Ciggeretes: kills you, legal Cigars: kills you, legal Alcohol:

>>740840347

>2017
>Still whining over pot being illegal.

Get a fuckin life.....

>>740840398
Don't you think it's a little odd marijuana is illegal, when it does absolutely no bad for you?

That's like making chocolate illegal.

>>740840347
Keep hitting that bowl stonnie

>>740840347
Why do you care if it's illegal or not? Smoke it anyway because who gives a fuck.

Inb4 land of the free where you get into a high speed chase with tanks for having a joint on you.

>>740840347
Gerrymandering, after effects of reefer madness propaganda, pot being associated with poor minority communities etc
It'll be legal soon enough. We just need to get fucktard Sessions out of the AG spot here in america

>>740840436
I'm not hitting anything and never smoked in my life. I'm an edible guy.

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OP: a huge FAGGOT

>>740840433
> absolutely not bad for you

>>740840398
Why? You both have a point. potentially millions in tax profits and reduced crime. Why not make it legal?

>>740840460
Your daddy Trump is the one who appointed him. Good luck with that

>>740840501
Enlighten me, what bad does it do? I'd like to know. Please

Everything. Kills you.

>>740840347
You're purposely leaving out any pros of anything above marijuana. Manipulating data to make your claim.

>>740840347
I honestly think it's pharmaceutical companies... Because they know it's a magic drug for all pain and will put them out of business.

Hell, there may be even a cancer cure out there. But do you really think they will reveal it or give a fuck to study it more? No. They make tons of $$$ off it

>>740840507
I didn't vote for Trump for this reason and many others. I voted for the only pro-legalization candidate on the ballot.

>>740840550
What are some pros of Cigars and ciggeretes

I have no problem with legalizing marijuana, but my god, why won't stoners shut the fuck up about the goddamn thing?

Seriously, that and seeing 4:20's everywhere gets really annoying

>>740840528
Turns you into a brain-dead retard who complains about federal regulation on /b/ of all places.

>>740840347
cigarettes: controlled substance.
cigars: controlled substance.
alcohol: controlled substance.
tylenol: controlled substance.
caffeine and coffee beans: controlled substance.
cannabis: grown and sold illegally. not yet a controlled substance.

Its addictive, and not in the physical sense, but in the mental one, i know people who cant even smile without being high, they find absolutely no joy in life if they are not high, they cant have fun when not high, they cant hang around people when not high, they are just walking husks when not high

than again with everything if its in moderation its obviously not going to have such a big impact, but my point is that it has the power to ruin people

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>>740840347
This is the most retarded post I've seen in a while. Nice bait, man.

>>740840550
Agree , also chooses to leave out all the cons relating to cannabis abuse . Manipulating data is pathetic , be objective or fuck off

>>740840594
Just like fags wouldn't shut up about LGBT mairrage when it was illegal. There's no point for it to be done in the first place.

Make a shit storm, get it noticed. Like the fags of the LGBT did.

>>740840599
I guess they don't realize how stupid they are because their memories of having a brain were removed half a year after starting to smoke

>>740840599
So why are you on /b/? No worse than any other reason to be on here.

>>740840603
Uhh... People can make alcohol by themselves at home too. Ever heard of pruno?

They just buy it at stores because it's better than homemade.

>>740840617
Also a gateway drug that often leads to more dangerous, harder and addictive drugs

>>740840647
I'm here for my highly illegal and damning loli porn. You don't see me crying about having it made mainstream so I can consume it easily and without shame.

>>740840611
That's because they are depressed in the first place. The marijuana makes them happy and laugh.


Give any depressed person marijuana and they'll turn into a positive individual.

Hence why it's used for depression.

>>740840611
So does any other legal drug. Even things like alcoholics or smokers. Go talk to a pack a day smoker who can't get cigarettes for a few days and see how friendly they are.

>>740840347
I understand the point you're trying to make, I'm all for legalization as well but you are either delusional or trolling if you think it's some sort of magical cure all. Typically it sets all sorts of negative emotions into overdrive for me, I get super depressed and anxious every time I smoke. And there are tons of different types of depression, no one treatment is gonna cure it all.

Obviously it helps quote a lot of people with various conditions, nobody is gonna deny that but it's not like some kind of alchemical elixer of the gods.

>>740840617
Go suck a BBC

>>740840635
I didn't see it that way, but you're right

>bitch about a law no one cares about
>continue bitching
>still no one cares, getting annoyed
>law passed so they shut up

>>740840629
So what exactly is negative about marijuana? The only negative thing is if you start before age 16,it messes with your brain chemistry. That's only before 16.same with alcohol.

>>740840704
Actually the exact opposite, ive head this argument from people with depression that do weed all the fucking time, they look happy when high, after that they fall even deeper in their depression
my friend tried to kill herself 7 times now, she does weed for some time, shes getting worse and worse

>>740840347
life kills you

>>740840684
Kek. You'd make a good agent at the DEA. you should apply there you fat, sad sack of slob.

>>740840704
not true
some people get even more anxious and depressed with pot, even if its indica

>>740840347
>what is cannabis psychosis

>>740840703
Because you can easily consume it for free on the internet. I'm sure if pot smokers could safely click a button and have it delivered to their door for free they wouldn't complain either.

If Loli started costing you $20 a go you might change your tune.

>>740840711
Well we are not arguing if cigeretts should be legal but if weed should be right?
I dont think cigeretts should be legal for exactly same reason

>>740840747
before 16? more like 20 or 22

>>740840731
That's pretty much how it works now days.

>>740840591
As you put in cannabis, "ciggeretes" helps deal with stress, makes you chill and happy. Cigarettes are terrible for you, but being automatically biased doesn't help you sway anyone. Marijuana related injuries and deaths are rising. Dui means driving under the influence, but people just associate a dui with alcohol. Marijuana falls under that category as well as other stimulants or depressants.

