>year is 2017 >people still use windows 7 in 2017 same

The both end in 7. Checkmate

>>>/g/

>>740499736
Because it was a better operating system you stupid fuckin faggot.
>also, FUCK WINDOWS 10

Why use that when you can use Linux OP?

>>740500011
Theres always one of these fags

>>740499996
whatever faggot win10 is fine get over it permavirgin

It is the era of Linux. Windows is over

>>740499996
Windows 7 looks like shit. Keyword "was". It's shit compared to windows 10 and Linux mate.

>>740500216
Microsoft/FBI shill plz go

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>>740499736

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I use Windows because it's easy to use and convenient.

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>>740499736
i held onto 7 as long as possible but microsoft cripples it to get you to update to 10. i have 10 installed with telemetry disabled and all their spyware uninstalled. i need windows for gaming.

use linux mint for everything else.

>>740500279
>era of Linux
>no one uses linux

I use google chrome on windows 7, and I donut fucken care!

Windows 10 is good if you tweak the settings and remove the bullshit.

I suggest getting the LTSB copy.

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>>740500279
I've been hearing that since you were adopted.

>>740499996
i was postponing updating to 10 for as long as I could. I had a bunch of adware that I read was much easier to delete with 10 so I upgraded. I t was much easier to deal with the adware and the OS was much better than 7 ever was imo.

How can you get windows free and use it free too.

I just dont like to pay for it

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>>740499736
I still use windows xp...

I still use xp..

>>740499736
I dont want Windows 10 super backdoor kortana. Also Windows 7 is running fine for me. I also think its more safe since its already longer in market and still supported. Also Windows 10 was free. And Windows even sold you Vista, if sth is free then you sell yourself

>>740499736
I use Sierra.

all of you fags should be using windows me

>>740501038
You know you can turn the notifications off?

how about you either come up with some reasoning other than ITS CURRENT YEAR HURRHUR or go choke on a cock

>>740499736
>2017
>giving a shit about an OS

I can shitpost with any OS...

>>740501858
>>740501986

windows 7 is slower
windows 7 is way less secure
windows 10 is way cleaner.
directx12.
universal apps.

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>>740499736
Bought an $800 laptop, worked flawlessly.

After Windows update, blue screen of death.

Microsoft needs to get their shit together I see exactly why people prefer Windows 7.

If you think 10 is "better" you're a pleb brain

>>740501376
link?

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>>740501202
>no one uses linux
then why is it on Windows?

>not using gentoo in 2017

>>740501202
>normie

>>740501932
i did. microsoft crippled 7 so i had to update to 10. if i didn't need windows for steam i would either still be on 7 or linux

why is windows still a thing, why is mac still a thing?
why the hell is gnu/linux a thing when there is Arch?

>>740501722
it's okay no one's judging you

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>>740502242
> slower

Doubt it

> secure

If you don't know how to prevent or fix cryptolockers you're a dumbass. I forgot I'm on 4 chan...

I'd rather deal with "threats" myself, considering the only fucking thing that ever almost broke my computer was Windows 10 updates.

It's beyond retarded, go back to your cave

>>740502242
enjoy your ads dumbass

>>740502536
>why the hell is gnu/linux a thing when there is Arch?

i'm.
i.
man.
this has to be bait. i dont believe it.

>>740502268
>Windows update, blue screen of death.
You should at least do a clean install, nigger. Windows has always been shit at updating itself properly.

>>740500216
>>740500311
Nice try you fuckin tech cuck

>>740502681
you can just download adblock.....

>>740502698
<3
-sent from Mint KDE

Seeing all those complaints on the Steam forums about games not working on Win10 kind of makes me thing the whole DX12 meme was the single biggest joke ever played on the gaming community.
Anyone who willingly Dled W10 for DX12 should be forcefully sterilized for the greater good of the human race.

Also, 8.1 is the superior version.

>>740502650
alright mate you're just embarrassing yourself. just stop.

>>740502536
>why the hell is gnu/linux a thing when there is Arch?
Good question. Why are computers still a thing when there are consoles?

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>>740501038
>i have 10 installed with telemetry disabled and all their spyware uninstalled.

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>>740502803

>having to adblock your operating system

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Imagine being tech illiterate enough to install windows 10 on your own computer lmao

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>>740502786
> at least do a clean install

I bought the computer, it came with 10 and the first thing I did was upgrade it. First thing I got was blue screen.

I'm not going to spend 3 hours "upgrading" to a blue screen because Microsoft wants to baby the average user from cryptolockers.

Microsoft really has shit quality control

>>740503136
>complaining about ads for free shit
Those really look like store suggestions rather than proper ads.

