I have just been through a marathon of like 30+ 9/11 conspiracy

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>>740788192

Yes you're a retard

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>>740788192
Mt thoughts are that you're a faggot

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>>740788514
Jesus christ are you retards trolling me or are you seriously that retarded? kys faggots

>>740788467
Not even close to america, nice try faggot

>>740788192
Yawn this stupidity bores us.

You're a fucking retard. Arabs jacked planes and flew them into buildings

GUYS I JUST WATCHED A BUNCHA VIDEOS WHO'S CONCLUSION WAS THAT 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB...AND SINCE IM RETARDED I AGREED!

>>740788863
Just go look at how the building collapsed you subhuman retard

>inside job
>happened outside in broad daylight
DURRR

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>>740788192

The thing is mate, nobody cares anymore.

>>740788953
The proof is there, you probably voted for hillary huh? fucking retard

>>740788192
My thoughts are that u gonna meet Van Darkholme

>>740788192
All three collapses were inconsistent with controlled demolition.

>>740789028
why are you showing interest by replying you nigger?

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Proof

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqhr_f7MTjQ

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>>740788192

Kek

People believe it's fake because it didn't tip over
ITS NOT FUCKING JENGA YOU DUMB FUCKS!

Op is really desperate for attention. C'mon bros let's help the little guy out

>>740788192
Explain

>>740788192

What is your evidence besides "it's so fucking obvious" ?

I have also been looking into this recently, but, I can't say that you are wrong, or right either. We will never know for sure, but I am more on the side that it wasn't a controlled demolition

The reasons are that there is no footage of any explosions

The way the building was constructed made it susceptible to that kind of collapse, most sky scrapers are built to taper off towards the top. but this one exactly the same floor space all the way to the top.

It is at the very least, possible for the official story to be true, and also possible for the conspiracies to be true.

Planes definitely hit the towers though, anyone who denies that is a fucking retard.

>>740789143
oh shit!!
9/11's rule 34

i never knew i 'd see this some day

>>740789571
>>740789496
>The reasons are that there is no footage of any explosions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGAofwkAOlo


Every expert that says something about it says it definitely was a controlled demolition

>>740788192
just because you watched 30 videos about something doesnt mean youre not a moron

>>740788192
Twas the Jews! Israel planned the whole thing and bush supported it for the riches of war

>>740789496
>>740789571
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IgqJXyLbg

>>740789880
Everybody knows videos are proof.
https://youtu.be/QQbTPsaT9ls

>>740788192
It's a slippery slope, anon. Next you'll be watching chemtrail videos. Then you'll be watching flat earth videos. By then it will be too late.

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>>740788192
>have just binged 30+ conspiracy videos
>now tottaly believe whatever they were pushin

Do some fucking critical thinking for yourself faggot

>>740790114
Youre quite a special retard, arent you?

>>740789856
Not true. Everybody who says it was definitely a controlled demolition calls themselves an "expert". The real scientific consensus is different.

>>740788192
why didn't you finish the 31st video?

>>740789856
That video had no explosions or even a sound of explosion. That seems very fishy for the controlled demolition theory

>>740790174
If anyone believes that a building like that can collapse because of fire that lasted less than an hour is a subhuman nigger retard

>>740789856
The building starts to collapse before the clouds billow out. If you're talking about the sudden expulsion of clouds and fire, that's easily explained by the video you just posted.

As the structural steel gave way and the floors started to collapse you had an entire floor get pancaked. All the air between the ground and the ceiling gets expelled. Along with smoke and fire that's there due to the plane crash.

>>740790245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IgqJXyLbg

>>740790320
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5IgqJXyLbg

>>740789856

That video doesn't show an explosion

what you are looking at is the atmosphere around the central fires becoming compressed and being forced out of the air space it was in.

The top of the tower begins falling before this point.

Not every expert says it is a controlled demolition, that is not true.

It certainly looks like a controlled demolition, that is clear, but there is no actual evidence to suggest that it was anything other than a weakened structure collapsing under it's own weight.

>>740788192
Amazing job, OP. You must be a genius or something. Now Google "how to make an exit bag" and kill yourself for wasting everyone's time.

>>740790441
>>740790350
>>740790320
>>740790245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7Rm6ZFROmc

if this is not enough then you people are beyond help

>>740788192
you literally wouldnt need demolition materials. planes hit the building, right? the weight of the floors collapsing on the bottom floors is more than enough to bring the whole building down.

what more needs to be said? hitting a building with a fucking plane works

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>>740790340
>cause of a fire
Yeah let's just forget about other destabilizing factors. Such as a jet smashing into the towers, the explosion that would follow such an event and only focus on the fire because it fits our retarded theory.
Fucking kek

>>740788192
Politics and crime – they are the same thing.
– Commendatore Michael Corleone

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>>740788192
NO NO NO!
You stop saying bad thing bout muh guberment!
They protect and keep me warm and fuzzy at night!
They would nevar hurt people excep[t for ugly people who are not Amerkan!

NO NO NO!
I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA LA!!!!!!!

>>740788863
…and then, miraculously, survived.

>>740790664
The government says the building collapsed due to fire

>>740790645

I don't think there is anyone suggesting it doesn't look like a controlled demolition

Nobody disagrees with you on this point.

