9/11 stuff that they don't want you to see. Sometimes I

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The next shot is looking at the same thing but zoomed in to show the Jumper drapped over the side of the roof.

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Last image of the same thing. You can see red bits on the ground that are shredded people ejected from the impact zones. There are more pictures later on that show this better.

This picture is taken from a side profile of the Marriot hotel between WTC 1 & WTC 2

Dozens of Jumpers landed on the roof of the Marriot including this one. There is a rumor that when the FDNY cleared the building they checked the roof and one of the Jumpers was barely alive, but I have my doubts.

What is true was that the roof was a nightmare of gore and shredded Jumpers.

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Here is a picture that shows the shredded human body parts better. They were strewn over several blocks from the impact of the planes, the people on them and from the floors they hit.

There are some significantly big pieces that landed in some pictures but mostly they're not recognizable as anything.

There is a rare picture of a leg, or a hand and I'll probably get to those but you see a lot of shoes, some of them are from people ditching their foot wear after running nearly a hundred stories to safety since heels tear up your feet.

But some are from the impact zones, some from Jumpers.

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Here is a pretty big piece of someone on the sidewalk and some more pieces around it.

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In this parking lot is a shredded up body.

You can see more pieces. You'll see them a lot in these pictures. They're all people.

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Here you can see a piece of the WTC facade with a landing gear stuck in it.

It's also an alternate shot of the parking lot I just posted where you can see the body parts in the middle of it.

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Another angle of facade. The hint of the remains in the parking lot to the left.

Anyone there?

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I'll keep posting a little while longer but if no one is reading I'll probably head off.

>>740740733
Yep..

>>740740768
Its all kinda scary and also educational, are there any vids?

quite a collection you've got, OP. I remember seeing some of these before, some were even posted in Danish newspapers in the time just after it happened, then they seemed to disappear from the mainline news -prolly too gory and such, like the clips of the jumpers.

but then again, it's documenting history. I was 25 when it happened, feels like aeons ago and just yesterday at the same time.

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So here you can see a piece of someone in the street. You'll notice it's got something white on it.

I've heard this story a couple times. From some people who were there and documentaries.

There was a dude who worked for a hotel or something and he had a armful of sheets and he was running around trying to throw sheets over all the body parts.

You'll see pictures of this man's work as we go on.

>>740740768
we're here, OP.

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>>740740826

I have two videos I can link too later.

One from a hotel a block away looking into the plaza where you can see Jumpers landed along the windows in the plaza and hitting the stage set up between the towers. I'll get to it I think.

Another video of a Jumper hitting a railing and misting into blood. I wasn't sure it was a Jumper the first time I saw it but I found pictures of his body and in a Documentary I watched they specifically censored it in the video so it's definitely a Jumper.

Also here is that hotel guy with the sheets I mentioned.

The pictures are coming from a variety of sources. This one is from a Japanese dude I think, he lived or was rooming in an apartment a block or two away.

The ones I've been posting are from an NIST FOIA or something, I don't recall but they're out there if you look hard enough.

super interesting post more please

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Picture from the Japanese photographer again.

This one is pretty interesting because I was able to connect some dots after I've looked at it a few times.

You see that truck on the right with the push bar? Pay close attention to it and the next picture I'm going to post.

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And here it is.

It's obviously someones head. If you look at the truck is definitely the same one.

This picture was used in evidence in the Moussaoui trial.

They must have had a massive rat problem is that are after the attack. All those pices of meat spread around!

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Another picture of those sheets from before.

>>740740768
please keep posting mate

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Leg.

Thanks, keep going

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This one was posted on a newspaper or magazine or something on 9/12 but obviously that didn't go over so well.

>>740741063
>Moussaoui trial
just googled that.. interesting, to say the least.

>>740741170
I remember that, yes.

>checked
>educational
>op leaves
>:(

op can you post videos?

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So time to talk about the Jumpers.

About 200 people or more jumped from the towers from the moment the plane hit up until they fell. Most were from the North Tower because it was the one hit first and last to fall and a lot of people inside saw what happened to the South Tower but the South Tower had Jumpers too.

So, basically. From what the guys down there tell me that day and what I've read when you fall from a hundred stories it takes 11 seconds(?) I gotta check to fall. When you hit the ground your body basically collapses and just shreds it's self up.

All the clothes you have on you just tear and shred. Your body kinda just falls apart. The blood gels when it mixes with the oils and fats in your body.

There isn't always a conventional blood "pool" when the Jumpers hit they spread their blood in a thin mist over several feet.

There is a picture I'll post where you can see where a dozen Jumper's land infront of one of the lobby windows and as each Jumper lands it coats the ground and windows in another layer of blood like paint.

This picture is an example of that gel/oil effect.

