textbook involuntary manslaughter. also she was found guilty so get over it
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>>741048370
>>741048696
And this one about abuse.
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>>741048660
No she shouldn't have, it's his right to kill himself, it's his life and body. And there is no law telling her she should have either, or else those guys watching that guy drown would have faced punishment. But I'm just talking about morally you shouldn't be trying to physically stop someone from doing what they want with their body. And there is no victim, you're not a victim if you want what came to you. Thats like saying you're a victim when you choose to spend or burn your own money. No you're only a victim when someone steals from your against your will.
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>>741048660
>guy talks about offing himself
>doesn't
>keeps bothering other person with "I'm gonna doooo eeeiiitt"
>the other person stops caring
>tells the person do what ever
>offs himself finally
>shit storm
knew too many people like this, a ward won't help. Not sure why the news is fixated on her.
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>>741048384
Not more stupid that what you just said. Your point being?
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>>741048696
>>741048802

No, you're full of shit. I don't fucking believe you. These don't count because they're just words and words aren't illegal.
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>>741048832
my point is that your stupid
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>>741048575
Her 17
Him 18
>Adult vs child
Get the fuck outta here nergin they were both children
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>>741048834
>These don't count because they're just words and words aren't illegal
Shhh anon. It is going to be all right.
Not for her, but for you.
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>>741048696
Giving someone information about how to commit suicide, is not "helping" or assisting them in any relevant illegal way. Or else all the websites that tell people how to do it need to be shut down.
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>>741048916
Ad hominem.
Nice point, brah. We used to argue like this back in preschool. Nice to see that for some people that is still a staple of thought and conversation.
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>>741046258
What about free will? If I post here that Trump should kill all nignogs and he actually does, would I get all the credit for it?
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>>741048802
Thats not abuse. Even if you believe cyber bullying is real, that wouldn't be it. Cyber bullying or "abuse" would be insults.
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>>741048951
http://codes.findlaw.com/ny/penal-law/pen-sect-125-15.html

Here, now you can stop talking.
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>>741049016
you can try to run from the facts and call adhom,... but, you don't need a fucking SPELL CHECKER to spell the word MADE correctly

ps fuck you and die, retard
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>>741046577
You're fucking retarded
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>>741049072
Abuse goes beyond simple insults, Anon. It seems to me that you've not had any education in psychology, nor have you ever experienced emotional abuse. I'm quite thankful for the latter. Regardless, your understanding of what cyberbullying is, is severely lacking. Of course, the only exposure you've probably had was that twitter meme, so I can't completely blame you.
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>>741048951
>Giving someone information about how to commit suicide, is not "helping" or assisting them in any relevant illegal way.
Says who? You? Because you feel like it? Or you gonna back up that claim with actual evidence?
Seeing how this was taken from a transcript of hearings it makes this information pretty relevant to me.
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>>741049155
fuck off and dye*
moran
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>>741048951
Yes, the system is fucked, but NO you're wrong, it is illegal, because the system is fucked.

Hope that helps
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>>741049096
>new york

This was in Massachusetts, irrelevant law. Also she didn't cause him to commit suicide, that would be threatening someone into doing it. He just chose to do it.
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>>741045851

What is the deal with her eyebrows?
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>>741048809
This isn't a case of morality, it's a case of law. Yes, it's against the law to commit suicide. In the United States of America it is against the law to kill yourself.
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>>741045907
it's "made" you fucking spastic
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>>741045851
its not fair, but shes not a victim
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>>741049208
Emotional abuse is not telling someone to do the thing they've been telling you they want to do for months.
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>>741049155
Keep being mad, bruh. Your hate feeds me.
>>741049072
I don't believe cyber bullying is a real concern, but it has nothing to do with this case.
Pressuring a person into researching on the ways to end his life and "not procrastinating" is abuse. If it is not, what is?
And don't feed me crap about "abuse" only means "physical abuse". It isn't.
I seriously don't know how much blinder to the facts can you be.
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>>741049228
I gave a clear example of how that makes no sense. All the websites giving the information would then be illegal if it was illegal to give that information to people. It is clearly not illegal.
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>>741049298
https://www.bostoncriminallawyer.com/involuntary-manslaughter.html