>>740840347
Cops: kills you, legally

>>740840782
Indica is the one that makes you relaxed. Sativa is the one that makes you laugh at the smallest shit

>>740840347
makes you chill out so much you're an unmotivated bum with a habit. nice work developing a crutch, degenerate.

>>740840768
Life is the #1 cause of death.

>>740840808
Nope... Study proved it was 16

>>740840505
reduce crime, in the same way making murder legal would reduce crime too. fucking stoner. Obviously, anything you stop enforcing reduces crime.

>>740840855
Many people smoke weed and have a stable salaried job dumbfuck. Quit buying into the propaganda

>>740840747
Smoking marijuana damages lung growth, like alcohol it impairs judgement, impacted reaction time.

>>740840841
i know, thats why i said even with indica

not everyone reacts always in a positive way, i used to smoke and my reactions were so mixed, coupled with it fucking up my memory and concentration, that i just quit smoking all together
been for over half a year without it and i feel like my head is clearer

>>740840347
It allows the government to lock up scum and hippies legally, I never understood why people don't get this.

>>740840808

Try 25. Your brain is still developing until around 24-25. THC is the factor here. Its a mild form of acid that causes hallucinogenic effects, and alters your brain chemistry. However, these effects are so minor, you'd have to smoke over 5 ounces every day from the time you are 6, until your 25th birthday for this effect to cause any significant damage.

>>740840881
but 16 year olds don't know shit about moderation, and even if they dont get permanent damage they'll still abuse it and ruin their studies, i've seen it

>>740840921
No dumbass. Smoking anything damages the lungs. Weather it's weed, tobacco, or roaches.

Its healthier than tobacco than smoking and dosnt give you a black lung.


Also who said you have to smoke it?

>>740840918
so do heroin users and working alcoholics, those people have fucking problems too, but still manage to function.

>>740840347
Bullshit, cannabis is smoked you dumb fuck.
Further more cannabis makes you docile and pasive.
Dont you understand that the "war on drugs" is the same as prohabition.
It is a method to get ppl on that shit.
\When you smoke weed you do nothing, you dont stand up for anything.
So when your nation is getting fucked, you will be couchlock and will just let it happen.
This is not the first time substances are used to fuck a nation.
Russians did not had the whole vodka alcoholic meme until the bolsevik.

>>740840347
I can't stand weed. It's the worst high in my personal experiences. I can't think straight, form coherent sentences, or even stand the company of other people without feeling an incredibly heightened sense of self consciousness.

I understand other people feel great on the high but, the complete and utter shutdown of my usually quick wit and mental capacity fucking destroys any sense of enjoyment for me. I don't find feeling mentally handicapped a good use of my time. I'd much rather get high on molly or speed and feel hyper stimulated than that sink-hole.

And, I get it, some people don't react that way for whatever reason. But, in my time spent seeing friends and family stoned--to this day--I only know two people who can actually function as if they were sober while stoned. Everyone else I know beyond those two are visibly altered to the point of embarrassment or non-functionality. I honestly hate being around stoners; I hate seeing my friends or family stoned because they act so impulsively and typically destructively.

Weed does heighten emotional response--it will make you laugh at the slightest thing--but, I fucking know from experience it is not 'Chill', it will not turn the most angry person into a relaxed one. Most of the shitty traits people hide sober come out on weed just like booze.

You asked for a con, that is one of smoking marijuana.

It's true that making marijuana illegal is dumb as fuck if you compare the effects to those of drinking alcool... but saying that marijuana had no negative effects is utter bullshit repeated by hippies. It actually can make you addicted like someone would be to porn, make you lazy as fuck and make you depend on it for dopamine rushes which is far from good.

>>740840347
I don't believe smoking Mary Jane has no effect on your lungs. I'm sure it does you inhaling something your body doesn't work on, like putting molasses in your gas tank. If it was legal you get a lot of people saying legalize all drugs which is in my opinion a bad idea.

>>740840905
or in the same way taking money from criminal gangs does

>>740840918
because being a functioning manager in McDonalds and spending half your wage on weed is how a successful lives

>>740840347
ITS the jews op. the fuceknin jews.

Marijuana does harm you. For one it kills brain cells.
>source: op

>>740840905
When cannabis is legal good persons start to grow and sell
Now bad drug cartell whoresons make money with it because they don't care if it's illegal

>>740840978
So what.... 16 years olds don't know anything about alcohol moderation or tobacco moderation and it's still legal

>>740841034
I think all drugs should be legal. Let people fuck themselves on whatever they want. There are already shit things legal. Let it all go free and be regulated. Could cut crime down from cartels shipping it through the border. Cut down on dealers and everyone would be getting real stuff not things cut with baby formula and chemicals.

>>740841094
Your point is that since there is substance abuse, let's make it worse by legalizing another one?
Yeah sure taxes and higher quality and so on, but I don't want to see how many from those generations would grow up

>>740841014
I feel the same with alcohol. I fucking hate buzzed or drunk people with a passion. However, people who are high are very much more tolerable and at least thier aware of thier surroundings and don't become aggressive like people drunk

>>740840347
You don't know how cancer and carcinogens work, do you?

Cannabis kills you too.

Do you 6th grade Sci fair project on it. That'd be really special.

Champ

>>740841065
So does alcohol

>>740840981
Typically the thing making smoking marijuana safer than smoking tobacco is that even heavy potheads don't usually smoke 20 joints a day. If they did i don't imagine they'd be a whole lot better off in the lung damage department.

(Not the guy you were responding to btw, just giving my 2 cents)

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why havent we legalized marriage with teenagers?
>literally old enough and healthy enough to birth children
>can be supported by a financially stable adult rather than some young punk
>qt gfs
>women mature faster than men
tell me op why?

Cannabis is only legal so that the niggers can get locked up. keep it illegal tbh

>>740841187
haha yeah anon i have known people go through whole eighths in a day i really doubt that

>>740841014
This

I don't like getting drunk, but I'd rather do that than feeling that over-consciousness about everything.