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This one looks a little brighter than I remember. I think someone hit it with a filter to make the blood stand out more. I'll post the video in a little bit that this still is taken from so you can see it raw for yourself.

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I missed this one earlier. More sheets and body parts. I'll keep going with the above Jumper stuff now.

>>740741176
>Moussaoui trial
y-o-utube.com/watch?v=qWNg-q00PdI

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Alright, so this stage was set up in the plaza between the towers.

The roof was a plastic tarp kinda of material. So as Jumpers fell they hit it and put holes in it. So all those holes you see are from people hitting it.

The video I'll post has a shot of a Jumper hitting this stage and you can see a body party (potentially a head) rolling down the side of the roof.

But this will be reference once or twice is this stage.

>>740741435
thnx brah, btw you don't have to break up links..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWNg-q00PdI

Interesting stuff, haven't seen most of this.

Super interesting stuff op. Keep posting. Also give us the vids.

Siqq op

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZi4o2OBLEI

Alright here is the video. The important time marks below:

6:35 - Camera man pans down and follows a Jumper heading for the plaza. When he cuts back you can see the remains of the Jumpers and the blood collected up to that point. * Also note how many holes there are in that stage at this point and how many more it will gain in the pictures and video that follow.

14:30 - Camera man follows a Jumper and you see him hit the stage. You'll see a body part roll off the roof. Jumper's body proceeds into the space landing between the end of the stage.

I've also posted a gif here of the stage through different stages of the day.

anyone got any rare vids?
Also how did so many people die if the towers collapsed almost an hour after plane was hit? surely thats enough time to get most of the people out of the building?
Also amazing photos, not much of this was shown in australia

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Another gif for reference with the plaza and windows.

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>>740741821

343 fire fighters alone died in the attacks.

When the planes hit they severed the elevators and stairwells so anyone that was above the impact floors when the planes hit was trapped (except for a rare exception in the South Tower where one stairwell remained but eventually collapsed as well but allowed some people to escape)

All the people in the floors above the impact zones, all the people who did not evacuate at or or did not evacuate in a timely enough manner, the people in the streets, people in the other WTC complexes, the victims on the plane and so on.

It's easy to see how so many people died.

Oh and here is a gif of the Jumper hitting the stage. I forget what I have in these folders so I find things as I post sometimes.

>>740741821
Most people that died were above the impact points of the "planes". The staircases were on fire and there was no way out. Well beside the windows that is..

>>740741972
thanks for clarifying

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These shoes are from the impact floors.

Note the NYPD cop who found someones purse. It's plausible it came from the impact floors. They recovered some pretty spooky shit from the planes.

Also the plane parts.

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I have a bunch of pictures of blood and little things like that I can post too.

in the video she says god bless those people except god is the problem here.. the terrorists god

>>740742088
What kind of spooky stuff? Can you elaborate?

>>740742018
>>740742018

Didn't any choppers try to get people off the roof?

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>>740742204

Like, A&A branded sandals, life jackets, purses, toys, keys, wallets, shoes (of course)

Also they found one of the hijackers passport(?) I think it was.

>>740742233

Impossible.
1. Too much smoke.
2. WTC 1 had a spire that would make that difficult
3. Thermal waves caused by the fire would've made it impossible to get a helicopter in close even if the smoke wasn't blinding.

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This is from a documentary. The fire fighter is poking it with a shovel and when the camera man asks him what it is he says "A person."

Sorry I'm getting slow. I'm trying to find a specific video on Youtube of the Jumper misting against the railing.

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>>740741340
I wonder how painful it would be. The impact I mean. Terrifying.

Really interesting to see OP. Which tower did the wheel stuck in the facade come out of?

>>740742534
If you go head first, absolutely no pain.

is there any footage of the cleanup and recovery of bodies? or is that shit highly classified?

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>>740742578
And a flip too. Jk

Interedasting stuff though.

>>740742534
From that height you are guaranteed to not feel anything at all at impact. You perceive your surroundings with a very slight lag. At speeds resulting from a fall from such heights the lag would be big enough for you to perceive to still be a little above the ground when you splatter.

>>740742631
Imagine not taking the opportunity to do the sickest shooting star press ever.

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Best thread I've seen in years. OP delivered and is not a fucking faggot

>>740742534
From that height, you'd die before you hit the ground.

>>740742578
That's not how pain works you fucking moron.

I came to /b/ today for shitposting. Now I'm interested in this genuinely hard hitting truthful thread. Thank you OP

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>>740742667
Yeah plus the terror and shock of things, would be scary but better than the alternative. RIP those peeps.

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>>740740200

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>>740742615

There are some but it's hard to find.

You gotta assume that anyone who had access to the scene was usually a journalist or a first responder.

For the latter they're obviously not going to post graphic gore from 9/11 for the public to see. A lot of these are FOIA and they're hard enough to find.