>>740503298
>it came with 10 and the first thing I did was upgrade it.
So, upgraded from 10 to 10?

>>740503322
> its a suggestion , not an ad

burgers really believe this

I run 8.1 with a classic 7 shell

my shit smells fine thank you

>>740503702
nobody said anything about cheeseburgers

>>740499736
it's the best version of windows, 10 is the worst. so like, why upgrade, i suppose eventually drivers won't support windows 7 anymore, which is what i'm worried about. i haven't looked into it but i'm there's some kind of professional version for IT people with all the horrible shit stripped out.

my mother works in IT, and i remember when i was a kid she said that 'today computers are the wild west, but that won't last the decade' and i was like 'no way mum, people won't let that happen!' now i'm like, "i wonder when they'll bring back mainframe style architecture where everything is streamed from server farms and you own literally none of your software, just a subscription'

i browse in incognito mode and use ning, i know im safe

I work in IT and regularly use Windows 10, Windows 7, and xbuntu. All three are good enough operating systems. Any faggot who thinks one is better than the other doesn't really know what they are doing on the pc. They are all viable in their own way and all have flaws in their own way. The safety of your system is up to you. All other arguments just sound like," hurrr hurrr muh oeratioun systems is better cause hurrr hurrr." fuck off all of you.

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>>740504374
>not using tor as your main browser

have fun with the fbi kiddo

>>740503493
This is also just an option, if you had ever ran a clean install of windows 10 you would know that.

I wish I didn't upgrade to 10 from 8, i thought it would make it better. Windows just keeps making each OS slower and slower though. Cortana is a joke and windows needs serious optimization and focus.

>>740501721
You can make a boot usb of it directly from Microsoft's site and install it. You just won't have a key to activate, but really the only things that does is prevent customisation and will occasionally have a watermark on the screen in the bottom right. What I did. I did eventually get annoyed enough with that though to pay 5 bucks on eBay for a key though.

>>740505077
or you find removewat and never see a watermark again

>>740501202

Have you ever heard of Android? Linux has surpassed Windows as the most widely-used OS, you stupid cunt.

I don't have any problems with win 7.

I "upgraded" to win 10 about 7 months after it was released. Worst idea ever.

>Disabled automatic everything.
>disabled the shit out of telemetry
>prevented it from connecting to anything microsoft via the router and the host file.

Started having problems inside 2 months. Computer started waking up in the middle of night, even disabling hardware ability to wake up the computer.

>Lots of outgoing data at 3am. What is this?

Just a bunch of bullshit. so, no.

Things may have change with it. Is it better?

Anyone?

>>740502941
kek
>You're making points against the thing I shill for that I am unable to refute
>just stop pls

>>740499736
Just bought a refurbished i5 desktop that had win 7 for $200. Windows 10 would be an extra $100, so fuck that.

>>740499736
am i the only one still using Windows 2000?

>>740499736
Because autodesk opengl drivers don't function correctly in Windows 10. Fuck that, I'm sticking with Win 7 until they fix that shit.

>>740505383
Win10 bypasses host file, so router blocking is necesito.

>>740505814
Win2000 pro was solid on hardware that supported it, with old software it would be fine.

Avid ran like a champ on Win2000 pro

>>740506059
>Win10 bypasses host file,

I had that dirty fucking feeling I was wasting my time with the hosts file.

Tell me more faggot. How can I have it and it not fuck up so badly?

>>740506090
OH yeah, addressing all 3.2GB of RAM

>>740506220
Im switching over to linux and just buying games that support it. Fuck microsoft.

>>740505814
Windows 2000 was the most stable operating system I ever ran. Too bad driver support for it was virtually nonexistent.

>>740504419
>hurrr hurrr muh oeratioun systems is better cause hurrr hurrr."

This was my actual logic, btw

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>>740506059
>bypasses host file
Now what possible reason could they ever have for doing this, aside of course from "people might try to hinder our telemetry"

This shit right here is just fucking unacceptable and I don't get how they can keep pulling shit like this with such little consequence.

>>740506353
>Im switching over to linux and just buying games that support it. Fuck microsoft.

I don't blame you. So, does Steam support HL2 games on Linux now.

What about CS:GO?

>>740506761
Ikr. You can see a tech saying to a manager "but they can bypass our telemetry with the hosts file!"

"Oh well, just hard code the addresses then! Just make it work. "

>>740506978
Yes and yes

>>740499736
WTF
i am on ubundu you fucktwat.

>>740506761
>>740506059
>>740505383

Manually entering every single IP address/url to block, one at a fucking time into the router sux balls.