Plus I can act moderately normal with alcohol, with weed it's impossible to say anything coherent unless you stress the fuck out to form a sentence

Only niggers do marijuana

>>740841187
Tobacco usually contains a whole range of additives that are more dangerous to your health than cannabis, which is basically pure plant matter.

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>>740840347
cigarettes and cigars take 17 minutes from your life with each smoke

beer takes 9 minutes with each 6 pack

pills take 3 seconds with each dose

caffine takes 3 years with each large cup of coffee

weed does nothing

so if you smoke and drink and take pills and coffee fast enough you can go back in time

op is a fag until he can prove you can travel time with weed

>>740841244
and wiggers

>>740841187
Marijuana is a natural herb which can be eaten to have none of the damaging smoke effects

Ciggeretes is mostly "man made" in that, a lot of chemicals are added that fucks up your body more. Eaten, smoked, whatever, you'll still die from the contents of a cigarette

>>740841237
And hold your eyelids open so you don't look like a zippehead

>>740840347
bigpharma needs money

>>740841209
That's actually 1 of the actual reasons. White niggas use weed more than blacks, yet blacks are locked up way higher for it.

>>740841056
>>740841069
I'm all for leeching money out of addicted degenerates with no self-control. But the truth is dumbass socialists would rather spend money helping degenerates kick their habit instead of spending it on the productive part of the population. The health and socialist spending to support you stinky hippies would far exceed any tax collected. Drug dealers don't help you fucks, you're nothing to them but dollar bills and that's why they do it.

You are absolutely right! We should make all those things illegal so degenerates like you have no real argument

>>740840816
no, if someone threatens to kill you with an unloaded gun someone else can fear for you life and shoot the gun carrier. Cops have been given use of force to deal with situations that are potentially dangerous for themselves and others safety.

>>740840347
aside from someone like who dev schizophrenia from smoking cos shit family genetics

>>740841329
That'd be fair in my books. It's all or nothing.

>>740840747
Pretty big negative factor right there

>>740840528
Marijuana is quite often associated with schizophrenia. You'd know that if you weren't a brain dead, pot smoking hippy.

Not sure why you'd be okay with cigarettes but not marijuana though. At least marijuana gets you high. Cigarettes just kill.

>>740840773
Junky scum fuck

>>740840347
Marijuana is terrible . One time I smokeda bit with some friends... we laughed, giggled and ate all the cookies!

It was terrible

>>740841357
even coffee? come on, that's a bit harsh
coffee is life

>>740840560
Wouldn't doubt that the pharmaceutical companies are behind it being illegal. Would make sense given that marijuana (Specifically CBD) can be more effective than chemo (Which in a lot of cases just prolongs suffering)

>>740841277
Then why are there so many kinds of marijuana? Nothing about it is natural other than it grows out of the ground, like a tobacco plant. Pot is fucked with in so many ways to get different highs or just to fuck with you. I think pot should be legalized but regulated. Cigarettes are shit, but stop the crusade just because you want to get high. Admit that first, then start the bullshit.

>>740841383
Damn.... You must've been fucking baked.

>>740841367
He's either a pot smoking hippy on his teens, or an older pothead who seems to be unable to find healthier pleasures in life, don't ask him to see the evidence

>>740841367
Cannabis can cause psychosis in people that are genetically predisposed to it. So it's not a real threat to healthy people. It can case paranoia in healthy individuals thought (But it might be interesting to investigate whether paranoia is related to the substance being illegal in the first place).

>>740840347
Cannabis: for those already with anxiety, can make symptoms 100% worse, causing paranoia, mental decline and higher chance of developing schizophrenia (especially if it runs in your family)

>>740841259
>caffine takes 3 years with each large cup of coffee
Lolwut

>>740840347
Wasn't Bruce Lee allergic to cannabis? Swelled his meninges, fell unconscious and died. It's super rare, but people do die from smoking this shit.

>>740840436
And what is wrong with being a "stonnie" ?

Or did you allow your self to be brainwashed and think that there is good drugs and bad drugs. Coffee is ok, but marijuana is bad? You are predjudice against drugs

You fucking drug racist!!

>>740841059
It's not but when someone feels ok spending their live like that who are you to tell them It's a bad live
As long as they don't live as leeches that is

>>740841367
Oh are racist against marijuana. You are no different then hitler.

>>740841459
It has nothing to do with it being illegal at all, you might feel paranoid sometimes when buying, but when being in a private area? or in a country on which it is legalized?

>>740840347

Potheads always ignore all the evidence against and post articles from "Sunshine Daydream Magic News" stating that weed kills cancer and aids.

Weed is bad for you. I'm not saying it should be illegal, but it IS bad for you.

>>740841435
There are literally thousands strains of apple trees.
Different kinds of high are associated with different times of harvest. Every plant you buy in your local supermarket is bred to improve on certain aspects of the final product.
If you are interested, so some research on how bananas originally looked like.

>>740841234
Yeah, but for years or even decades on end? Even the ones I knew who smoked heavily only did so in phases at best, and soon started having more than enough other negative effects from the massive amounts of THC to quit after relatively short periods of time. Although that's purely my experience, I'm sure there's at least some people who can smoke that much for that long.

>>740841277
You're right about the ability to avoid the damage to the lungs by eating it or using some other sort of ingestion method besides smoking. But if you actually believe the drug lords in Central and South America growing your pot are any more "green" (pardon the pun) about the growing process than tobacco companies are about growing their tobacco, you may be a but too naive for your own good. They have even less standards of quality to adhere to, there's no reason for them not to dump shit tons of pesticides and whatnot on their crops.

>>740841435
Marijuana is natural just like coffee beans or coca beans or watermelon.

Tobacco plant has many chemicals added into it to make the product.


There aren't "many kind of marijuana".

There's just divergent strains (plant types). You extract the contents of the plant naturally (boiling it, etc) to make pancakes with or cookies.