I heard a story from a dude who was working for a news agency in the city. He was shooting the shit with his boss about the 9/11 anniversary coming up and he asked him if he was down there that day, when the dude said no his boss pulls out a photo album from a locked drawer in his desk and shows him all these graphic pictures of Jumpers bodies and stuff like that, a lady walking around on the street all burned up with her skin hanging off.

Again, obviously CNN isn't going to put images of Jumper's bodies on TV and they're not going to release them. They're out there but we may never see them.

>>740742754

> you will die before you hit the ground

Absolutely 100% false.

Every single Jumper (assuming they didn't pass out from smoke inhalation prior to falling or being pushed out passed out while others crushed for the fresh air at the windows) they were 100% alive and awake for the entire fall.

Some Jumpers made eye contact with people in the towers as they fell.

Anyone having issues with 4chan at the moment? I keep getting errors with loading

>>740742824
Broken for me too

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>>740742745
for realsies

>>740742754
>From that height, you'd die before you hit the ground
eh, why? Air pressure won't kill you, otherwise parachuters would never make to pull the rip-cord, they free fall from greater heights and longer than 11 seconds, often reaching terminal velocity.

THIS IS WHAT /B/ IS ABOUT /B/RO, Fuck we need more shit like this here

we know the jews did it on purpose

the owner of the wtc was jewish

>>740743004
piss off, /pol/... seriously, take a vacation.

>>740741063
>>740741015
How do you know it's the same?
Most police vehicles come with those bars, I mean unless it's a undercover vehicle

Okay /b/ros real talk for a second. Is there any cold hard evidence that this was completely the terrorists fault? Was there foul play involved by us officials?

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>>740742875
yeah this, but sounds like youre basically vaporized almost. Idk. I imagine because of likely having shock the whole thing is such a surreal and terryfying experience that you dont know wtf is going on.

Either way it would be a damn long 11 secs.

>>740743054
This.

First image it's clearly on a road and then the next it's in a carpark

>>740740200
Super interesting OP, thanks for making this thread!

>>740743041
/pol/ is always right

>>740743041
>im a jew stop talking about me!

you're such a fucking baby

Kill yourself already

>>740743099
true

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>>740743041
>740743041
>>740743041

He's correct. And the Jew collected TWICE, claiming that there were two attacks AND HE GOT THE MONEY. This after owning the WTC for one month. WHAT A COINCIDENCE!

>>740743123
I was thinking the same thing, not nearly enough evidence to say it's the same truck

>>740743175
lol butthurt

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Fuck it I can't find the video. This happens every time. It's out there I just can't find it.

It's a video that has a scene with a cop saying "Where are you supposed to be, get out of there" or something to guys in the street.

Than it cuts to a shot of a Jumper falling FAST and hits a railing with a loud "PING" and you can see blood misting in the sunlight.

I have the video, I just don't know where to upload it. If you guys know where I can literally just UPLOAD a video without making an account or anything let me know.

Anyway, here cap from THAT video. You can see the blood misting in this picture. I'll provide pictures of this Jumper's body and the ones near it.

>>740741537

>extreme stage diving

>>740742875
He meant the perception of dying. Nerve signals travel around 250 mph and considering the nearing hundreds of thousands of pounds of force when you impact after reaching terminal velocity your body wouldn't be alive long enough to process the pain of death.

>>740743223
I'm not the one complaining about something someone said.

>>740742667
>>740742667

Plus all the nerves in your body would be destroyed, so you probably literally wouldn't be able to feel anything even if you were technically alive for a couple seconds after the impact.

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>>740743054
>>740743123

It's the same vehicle.

1. The picture they used for the trial is from the same photographer that took the picture of the guy in the yellow shirt next to the vehicle.

The picture of the yellow shirt guy is from his private photobucket. Naturally, he didn't upload the picture he has of the destroyed head on the ground to his personal photobucket. The sheet pictures were bad enough.

2. The lines in on the street are long enough to give that impression of them being parking lot lines. Just look at some other pictures of that street.

>>740743324
agree. the body is destroyed too quickly, plus being in shock.

>>740743219
SHUT UP GOYIM!

ANTISEMITE!

Arrest this nazi!

>>740743314
yes, you are. You're complaining about what I said.

boo-hoo-fucking-hoo, snowflake.

>>740742747
these pictures as old as fuck and been posted before fuckhead

>>740743294
makes sense, yes.

>>740742747
>Best thread I've seen in years. OP delivered and is not a fucking faggot

This.

ladies stop fighting

>>740743469
calm down, Eugene.

>>740743454
>s-see goyim. y-y-you're the one complainin. i'll have you arrested for antisemitism

kek

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Alright, so the picture I posted earlier with the misting blood. You can see the body here.

There are at least three Jumper bodies in this picture. They're hard to tell at a glance because of how fucked up they are when they land. They don't look like people.