But covering yourself in yellow feathers doesn't make you big bird.

Where is your

>EVIDENCE

not some shady video of a guy telling us his opinion

not more footage of the buildings collapsing, we know they collapsed, we have seen this

where is your actual evidence?

>>740790780
wut

>>740788863
Clever Arabs! First time they ever flew birds that big and yet managed to fly at twice the maximum airspeed possible for that altitude.

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>>740788192
It was a conspiracy and definitely a cover up (See redacted pages of 9-11 commission report) but I don't see anything that convinces me there were definitely explosive charges supplementing the jet-plane bombings.

The physics actually aren't that crazy when you look at the shitty design of the towers.
Furthermore whenever I watch the collapses it appears they are falling from the top down, like "the pancake effect" theory, not the whole structure collapsing altogether like the controlled demolitions I've watched for comparison.

>>740788192
Your daily existence is bathed in a sense of intellecual inferiority, caused by your intellectual inferiority. In your pain you ascribe this incomperhensible act to actors of that state which has always done things that were incomprehensible to you, thus causing you pain.

Not to mention, that 4 black boxes, which are deemd so fucking strond and sturdy, were destroyed, yet FBI found 2 passports made out of PAPER, hmmmm?

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>>740789856
BBC will get the news before it happens!

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>>740788192

What most people aren't aware of is the the N.Y. attack was a distraction from the actual target which was a rocket fired at the pentagon to show that 'no one is untouchable'

Honestly, the most classified info you will ever hear in your lifetime.
THIS is where the majority of the 'coverup' actually stems from.

>>740790382
So where are the reports of these multiple blasts?

>>740790846
Sauce?

I watched the towers fall several times, look at the debris, looked at the conspiracies, looked at the towers before they fell, watched the planes impact and explode, I even went through the trouble of looking at how the towers were built. It may as well be a meme. Even if it was a controlled demolition, planes went in, and didn't come out. If they went in and didn't come back out, all pieces of the plane accounted for, then pieces of the planes, if not the majority of the planes, went somewhere. Somewhere inside the building. Obviously, through it. Maybe even down it.

Regarding a controlled demolition: the outer beams were allegedly built to withstand more stress and damage than the inner structure, and anything remotely close to a staggered detonation near or around the outside of the building's frame would be immediately visible. Pieces of the building would've flown off
>up
and out from the alleged detonations, instead of scenes where you could see pieces of steel beams exposed on the face of the outside of the first falling tower bucking, and them shearing moments before it fell. As to the reason the building itself fell, if the framework was meant to be so good? The temperatures, fueled by all kinds of things that burn well, probably didn't melt anything keeping the structure standing. But it more than likely made the inner portion of the structure soft and shitty. On top of an entire plane flying into it; it's a big flying tube of aluminum and smaller moving pieces of assorted harder metals, turned into flying scrap after impact, pieces of it probably becoming shrapnel after the volatile fuel combusted.

It was a building that stood for longer than it should have. If it took that long, the heat probably helped finish what an entire jet started.

If anything, you should be thinking that the government/s at the time could've stopped 9/11, and didn't, as this event could've been what they needed to start the war/s to destroy those "weapons of mass destruction".

>>740791144
jet fuel probably spread out over a large area and simply burned itself off quickly, it doesnt matter how hot it burns, it takes time to burn through a tree

>>740791040
Papers from WTC were fluttering all over town, unburnt.

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>>740790441
In the century that steel skyscrapers have been in use, only three have come down from mishap. All three fell on 9/11 and all three belonged to Lucky Larry.
Meanwhile, in London, jet fuel doesn't melt steel beams.

>>740788192
You have to much faith in the competency of government.

>>740791127
NY Fire Dept, expected WTC7 to collapse hour before it happened.

>>740789856
You didn't need a demolition you stupid faggot, just fly cunting jumbo jets into the cunting thing. Why do conspiracy theorists do this shit? They had fucking planes, they wouldn't need christing demolitions you stupid nut fuck.

>>740788192
>30+ 9/11 conspiracy videos
So did you watch the videos debunking those videos? How about the many sites dedicated to debunking them?

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Sand nigger or truly just fucking dumb?

>>740791040
Not every floor was consumed by fire and death. It's highly likely that debris from the plane got shot out before it had a chance to burn. That's how
>>740791417
happened. I guarantee there were probably a lot of unburnt objects in the rubble.

>>740790904
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1559151.stm

>>740791040
http://www.911myths.com/index.php?title=The_Black_Boxes

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>>740788192
I suggest watching 30+ debunking videos and see if you feel the same way. And if you do, please kill yourself immediately so we can get rid of your iq destroying genes.

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>>740791346
>jet fuel probably spread out over a large area and simply burned itself off quickly.
>Ignoring the details of the photo showing virtually nothing but two trees were charred.
>takes time to burn through tree
>implying takes more time than to melt steel beams

People who believe 9/11 was an inside job do so to protect their belief that Muslims are harmless.

>>740791719
http://www.911myths.com/index.php?title=The_Hijackers

>>740790846
Oh okay.. Sure they do faggot.

Its common fucking knowledge that planes where crashed into the towers. And Its pretty fucking basic that this would have a destabilizing effects on the towers structural integrity.