Cannabis can cause depression, bi polar and schizophrenia.
I'm not getting this from studies i'm getting it form seeing mates get these side effects.

>>740841367
>>740841459
Yeah exactly. Which is why you shouldn't do acid if you are predisposed to schizophrenia. It'll make you do crazy things.

CBD oil is legal, the part that has all the positive health benefits without the nigger high. Cry more, reprobates.

>>740841314
Drug dealers are scum
Everyone knows this
Wouldn't you much rather buy from the nice old hippy lady down the street that wants to better her pension?
Or just grow it yourself?

>>740841559
Your buddies used cannabis because they were depressed in the first place. Correlation =! Causality.

>>740841495
That's the problem, they usually live as leeches.

And as a hobby? okay, but not as a culture, the stoner culture is so retarded I wouldn't be surprised if one day the west civilization falls, it would be in part because of so many idiots

>>740841459
>genetically predisposed
>healthy people
So I suppose that if aspirin only made some 'unhealthy' people schizophrenic, it wouldn't be pulled off the shelves and only given to those who have been medically prescribed to take it? Idiot.

>>740841154
How others spend their free time is
Not
Your
Business

>>740841582
Absolutely. You should never use any psychedelics if you are in danger of developing schizophrenia.

>>740840433
comparing chocolate to marijuana?
could u not have come up with a better comparison?

>>740841546
Why would they dump pesticides or do any of that? No reason to... Unless they want to lose business. A person will know good weed from weed that's been fucked with.

Either way, you can grow your own weed just the way you want it, or buy it from reputable stores.

>>740841616
You speak about weed like religious nuts speak about god

Something good happened to you? Thank the weed, it relaxes you and opens your mind, man

Something bad happened? Must've been something else bro, no correlation here

>>740841616
No they didn't, they did it because they wanted to and continued using it.
and how do you explain bi polar then Dr,dudeweed?

>>740841662
Having trouble keeping your balance does not exclude you from doing sports like skiing for example. It's your body, your responsibility to look out for it.

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>>740841314
you're so fucking stupid it hurts my face

>>740841699
Well chocolate from from a plant too

>>740841681

It is if they slowly ruin neighbors and countries by being good-for-nothing nobodies

You think you sound intimidating by writing one word per line? Go back to twitter

>>740841719
This.

This is a good point.

>>740840594
Follow your own advice. Why does everyone complain about people talking about literally any subject?

>>740841731
>>740841719

You are misunderstanding. I just wanted to state that "my buddies smoked weed and got depression" is not scientific in any way. Without a proper study you can't know if they were predisposed to having mental disorders before smoking weed. Also, theres no control since you don't know what would have happened without weed. Just saying, anecdotal knowledge is useless when talking about actual harm reduction. Not trying to glorify weed, this applies to all psychoactive substances.

>>740841708
Holy shit you can't be serious right? Their reasons for using pesticides and shit is the same as literally every other farmer's on the planet: protecting their crop. And I can guarantee you that, while people can probably sniff out the worst additives or their effects, you have almost certainly never smoked any weed in your life that was totally untreated. As long as what they're using isn't bad enough to immediately cause noticeable side effects, people are gonna consume that shit whether they're aware of doing so or not.

>>740841314
yeah you need the durg taxes to pay for your neet lifestyle

>>740841844
are you comparing the number of people bitching about weed legalization, and the few who are tired of listening to so much bitching?

>>740840398
>2017
>pot is still illegal

if you don't think that's outrageous, you're unbelievably stupid. Cannabis is better than most other drugs and even if you don't agree with that, it doesn't matter because it is as great as people say it is... it should be legal so that the cost will hopefully go down and eventually become non-profitable. Imagine being able to smoke a huge bowl of pure THC crystals and literally drink a whole bottle of CBD's just for the hell of it. That would be a whole new era of awesome

>>740840347
No?

>>740841735
Skiing is in no way comparable to a potentially dangerous mental condition

>>740840347
>Explain?

The war on drugs keeps prisons full. Most prisons in the US are privately owned, for profit businesses.

I had a dealer living next door to me. He was a cunt, didnt care about the smell for neighbors (i dont like it btw) and he was just generally a bad person. My brother also smoked it a lot, which led to him doing other drugs and now he doesnt live with us, blames his family for how fucking nuts he is and lives with his crazy girlfriend who also smokes a shit ton.

>>740841735
Also, It's your responsibility until you wig out while driving and kill someone

>>740841944
Yes

>>740841956
That's your fault you didn't rat him out to the feds, dumbfuck

>>740840347

Cannabis:

Kills you (just as carcinogenic as tobacco - generally smoke with tobacco.

Mental illness - I'm 40 and I've had at least 5 close friends (and an ex) lose their minds from smoking weed.

Finally, those who I know who do smoke weed do it on an almost daily basis. If they were drinking at the same level I'd consider them an alcoholic. Still, they claim it's "non addictive" and "doesn't cause problems" - despite the fact that they spend hours of their day as useless, red-eyed morons.

Weed should be legal, simply to shut fucks like you up. Because you all think you're somehow "against the system" by doing something 80% of people under 25 do.

>>740841650
I don't like the stoner culture either but I think the problem are lazy leeches and not the cannabis in itself
Maybe some more of them would work if there where no mandatory drug tests in the USA for many jobs, but that's speculation

>>740841952
Yeh man, de war on drugs is racis

>>740841662
Yeah, no chemical that's horribly unhealthy has ever stayed available to the public after it was found to be dangerous to EVERYONE, much less one that's only dangerous to some but not others.

The only thing that should be illegal is governing other people's lives.

>>740841849
> is useless when talking about actual harm reduction
Yes it's also useless saying that someone on crystal meth stabbed people to death because they thought they were demons aswell, that wasn't the meth that was because they were like that before they smoked it.