There is one under the truck, on the other side. There is one on the side of ten truck closest to the camera. And if you look to the right there is a red sign bent with another Jumper body there. I have a picture of this body as well.

Also note those CCTV cameras. I've heard from a few people that the video survived. See what direction it's pointing? It would've recorded all those Jumpers.

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>>740743068

Read "Solving 9/11" by Christopher Bollyn, it's an exhaustive examination of many threads and stories leading up to 9/11/01 and the case it makes is thoroughly damning.

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I forgot to point out the railing in the last picture. You can see where the Jumper hit it and bent it all up.

The Jumper from the last picture next to the sign. This is it. You can tell from the bend in the sign it's the same one.

>>740743397
Ok I can (maybe) see those being street lines but this picture would have to be from almost exactly the opposite angle because the sidewalk would be visible in the second picture, the truck couldn't be more than 5 feet away from the sidewalk

>>740743521
>stuttering in text
cringe

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>>740743623

It's the angle. It's the same truck. I have no other way to prove it to you, so it is what it is.

>>740743641
jew

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>>740743694

There are the pieces from earlier where I said the fireman was poking it with the shovel.

>>740741063

did it died?

>>740743068
the owner of the towers took out a multi million dollar insurance policy on them like 3 or 4 days before it happened

both of his children worked in office suites in the towers, both of them inexplicably called in sick for work that day despite never missing work because they both worked at prestigious law firms

everything I've just stated is verifiable fact and public record

take from it what you will

>>740743623
Again, This.

It might be the same car but there's no way it's in the same position as the first image, if it was you'd see at least part of the white line in the first image and there's nothing, other than the crosswalk and lines on the other road

>>740743573

Is the stuff from the cameras super classified?

Who can even file the FOIA-Requests and where do the published files end up? Maybe one could go to a city archive or library and find even more information?

>>740740200
God bless you strange traveller

>>740743702
wow, that totally convinced me.

.. it was teh jooz all along.

lol

>>740740733
Keep posting

>>740743735
>take from it what you will
an anonymous person claiming something on the internet, unsubstantiated and without proof.

yeah, I'll take it for what it is -a rumour.

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There are also a hundred stories that there are no pictures for.

Like the people trapped in the elevators after the planes crashed who never escaped when they collapsed, maybe not even knowing what was happening until the end.

And a couple elevators free fell into the basements when the planes severed.

Fireballs shot down the elevator shafts. Naudet said he saw a guy on fire when he entered the lobby from it. Someone else I talked to saw a charred body from a security guard who was sitting at a desk next to the elevator bank when the fireball blow the doors open.

The fireballs caused the glass to break in the lobby as well and caused damage to the ceilings and stuff, you can see these in the some of the videos from the lobby's

Firefighters broke some of the windows too though.

>>740743782

No idea where you'd go. I really don't think you'll ever get to see the footage, if it really does exist.

Also if this Truther bullshit gets too intense I'm bugging out.

I spent some time on Truthers forums getting these pictures and stuff and I'm just so sick and tired of this dumb ass conspiracy bullshit.

I know this is troll bait to start posting Truther stuff but honestly. It's a waste of time, just keep it to yourself.

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>>740740200
Question for you, op. Why did the Bogdanoff twins allow this event to happen?

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More shoes.

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Unfortunately at this distance it gets hard to see Jumper bodies but they're there.

>>740743906
>The fireballs caused the glass to break in the lobby as well
these were the blasts, that conspiracy theorists later claimed were bombs.

>>740743906
Just hide their comments OP, keep posting your stuff this is really interesting

>>740743872
you can literally google what I claimed and find proof in 20 seconds

stay in the dark, sheep, we don't need you anyway

>>740743906
>Also if this Truther bullshit gets too intense I'm bugging out
ignore the tards, hide them, please keep posting.

>>740743906

Thanks for posting those man.

Maybe you could really go to some public archive. These days we're taking for granted that everything is online, but it isn't necessarily so.

Truther or not, plenty of parties profited heavily from 9/11

>>740743906
>hurr durr truthers

you're a fucking brainwashed sheep if you honestly think 9/11 happened like they government told everyone it did

>>740743996
>stay in the dark, sheep, we don't need you anyway
that's a deal, bro.

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>>740743219
>Arrest this nazi!
>Deluded Israeli raised on Israeli propaganda thinks Israel rules the world.
>Forgets Israeli mandated first suggestion to "shoot his unarmed child in the back"
>Netanyahu disapproves

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>>740743991
>>740743992

Exactly. It's kind of tiring how often Truthers misinterpret things and write them off as part of their grand conspiracy theories.

That's a good example, the fireballs caused damage to the lobbies which they look at and say "No planes hit the lobbies, why are the windows broken? Why are the ceiling tiles hanging? Check mate." It was the fireballs that came down the elevator shafts.