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ayy lmao

>>740788192
The truth is that Arab jihadists do hate us and wish to kill us. That's what they did on this day.

>>740791780
Thank you for helping me fight these retards off, jesus christ fucking subhumans

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>>740791780
>implying the same amount of fuel was released
>implying fuel doesn't soak Into soil
>implying when a forest fire happens all trees are burnt to the ground
>implying a fire in a building doesn't act like an oven

>>740791841
Im a christian, hate muslims, i just believe in it cause there is so much evidence that even a child can connect the dots

>>740791841
Useful idiots aren't necessarily harmless. That's what they are to the government, going back to the 1970's when they allied with and funded Bin Laden, to present time when they've armed more jihadists in the Middle East

>>740790120
The earth's flat

>>740792056
You believe in an orchestrated conspiracy because you watched a fucking YouTube video. You are possibly the dumbest man on 4chan right now.

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>>740791841
>to protect their belief that Muslims are harmless
Which they probably should as the majority of the perception that Muslims were responsible stems from Israeli covert agenda of CREATING the illusion that Islam and Muslims are/is an enemy religion and people of the United States.

When in fact Islam and Muslims are the enemy of Israel, who are responsible for 9/11.

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>>740792028
If, by "us", you mean MuriKKKans, I got a news-flash for you. Jews just might be more unpopular than you lot, but I wouldn't put that to a vote if I were you.

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>>740792258

>>740792251
You actually believe the official stories, leave please

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>>740792258
.

>>740792158
>Im a christian, hate muslims,
You are breaking one of Christ's most important commandments. Shame on you.
>John 13:34
>John 15:12

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>>740790245
Please explain greenfell tower then faggot? 13+hours of burning and it was still standing

https://youtu.be/uSuV-tgeXd8

>>740792486
And let's not forget the Dancing Israelis.

Is this a joke? Do you people not understand that conspiracy videos are purposely made in such a way that it causes hysteria?
If the videos were not made this way unfortunately they would not receive as many views. Do you people not know that you are being fed a product? Please learn about marketing and its effects specifically in this case of media marketing, and also the structure of youtube would quite possibly help

>>740792500
Ohh I don't know the difference, perhaps it was the fact of the materials it was made of?
Or quite possibly because a fucking passenger jet didn't fly directly into it!?

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>>740792486
>>740792258

>>740792500
Grenfell Tower wasn't packed with nanothermite.

>>740790891
>>740790245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-VNjYXU-CE

Here's a video of researchers recreating the incident from scratch. They come up with different results from what the official reason for collapse is. They have several 50 minute lectures you can skim through if you're interested, but I just wanted to show that there isn't, in fact, a common consensus among academia.

Is 9/11 real if the earths flat?

>>740792158
Only children can't critically think beyond YouTube conspiracy theories. Anybody with a brain knows that a giant fucking hunk of metal colliding with a glass, brick and steel structure at retarded speeds is going to cause destruction. Only a fucking fool would even attempt to bring notion of explosions in, why the fuck would they? They could just pay a few hijacker's families to do it, no demolitions needed. These conspiracies aren't even in a realm of intelligent thought, they are children's fables designed to engage morons and fool them into thinking they are a part of discovering something bigger using false equations and false experts. They're an interesting and inaccurate world, but childish nonetheless. Just take a look at who buys into these conspiracies, people who believe everything they see on blurry YouTube videos made by Extremegov45 or Illuminaticatcher67. It's a fun pastime, but ultimately is only engaged in by mentally vulnerable people.

I remember the first time I stumbled upon that part of YouTube, too. 'Twas many years ago.

Still, 9/11 was an inside job, Alex Jones said so.

>>740792640
There actually is reason to believe that atleast WTC 7 wasn't an accident.

>>740792761
Larry also got twice the compensation for his buildings than insurance law permits. Very odd, that.

>>740792738
Okay so lets pretend the jet is like a lumberjacks axe. What happens to the tree when the axe hits hits it? The tree topples over......it doesnt come concaving downward like the towers did. Also faggot world trade center building 7 never had a jet crash into it yet it fell the exact same way as the main two?

>>740793012
>brick

>>740792486
Thats retarded the twin towers have been attacked before by terrorist of course hes gonna have insurance that covers terrorist attacks

>>740793012
Those conspiracy videos also say that the plane was edited in and that nothing hit the towers, which i dont think its remotely true, but everything else is just solid evidence (OP)

>>740788192

Lee Harvey Oswald did it!

>>740788448
Now you'll be called a "retard" by dozens of people because you posted clear and confirmable evidence of a physical phenomenon.

Here are a few reasons why fucktards see conspiracy everywhere..

Here a couple cognitive biases (which some people are more prone to than others) that predispose people to see conspiracy:

Proportionality bias - something of such magnitude, such as 9/11, is hard to comprehend when you think some Muslims hijacked planes and flew them into buildings. It sounds too easy and doesn't fit the magnitude of the event. So people need to feel like something bigger happened, such as government involvement and demolition etc.