I am patient, and I don't mind it, but it sux ass.

>>740507078
ubuntu i mean

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>>740507042
Hell yes!

>>740499736
#LinuxMint

>>740507112
You shouldnt have to do it, microsoft has screwed the pooch with windows 10. Everything they have done is a big "fuck you" to users.

>>740501038
wow fucking idiots that can't fucking grammar

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>>740506761
You agreed to their terms of service faggot

They know you don't read and just click "accept"

so now you have to eat their dick. quit bitching.

>>740507356
Agree with you for a daiky computer.

Using freebsd also for a nas.

>>740499736
It's better than Linux, and works unlike mac. Faggot. What are you using? A fucking rock. Op post is bait.

>>740505265
Have you heard of nobody gives a shit? Also, I would barley call a mobile software an OS. I wouldn't call ChromeOS an OS.

win 8.1 isn't as bad as win10 when it comes to spying right?

>>740507687
>It's better than Linux, and works unlike mac.

Are there people out there struggling to get Mac OS to work?

I don't have a mac, but I used to work with one and it worked very well.

>>740507871
He just doesn't eat apples i bet.

>>740499736
Yeah OP why would anyone want to not be apart of a botnet fucking faggots

>>740505383
>i disabled automatic updates
>i then got a virus
>i then blamed microsoft
WannaCry
and this is why apple is just better at security than microsoft and android.
microsoft: hey can you let me update your computer?
android: you want an update, faggot? should've bought a top of the line samsung. good luck with your $100 android and updates
apple: idgaf what you don't want. heres the update

>>740508083
>>i then got a virus

nope. I never got a virus as far a I can tell. Nothing that Hitman pro would find or Kaspersky could detect anyway.

Additionally, exploring all the processes and services yielded nothing.

No need to cry. I was only a little frustrated with the way it was waking up, and some memory leaks within it, and certain shit not working as advertised.

If you use anything above 7, you've been data cucked by massive advertising corporations, and whatever other fallacies you faggots have.

Win 10 is shit, collects all your data, restricts usage, blah blah blah im too fucking tired to rant about it.

just read this:
https://itvision altervista org/why-windows-10-sucks html

>>740508511
but you do see a reason why they had to force updates?
people are stupid, like you are.
>oh i got an anti-virus program!
>ill manually update when i want!
>forgets to manually update a month later
>goes 3 months before updating
i've had microsoft OS's since 2003.
it always worked as advertised
only time it has failed on me is when i accidentally fucked shit up
take some personal responsibility
>i disabled certain items in my OS
>my OS is now not working as advertised

>>740507560
ToS have historically NOT held up in a court of law. This isn't even the issue, it is that their anti-consumer practices are forcing the hand of anyone who cares about these things.

In this specific example, I can't use the hosts file to prevent unauthorised m$ connections because they hardcoded around it. I can't use the router because it will likely break updates for my flatmates laptop. Now if I apply workplace safety principles of EMI to this threat, you will see both elimination and minimization are insufficient protection, so isolation is my only option.

Now the only thing I really want that m$ has by the balls would be dx12. So this installation of windows is purely to run my steam games that benefit from native directx. No useful info ever exists for a second within this OS unless it was encrypted before leaving the truecrypted linux partition.

This turned out extremely convoluted but my point is that the lengths m$ have gone to have caused me and I'm sure many others to completely lose trust in anything they say do or release.

>>740508688
I have no idea, but Win7 seems to work great for me.

How long will new hardware will support it though.

Next forced transition will be back to mint.

>>740500279
>.exe

>>740508969
Win 7 is the closest thing to XP, which was the greatest OS to have ever existed.

>>740509113
>wine

people are always this retarded

windows 95 release
>REEEEEEEEE MUH SUPERIOR 3.1

windows 98 release
>REEEEEEEEE MUH SUPERIOR 95

windows 2000 release
>REEEEEEEEE MUH SUPERIOR 98

etc etc. let the faggots be faggots.

>>740508891
But, I do these exact same changes in Win7, and it works perfectly. No odd behaviors, no freeze ups, no fuck ups at all.

It just works, and I have not had to reload in two years. It works great. It plays all my Steam games and a bunch of other games.

Just 32GB RAM, 512GB SSD and some spindle drives for storing other shit on.

>>740503298
There are some serious inconsistencies in your little story there pal. I'm calling bullshit.

I know this is the last place to ask but can anyone vouch for how credible it would be to make a program that takes an exe input and changes all calls to linux friendly ones? If this is a possibility I would switch in a heartbeat, wine and VMs are simply shit.

