Kratom thread. Has anyone ever experienced their kratom tasting

OP here, it's definitely got some kratom in it, as I took it on an empty stomach and I can feel it taking effect, but I'm still wondering if it's cut.

Bitch I know there are kratom fags on here, get the fuck in here you assholes

fuck you and fuck your kratom bitch
IV ketamine

kratom is fucking disgusting, it does not taste like oregano, it tastes bitter as fuck

there would be very little incentive to cut kratom with anything, seeing as how you would lose a customer and buying the stuff in bulk is incredibly cheap

a guy i used to work (@ a headshop) left the shop and started buying kratom in bulk/selling it to shops. he does really well for himself, because it costs virtually nothing (dogshit drug) and people pay a lot of money for it (when on probation)

what up OP, yeah ive had some odd tasting shit I've bought over the years.

Ive never bought again from those places, it should be super bitter.

I mix it with honey.

>>740871667
I used to sell kratom, like other poster said. I've never heard of this, especially since overhead is so low. I guess it is possible though

>>740871667
Why don't you just get some mild benzos instead?
That shit is way overpriced, tastes like dirt and has no better effects.
Just buy some xanax and fuck off with your natural bullshit of a kratom.

>>740874537
You're fucking insane. I actually have a script for xanax. It's okay, but it mostly just makes me sleepy. Kratom has an opioid like effect, i love opioids, I don't have to fake an injury and deal with a doctor, I don't have to deal with any stupid nigger drug dealers who make you wait 3 hours sitting in a parking lot, meanwhile if you're not there when they show up won't even wait 5 minutes. I can just go to the fucking store and buy it.

What is this? I live in va\nc can I buy it here??

>>740874537

There are very few similarities between xanax and kratom, bud.

Compares more to low dose hydrocodone with its own unique spin.

>>740875306
Totally legal in both states. NC tried to make it illegal but the bill failed.

http://speciosa.org/home/kratom-legality-map/

>>740875592
Buy it online, nc fag here. If you don't wanna get it online try the hookah hookup, local chain headshop that is for sure in winston (where I live) and greensboro

>>740875904
What about currituck/obx?

I have some kratom and i dont know how to use it ive taken about a table spoon full and i dont feel shit i have the red and white

>>740876718
I mix it with honest, mix it at a ratio where its almost still dry but not quite. Keep track of the amount (grams) of kratom vs honey, to figure out the dosage.

I make big batches and then cut it up into regular doses and weigh them. Seems to be working well. I shape them into a large pill shape and take them with a drink.

>>740876718
That's not enough. You should take at least 2 or 3 grams. A tablespoon is probably just under a gram.

aight boys
convince me.
is kratom dope or nah? i think ive grown out of drugs completely but everything people say about kratom just seems comfy.

Ok a tablespoon isnt enough so is it good to mix red and white

>>740877128
yeah weigh it with a scale, low dose is up to 5 grams for some strains, but start small and increase a little at a time, taking too much isn't fun.

>>740877329
So I'm an alcoholic so take that as you will, but I really like kratom, its a good mellow feeling with no consequences if you don't use it daily.

I hate dope and i bought some kratom thats why i dont know how to use but im taking dudes advice im going to take about 2 or 3 grams right now

>>740871667
what effect does kratom have ?
I've never tried it , can you smoke it ?

>>740871667
No. It only tastes horrible.
>Try adding chocolate nesquick in semi-generous amounts

>>740871667
I want to try some Kratom where can I get it and how much do you recommend for a first time user?

>>740874537
>1 high quality kilo for $100
>over priced

wut?

>>740877449
what would you say its similar to?

>>740877128
On an empty stomach, 1 gram is the threshold. 1.5 in pill form should be enough for mild effects.

>>740877329
NSAIDs don't do shit for my chronic headaches and neck/shoulder pain. I have tramadol, but tolerance is a bitch. So each month I alternate and it does it's job.

>>740877596
1.5 - 2 grams on an empty stomach. https://gaiaethnobotanical.com/

>>740877596
And again
>add some fucking chocolate powder to the tea. FFS DO IT.

>>740877708
opiates.

>>740877708
not the poster you were responding to, but if you've ever had a nicotine buzz, its a more intense version of that. atleast for me

>>740878016
mild like codeine?

>>740877976
>>740877936

now, what color is the best?