Projection - people who-if they were in the governments shoes-would conspire themselves, are more likely to believe that the government would perpetuate such acts. These people can also see the world in their view and not anyone else's

Also, people from disadvantaged groups tend to believe in conspiracy theories. Such as ethnic minorities (government is against them-which is probably partly true, but not to the extent they'd think). Losers believe in conspiracy theories. By losers, I mean those on the losing side. This could be politics, when the right are in power the left tend to believe the right are conspiring (russia collusion),when the left are in power the right tend to think there is a conspiracy against them (obama birther).

There's other obvious predictors of conspiracy belief - lower interpersonal trust, low trust in authorities, low self-esteem, and belief in paranormal and superstitions.

There are tons of other reasons and I'd suggest you look at the research so you can understand why your deficient self believes in conspiracy theories.

>>740793114
>Also faggot world trade center building 7 never had a jet crash into it yet it fell the exact same way as the main two?

Also this, ill say it again, concrete evidence

>>740792399
Yes, an official story has more credibility than a YouTube video, you mentally disabled moron. How does it feel to be at the absolute bottom rung of human intelligence while simultaneously thinking you've found a hidden secret and are smarter than everyone? How does that feel? That you're so stupid your only defense is a condescending dismissal of people en mass you believe to be "sheep"? What is it like to be able to think and breathe, but have no intellectual capacity to avoid deception on something as obviously fake as a YouTube video?

>>740793114
Are you really implying that a jet going into a sky scraper is similar to cutting down a tree with an axe?

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>>740793114
>hurr durr if i fell a tree it topples over
>I can totally physics
Worst fucking analogy i've ever fucking heard

>>740793326
TFW some anonymous tard on a random anime board calls UAF researchers retards

>>740793311
The building was in bad shape and two planes collided into buildings near it. Go figure.

It's called a "theory" because you can't prove it.

And you can't prove it because it didn't happen.

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>>740793311
Evading my first point anon? Lolol

explain this faggots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxoGX5m1Q6k


The way she looked at him, consp...*says something else*

>>740793114
This is so fucking stupid it makes me want to hurt people

>>740793285
That's a whole lot of words when you could have just said: "I'm trying to look intelligent on the internet".

>>740788192
have you watched ryan dawsons war by deception
what are your thaoughts on him and his explination of the 911

>>740793472
>Lolol

stop existing, please

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>>740793681
KEK, exactly this

>>740793681
He's right though. At least he doesn't feel retarded when he posts, like you.

>>740793510
This doesn't support the fact that it was a conspiracy.
A. This would cannot be used as evidence
B. That president wasn't exactly know for his quality speech skills (he once said that he belives people can co-exist with fish) his speeches were awful and mistakes consistently happen throughout them
C. Even if what you are implying is true it would state that it would have to have been a conspiracy that even the president was unaware of and therefire not part of, which is a major point in conspiracy theories involving 9/11

>>740791469
I hate you and hope you die painfully, and soon.
You know as well as I do that no airplane hit Grenfell Tower.

>>740793681
So I join in the thread with my knowledge on the psychology of conspiracy belief and I'm just trying to look intelligent?
or
I'm just enlightening the fucktards?

It's the latter

>>740793326
>Yes, an official story has more credibility than a YouTube video,
When it's the government making the story, the credibility becomes as questionable as those stupid youtube videos.

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>>740790245
>real scientific consensus
>same "scientists" that tell us eggs are "bad" one week and 'good' the next
>same scientist hired by the government to back up the governments claims.

Everyone in this thread, except me of course, is a complete and utter moron.

I mean, you actually think terrorists hijacked planes and flew them into multiple buildings? How stupid are you? It was clearly the government testing out their electromagnetic railgun technology, in which they shot directly at the building, disguised, using holograms as airplanes.

Fucking amateurs.

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Have any of you conspiracy faggots actually had a personal critical thought.
Or do you get all you world views from poorly orcestrated youtube videos andother biased medias? Just wondering??

>>740793472
Nope, the devestation of a tower collapsing would blatently cause damage to the surronding buildings, and due to the the attack itself they choose to not repair the damage due to the magnitude of the attack, I thought this point irrelevant as it can easily be answered, unless you dont belive that skyscrapers collapsing can cause damage?

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>>740794074

>>740793472
Also that was not your first point but your second? Or is this another conspiracy

>>740788659
>calling everyone that disagrees with you a faggot
quality comeback right there folks

Wanna know what else is funny?

People who believe the conspiracy that Osama Bin Laden died yearrrss before America got him, also believe that he's still alive

Google:

Dead and Alive: Beliefs in Contradictory
Conspiracy Theories

>>740794146
In the case of WTC 7, it was actually checked out by the fire department and they declared it didn't pose a threat to the building integrity. Obviously they could have been wrong, but I'm just trying to show that there's reason to be suspicious about that incident.

>>740791780
Steel conducts heat much morre efficiently than a tree trunk. A steel beam will melt literally hundreds of times faster than a tree trunk will burn.

>>740792486
>>740792761
Do some fucking fact checking.
http://www.snopes.com/wtc-terrorism-insurance/

>>740794186
Omg like whats the difference? They all had fires and only 1 fell omg how stupid are you people?
Ohh wait now I remember the wtc has a fucking plane fly into it

>>740793326
Sadly, official stories are less credible than YouTube videos. Fairly recently it came to light, for example, that Pearl Harbor was not a surprise attack.
Machiavelli suggests to The Prince that his subjects need to be controlled by false-flag outrages. Tacitus mentions this technique in his Histories as does Procopius in his Secret History.
Consequently, the official policy is to discredit any suggestion of a false flag by dismissing the person who suggests such a thing as "conspiracy theorist". We are not supposed to notice the man behind the curtain.