>>740842026
>>740841951

This I can agree with. Participating in traffic is not acceptable if you are under the influence of any substance. I feel like drunks are more prone to actually driving under the influence than stoned people.
Either way, don't consume and drive. That's just irresponsible.

>>740840347
except it turns you into a shit-tier nigger.

everyone I know that smokes pot turns into a nigger/white-trash

>>740842109

Go back and read what I wrote again. I never wrote anything about race. People of all races get locked up for weed, not just niggers and spics.
It's money. Weed is still illegal because of money.

>>740842112
t. millennial

>>740842129
I drive high all the time for the past 5 years. Never got an accident.

>>740842113
Dangerous behaviour under the active influence of a substance is different from long-term effects that are not part of the spectrum of active effects of the substance.

>>740842112
how's smashing the fash and the patriarchy going, fruitcake?

>>740841546
Legislation would better the quality because it could be either controlled or the people that want it could just have some plants in the garden
>>740841708
Drug Lords are scum
>>740841873
I actually did consume in Amsterdam and homegrown from a friend
Never support organised criminality

>>740842129
Agreed but just about every pothead I ever knew was insistent that they drove just fine and openly mocked anyone who didn't feel they were capable of the same, so I dunno if that's entirely true though. Although it's possible i just knew assholes.

>>740841491
caffeine has a multitude of health benefits and makes you more productive, as it's a stimulant

pot/marijuana/dro has like one health benefit - as an appetite-inducing painkiller if you have anorexia or cancer - other than that, it makes you an unproductive moron-nigger

>>740841791
It's not on you to govern the lives of other people

>>740840347
Omg, how many times must we explain this? First, it's an easy why to fill the privately owned for profit prisons. Second it would cause a huge hit to big pharma across the board. Next, it would cause a huge hit to all levels of government income because of muh asset forfeitures. As soon as the mj industry can grease lawmakers palms better than those other lobbyists we'll keep being force feed bullshit propaganda for the next 70 years or so.

>>740842111
???

So you condone genetically predisposed people getting schizophrenia so you can smoke weed and not feel paranoid about the police finding out and confiscating it from you?

>>740842083
I don't know how it's done in fat USA but here in Britain they never go for the small time dealers they use them to get to the big ones. I can tell you now the police could have done him anytime but they won't for that reason

Ask a guy who just got IP banned off of instagram anything

>>740842356
I actually drive MUCH more carefully when I'm high.

The saying is true.

People high on weed wait for the light to turn green, people who are drunk run red lights

>>740840398
>>740842377
ALCOHOL. Your case and point shattered faggot.

>>740842404
I guess it's on you to govern them by silencing their concerns. Am I right?

>>740840704
its called being introvert

>>740842104
I've seen it happen to but you know what it's like.they smoke it and mush their brain into thinking it's good

>>740842541
Or that yeah... They can be an introvert of a "weird" social outcast freak

>>740842465
Substanced induced schizophrenia just means you are getting it earlier than without the drug. It's not like weed actually causes schizophrenia, it just triggers what would develop into a mental disorder in the long run anyway. It's smart to actually investigate if someone in your family had mental disorders, even if you don't plan on smoking.

>>740842476
Shame that doesn't count for everyone else. The opposite happens to some maybe not running red lights but driving dangerously.

>>740842523
This is true, but I can speak out about what I think about their concerns
And I think that you never had an entitlement to other people doing something with their live so that the country or your neighborhood or whatever looks like you want it

>>740842523
*this is not true
I obviously don't want to silence you

>>740842594
Still not a reason to legalise weed dickhead

>>740842220
Older than your dumb ass

>>740842594
Also
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-4114634/Marijuana-DOES-cause-schizophrenia-triggers-heart-attacks-experts-say-landmark-study-slams-drug-s-medical-benefits-unproven.html

>>740842695
Like I want it? so not liking a shithole neighborhood with high crime it's just how I want it?

I'm not even going to try to explain it to you, if you still don't understand I'm positive it's not my problem

>>740840347
The first time I smoked weed it made my heart pound extremely fast and my vision was completely distorted. It can definitely kill you.

>>740842328
How's life, fucktard?

At least I'm gon' lie and say EVERYTHINGS MAGICAL I EAT DICKS AND CUNT YAY!

>>740842821
But if it would be legal there would be no crime

>>740842824
Nigga you just got stoned af retard. That's how everyone's first time is

>>740842824
Then why is it exactly that there has never been a single reported death directly caused by marijuana?

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>>740842907
Yeah and that's not a good thing. It's like using anything for the first time. You don't know what it's gonna do to You And before you say it this can apply to a lot of drugs, they can really fuck you up the first time around of your body isn't used to but that fine though isn't it?

>>740842947
because they kill you if you start writing about it

>>740842817
Source: Dailymail. No actual reference to a peer-reviewed publication. Read the paragraph on potential harms, it basically says "Can trigger schizophrenia in predisposed people" which is known for years (as I've stated).
I'm not trying to imply that weed is without dangers, I'm just trying to educate on the subject. This article is not a legitimate source for informed opinions though.

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Holy retarded bias Batman

>talking about negatives of several substances, all of which are controlled
>weed is some magical panacea with the ability to cure everything and all pain
>it's only a minor pain killer
>it's more carcinogenic than base tobacco
>thinks tobacco companies won't jump on this shit literally as soon as it goes legal and turn it into cigarettes 2: electric bugaloo
>fucks with. Rain chemistry more than any of the other things listed and for longer
>can induce fucking psychosis
>doesn't cure shit, has shown some ability to help treat seizures
>only extracted substances from it are needed so it still doesn't need to be legal

If you're going to shit out a list of cons to a bunch of things as a way to try and justify your own habits at least try to be objective.