>>740877936
>>740877596
~ 1 tsp (packed)

>>740877725
Eh. A gram wouldn't do shit for me anymore due to my tolerance being really high, but if I had taken a gram my first time, I probably wouldn't notice it due to not knowing what I was looking for. Probably would have just attributed it to being in a good mood.

>>740878091
Depends. All are about the same as long as it's mature leaves. I like indo yellow though. Some have different levels of sedation. The more you take, the more you will be sedated as a general rule.

>>740878129
How often do you take it? And in what doses?

>>740877708
As others have said opiates, sort of warm fuzzy feeling where you caring about anything kind of melts away a bit.

>>740877936
holy shit this stuff is pretty cheap, 1000grams for 100 bucks.. thats fucking sick if only a few grams fucks you up.

>>740878280
This. As a side effect it helps immensely with stress and anxiety. Combine it with some good kava for a relaxing day.

Ok that might have been more that 2 or 3 grams oh btw koolaid isnt the right mix for it it taste like shit oh and how long does it take to kick in

>>740878091
Depends on what you are looking for. The way it mostly works is, red strains are more euphoric, green strains are more speedy, and white strains are more sedating. There are exceptions to this rule though (green cambodian is sedating, apparently).

Brown is supposed to be a red that's matured longer and is therefore more potent, but I can't tell a fucking difference. Never tried a yellow.

Honestly though, they all have similar effects and the more you take the more sedating it is. But sometimes if you take a large dose, after the sedation wears off you get kind of a speedy, shaky feeling. It's not unpleasant, but it's not exactly something I would go looking to feel either.

>>740878237
Well, I take it four or five times a day, usually in 3 or 4 gram doses, just to keep my mood up. If I want to get high I'll take 10 or 15 grams. I'm really addicted to it. Don't let anyone bullshit you and tell you it's not addictive like the people at the headshop try to tell me.

>>740871667
I'm a pretty experienced kratom user at this point and I've never noticed an oregano taste, but I've had strains that tasted weird and significantly different from normal. It happens. The flavor never bothers me all that much but what I hate is when I get a strain that clumps up worse than normal. I toss and way too so that shit makes me gag.

Also just a little PSA for any kratom newfags who might be lurking here, this shit IS actually quite addictive. I didn't realize that when I started but be aware of this before using the stuff daily.

>>740878352
Yep. While 1.5g should be all you need for a 6-8hr dose, the max dose is 10g for idiots who use it too much. Keep it to 2-3 times a week, and try not to do over 2g/day. Combine with grapefruit juice and turmeric with bioprene (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B012OXMAMQ/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) (2 pills ~ 10 min prior) to reduce tolerance.

>>740878615
>Well, I take it four or five times a day, usually in 3 or 4 gram doses, just to keep my mood up


My god man.

>>740878352

It doesn't "fuck you up" faggot. It's a mild opioid receptor agonist. It's not heroin with a side of crack.

>>740878354
Where does one get kava? If my memory serves, I think they give that shit to abos in Australia in an effort to keep them from drinking so much, but I'm American.

>>740878469
As I have said ITT: Chocolate powder. I prefer the no sugar added nesquick. More than you would normally add, but don't over do it.

>>740878733
I take Tramadol so I understand, faggot

I want this to help get off Tramadol

>>740878469
>how long does it take to kick in

EXTREMELY variable depending on how you take it and if you have food on your stomach.

On an empty stomach, if you take it in powder form, it can start having an effect in like 5 minutes. With a full stomach on powder, usually 15-20 minutes.

If you take it in pill form, on an empty stomach it usually takes 30-45 minutes. On a FULL stomach however, in pill form, it can take a LONG ass time, like almost 2 hours.

>>740878615
"White strains are more sedating"

No. It's the opposite.

http://kratomonline.org/kratom-strains/

>>740878354
>kava
explain this please

>>740878824
It will help immensely with it.

>>740878768
Amazon.com or most places that sell Kratom.

>>740878657

I used 10 grams in the beginning and figured out that that was my sweet spot for what I wanted. Been at that daily dose for years. Little bit of tolerance but other than that nothing.

>>740878469
>and how long does it take to kick in

Empty stomach? 15-20min.

So this stuff is addictive so ill just finish what i have and leave it be

>>740878689
Yeah, I'm fully aware I'm an addict.

>>740878848
Well, that's what they told me at the head shop. I stick to fuckin' reds anyway.