Another good example is people who were they like to say "It sounded like an explosion" it's a descriptive way to describe what they heard.

For example, a Jumper hitting the pavement or a VIP car ports sounds "like an explosion"

There is this Gym where I live and it's on the second floor, on the first floor is a dance studio. The sound of people dropping weights on the second floor caused a lady in the dance studio to have a panic attack because it caused a sound that sounded like Jumpers landing.

One of the best threads I've come across in like 10 years

OP is a heterosexual whose personal hygiene is above reproach

>>740744128
>it's a descriptive way to describe what they heard
I've heard people say shit like this when describing car accidents too, if you've never seen it or heard it before it's the best explanation of the sound you heard

>>740744128
>refute the retarded shit no one takes seriously
>ignore shit like >>740744070
>ignore the fact that the investigators are on record as saying they were stonewalled trying to do their job
>ignore the fact that literally thousands of structural engineers that saw it happen all collectively said "that's not right, that's not how that building should collapse"

I appreciate the pics, my dude, but you're a fucking brainwashed sheep just like everyone else

>>740740200
Autist much? Just fucking post the pics...no need to write WOT for us. No one cares to read.

>>740744259
Shut up fag. This shit is actually an interesting read.

It's not just the circumstance of these images that make them interesting, but the time as as well, it's frozen.

New York just recovered from the Dot Com bubble, 90s cars, huge cellphones.

Do you by any chance have some NY street photography as well?

>>740744070

this macro is totally retarded

Obviously you are going to take out an insurance policy.

The place was fucking bombed in 1993 so yeah you're gonna cover that too.

Fucking conspiracy nutjobs.

>>740744259
I haven't seen any of the info OP has posted before so stfu fuckstick and let him post

We make jokes about 9/11 alot around here. But this is some shit. Some really real shit that I don't think everyone has seen.

Am I still gonna make the joke, never forget. Everytime I look at my phone and it happens to be 9:11, absolutely. But shit this is some shit

>>740744259
OP is not a fag, but you are.

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>>740744259

Some of it is important for context or to point out things people may not notice.

The reason I keep these and post these is to keep them out there. They're part of history. There was naked horror on the streets that day and now a days, especially people born after the attacks they see a sterilized version of the events of 9/11

They see two buildings collapse, maybe they see a Jumper or two. They don't really grasp the human impact, the victims, the horror that happened down there. The body parts, the Jumpers landing on the street, people burning alive, people just laying on the impact floors crippled, people dying of smoke inhalation, baking alive etc.

Can someone explain how the body parts got so far from the impact zone? Just shit exploding, people in the planes and building getting thrown far?

>>740744259
>I can't read very well

Ftfy.

>>740744381
This.

>>740744393
Ignore uneducated faggots like that, your text is what keeps this interesting

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>>740744394

Planes travelling at hundreds of miles an hour, hitting a building, causing an explosion and ejecting body parts and debris all over several blocks.

I mean, it's a pretty basic concept.

Literally ten years after and beyond they're STILL finding bone fragments and airplane parts all over the city.

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>>740744070

>>740744053
Let's be real. You know what a Mary sue is or a deus ex machina? Well, that's when things are going too good to be real. Well that's this conspiracy you're on about, a literal deus ex machina.

>>740744457
Imagine goin on your roof for a smoke and you find pieces of a now skeletal femur or something.

God damn. Fuck that. That's how a mother fucker gets haunted kek

>>740744253
Its a feint. Tryinb to say, 'look since it wasnt bombed then it was real', even though the planes were empty and were flown remotely, and the investigating team has pictures of a jewish team laying det cord all over the place, and cutting beams. The work happened just days before the attack.

This thread is controlled opposition.

>>740744457
Can they not build a mosque if there were human remains there or something?

>>740744329
Mental health shilling, hello jidf.

>>740744560
It's "disrespectful" because the hijackers were Muslims.

>>740744555
>lemme make all these counter claims but post no evidence of my claims

You're doin great

>>740744580
>hurr durr someone retorted me
>better call them jidf
>that'll make me not look like a nutcase

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>>740744554

That's kinda what happened. On the roof of the Deutsche Bank Building in 2005 they went up there to do some work and the roof of some buildings in NYC have like, gravel and in the gravel they found bone fragments.

They found more in 2010

>>740744128
>The sound of people dropping weights on the second floor caused a lady in the dance studio to have a panic attack because it caused a sound that sounded like Jumpers landing.
damn.. that's brutal. Poor lady, must have some serious PTSD going.

>>740742754
>that's not how pain works

That's actually exactly how pain works, signals from brain.

an actually interesting thread among the cesspool that is b
bump

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>>740742822
exactly, why the fuck would someone die during the fall? People parachute out of planes all the time, the free fall doesn't kill them. Such aspergers

>>740744181
>>740744195
>>740744214
>>740744223
these are heart wrenching.