Cost benefit retard, you didn't list any of those other things positives either

>>740842887
That's right, there would be brain dead teens instead, surely they'll be a nice future for all of us

>>740842947
The fact that your still trying to use that is laughable, do you honestly still believe that? If so I feel bad for you

>>740840560
>>740841421
It isn't the pharmaceutical companies keeping marijuana illegal. It's the alcohol and tobacco lobbyists. In Nevada, laws were passed that allowed for cultivation and sales of marijuana, but the alcohol lobby forced them to limit distribution to solely alcohol distributors. Meaning, only they can transport it from he grow house to the dispensaries. The fuck kind of sense does that make?

Tl/dr of above: op is to stoned out to form any semblance of an argument or trolling

>>740840433
Please.

Don't get me wrong, weed should be legal, but you're fucking delusional if you think it is completely harmless.

If you're young (and I mean even under 25 for some) it will permanently change your brain chemistry.

If you use it regularly, it will make you a fucking retard.

It also makes you lazy and steals your motivation 10x worse than booze because you get the sensation that you "aren't drunk" so you do that shit all the time.

Change your shitty weed culture and your drug of choice will be legalized.

>>740842337
>I actually did consume in Amsterdam and homegrown from a friend
>Never support organised criminality
If it's true that that's the only source of your weed then I concede the point about homegrow, but I'd be quite surprised to find that just about anyone actually does know for 100% certain where all their weed comes from. Especially when buying it off the street, which as far as I know is far and away the most common way for the average Joe to find their weed.

Keep in mind also though that even legally grown and acquired weed might still contain pesticides and shit. Legally grown tobacco is still deadly, we have no reason to believe marijuana companies would be possessed of too much more ethical sensibilities than their tobacco counterparts. Unless they have 100% transparency in their business model and processes and whatnot, we simply can't know for certain.

>>740843066
So? It's dangerous only to the consumer. Why should it be illegal then? US-Citizens don't even have universal health care, why do you care if I get cancer? Why shouldn't I be able to decide what substances I put into my system?

>>740843083
But again
It's their live, not yours
As long as they don't steal your stuff, harm or threaten you, none of which potheads are known for, it's not your business
If they want to waste their live let them

>>740840347
Weed does kill you nigger.

Just not in the same way.

Same way eating too much unhealthy food kills you. Indirectly.

Yeah, because you totally smoke weed for its health benefits...
Stop pretending you care about health benefits of weed when you just want to get fucked up and eat dry rice cookies.

>>740843206
I mostly get homegrown from friends

>>740843225
And again, it's not just my life, it's the future of everyone by having less and less useful and intelligent people

>>740843284
Winner of thread

>>740843305
You are not entitled to have useful people expect yourself

>>740843305
*except fucking autocorrect

>>740843218
I don't give a shit if it's legal. In all honesty it should be legal and regulated like the rest of the substances above.

I'm pointing out that if you think it's some wonder plant that does nothing to and has more practical uses than normal medication you're completely naive

>>740843202
Aye but it's worth than that.
You use cannabis regularly and you'll develop mental disorders like anxiety, depression, melancholy, psychosis, paranoia, bipolar disorders schizophrenia etc.
The idiots think that since it doesn't kill you outright like smoking that it isn't harmful.

>>740843357
god, you're obsessed with entitlement
i'm not saying i should have useful people, i say that the more useful people there is, the better we'll be

fucking stop with the entitlement bullshit, you just try to twist words the way you'd like your ideological enemy to think

>>740842476
I can't imagine such a general statement to be fully true. Different people react differently to drugs, especially when dosage is taken into account. I've driven quite well when less high, but being too high has distracted me and caused me to run a red light. Luckily nobody was hurt but the point is, all highs are not created equal, and to assume that all of them leave you safe to drive just because one of them does in your case is a bit reckless at best.

>>740843305
Oh LORD

WHAT THE FUCK MAKES YOU SO GOD DAMNED INTELLIGENT YOU NON-SMOKING DOUCHEFUCK

>>740843395
Did you even think about what would happen to society if everyone was forced to breathe second hand smoke or smoke themselves?
The degeneracy of society would become 5x worse than it already is.
But no you don't think. You just want the instant pleasure and relief. Same with the whores that fuck whatever moves.

>>740843459
More useful people are good for everyone for Shure but how can you rectify forbidding someone something that doesn't harm you then?

>>740843395
Legalization means more research hopefully. You can't be informed if there is not much solid knowledge about long-term effects. Im all about informing people and legalizing.

>>740843498
I didn't call myself intelligent, I said people who abuse weed are NOT going to be at their full mental capacity, at all

Calm down, smoke a joint bro

>>740843565
Research WHAT

There is nothing to research

RESEARCH THESE ASHES

>>740843157
An argument against what?

kys stoner

>>740843650
I think your brain is mashed

>>740843536
It harms everyone indirectly, that's the point
Unless it's a hobby with moderation, then I'm perfectly fine with that. There could be safeguards for that, like a monthly limit for example... although I can imagine a lot of contraband going on then, but hey, it's better than this situation.

>>740843218
Fuck while you brought it up, you do realize that shit takes a toll on our medical system in a way that impacts all of us right?

Any health problems you get from it and you have to pay into the system. to say nothing of the cost of when you and your buddies decide to drive high and get in an accident. Now everyone else has to pay the police, fire department and paramedics to go unwrap your car from around a tree.

It gets back to us. Everything does

>>740843594
I ABUSE ALCOHOL, WEED, COFFEE, TOBACCO AND IVE DONE CHEMICALS THAT WOULD MAKE YOU CRY LIKE THE LITTLE CHILD YOU ARE

and I still run my own business with 1M+ yearly margins fuckhead

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Look at those psychosis-ridden, lazy und stupid people from Amsterdam. Truly horrifying.

>>740840347
Das bait again.

Weed fucks up your lungs, 6 times more than cigs.
THC is a drug.
All drugs "heals" stress, depression but it's not permanent. Makes you happy because it's a drug. "heals" pain because you can't feel most of things. Wondering why? Drugs fucks up you brain, that's why.