Here, again. Manslaughter is still a crime in Mass. Nice try, though.
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>>741049356
No it isn't. It's not illegal anywhere in the US to kill yourself.
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>>741049452
That's some okay bait, I guess. It might work on Facebook.
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>>741049481
I've been telling people that I believe she wasn't charged appropriately. Manslaughter is one thing, "abuse" is sort of a catchall that doesn't really specify anything. The crime that she commit, I believe, is a form of menacing, a misdemeanor in all states, as far as I know. She was certainly a menace, both to him, and his family. That charge exists for that reason, making an example out of her with a charge and punishment that is not accurate to her actions was inappropriate and unjust. In my opinion, that is.
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>>741049533
Legislation in the internet is a difficult thing, but, for example, in my country those sites are actually illegal, and have to be removed or blocked by local ISP if reported to the authorities. What now?
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>>741049542
Yes manslaughter is a crime everywhere, but she didn't commit manslaughter. But I was replying specifically to that NY definition of manslaughter and how she didn't do that either.
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>>741045851
We are now liable for the stupidity of others. I want off this planet
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>>741049569
There might be some leftover laws that probably don't get enforced. It was illegal at one time, for whatever that's worth.
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>>741049658
Doesn't America have a precedent system, with adjudication evolving and changing through it? Judge put in the corner stone.
Also,assisted suicide is a separate legal entity entirely, and I believe that this is exactly the point of that process.
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>>741049703
Number 3, bud. Regardless of your feelings on the matter, it was illegal.
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>>741046812
Have you ever heard the tapes from Jonestown? There was no convincing, just forcing.
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>>741049481
Non-physical abuse would be insults. Telling him to kill himself is not abuse, especially so when she was only repeating to him what he had been saying to her for months.
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>>741049597
There is no bait.
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>>741049798
In some states, assisted suicide can be considered manslaughter in the second degree.
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>>741047449
That pic sucks, the gif is so much better.
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>>741049673
Your country isn't america. Here they aren't illegal. Same as what she did.
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>>741049871
Denying that it is bait is an okay tactic as well. Keep it up, and I'm sure you'll be baiting everyone in no time. :)
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>>741049821
There is literally a wikipedia article on psychological abuse. With tons of research papers backing it up. I suggest you read it and educate yourself. Then we can discuss why "Telling him to kill himself is not abuse".
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>>741049481
>My point is that you're stupid
>hur dur - Ad hominem
>My evidece is that you don't know how to spell "made" without "spellcheck"
>Hur dur - you're mad bro, I don't actually have an argument

Checkmate.
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>>741049801
He caused his own death, not her. So number 3 does not apply to her and what she did was not illegal.
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>>741049924
Then see here
>>741049798
Do you expect laws to stay the same forever?
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>>741049975
But there was no bait.
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>>741048012
>told him to get back in car

And....?
Could have said no..
Could have hung up...
Could have walked away..
He CHOSE to listen to her, we are responsible for our own choices.

A very dangerous precedent was set with this fiasco.
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so if some Anon on 4chang (you)'s someone a friendly "kys" and that someone actually does it (the absolute madman) then Anon would be guilty and have to go to jail?


if you read this please KYS. oh and on your way down, do a flip, faggot.
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>>741050032
You don't seem to understand what manslaughter is. If she had intent to kill him, and directly caused it, it would be murder.

Look up the definition of murder v manslaughter, and then come talk to me.
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>>741049998
Don't need to read any papers to know that you're not abusing someone by telling them to do what they've been saying themselves they're going to do/want to do for months.
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>4chan defends puss they will never get
>this is as bad as the teens calling the Boston bombers cute.
this isn't weaponized autism anymore this is self harm autism
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>>741050031
You don't know what ad hominem is, don't you?
I consider you being fixated on my typo's actually a good sign - it means that my arguments are so ironclad, this is the only thing you could find being wrong with them for couple of hours.
Seeing how fixated you are, that is not from lack of effort too.
Knowing how dumb you are, it isn't saying much, but it is still better than nothing.
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>>741050085
Yes, a constant denial is a good way to bait. You're probably going to be a great baiter one day. Seems like I don't need to give you any more tips. My job here is done.
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>>741050073
Don't know all I know is it isn't illegal now or when she did it.
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Anyone defending this sociopath is simply a useless virgin cunt (this is /b after all ...).
She's a piece of shit at best. 15 months is a joke, should have gotten 10 years at the very least. If i was part of the guy's family i would relentlessly harass her or kill her.
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>>741049337
She has Kara delevingne syndrome.
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>>741050224
Is this a reverse adhom? Strange.
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>>741050196
nobody cares about the stupid slut. it's about the right to tell someone to stop being a faggot and end their fucking life.