>>740878854
It acts as an anti-anxiety drug. 1-3 grams a dose a up to 3x/day. It's not strong on it's own compared to some hard shit, but defiantly noticeable (takes a few days/doses to build up). If you have a fear of public speaking etc. it can help a good deal too.

>>740878824

Well then excellent choice of words given your situation. "Fuck you up" sounds like the best choice of words when talking about using a herbal supplement to help treat a mild opioid addiction.

>>740878824
You'll likely end up addicted to kratom instead, FYI. That's what happened to me when I used it to quit drinking. But that may still be a positive trade-off so I'm not necessarily trying to dissuade you. Just want to help ensure you know what you're doing.

>>740878968
That is crazy. At 6g (been doing this for almost a year, 3x/week) I would throw up. 1.5 grams still has a noticeable effect on me.

>>740878920
Well....shit. I'll check socalherbalremedies. That's where I get my kratom. Can you tell me about it? What to expect, pros and cons, etc?

>>740879098
Fair enough.

Thanks for the info guys i think im just starting to feel something idk first time ive taken more than a tablespoon

>>740879098
>>740879145
Give a noob some pointers on where to get Kratom easiest(and legit for USA), dosage, and good drugs to mix with. I was thinking of mixing it with alcohol and/or mdma ext weekend. Please help.

>>740879112
this is basicly exactly why im considering kratom and shit.. i gotta sort my shit out and get a job but im a total basementboy and im 2anxiety
where would i get it?

>>740879230

Body weight plays a part in strength. I'm 230, 6'2.

>>740875306
I'm in Asheville. You can buy it everywhere

>>740879246
It just helps you relax. Most noticeable if you are going into stressful situations that cause anxiety. It doesn't make you "high" in anyway though, and unlike Kratom not all is the same, or about. Some work well, others you need higher does depending on several factors. Check the product and it's recommendations.

faggots this shit is weaker than codeine .
if you want a buzz smoke weed

>>740879145
I've been taking Tramadol for 3 years, at the end of 2016 my first kid was born and I weened myself off for 2 months then I started taking again here and there but now I'm back on daily use.

I just want this to break it up and use kratom for a while then pills..that way I know I could always just stop without the withdrawals.

>>740879370

5' 11" 195lbs

everytime i mix red vein kratom and hard liquor i black out, is it the kratom or am i just a lightweight or what?

>>740879324

Use kratom by itself. Almost any other drug will overpower it, even weed.

>>740879448
Smoking anything fuck you up long term, and weed (if used often) fuck up a good deal of shit in your brain. Kratom is much safer (unless you mix it with other opiates/opioids, DON'T FUCKING DO THIS)

>>740879481
Just don't mix them.

>>740879526
Lightweight.

But that's a good thing.
A very, very good thing.

Ive smoked weed since i was 12 yrs of age im 34 now and weed hasn't messed me up

>>740879738
Weed gave me psychosis bitch. Don't fucking pass false propaganda. I am now Allah's soldier, literally.

>>740879738
That you can tell. Same with many alcoholics. You can't compare the you with what you would have been without some awesome science shit. I am leaving, but google it. It affects some pretty complex brain chemistry and not in a good way.

>>740879526
alcohol increases the effects of kratom for me.

3+ shots and 6-8 grams and I'm out. Otherwise I can do 6-8 grams 2x a day morning and night and be get a medium / strong effect.

>>740878780
Yeah. I used to drink it with a small bottle of chocolate milk. The low fat works best to dissolve it. Takes the bitter taste away. But it was a chore shaking it forever. Now I just swallow the caps. Really helps.

Weed didnt give you shit because ive smoked all the badass weed hash shatter and all that dont tell me what i know wit your allah ass be a soldier for allah and ill keep smoking

>>740879738
>>740879738
https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/marijuana/what-are-marijuanas-long-term-effects-brain
http://www.brainhealth.utdallas.edu/blog_page/study-shows-marijuanas-long-term-effects-on-the-brain

http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20080602/marijuana-use-may-shrink-the-brain

http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20121207/recreational-marijuana-health-effects#1

http://answers.webmd.com/answers/1176334/how-does-marijuana-affect-the-brain

I advise you actually look into the studies and the exact science behind it for a comprehensive understanding.

Oh and fuck you bitch lol just had to say it i never let anyone call me a bitch in real life but online i dont k ow what to do about it but to say fuck you lol

>>740877638
I pay about 80 for that much. And I can't stomach the taste so I buy 000 sized capsules online, pack them myself, and take 4-6 at a time.