>>740744598
Holy fucking shit that's retarded

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I always think it's kinda weird how photographers who took pictures of the Jumpers and stuff frame them and sell the prints on their websites like it's high art or something.

But it is what it is I guess.

Thanks OP, disturbing, but somehow interesting to read

>>740744638
New York is a rough town. Old as fuck, and not only built atop of but covered with corpses.

When you remember these things it makes visiting the state seem like you're going to some Hellish landscape kek

>>740744604
Says the retard who never made an argu in the first place. Now that ive proven you are a hypocrite wigh no evidence, and that you have a vested interest in COINTEL you are the thread's dedicated shill. This is what everyone knows and believes, and there is nothing you can do yo stop it. The more you use shame and approval as social capital the more you out yourself as a shill.

>>740744317
New York in the 90's, man... check youtube for vids, quite interesting.

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>>740744748

I went down there a couple weeks ago and saw the new WTC and the memorials. They're nice memorials, the tower is nice too.

I tried to think of the body parts and Jumpers, but it's really hard to imagine even when you're there.

>>740742822
OP oh buddy you gotta see if you can find more of this, I haven't been this interested in years

>>740744752
>only one person can reply to me at a time

Whoa there sonny. Slow down. How bout you think before ya start slamming those keys with your sausage fingers ubermench

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You guys may have seen this video. It's kinda famous.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kubt4Zyd24k

You can see this guy trying to climb down the facade at 6:00 and eventually loses his grip and falls.

>>740744816
>I tried to think of the body parts and Jumpers, but it's really hard to imagine even when you're there.

You have a serious problem.

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>>740744881

Same guy.

>>740742174
edgelord detected.

>>740744748
But isn't this like any other city? I mean Paris is literally built atop a grave yard

>>740744887
How is that a problem at all? To try to visualize the past in order to gain insight is not a problem m8

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>>740744887

Probably. I've got train wreck syndrome.

I don't really think about 9/11 but once in awhile I do and since I've seen the things it's just how it is for me.

When you're there you think briefly on it. It wasn't like I stood there on the sidewalk and had a fantasy about it.

You stand there and just sorta think to yourself "People died on this street X years ago." but it doesn't seem real.

That's all.

>>740743916
your silence speaks volumes

>>740744674
You're wrong. Brain activity based on signals from THE BODY.

>>740742534
If the fall takes 10+ seconds you're gonna black out before you hit.

>>740744922
Paris scares the shit out of me. I had nightmares when I was there about falling through a manhole into the catacombs. Stupid dream yeah but fuck if it didn't make me never wanna come back kek

>>740744816
Somehow that's almost even worse than seeing the Jumpers.

The aspect of humanity, perhaps. Those are people, whereas once the fall starts they might as well already be gone.

I live in upstate NY, and I was only 3-4 when this happened. I'm 19 now, whatever that works out to. Thanks for keeping the history alive, OP, because you or whoever else that said it was right: the naked horror is not shown in most documentaries or what you see or hear.

>>740744881
>Billy Joel in the background

>>740744748
>New York is a rough town. Old as fuck..
not trying to dog you there, but.. the town I live in is about 1000 years old, and it's nowhere near the oldest town in my country.

just Yuropeen thangs, my dude.

>>740744930

I don't need to be able to visualize it. The only insight you guys need on it is lots of people died on that day.

I Remember your old threads and yes, you have a problem.

>>740744630
>>740744839
Boom! Called it! Mockingbird tactics. Too bad the independent majority doesn't fall for that any more. In order to move them you need to use better social capital, for example agency or a rigid argument. But if you could have noticed that then you would have gotten hillary elected. Must really chap your ass, to do all this shilling and still fail. That no one believes what you get paid to type.

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>>740744983

This one is the "Falling Man" and he's kinda famous. He got posted around in newspapers and magazines, something about the way he was falling has an impact I guess.

>>740744947
Without the brain you don't feel pain, landing headfirst=no brain no pain.

>>740742615
The people doing that job wouldn't be standing around recording it. The people whose job is twas to record it wouldn't be putting it on the internet. Highly unprofessional to be doing those things.

>>740740768
A1 post. Stunned silence mate. It's rare.

>>740744951
Or have a heart attack

>>740744951
What makes you think you would black out in a free fall? Is this something retarded they teach in some country?

>>740745015
>falling has an impact

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>>740745015

Jumping man again.

There is a couple pictures of the Falling Man, you only ever see the one that makes it look like he dived that way on purpose. Truth was he was falling and twisting around the entire way down.

It's impossible to tell because of how angles and distances work in photography but it kinda looks like he may have landed on the Marriot roof.