this happens every second on this board and you want it to be illegal? please delete yourself.
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>>741050194
>Don't need to read any papers to know
You lost me here, bruh.
I don't care about preconceptions. I have my own, you have yours. Only way to reach any meaningful form of dialog is through research, logic, and examination. Not through "I think so, therefore it is so".
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>>741045851
>defending a literal attentionwhore
Disgusting tbh, she got off easy. .
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>>741047153
Nigger shut the fuck up ain't nobody talking olde English ever, it's 2020-3
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>>741050276
Man, how the fuck do you live in a country and don't know how legal system works?
You will, sooner or later, have to encounter it in your everyday life.
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>>741050194
Kid, that isn't the definition of abuse. If a parent told their child, that lacked self-esteem, that they were worthless scum and the world would be better off without them, that doesn't absolve the parent of the crime of emotional abuse.

It doesn't matter if the person feels like shit to begin with, abuse is still abuse, whether or not you say it to yourself. You're probably the type that agrees with the abused spouse mentality, you poor bastard.
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>>741045851
>tfw no cute gf that pushes you into suicide when you're to weak to pull it off yourself
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>>741050187
All forms of manslaughter involve causing someone's death. He caused himself to die, therefore she did not commit manslaughter.
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>>741050477
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>>741050314
She was sentenced to 2.5 years, but most of that was suspended. Still, a little over a year in prison isn't nothing, so be glad she got that.
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>>741050427
>would of

15 months aren't enough
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>>741050396
Abuse is a simple word, to know it's definition all you have to do is look it up in a dictionary. I already know it's definition however, and know that that's not abuse.
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>>741050314
10 years is too much. I understand the blood-lust, but this is too fucking much. Maybe in a couple of years she will understand what she has done wrong, and will grow into actually decent person. It would be a shame for this person to come out of prison in her thirties.
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>>741045851
Listen, I feel ya. Dangerous precedent. But, she was his gf and he was 18. An adult, sure, but if that's not his 50th relationship then she will have emotional pull in his life. The issue here is that she had the ability to inform police, tell family, et cetera. Read the definition of involuntary manslaughter...this isn't a murder conviction.
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>>741050437
>replying to the obvious bait
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>>741050468
I already said that insults are abuse, which is what your example is, but she did not insult him. What she did was not abuse.
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>>741050622
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep well, bruh.
As I said, you have your own preconceptions, I have mine.
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>>741050427
She's a cunt, but this article is reporting things that are objectively false. He was not murdered.
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>>741050462
I know the law.
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>>741050535
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>>741050739
But your preconception is wrong.
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>>741050818
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>>741050683
I'm about 95% you're trolling me right now. I desperately want to believe that someone cannot be this dense.

You would have a point if he wanted to dance, and she urged him to do so. You do not have a point seeing as what he wanted to do was to kill himself. This is illegal and abusive, whether you agree with it or not.
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>>741050818
>LMAO

lmao
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>>741050882
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>>741050880
>>741050880
No, it isn't. Yours is.
See how easy it is?
That is why I am not wasting any more time with this line of thinking.
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>>741050314
How is she a piece of shit. She tried to get him not to do it, he refused, convinced her it was best for him and so then she supported his decision. She would only be a piece of shit if she felt what she was doing was selfish or not for his benefit. Also 15 months, if the appeal fails, is way too long for someone who didn't commit any crime.
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>>741051062
>She would only be a piece of shit if she felt what she was doing was selfish or not for his benefit.
Really? You don't say...
It is not like she was not enjoying all the attention she got, and even earned a quick buck...Oh wait.
>>741050535
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>>741051062
>She would only be a piece of shit if she felt what she was doing was selfish
She literally drove him to suicide, despite his second thoughts about it on multiple occasions, all so she could get likes on social media. This bitch is the epitome of an attentionwhore. Worse than a piece of shit, no sane person could possibly defend her. In other words, you are insane.
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>>741050885
No it is not illegal and it is not abusive. There is no abuse in telling someone to do what they themselves have said they wanted to do for months. And it's not illegal to tell someone to kill themselves.
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>>741050995
>no u!
>see how easy that is?
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>>741051062
she pushed him into it when he changed his mind. if it wasn't for her actions he'd be alive.

you say she just supported him but what the fuck is up with those tweets? fundraisers? end suicides? she literally pushed him into his suicide to get rid of this whiny bitch and get some attention out of it.