>>740843724
Who says I didn't?
Also, what the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
Go to bed m8 gr8 b8

>>740843687
Most people pay more than they get in return, that's how the system works. I never drink alcohol, yet I have to pay for all the drunk people who crash their car into a mall. Also, I have to pay for your fucking grandma which fell down the stairs again. Just let her die already.

>>740843509
Idk if you replied to the wrong guy or not, I'm literally only in favor of legalizing it because enforcing its illegality has almost completely failed. At this point it's little more than damage control in multiple mind.

Designated smoking areas, limitation of exposure, some semblance of quality control so some shithead dealer can't dump pcp or some shit in it.

Don't get me wrong, the negatives outway the positives on legalization, just sadly don't see much of an option here

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>>740840347
The only good answer is the Jews don't want you to be happy. They want us to be brain dead zombies.

lol

>>740843898
Fat

>>740843658
An argument in favor of legalization.

Forgot to link my posts. That's on me

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>>740843837
Amsterdam is known for legal prostitution.
Not for dedication to sciences and the pursuit of knowledge.

Stay mad, Eurocuck. Enjoy the rapes.

>>740840974
>mild form of acid

Wut.

>>740843984
>Stay mad, Eurocuck. Enjoy the rapes.
Netherlands isn't even on the fucking chart boi

>>740840347
http://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/colorado-official-marijuana-gateway-drug-homicide/2Tps586MtMc1uxQcXjGNmM/

>>740843849
Firstly, smoking it isn't the only means of ingesting THC, hell it isn't even the preferred method really. So the argument that it fucks up your lungs 6 times more than cigs is moot tbh. Even nicotine can be ingested without smoking it. You're pretty naive. People drink alcohol to gain the temporary benefits of pain and emotional relief and it's perfectly legal. So who the fuck do you think has to gain the most by propagating the myth that "weed" is dangerous? Fuckin dumbass...

>>740844001
Shocker.
A fucking pothead addict that doesn't understand what he puts into his body.

I'll take tetrahydrocannabinolic acid for 500, Alex.

>>740844034
KEK

>>740843984
Ahmad gtfo

>>740843894
So let's add to an already burdened system right? That could only be a positive right?

>>740843684
Just think what would be when all those potheads would cease to exist
That's your point of 0
Do you really think that the number would go down below when they life their live as directionless Mac Donald employees?
Smoking in Moderation is the right way tho when one wants to do it, but the moderation has to come from the people themselves and not from a law

>>740840347
What a retarded Amerilard. You smoked cannabis once and felt good, I get it. Long term (permanent) effects are a different story, fuckwit. Fuck you.

BAN CANNABIS

>>740842356

I ve been Smoking for a good year now. I smoke before work everyday even on First days. Nobody ever gave a shit. Ppl like and respect me anyways. Tho its illegal here in germany too. Back to the point. if your a real stoner you can drive whenever you want im a madman in the Car.. Goin 200 in normal streets and stuff.. Nothing ever happened because luck and Most of all because i think about what i Do. Whenever i had a break Smoking for a few days i locked my Car keys away cause weed without tolerance in the shit xD

>>740840347
Most /b/tards work for government agencies, you are just getting brainwashed servants replying.

>>740841889
>>740841736
>>740841607
Drug dealers are scum, but they're the only people profiting off your stinking asses. If the wider society acted like your drug dealer (zero fucks given, kill you if you don't pay up), I'd have less of a problem making it legal. Addicts don't deserve an inch and you're already a burden by your very existence when interacting with normal people.

>>740844064
>6 times more than cigs is moot tbh.
Can you tell me what people (mostly) doing for taking thc?

Correct, smoking it. You can't even filter the weed smoke unlike cigs.

Weed is a drug, no matter what you post, what pill you take (you always taking the blue one).

>>740840433
wrong
it creates excess dopamine receptors and does make people lazier
when theres an inbalance of dopamine and seratonin some people who were predisposed to schizeophrenia are more likely to develop it earlier

>>740840505
if anything it would increase a more deadly crime
when colarado first made it legal, the mexican cartles no longer saw profit from their shittt ditch weed and good shit
so they amped up heroin production
its part of why its grown in issue recently


ignoring those other reasons there are many useful things for hemp to be used for
however some retards getting high with the bud isnt one
people who smoke pot need to quit being a loser and grow up
most of you are teenagers who think weeds the coolest shit on the planet

>>740844226
>implying I interact with drug dealers

>>740843849
1. Weed dosnt fuck up your lungs. Smoke does. From anything.

2. Who the fuck said you have to smoke weed, dumbass?

>>740843979
The argument is moot. Why not legalize it? Because it's "bad"? Worse than alcohol? Who cares? Are you a bible thumping Christian or do you just enjoy arguing with people?

Here's the truth about potheads, stoners, whatever (am one for 'bout decade)

You smoke to get high, but you don't get as high as that one time, so you keep smoking anyway and never get that high again

That's weed (and basically ever other drug on the planet), in a nutshell

Fuck yourselves, faggots

>>740840398
/thread

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>>740840347
you live in the wrong place.
legal here, almost.

>>740840460
this pretty much explains it all

legalization is inevitable. as with all social laws enacted through the medium of personal prejudice. prohibition doesn't work.

>>740844289
>1. Weed dosnt fuck up your lungs. Smoke does. From anything.

>6x+ more bitumen
>Can't fuck your lungs
What a fucking stupid you are!

>>740844297
Or you know... Maybe lay off the weed a little bit for 3 or 4 days.... Preferably 2 weeks... And start getting high af every time. When it dwindles town, take a tolerance break again and again and again.

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>>740840347
Been smoking more weed and it makes me feel better it turns me into the man I know I am and not a little depressed bitch tbh smh fam

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>>740844453
you sounds like a beta teenager

>weed
>THC
>strains
>positief effects
>negative effects

>>740844453
Real talk ma niggah

>>740840754
>Does marijuana.
>Why yes hello, I would like to order 2 marijuanas please.