>>740791127

Why would they tell british journalists if they want to keep it secret? lol

>>740788192
gee, which 9/11 thread should I post in, this one or >>740773647

>>740794405
The official word on fires being the cause is for WTC 7, not the primary two towers.

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>>740794186
Was the Windsor building hit by a fucking plane?

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>>740794136
>Have any of you conspiracy faggots actually had a personal critical thought.
>Or do you get all you world views from poorly orcestrated youtube videos andother biased medias? Just wondering??
>translation: why are you not blinding believing your trustworthy government who is trustworthy and trustworthy and has only increased your national debt because 30billion of your U.S. taxes goes to support Israel?

fixed

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and dubs of truth are checked!

>>740791144
Can you elaborate please

>>740794351
No it didn't, but as stated they didn't want to repair the damage it was a decision made in respect the the attack, so that it remains as a memorial of what once happened

>>740788192
argument from ignorance. haw haw.

>>740794438
Or you could just hire some hijackers.

Pretty simple, no explosions needed. That's what makes so many of these conspiracies ludicrous.

>>740794593
What? They let a building fall to serve as a memorial?

>>740794074
Pretty much this. Scientists are used for politically persuasion and justification by all governments and big corporations. It doesn't mean their reports and findings are just and sound. It means they are backed by money and power and those who disagree are shunned and oppressed.

>>740794384
>Snopes
GTFO with that bullshit

>>740794535
No, but neither was WTC 7.

>>740794558
Russian meteorites? Wasn't that years after when everyone had cameras? These are such flimsy reasons.

>>740794438
>Official stories sre less credible than youtube videos.

Yes. If you're either completely drained of intelligent thoughts or if you have the preconcieved opinion thatved the government lies to its people

>>740788192
>your thoughts /b/?

You're extremely gullible and possibly retarded.

>>740793472
Your abjectly retarded first point implying that a collapsing megastructure like a WTC tower is the same as a tree falling?

>>740794558
the only video footage of that incident in your image was removed from public record
wonder why?
it looks like a cruise missile, not a plane
tfw ww3 started ages ago but they pretend it didnt

>>740794284
well there's no point talking to 9/11 truthers so insult them and move on

>>740793510
con·spir·a·cy
kənˈspirəsē/Submit
noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.
"a conspiracy to destroy the government"

implying a conspiracy can't be carried out by terrorists. he only refrained from using that word because he knows you retards would take it and run with it. jesus christ

>>740794699
Do you really not understand the magnitude of this attack?

>>740793463
go jump off a roof to see if the theory of gravity is true

>>740794788
>No, but neither was WTC 7.

No, it was hit by a fucking huge piece of tower 2. Sorry you can't even get the basic story straight so you can debunk it.

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>>740794821
>Wasn't that years after when everyone had cameras
>The pentagon which has numerous cameras around it and did at the time.

Excellent schilling.

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>>740794862
>if you have the preconcieved opinion thatved the government lies to its people

>>740795013
I belive that is a proven theory

>>740794558
>have anyof you ever had a personal critical thought
>answers by constructing retarded argumentation on sone irrelevant subject

Never go full retard faggot

>>740795024
>"FEMA made preliminary findings that the collapse was not primarily caused by actual impact damage from the collapse of 1 WTC and 2 WTC but by fires on multiple stories ignited by debris from the other two towers that continued burning unabated due to lack of water for sprinklers or manual firefighting."

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>>740793979
No plane hit this beam, either:
>>740788448
Since you mention it, though, what about the physics of an aluminium plane hitting steel beams and concrete of tremendous mass?
The WTC towers were designed to withstand a collision with a Boeing 707. FEMA acknowledged that fact in 2002. As such it is unlikely that 767s could turn them to dust.

>>740789571
why would they hurt their own people, to start war?

>>740795385
Newtons second law? Cmon you should know this

>>740795419
Someone never read the Chilcot report.

>>740795125
That picture is literally a fucking lie that somebody sat down and created. Six out of ten members have not admitted there was a cover up, that's a bald faced lie. How can you even think this when you're on the internet and can check?

>>740794987
Just to make this clear so it's not a complete shit-slinging conversation, you think they let WTC 7 fall because they wanted it to serve as a memorial? Not because of the official reason that "they couldn't extinguish the fires"?

>>740794788
It was hit by A FALLING SKYSCRAPER YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID

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>>740795228
Answers that then.
Always easier to believe theories that supports your world view. And also always easier to engage in research if it fits just that.

Atleast it's clearly a problem if you find those unbelievably biased videos from youtube more believeable than the overwhelming evidence of the official statements

>>740795330
Yes, it was hit by a piece of debris. Then it collapsed. Thank you for proving me correct with an actual quote.