psychobitch should be locked up for a while.
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>>741051286
Do you imply it was difficult or something?
It wasn't, really.
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>>741051361
No I'm implying you're a moron. I thought it would be obvious, but I guess I forgot you are a moron.
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>>741051414
Oh, you again.
Keep on keeping on. Time twelve thousand is going to work, sure.
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>>741051189
Wrong she did it because he convinced her it was best for him. This is clear from what she said she told him "if this is the only way you think you're gonna be happy" and she told her friend after his death "I couldn't have him go on living how he was living anymore". Also based on the fact that she originally told him to get help, clearly shows everything she did was only for his benefit.
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>>741051493
>Oh, you again.
Nope, this is the first time I'm saying anything to you. I guess I'm not the only one who recognizes a moron when I see one on here.
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>>741051248
Telling someone to kill themselves is abusive. I'm sorry you've been so hurt that you've gone numb, but some of us haven't. As I said, that only applies to things that aren't suicide, murder, etc.

Also, for what it is worth, there have been several cases of people getting into trouble because they told someone to kill themselves.
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>>741051189
this guy is right but so is he >>741051248

immoral but not illegal. if it was illegal for women to drive men into suicide we'd have to build a thousand more prisons.
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>>741051587
If you really believe this then you should kys.
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>>741045851
I'd still smash
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>>741051523
Wrong, she did it because she knew she was gonna get pity from losers like you. This is very obvious from the tweets she's sending out right after he passed, and from her asking him to delete the conversation, this proves she knew perfectly well what she was doing was wrong, but her thirst for attention was stronger.
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>>741051152
He convinced her that death was the best option for him. Yes she wanted to die because of that, but for his benefit. Does that mean she can't be sad about his death? If you have to kill your mother because she's in great pain, are you not allowed to be sad about it since in the end you wanted her dead?
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>>741051523
So you are just taking her words at face value?
Nah, bro, it isn't how it works.
People rarely admit to crimes, and to being assholes.
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>>741051667
She needs a diff hairdo though, that style just highlights that 7head
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>>741051587
>>741051644
if you actually kill yourself now and blame this guy in your suicide note you'd win this internet argument. just saying.
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>>741051610
>not illegal
Funny, the judge ruled otherwise. You seem to be wrong.
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>>741051523
If you honestly believe that he convinced her that it was best for him, then you're fucking delusional. How exactly do you explain her getting angry whenever he was uncertain as to whether or not he wanted to commit suicide? If she was so easily manipulated, as you imply, she would go along with whatever he wanted, not urge him to kill himself several times after he expressed doubts.
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>>741051727
Lel
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>>741051644
>>741051727
kekky wekky mein friendos
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>>741051356
If it wasn't for his own actions, he'd still be alive. She didn't want him to commit suicide, she told him many times, he eventually convinced her it was the only way for him, but does that mean she can't dislike suicides? If she didn't dislike suicides she wouldn't have told him not to do it for months. Why would she be locked up for not doing anything wrong?
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>>741051704
>You have to do it now
>Stop pushing it back
>Get back in the car
>Why did this have to happen?
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>>741051569
Yeah, right. Fun fact, even if by chance you are telling the truth - you are as stupid as a person I originally thought you are.
Which is very improbable - such stupidity is really rare. You are just obsessive hopeless retard, and your stupidity shows, therefore I won't mistake you for anyone in the world.
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>>741051821
Kek, delusional neckbeards BTFO because of your post
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>>741051587
No it's not. Kill yourself. Especially so when that person has said that's they're going to do. And I don't know about cases telling people to kill themselves but that has nothing to do with whether it's "abusive" or not.
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>>741050390
you got pretty mad over a small comment.
so by 4chan logic you are the whining the most about the grill and the puss you will never get.
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>>741051742
Because judges are all knowing all seeing gods right?
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>>741051866
>Yeah right, everybody is wrong but I sure can't be!
Typical moron delusions.
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>>741051915
Keep telling yourself that, I'm sure it'll be true some day. :)
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>>741051942
No they judge the law. Whether something is illegal or not is something a judge decides. Are you really this dumb or just pretending?
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>>741046177
There were mant other ways to go about it, if someone asks me to perform brain surgery, i say, "idk lol"