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>>740840347

>Dosnt kill you
Plenty of people die every year from weed, either directly or indirectly. It raises your heart rate and blood pressure which isnt good if you have a condition, knowingly or unkowingly. Also people have been known to get themseleves killed or kill themselves after smoking too much and having an unpleasant green out. Especially on edibles. Then you have the people who have a psychotic episode after smoking a bowl of mindmelter panic OG or whatever, and end up killing other people.

>heals all stress
My experience with weed (both indica and sativa) is that it escalated my anxiety problems greatly, made me paranoid even around family and made me almost mute in social situations.

>heals all depression

Not true at all, depleting all your serotonin/dopamine trying to get high is not a good thing at all for people with actual depression.

>makes you chill and happy
>makes you have a good time
sometimes by the time I stopped it was kinda 50/50 whether id have a good time or be thrown into uncomfortable paranoid existential crisis mode.

>heals all pain
Or uncontrollably causes bad experiences from fucking 15 years ago to randomly pop back into your mind and make you experience them all over again

>>740844432
Why the fuck would I take a tolerance break when there's stronger shit in the first place.

Oh right, I'm some bitch that doesn't have balls.

>>740844499
the way you consume it

>>740844291
>>740844291
>comes into a debate thread
>is surprised when people argue with him
Ok then.

And the point was he made a terrible comparison in the op that was completely logically unsound.

If you want to argue for something don't get pissy when people point out you don't have an argument.

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inhaling anything that isn't air into the lungs is bad for you

>>740844566
Lmao pure fucking bs. Show me articles that show marijuana made someone kill themselves... Please. I'd like to read it.

>>740844629
THE AIR IS SO GEWD

I SUCK AIR DICK

>>740844581
you can smoke weed..
but to much will make you slow!
you need to find the right balance..
and with weed you easly smoke to much..
ik can effect your diet..
your mental state..
you get addicted..
when you are addicted and your kicking off.
you feel like you have taken some xtc pills of speed.. you will feel more energie..
and its how you use that energie..
try to use it in a positief way..

>>740844494
While that stereotype is spot on I'm not insulted by your remarks since you're probably more or less autistic as me.

>>740840799
Pretty sure nobody wants to be that guy who stood up for Loli porn publically

>>740844566
this might be /b/
but you still don't spout out like this without presenting empirical facts.

you're spouting the same bullshit that the authorities have shoved up us for nearly 100 years. all of it has been proven to be untrue. repeatedly.

now, get you're head out of you're uninformed great grand daddy's ass.

>>740844566
>Or uncontrollably causes bad experiences from fucking 15 years ago to randomly pop back into your mind and make you experience them all over again
The weed is just showing you things you hide in the back of your mind learn to deal with them

>>740844895
I agree. That fag really said marijuana makes you go kill yourself over edibles kek.

He should try it for himself, his opinion will surely change

>>740845000
When I smoke weed, Holy shit I do think about stuff that's happened many years ago that never popped in my head.. But I don't get embarrassed from them again or feel sad.

That OP is just a social outcast nerd

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>>740844803
>mfw
so you admit to being underaged
and I like how you continued to be a beta

>>740844479
So is that what you breathe in when your backyard is on fire?

WHOA DUDE

MEANWHILE, DROUTS BURNING YOUR NATION REEEEEE

>>740844684
>every suicide in the world is reported on the news.

maybe not suicides, but heres a couple of guys who ending up killing other people after blazing 420 xD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Palmira_Silva

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-21227557

>>740845084
18 and 19 is teenage but not underage

>>740844895
>>740845017
I like how much of that anons post you actually read
>my experience

and if you weren't an autistic stoner you'd know its a figure of speech

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>>740845084
I'm 19 that's underage? And your the alpha male on 4chan on a weed thread on /b/? We both know we're beta atleast I have the balls to admit it yet you hide behind your phone or laptop and act like you aren't lmao

>>740845117
you know damn well what I meant when I said teenage

>>740844895
>>740845017

jesus christ if you actually read what i wrote youd know that i wrote from personal experience. I visited the ''Dam like twice a year on average from the ages of 20-28, have experienced weed in every form multiple times. Dont think that just because weed is cool now it wont turn on you down the road.

>>740845267
An age between and including 13 and 19

>>740843446
Not a pothead but this statement has no scientific base to it.

>>740845242
not him but you do sound like a immature beta
you'll understand when you grow up mentally

>>740841259
Of that whole caffeine bullshit was true, I'd be dead by the time I was 15. Or I'd do like you said and be chilling with Robert E. Lee right now in the coffee time travel statistic.

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>>740845242
see
>>740845267
not everyone on 4chan is a sperg buddy
some of us have good social skills and enjoy our lives
I never claimed to be an alpha
also pic related
its you

>>740840347
>muh weed bro
>muh cannabis breh
>muh medicine brah
Weed isnt a magic cure-all, faggot. Weed is degenerate and for niggers

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

People, I've smoked thousands of times, I do not get high that often!

And when I do get REALLY high, I knew it was going to happen, I had no tolerance or I was sideways

But saying HUR HUR I SMOKE GET HIGH E'RY DAY

Is a blatant lie

>>740841259
Hey look guys. It's liberal science.

AKA random facts made up by someone with a gender studies major.

>>740840433
*Points to kinder eggs*

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>>740845369
Your grown up mentally and still on /b/ Jesus Christ get a life neets l0l

>>740845544
and yet you type like you're 13

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>>740845430
i dont get it

>>740845471
What are you on about Scooter?

>>740845710
I know

>>740843446
You they these mental disorders are caused by weed?
Do you have proper proof of that?

>>740845870
The only mental disorder that even exists is something called your fucked up little mind.

>>740840347
>ciggeretes
This is an 11 year old child.
MODS. MODS. MODS.

>>740845870
Gah just woke up, I'm sober if you don't count caffeine.
you say these*