I really like the buzz. Better than hydrocodone in my opinion. Doesn't kill the sex drive and a last a really long time having sex on it.

I'm going to be really pissed if they make it illegal.

Im good started at 12 and gonna die smoking have my own place own car bills paid kids fed im good

>>740879324
www.socalherbalremedies.com has great product at much better prices than many vendors. They're the only one I use and I'm happy to shill for them here. The kratom is a little bit hidden for some reason. You have to search for "speciosa" and they have a ton of varieties.

In case anyone with an injury is interested.
Had car crash. Broke neck. Had 5/7 of neck replaced with metal. Learned to walk again. Almost 2 years on heavy meds. Quit eventually and started on Kratom. Best thing for me ever.
I take 4 caps in the morning, all my pain from sleeping is gone and I can go thru the day pain free. I take 2 more caps at around 5pm (just took them while typing) and it helps me until I go to sleep.
Being on xanax, hydros and everything else was awful.
This has helped me live a normal life.
If you're in a similar situation, quit your meds. They're filth. Try this. It really works wonders.

>>740879481
Yeah, don't mix them. But kratom helped me get off tramadol and norco. Being a slight kratom addict isn't really a big deal, and if you taper off to quit the Withdrawals are literally nothing.

>>740879481
Sounds like a plan but some people do get withdrawals trying to quit kratom. If you're currently an opioid addict I would think it's pretty likely you'll be one of those people. But it's a less damaging drug to take so I'd go for it anyway.

>>740880423
Though I only take 2-3, I agree. Helps with pain and doesn't fuck me up.

Well guys turns out the one tablespoon wasnt enough and the koolaid sucked but i feel great actually very relaxed im diabetic and i have bad foot pain from my nerves and i am in absolutely no pain right now im actually surp4ised but but i still like weed better

>>740879738
Well I mean you're a 4chan user in your thirties. I'm 36 myself but just saying...

>>740880520
Canopy botanicals is my vendor of choice. Excellent quality and fast shipping.

>>740880851
Nice, I'll take a look. What's standard for a 250g bag? I usually order a few varieties of 250's rather than kilos of the same shit. $25 apiece from socal.

>>740880738
My back is wrecked and it's nice being able to function properly without being wasted.

I take around 10 to 12 grams at a time. If withdrawing, it completely takes that away. If off opiates, I get a nice buzz. Best way to take it is mix it with muscle milk powder and blend really well with milk. Still nasty but slam it.

>>740881001
So much this. Though it's not my back, it's allowed me to work again.

It's a godsend.

Im a 4chan user in my 30s and i just started this and i have to say you guys make my day better even if someone calls me a bitch on here its all fun and kool to me

>>740880999
Same price. With $20 discount if you order 4. Shipping is around $10 IIRC.

>>740881037
Because I can and will say it every time: Mix with chocolate milk powder.

So how long does the effect last i feel good right now

>>740871667
I tired it once, it was shitty felt like bad codine and too much coffee.

>>740880423
>I'm going to be really pissed if they make it illegal.
Yeah man, I'm hoping Trump fires Sessions because that cocksucker is drug warrior #1. I don't want to make this nice comfy kratom thread political, but it's relevant here. Illegalizing kratom seems like exactly the kind of thing he'd do.

>>740880851
Fuck that's cheap. Will save me ~ $20.00 a kilo. Thanks anon.

>>740881334
It helps people get over hard ones. If anything he should be for it.

For some reason, I keep thinking Kratom is some sort of Cyanide pill!

>>740881306
Dose?

>>740881396
3 grams i think.

>>740881342
No problem. I only buy green and red strains, so I can't vouch for the white. But their maeng da is excellent and so is the hulu kapuas.

>>740881388
It only is if you're a faggot. It kills faggots 100% of the time.
Be careful anon.

>>740881378
Well, I'm pretty sure he's in bed with the private prison industry. But anyway... We're good for now but I'm concerned for how long.

I've had some for ages and never got around to doing it, i have just done 1 table spoon of powdered thai. Should that be enough?

I just took maybe 4 or 5 grams with some koolaid but im a big man

Is this a trick like when you faggots would claim that you can mix and breathe harmful chemicals to create crystals?

>>740877638
I pay 70 a kilo for very good quality stuff. You just need to know where to look.