>>740742667
What kind of bullshit are you spewing? Does this happen when you in a car on the highway or in a plane? No. Fucking internet bullshit dispenser, you are. You hit the ground and are dead. Too fast to feel shit, but, you're dead anyway.

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>>740745010
What the fuck are you talking about? Here look.

Pic related is when I replied to you. The other guy who you were talking to has likely gone to have himself a JO and a cry. So seriously. Settle down.

>>740745044
Yeah you only black out if you're at high altitude

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Another famous one. The woman in the hole who stood there and waved for help.

There was actually another guy in the same hole further down.

Truthers use it as a smoking gun or something to prove the fire wasn't hot enough to melt steel beams or whatever the meme is these days.

Truth was she jumped too, probably because the heat became too much to bare.

>>740744942
know what you mean, I visited the site in '07. Same thoughts, same feelings.

>>740744259
Fuck off fag, this shit interesting

>>740744951
>If the fall takes 10+ seconds you're gonna black out before you hit
tell that to any parachuter.

...

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You can see the other guy in this picture. His shirt is gone, maybe he took it off or it was blown off or something. Dunno.


>>740745179

Literally no way for them to survive that fall.

>>740745179
A flight attended once survived a fall from something like 20.000' but she landed in a big pile of loose snow on a slope. I'd say no. Impossible or very improbable!

>>740744951
Then how come sky divers don't black out every time they jump out of a plane? They go more than 10 seconds before pulling the cord. You don't know what you are talking about. You are just going fast, like on a roller coaster. That's all.

>>740745269
maybe he means because of the panic? idk, free falling without a parachute isn't the same as knowing you have one + a backup.

Was any sort of padding used to help save jumpers? Or would that not have done anything?

>>740745207
Crazy how people will cast themselves from a building to avoid a more painful death.

Its like there's an instinct not just to live, but to avoid dying painfully.

I personally know for certain I'd jump before I burned.

>>740744959
Paris is fantastic, man.. founded by Celtic Gauls known as the Parisii, before Christ was born.

that's a bringer of perspective.

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in this one you can actually see a piping hot log of shit that andy sixx shat off of the roof of the WTC in 1999

>>740745321
No, he's just plain wrong. Don't make excuses for him.

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I think this one is the woman in the hole, I should've marked it.

Someone said they saw a woman holding her skirt down on the way down. Again, maybe just a rumor

>>740745340

People jump from structure fires all the time. It's a very common thing and I'd do it myself to avoid burning to death. I've been around some hot ass fires before too and it's fucking brutal, I can't imagine being STUCK there and having to just bake. I'd jump, human instinct tells you to jump.

Firefighters deal with Jumpers from these types of high rise fires all the time.

>>740745372
What is this meme? Ive never understood it. Is it something some crazy fucking fan of his said? Is it a genuine desire of fans of this man's 'music'? Someone help.

>>740745340
I'm actually suprised more didn't jump. Considering around 2000 lives were lost, only 200 chose to jump.

>>740745179
I don't think it would've helped, not at that height and velocity..

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Buildings designed to survive that exact scenario topple within hours of getting hit...sound legit.

They were designed to survive a hit from a 707, pic related is size diff between 707 and 767.

>>740743735
Lol bullshit. They would have already been insured. Anyone with sense has insurance. Kidfag.

>>740745451
dude why you baleet the question?

Fantastic thread OP, very interesting, the jumpers always make me quite sad, such a horrendous way to go, I agree with you that the naked horror and viciousness of that day has long been diluted, shame I guess

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tfw u hear there's logs on the first floor

>>740742139
Yes please!!!

>>740745444
Edit: Closer it was to 3,000

>>740745444
A lot of them died trapped in stairwells or from smoke inhalation.

>>740745534
And thousand that suffer and suffered from cancer due to all the dust!

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>>740745444

200 is an estimate. There is no way to accurately count considering both towers collapsed and made a mess of things. I personally think it was way more.

All the most interesting things are out of the way now guys. I'll keep posting interesting things but all the really rare stuff I had is out there now.

>>740745207
I remember this one, still give me the old sniffs and foggy eyes.

>>740745444

Some probably jumped, most fell once smoke inhalation got to them or heat stroke. All bunched up around the windows it's easy to see.

Most that didn't jump again would have being over come with smoke inhalation, within the building.

>>740740200
goddammit. this event still shits me up. I was 18 when it happened and it was like "here's your brave new world". Nothing made sense and everything lost the illusion of reliability, proportion, or control.

I don't care much about the conspiracies or whos to blame but that a whole bunch of people who were just going in to do their regular, ordinary 9-5 jobs, families going on trips, people who never fired a weapon in anger or war were considered worth killing to convey a message.

just something so rackingly dark and cowardice about butchering noncombatants.