She should have said "idk lol" and she wouldn't be part of the chatade, but since she took it upon herself, i think she kinda fucked up, and the texts she sent were basically fucking haunting
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>>741051942
Because random neckbeards on 4chan are all knowing, all seeing gods, right?
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>>741045851
https://youtu.be/Qt2r3zDufcQ
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>>741051687
Asking him to delete the texts does not prove she thought what she was doing was wrong. It just means she thought other people might think what she did was wrong. If I save someone from an arranged marriage, and I don't tell their family, that doesn't mean I think what I did was wrong, it just means I think other people will think that and I don't want to get in trouble.
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>>741051993
haha i am pretand
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>>741051704
I won't run fundraisers if my mom dies, that is for sure.
And when something bad happens to someone, and you just happen to gain a profit from it - it is called a conflict of interests. Gray zone,for sure, but careful examination is required to determine guilt or innocence there.
In this case, texts that she sent him implied that she was determined to make him kill himself, not to help him. No matter the reason, this is illegal.
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>>741052048
lol r u shareblue by any chance
hillshill
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>>741052048
>It's not wrong, I just know the entire world would disagree with me and probably put me on trial for it.
uhuh
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>>741051706
I would rather take her words as truth, than just make up some illogical reason why she did it (like wanting attention). Besides this isn't what she said to a judge who she might get in trouble with, this is what she said to Conrad and her friend. Also there's the logic of her changing her mind about him committing suicide that supports my point of view on her reason for telling him to do it.
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>>741051993
>>741052025
it's a tricky decision. if you let a hundred judges rule over this, I imagine the opinions would be as split as the ones in this thread.
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>>741051751
I never said she was easily manipulated, it took him months of him convincing her it was best for him, before she changed her mind. She won't just immediately change her mind back when he has wishy washy feelings all of a sudden.
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>>741052234
What you imagine is irrelevant. It only matters what is.
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>>741051993
So judges can make stupid decisions and we should just accept it? And I'M the stupid one? Lel kid.
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>>741052183
>I would rather take her words as truth
>implying she didn't want to look good in front of her friends
Yeah, right. Problem is, people lie a lot. Did you not know?
They lie even for smaller reasons than to avoid jail or friends hating them.
Therefore, you have to look at the evidence, which is not in her favor.
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>>741051821
What is your point?
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>>741045907
She fuckin' MAID her bed did she?? MAID her fuckin' bed ya clown?

MAID FUCKING WHAT YOU DIPSHIT FUCKPOND

MAID FUCKING WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
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>>741051971
It's true today.
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>>741052279
Nonsense. She never acted angry when she "wasn't convinced." Personalities don't change all of a sudden. She wouldn't lose her sense of reason and her grasp on reality. She knew what she was doing, and she agreed with it. Unless you'd like to say she was insane?
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>>741052374
Good for you, friendo. By the way, your mother called me and said she'd pick you up at five. Be a good boy and read up on the definition of abuse before she gets here.
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if an autist has a ragefit followed by a lethal stroke because of this thread, does it get added to her charges?

just asking because it sure is getting heated in here.
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>>741052464
I WILL SHOW YOU THE DEFINITION OF ABUSE YOU LITTLE SHIT
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>>741052500
That's not how the law works. Also, the temperature is rather pleasant, so I am most unsure of what you speak.
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>>741052500
Is autist you talking about is her new boyfriend?
Did she tell him to go back to the car full of CO?
If answer to both is not, I am pretty sure she is in the clear in this regard.
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I think most of the anons in this thread should kill themselves, quit being pussies, get back in the fucking truck and just DO IT!
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>>741052102
Plenty of people make gofundmes and stuff about someone's death. You might think it's sick but I don't know. Also, did she actually get any money from the fundraiser? She said "we raised over 2,300" who would just give her money and not the kid's family? Anyway her intention was to help him, that's clear from what she said. And it is not illegal to tell someone to kill themselves.
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>>741052630
Fucking Shia, man.
I really want someone with better Photoshop skills than me to make a collage of car, Shia and that girl. I would save it and use it all the time, I swear.
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>>741052154
Yes. If I was a homosexual in Saudi Arabia and I fucked a guy, I would not think anything I did was wrong, but I would not tell anyone because I know the whole country disagrees with me.
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>>741045907
I hope to God this is one of your zany puns.
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>>741045851
>fucking up the story this much
I have the texts she sent ya lil bitch, wanna see em? You'll change your mind i assure you
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Does no one see this. Because this is all I see.
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>>741052743
I would but I'm on my phone, that would be good..
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>>741052327
So why didn't she always just tell him to kill himself?
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>>741047132
You didn't post all the facts. Fucking hell I hate fags like you who purposely miss out information or do it by accident and claim to know everything. Fucking kys you worthless piece of shit. You forgot to add she encouraged him and also listened on the phone while he suffocated and didn't call an ambulance. Faggot
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>>741052770
yea u zany cunt ur wrong
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>>741052856
Calm down babe, let me handle this.