>>740795419
They wouldn't, theorists may refer to the plans to do so in the cuban missile crisis however it was almost instantly scrapped after it was understood that even if the plans were successful if anyone found out it would almost certainly dismantle the american government, therefore government planned terrorism poses more risks than the successful outcome

>>740794535
The Empire State Building was hit by a plane. A fucking B-25. Only eleven people died and the building is still standing. Unless that's a hologram meant to fool us.

>>740795725
I'll post it again because you can't read the thread and we've got either trolls or astroturfers in here so the more this information is out the better:

>>"FEMA made preliminary findings that the collapse was not primarily caused by actual impact damage from the collapse of 1 WTC and 2 WTC but by fires on multiple stories ignited by debris from the other two towers that continued burning unabated due to lack of water for sprinklers or manual firefighting."

>>740795844
From fires. I know it got hit, but the official reason FEMA gave was fires, not the damage from the debris.

>>740795628
Yes, it serves as a better purpose to be a memorial so that people can truly remember the events of that day, It now remains as an historic site which will be remembered throughout history as the worst, most shockong and horrific terrorist attack which has even targeted western civilisation

>>740795876
1. Compare the Empire State building to the WTC towers.
2. Compare the B-25 to the 767s.

It really is different.

>>740795876
A B-52 is one third the size of a Boeing 757.

>>740796056
The fire is from the debris

>>740795991
> preliminary findings
Why not post the final findings? Because the final findings acknowledge that neither fire nor impact caused the collapse alone, but BOTH types of damage contributed to the final collapse. You use old data because more recent data does not support your preconceptions.

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>>740794625
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/personal-incredulity

>>740796153
You can't buy this kind of stupid.

>>740794593
I believe there is an audio recording of Lucky Larry ordering the demolition of WTC7. He said "Okay, pull it." And yet all those other buildings in the area were just fine, if a bit dusty.

>>740789856
Yea, there are plumes of smoke ejecting out the sides of the building ~20 stories below as it falls and multiple eye witness accounts of hearing very loud blasts at the bottom floors before the towers collapsed. I don't know though, I just.. They wouldn't do that. Not even Bush.

But Cheney...

>>740796410
country grown vegetables

>>740796410
I am not saying that the building was bot damaged however it wasn't damged beyond repair ive said this in my original statement, however this isn't what bothers me, what bothers me that you dont understand the value of an historic site?

>>740791151
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjmktbt-F_Q

>>740796779
>>740791151
This. You can't say this isn't fucking sketchy as fuck dude.

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>>740795725

I don't even see any debris hitting it, much less a skyscraper.
Try again, shill.

>>740795725
>YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID
Tsk tsk tsk.
WTC7 looked perfectly fine half an hour before it came down. See it here:
>>740791127
The skyscrapers didn't fall onto one another. They came straight down.

>>740795844
And yet people were still working inside when the demolition order came in.

>>740796210
>>740796240

I was curious about the size comparisons so I checked.

757 Height: 13.6 m
757 Length: 47 to 54 m
757 Wingspan: 38 m
757 Empty weight: 84,360 kg

B-52 Height: 12.4 m
B-52 Length: 48.5 m
B-52 Wingspan: 56.4 m
B-52 Empty weight: 83,250 kg

WTC Area: 63 m x 63 m
Empire State Building area: 130 m x 57 m

>>740791151
There's also reports of strange seismic activity, although those have mostly been "debunked".

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>>740796980
They even have Lucky Larry on camera saying "We made the decision to 'bring it down (sic)' ..."

>>740796980
>WTC7 looked perfectly fine half an hour before it came down.

Yes, and then it got hit by gigantic flaming wreckage from the North tower. Fire plus collision tends to knock things down. Ever look at the end of a cigarette? You can keep a surprising amount of structural integrity on something that's burnt, but even a slight breeze could bring the whole thing crumbling down, which is exactly what happened.

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>>740791151

>>740788192
no try a marathon of 30+ science videos related to each topic. eg. one about controlled demolitions, one about weakening steelbeams, one about thermite, one where 9-11 is explained by non-conspiritards. etc.

start here:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=disproves+9-11+conspiracy

then google "9-11 conspiracies debunked"

>>740788192
Weak willed fool

>>740797342
It got hit by that wreckage WAY earlier than half an hour before it went down.

>>740795725
So the debry in conjunction with the fire just HAPPENED to burn the EXACT columns that held up the entire structure of the building and the fire burned them evenly, and weakened them to the point of complete collapse at the same exact time?

The fires in both trade centers happened to do the same thing? weaken all of the main structural beams, evenly, at the same time so the structural integrity failed at the same rate, simultaneously creating a perfect, almost gravity defying collapse?

Im skeptical.

>>740797094
Great, but American Airlines Flight 11 was a Boeing 767-223ER.

A lot of good it does checking the size comparisons and weight distribution of a different make. And it was left at size comparison because mentioning propeller versus jet was too easy.

>>740788192
Ever been in the vicinity of a plane crash before?
It wasn't staged you moron. Don't let those people corrupt your mind.

>>740796210
>>740796240
>>740797094

>about one third the size...

Yeah they're almost the same weight unloaded, which means the B-52 actually has more mass per unit volume. Add onto that the size different is pretty small in the two planes, and the Empire State Building is actually thinner than the WTC was.