>>740881334
I agree 100%. I took opiates for years and I rarely take any at all now. There was a lot of pushback from congress when the feds mentioned making it illegal. From both sides of the Isle for once.

It's really a godsend for a country in the midst of an opiate crisis.

>>740881588
Give it about 30 mins, then take another one if it's not working.

Typically low doses give me energy and higher doses are more opiate like.

>>740881526
Kinda high for a first go, but I can see people not liking it I guess.

>>740881536
>hulu kapuas.
I'll check it out.

Pharmaceutical companies dont wanna lose money so they want it illegal i hate pills it absolutely ruined my marriage and my kids miss their mom all the time amd she isnt dead just out there on dope

>>740881588
If packed, yes. If not, depends on weight. And how much you've eaten.

>>740881981
:(

>>740881730
https://canopybotanicals.com seems to be about that.

What do you recommend?

>>740881981
Maybe. With the whole No. 1 cause of death under 50 thing they may want to scale back or face a major backlash.

>>740881946
Its just not comfy like weed.

>>740878657
All depends on personal chemistry. I have been taking it daily for years at night. I take 15 grams a day all at once only in the evening for pain relief. I am on 2 other meds that counteract the kratom so while this seems like a huge dose it isn't, it does last longer for me then most people. It is excellent for pain relief but doesn't get you high per se. If you take too much you get dizzy and it isn't comfortable. I preferred white vein and red vein strains. A kilo lasts me like 2.5 months generally with daily use. I have no withdrawal if I don't take any for a few days, maybe a but if restless legs and trouble falling asleep. It has made a huge difference on my quality of life.

>>740882224
I can see that from what I hear
>Though I've yet to try weed since I can't get it and don't want to get v& using the internet.

I'm going to buy some of this shit.

Its not every day that you see something that the vast majority of /b/ agrees on.

I like it alot but i need to find something better than koolaid to mix

>>740882254
Withdrawal is supposed to peak at 7-9 days, with it no longer being traceable in 14-18.

And while I do agree that body chemistry matter, I was talking about the anon who was a 1st time and (I assume) was taking nothing else. For me ~6 grams a day can get me "high" while 1.5 can get me "buzzed" and help with pain.

>>740882531
Here to spam again: Chocolate powder mix.

>>740882370
Kek yeah don't expect anything real strong but it's just a very pleasant and relaxing thing. You don't get high exactly, just chill.

>>740882098
>>>740881730 (You)
>https://canopybotanicals.com seems to be about that.
>What do you recommend?

I don't know about that vendor. Reddit has a very good thread almost daily with prices. Most vendors carry the same shit as there are not that many importers into the US. Strains I have enjoyed lately include:

White Vietnam, Red Hulu Kapulas, White Sumatran, Elephant Jongkong (green) and good old Red Bali.

I personally don't care for maeng da, too much energy and not enough chill. Not worth the extra price.

>>740882321
You don't know anyone who could get you some? Getting weed is so easy, sometimes as easy as approaching a group of black people.

>>740882637
Will try. Thanks anon.

Buy from Kratom source USA. The quality and price are the best I've seen anywhere. Every strain I've tried has smelled the same way, like tea.

>>740882677
Nope. And I live in SW Florida (so you'd think it would be easy).

>>740882604
I'll cosign that, but packing your own capsules is really the way to go.

Wickedkratom.com

Quality stuff, anon

Kool day im 34 and ive actually did something new and the pain in my legs is gone and my diabetes is bad and uncontrolled im in pain everyday allday at work at home everywhere thank you guys

>>740882838
I think weed is really overrated tbh. I mean you might as well try it and form your own opinion but I really don't see what the fuss is about. I'm in Washington where it's legal and I might smoke a tiny bit once in a blue moon but almost never.

>>740882873
Fuck yeah it is. Some say it's gram to effect ratio is worse, but man, no taste. Hard to beat that.

Once I made a cup blend that actually tasted good (like hot coco), but as soon as I remembered Kratom was involved the placebo effect kicked my ass.

>>740882098
I like canopy. Favorite reds are maeng da, hulu kapuas, and bentuangie.

Greens are maeng da, elephant, borneo, and hulu kapuas.

>>740883011
I have insomnia and would like to give it a go for that.

>>740871667
Is this stuff addictive

>>740882254
Nah. I have never had withdrawal really from it at all then. Most people say day 3 is the worst. I think most people get in trouble by dosing multiple times a day.