>>741047132
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>741052770
they've already been posted, ya dingus. part of us things she's a psycho attentionwhore and the others interpret it as supporting her bf and claim she dindu nuffin wrong. just a quick reminder. a thread discussing if hitler did something wrong would look about the same. this is B/ after all.
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>>741052403
What are you trying to say? i think you must have misread something I wrote because your post makes no sense to me. I do agree she knew what she was doing, I never said that she didn't.
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>>741052872
you havent even seen the texts...
>idk if this is op
so how would you already know im wrong?
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>>741045851
She is guilty in so.e sense but the primary issue is why is she being charged with what she is? Go look up what she's being charged with and the context of what she did. She's a bad person and maybe what she did should be a crime but bare minimum she's being charged with a different crime than the one she committed.
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>>741052925
Kys you fag.
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>>741047958

Whoa, someone got his new hip hoppy album on itunes. So gangstery.
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>>741053006
maad saltii~~~
ahahahahhaa looser
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>>741052234
>I imagine
lol, yes I bet you imagine lots of things, idiot.
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>>741052786
>tfw you wake up in the morning and your gf has "LOL WHEN WILL YOU FINALLY KILL YOURSELF YOU STUPID FAGGOT" written all over her gigantic forehead
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>>741052856
I said she told him to kill himself. There is no missing information.
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>>741053053
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>>741053051
thank u it took me a few days 2 come up with that i thougt about rapping for a living what do you thhink of this

you are a bitch and a snitch as you know snitches get stiches but cannae git the bitches mang
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>>741052326
That's the society we live in, yes. Pretending this isn't a fact makes you indeed the stupid one.
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>>741052839
That is kinda what she did.
>>741052663
>fundraisers
I personally think that it is a bad taste, yet again I never needed money that much
>Anyway her intention was to help him.
Help him kill himself, exactly.
Don't pretend that the subject of what exactly she did and with what she helped him doesn't matter, because it does. Nobody would bat an eye even if the subject of her help was different.
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>>741053006
You're a fucking worthless waste of space. I hope you kill yourself.
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Always amazes me how many anons on /b/ know US law like the back of their hands. I bet the BAR was a cinch for everyone on this thread
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>>741053073
Yeah like a world where people like you are only allowed online with permission, and supervised whole time.
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>>741053130
no u
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>>741045907
She could of been acting under duress, faggot. Obviously you know how a court of law works, you spaghetti o eating pea brain NEET, innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.
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>>741045851
let me correct this
>two depressed people talk online and fall in love
>girl asks him to get help
>he refuses, wanting to manage by himself
>slowly starts getting better
>has a rough relapse and attempts suicide
>realizes that he doesn't want to last minute
>girl talks him into doing it regardless
>effectively making him kill himself
feminism is one hell of a drug. kill yourself.
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Boi.
Cara Delevingne never stops expanding her ever arsenal of half baked skills does she?
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>>741053187
>could of

that's a 15 months for you too.
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>>741053157
Nah, it was a simple delve into government law databases and things of that nature. I am not a lawyer, but I can at least look the law up to know when someone is full of shit.
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>>741052403
Oh I think you're saying, that before she was convinced that death was the best thing for him, she never acted angry at him. I don't see what that has to do with anything though. And yes perspectives can change all of a sudden. At one point I was an athiest, then I became a christian, then I stopped believing in christianity but still believe there is a god. What do you mean people can't change their mind.
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>>741053159
No the guy you responded to, but did you just fucking say
>a world where people who disagree with me can't invade my safe space
?
Because you are actually free to live out this fantasy, just not on this site.
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>>741053123

Awful, much like your sense of humor.
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>>741053128
You always just roll over and accept what you're told? Don't have any morals/beliefs that you stand up for? Good thing there's an appeal process.
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>>741046245
>spell check
Its called eyes.
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she should work on improving her hairline while in jail
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>>741053128
You're pathetic kid.
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>>741053245
Also, it is could have. Be sure to tell that other Anon.
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>>741045851
you write nice creative narrative, I hope you go on to do great things

btw, white knighting her isn't going to do anything, they can't access 4chan from prison
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