>>740797094
Those are the specifications of the B-52 Stratofortress. The Empire State Building was hit by a B-52 Mitchell, which is again, about a third of the size of a 757 and the Stratofortress.

>>740788192
It took you 30+ videos to come to this point... Retard.

>>740788192
bombs were planted inside the building IMO.
9/11 was the excuse to justify endless war in the middle east, and the surveillance tyranny state here at home

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bzGGWZpa7s

>>740796345
There were no final findings. They decided they didn't need to continue the investigation.

>>740796210
The exercise was to find other altercations between planes and buildings, NOT to find identical situations. The original question was:
>Was the Windsor building hit by a fucking plane?

>>740796240
As your Fearless Leader likes to say about his hands, "How does size matter?"

>>740797518
>>740797650

Oh shit, my bad guys. I had pulled the info straight from that one comment.

>>740797698
Bruh you can't cite Alex Jones though.

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>>740797424
Yes and then fires burned the insides of the building until it couldn't stands no mores

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUS9vRCc2Xc

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>ITT: Israeli JIDF start practicing their shilling skills for September's slew of 9/11 conspiracy threads

>>740797518

Length: 48 m
Wingspan: 48 m
Weight: ~120,000 kg

Yeah, that is a lot heavier. Also the corrected B-52 size and weight is much smaller as well. Around half. My bad guys.

>>740798043
"In an interview 3 months after the events, Bush claims he saw the first plane hit the first tower in the hallway before he entered the classroom"

1. I doubt there was a TV tuned into the news outside of a children's elementary school classroom, just randomly set up in the hallway.

2. The video of the plane hitting the first tower did not surface until the day after the attacks.

Hmmmm.....

>>740797698
If bombs were going to be used to bring the buildings down, why bother with the hugger-mugger of the unnecessary planes? "TERRORISTS PLANT BOMBS ALL THROUGH WTC TOWERS, BUILDINGS FALL, THOUSNADS DEAD!" would have been every bit as good an excuse to gin up a war. Adding planes on top of the bombs just added a layer of complexity where something could have gotten fucked up and given the plan away. That would multiply the chance of failure with no added benefit.

incoming theory that op is a faggot

holy shit confirmed!!!

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>>740798296

op cant prove he isnt a faggot

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>>740790350

>The building starts to collapse before the clouds billow out. If you're talking about the sudden expulsion of clouds and fire, that's easily explained by the video you just posted.
>As the structural steel gave way and the floors started to collapse you had an entire floor get pancaked. All the air between the ground and the ceiling gets expelled. Along with smoke and fire that's there due to the plane crash.


Not so fast, Schlomo. Your "physics" sure as hell doesnt work SEVERAL FLOORS below while higher floors remain unmolested.

>>740788192
9/11 has widely been proven false. The officials behind the original report have come out and told how they were stone walled, experts have prove that the planes couldn't have caused the towers to collapse. Alex Jones has for years tried to bring out the truth and guess who supports Jones, one Donald Trump. So there you are anon, going against the president.
>but, but, muh liberal fake news

autism theories are coming in,

is op an autistic faggot?

he cant prove otherwise so it must be true

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>>740796539
>Not even Bush.
There is a conspiracy video that argues Bush Daddy was the point-man for the JFK assassination.
When Dubya was told about WTC, he was reading a book to some kindergarteners. He was holding the book upside-down. His aide whispered the news into Dubya's ear. Dubya kept reading.
That same cartoon quality shows up throughout the 9/11 saga. The airplanes getting absorbed by the buildings the way Wile E. Coyote gets thrown through walls. The Mossad agents recording the first strike before it happened, interposing a cigarette lighter in the frame, then whooping and hollering on contact. And the bank error in Larry's favor – the reason you're not supposed to collect more than your loss is worth is so that you won't be tempted to torch your place for the insurance.

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>>740798045
>picture with text added to it
>hard facts

>>740798574
op assassinated some black dick, with his asshole

>>740798045
she kinda hot, any nudes?

>>740798574
watch the video, the first 30 seconds are him spewing bull shit about "seeing the first plane hit while in the hallway before entering the classroom" When that is physically impossible.

>>740790780
Kek you are retarded

yawn. for the conspiracy cucks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzF1KySHmUA

>>740796779
A lot of the official videos show a perfectly blue background. No skyline, no clouds. Other videos of the event show both.

>>740797766
If the
>exercise
was to find other altercations between planes and buildings, and not to find identical situations, there was no need to add
>Unless that's a hologram meant to fool us
as if to suggest that all altercations between planes and buildings are either meant to result in total collapse, or the total lack thereof. In fact, the
>exercise
was all a response to the question of whether the Windsor building was hit by a plane, that question making reference to the infographic comparing what happened to the Windsor building, to the World Trade Center towers. Where one was hit by a plane, and one was not. Where both experienced prolonged heat damage, but only one of them was hit by a plane. So, I'm left to believe you're not going to actually shitpost here and try to argue that finding other anecdotal instances of plane on building action is worth anything without the particulars of each said case, where you've gone out of your way to find
>similar
instances where buildings were actually hit by planes.

It matters if they were identical situations. A lot changes if you change the plane variable, for example. It makes the case of arguing whether a building is to fall or not after being hit by an aircraft rest on much more solid footing, because otherwise, I can compare 9/11 to my throwing a paper plane at a jenga tower as much as I can also compare it to throwing a paper plane at an actual tower.