>>740883117
My trick is to use a fine needle to poke some holes in the capsules, take with water, and immediately have a hot coffee or tea. Seems to work almost as fast that way.

I really can't stand the taste.

>>740883317
Like literally everything you could enjoy (such as vidya, masturbation, gambling, etc), yes. Chemically also yes, but very mild. Similar to caffeine. Mild headache for a day or two assuming heavy use.

>>740883317
In low doses no, in higher doses it can be. in my experience less addictive than weed or alcohol.

>>740883317
barely

>>740883483
>I really can't stand the taste.
I still haven't had anything worse. Or even close. My wife vomits at the smell alone and hates most teas now even though she only had it 5 times in tea form.

>>740883219
Not necessarily the best for insomnia. It is a member of the coffee family and does have some stimulant effect. If you take it too soon before bed it will keep you up.

Great thread everyone. Nice break from all the traps.

>>740883647
Well fuck that then. Off to other options. Thanks anon.

>>740883317
I'm very addicted. I can't sleep and get bad anxiety and muscle spasms if I don't take it. That might vary from person to person but yes it absolutely has the potential for physical addiction and withdrawal symptoms.

>>740883711
Why would you risk invoking them?

>>740883641
I toss and wash it. It's no worse then gunpowder tea IMHO. I can tell good from bad by the taste now.

>>740883647
Large dose a strong red strain, maybe 5 grams, and I sleep like a baby.

>>740883782
Fuck.

>>740883775
How about after 20 days of no use? Because if it still persists then something went very wrong with you. Either it is psychological or you had an idiosyncratic reaction.

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>>740883775
> http://watch.mtrstore.com

>>740883738
Get some fijian lawena kava kava. That will make you sleepy.

>>740883641
It doesn't taste nearly as shitty as shrooms, to me. It's bitter but beyond the bitterness there's nothing really gross about it imo. Just the bitterness.

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>>740883916
Fool!

>>740883949
On it anon. Thanks. Recommend a source?
>>740883991
I fucking hate bitter. But I understand its 100% personal preference.

>>740883840
They all wake me up at first. Eventually reds and whites slide off and I get sleepy but first hour or so for me is like a mug of hot tea.

>>740883923
I haven't ever gone that long without so I don't know. I've read the withdrawals can linger for quite a while but I can't confirm or disconfirm.

>>740884133
Yeah if you hate bitter than kratom is not your jam. Nice dubs.

>>740884165
It peaks at the 7-9th day. You can try a taper rather than cold. But I would recommend giving it a go. If you can, stay clean for at least 6 mo and only use on occasion after if at all.

>>740883775
how much do you take daily?

>>740884255
>if you hate bitter than kratom is not your jam
Sadly
>Nice dubs.
Ditto.

>>740871667
only take it in capsules. that shit is nasty

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Never tried Kratom but want to. What's a good strain/dose to start with, and where's a good place to buy? Ukfag

>>740884133
Kalm with Kava is a good source. Thier borungoru is awesome. Kava has exploded in popularity and recent typhoons have cut production. It's gonna be kinda pricey. The Wakacon brand on Amazon isn't too bad either.

By the way Kava Kava tastes like peppery, bitter, mud. It tastes and smells very bad. Even the Polynesians chug it down. Take kava kava only on an empty stomach. Give it an hour before eating a light meal, it will get stronger.

>>740883775
How much do you take daily? How many doses is it split between? Are you using plain leaf or extracts or enhanced leaf? Does your nose drip at all and when do WDs start for you?

>>740877128
A level teaspoon in closer to 2-3 grams

>>740884554
I mix a bunch of chocolate syrup in it too. But kava gives me a bunch of energy. Never got the calming or sleepy effects from it.

wtf is kratom

>>740884554
Kalm with Kava yields page error :(

>>740885045
A nasty powder that mimics opioids. It's legal, cheap, and effective. For pain relief it's top notch with less side effects that NSAIDS. Just look through the thread.

>>740885047
Nvm, internet just sucks.

>>740878352
Its not to get dude weed lmao on you underage gaywad.

>>740885013
Yeah. I make my blender kava with lechthin, a bit of cream and some chocolate syrup. Makes it more tolerable but far from something I would seek out if it wasn't for it's deleterious effects.

It's a shame the price has nearly doubled in the last year or so.