>>740745460
That filthy Jew called it 2 separate attacks and made 2X the claim, heartwarming isn't it?

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if you look closely you can actually see a massive log that fell out of andy sixx's ass

>>740745612
Right there with ya man. Terrorists have no concept of honor or what's right or wrong. They're monsters, genuine fucking monsters.

Respectfully im sorry to all those who were affected by this. Such a terrible thing to happen. Nothing was shown about this in Australia. Just a few generic clips of towers falling down, then never mentioned again.
Its good to get a better understanding of the impact this caused.

>>740743294
No, stop posting bullshit. Fucking idiots. They were alive and conscious until impact. Retardfag.

>>740745321
How fucking dumb are you?

>>740745514
haha nice log bro

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>>740745578

The calls from the Towers are pretty tough to listen too as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGLfSn4LBuY

>>740745616
So if you had two houses that were damaged you wouldn't file an insurance claim for each? 1800comeonnow or whatever man

>>740745693
Okay 'doctor'. Whatever you say.

>>740745616
You talk after two of your own fucking skyscrapers get taken down.

>>740745699
bro people pass out when they see blood and other dumb shit, you don't think it's possible people can pass out from jumping off a building like that and knowing they're going to die?

>>740745693
>They were alive and conscious until impact.

Why does it matter to you so much? Whats your problem

>>740745693
>retardfag

Compelling argument you make there, any other insights to share?

>>740745434
it's just a forced meme that eventually caught on, it makes no sense and was never supposed to.

this is 4chan, after all.

>>740745612
Relgion is fucking wonderful isn't it?

>>740745689
The fuck are you on about, I remember it being on tv for at least a couple of days, not on this scale but it was definitely televised

>>740740631
Those Lexus' have really aged well.

>>740741340
>when you fall from a hundred stories it takes 11 seconds(?) I gotta check to fall

the formula is t = sqrt(2*h/G); with t being time in seconds, h being height in meters and G being the gravitational constant (around 9.8 on earth). So to fall 500m, it takes you 10.10 approximately. You have to add a bit to that, because the formula doesn't account for air pressure, so i'd say 11 seconds is a decent estimate for a jump out of the top stories.

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>>740745747

Because cuddling people and telling them they're right because it feels good isn't right. The truth is they were awake and they felt every second until the end.

The world is a scary, unfair place.

>>740745733
The one where the tower collapses mid call is fucked up.

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The scariest part about 9/11 is that it happened 16 years ago and those 16 year olds born after may be in this very thread.

I get goose bumps just thinking about it.

>>740745841
Chuckled. 7/10

>>740745733
I heard those before... years ago, not sure I can do it again.

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This isn't WTC this is from the Pentagon.

I don't save much from the Pentagon and from the field in PA.

I live in NY so naturally the NYC stuff has my fixation more so than the other ones.

>>740745745
Ok what? That made absolutely no sense at all, what are you trying to say?

>>740745612
And after 9/11 everything just went to shot and we lost all of our goddamn sense.

>>740740768
please continue I'm lurking on 8/9 thread

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And this is a Pentagon one too that everyone says looks like an ass or a penis.

>>740745316
She survived from 30,000 feet, strapped backwards in a seat in a piece of the fuselage. Way different than slapping concrete at terminal velocity with nothing to break your fall.

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if you look closely you can actually see where the massive creamy log left a pretty gnarly skidmark on the tower

>>740745889
He's either implying America can't defend itself or it was an inside job. Take no heed of him friendo. He's got the downies.

>>740745612
Man I was a little kid when this happened (like 3rd grade)and it fucked me up. I was a fairly sheltered kid, grew up in a small town in south Texas and this honestly destroyed my perception of reality. I never understood and probably never will understand why and how someone could do this

>>740745734
2 towers 1 insurance policy 1 attack=2X the claims? Jew greed.

Btw if you own 2 houses you have 2 separate insurance policies.

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The PATH Station partially collapsed.

The wet spot was a body someone told me. I don't have anywhere to verify that, a lot of stuff I hear from people is here say.

So take it with what you will. It could just be water from a pipe or something.

>>740745876
ah, shit... jesus christ holy fucking shit.

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Sweet thread.

>>740745822

You haven't changed.

I'd bet anon alot of the jumpers simply tumbled out of the windows after they blacked out from smoke inhalation or heat stroke.

I bet some did genuinely jump. But there is no need to glorify it like you are and have done in the past, I remember you always used to get really mad every time someone brought this up.

Bottom line is anon no of it matters. They died horribly, arguing over their state of consciousness is irrelevant.

But you always want them to be awake... You have a serious problem anon

Everyone likes to talk about /b/ on the whole being this monstrous hate machine of tag team rape action and high impact sexual violence.

But this thread shows the human side. And I find that very interesting. 10/10 Thread. Would lurk again.