>>740798043
>trusting a pubescent teen to analyze the collapses
i saw the collapse of the buildings the very same day as the attack.

op? how can you say you arent a faggot when we dont have any videos of you not being a faggot??

>>740798803
I'm playing devils advocate. Im not saying I believe it, but the coincidences are astounding.

The military exercises that were going on that day causing mass confusion militarily, several high end officials happened to not be at work that day, Owner of tower 7 takes out a 7 billion dollar insurance policy on the building days before.. I dunno. It's weird.

>>740788588

If ever I should own a mountain. I will name it Mt. Thoughts.

chkchk'd

>>740798934
no you couldnt have, there's no way you could have seen thorough such a sea of dicks

it must have happened because you cant prove it didnt

>>740798934
>>740799073

Read my comment, just looking at some things that are coincidental and I'm not a pubescent teen you cunt, Although I was only 12 when the attacks happened.

>>740795731
>if you have the preconcieved opinion thatved the government lies to its people
So do you live under a belief system where the government doesn't lie to the point that they would lose all credibility if they were a person who was such a pathological liar?

>>740788192
It was a controlled demolition.
Skyscrapers are designed to collapse that way.

Duh. You think engineers are going to design a giant Dominos game?

You really need assistance with your reasoning ability, education, thinking process etc.

Good luck in life, looking you're a perma- tool, and probably a marijuana.

>>740799298
There have been high rise steel buildings that have burned for 19 hours that didn't collapse. Both of these collapsed in 1 and 2 hours.

>>740788962

How would you expect them to collapse? Fall over like a paper towel tube?

>>740794558

you forgot about the ~$5t that went up in smoke

>>740799161
>I'm not a pubescent teen
i'm talking about the kid in the video, idiot. you can hear his pubscent voice change. the narrator of the video is not older than 17 at most. and you use him as a source for your "facts".

>>740799612
Depending on which main structural beams melted first, seems like it would topple more than collapse in a perfectly vertical fashion.

>>740788448
Huh, so jet fuel CAN melt steel beams

>>740799717
Oh, yea, he's a cunt, I'm more focused on the footage and actual inverviews

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>>740790664
>Yeah let's just forget about other destabilizing factors. Such as a jet smashing into the towers, the explosion that would follow such an event and only focus on the fire because it fits our retarded theory.
>Fucking kek

No way man, it's just a coincidence that the collapse started at the precise point the plane impacted. The explosives were placed there and somehow not damaged or dislodged in order to make it LOOK like the plane impact had something to do with it.

>>740799804
>op might be a pedo

but we cant find proof that hes not, so he is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN3qUXJp7l0


underrated mini series. A must watch.

>>740799726

Do you understand what mass and gravity are? And the effect many stories of building can have on a weakened structure?

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>>740791469

that pic. this topic. Wonder what all those "commemorative" coins we sold here are worth today.

cheers mate.

>>740799910
I will concede to that

>>740791545

Because they PLANNED it, duh. Not because they were firefighters with some kind of knowledge of structural damage and effects of fire.

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>>740793979

chill. it is a play on the concept of items such as these. you can't get any memier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6SAm7D5YOU

>>740788192
Yeah planned by Al Queda, you hopless retard

>>740800276
2nd this guy sucks cocks.

"Hey guys I spent the whole day listening to idiots and now I believe them!"

Kill yourself OP

>>740799952
Just watch 15 seconds of this video, I have the URL start where relevant. None of these building collapsed. The last one was completely engulfed for 19 hours and didn't. Just weird.

https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw?t=837

>>740788192

Yeah, I can't imagine why either of those buildings in the picture collapsed. The gaping holes and the huge explosions just couldn't account for it. It's a total fucking mystery unless you postulate that hundreds of floors were rigged with explosives no one noticed, by some undefined group of conspirators.

>>740790303
Uh I'm OP and eye'm a dumb nigger with no reasoning, that's y

>>740799073
That's about all any of us can do, really. We're so far removed from the events, we receive our information mediated by so many different special interests, and we're discussing it on a thread that will vanish at any moment, reading ill-mannered arrogance from one or more anons who insist you agree with them under penalty of childish insults.
It's the stridency of those anons that argues most eloquently for the rejection of the official story. Those guys can't be acting like that for fun.

>>740800599
>None of these building collapsed.

Were any of them struck by commercial aircraft? Do you think maybe it's possible that the unique conditions inflicted by a commercial aircraft impact might make the situations relevantly different?

>>740800919
Very true, but that one was totally completely engulfed for 19 hours, and the trade center buildings, as you can easily research, were designed to withstand such impacts. Specifically.

>>740800919
When it boils down to it, no one can be 100% positive but a lot of sketch shit went down around the collapsing of the tower, especially the investigation of the aftermath that makes skepticism warranted. Accurate or not, some shady shit went down before and after everything happened, I think we can agree to that.

best 9/11 conspiracy video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAAztWC5sT8

>>740800919
From a structural standpoint, the effect on a large building from being hit by an airplane is negligible. Certainly the impact does not release enough energy to cause explosions many floors below the impact.