>>740509136
>closest thing to XP, which was the greatest OS to have ever existed.

I love my 7, but I didn't get along with XP. It was not good for me. I understand a lot of people really liked that OS though. It was just me I guess.

>>740505570
You didn't refute any of his points either.
It's time to move on cletus. The future is now.

>>740509411
and when XP came out everyone went REEEEEEE THEY TRACK U THRU AUTHENTICATION REEEEEEEEEEE

kinda like the shit they're saying about 10. basically when people are too retarded to make it work they think up bullshit stories like this to justify their luddism

>>740509136
My gf gave me her "old" laptop which has 8 on it and I desperately want to put XP on it but it's not as simple as booting from an XP disc

>>740509327
>wine and VMs are simply shit

I had good luck with wine tho. How long has it been since you tried it?

>>740502681
>ads
>for free shit
wew lad

>>740509480
The future is indeed now. Google has spearheaded the android project to the point where linux now holds a majority of devices, dev support is growing. More and more people are getting sick of the anti-consumer policies of your employer. The future looks nice.

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>>740509172
>No actual argument

>>740509788
I do agree with that. I do hope linux surpasses Microsoft. At the moment i'm gunna stick with Windows 10 because it can play all of my games better.

>>740509644
I wouldn't call $100-$200 free...

My hardware doesn't have compatible drivers because it is too old.
No excessive Telemetry
I know the operating system backwards and forward at this point.
Despise Apple as a company
Don't like using linux

>>740499736
Windows 10 Enterprise is good enough for me. It doesn't come with all the baggage that the consumer versions have. Still shit compared to OSX though.

>>740501722
i honestly would too if it was compatible with direct x 10 - 11 -12

>>740510069
I've never gotten anything that expensive advertised to me.

>>740510124
*compatible with 10
8.1 is garbage

>>740509949
Wine is a program for Linux and Mac to run windows programs. Doesn't always work though. It only supports WinXP apps... So, doesn't work all the time if ever, I also have PlayOnLinux handy.

>>740509626
A while ago, to be fair. I also had an nvidia card back then which linux didn't like talking to. How is it now? Would it be capable of running the average steam game at a playable framerate? I can live without AAA titles.

>>740499736
I used to give a shit about things like this. Then I found some real problems.

>>740508083
Ah, yes, Apple! They're security has never been compromised at all! Nothing's ever been hacked from them, not even photos! /s

>>740510270
Unless if your coming from 8 or 7, it's $100+

>>740509411
xp came out right before everybody had 24/7 internet connectivity
it was simple and lightweight.
it's the equivalent of having a stock android phone.
it didn't come with anything preinstalled.

i could cold boot into XP in less than 20sec with a normal HDD and without any enhanced BIOS settings.
i upgraded to win7 and went from sub 20 second boots to 45-60 second boots
i just updated my computer to a 3rd gen Intel cpu, mobo and SSD. i now get <15 boot times.

XP master race.

>>740510418
>win10+ssd
>4 seconds from pressing power button to login screen

>>740510418
>right before everybody had 24/7 internet connectivity
yeah in the third fucking world. I had 256kbit DSL already long before XP

>>740510520
A couple extra boots seconds < spyware by Microsoft

>>740510382
lrn2read
i was talking about updates....like patching holes
how to patch in win7: only if you allow it to
how to patch in android: hope you have a <2yr old top of the line samsung phone, if not, you're shit outta luck.

>>740510716
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
that argument again. it's been used about every release of windows since and including XP.

My PC boots in 18 seconds using Windows 10. There's no reason not to switch to 10.

>>740507768
Probably because you have no idea what an Operating system is.

i had the option to get windows 10 a few days ago but i instead got windows 7 ultimate, only problem i have with my computer atm is updates not configuring so i just disabled them, have to get that looked at

>>740510774
Xfce Linux > windows

>>740510520
i disabled all those settings that save to the hdd.
plus my motherboard is about 4 or 5 years old
although i do need to go back into my BIOS to change a setting because i used to get <10 second boots

>>740510418
>i could cold boot into XP in less than 20sec with a normal HDD

Sounds about right, now that I remember it. The longer I had XP installed, the worse it got. I usually did a fresh install about every year for several years, until 7 came along.

>>740510994
>hai guise i just lernd how to su LOONIX IS DA BESTEST lol windoze cucks

>>740510323
Ah okay... Sorry. You win I guess lol. I feel like an idiot now. I'll have to give it a try, work okay with games?

>>740510953
They are nothing to what Windows or Linux can do.

>>740505383
I don't even keep anything on my laptop anymore since I noticed W10 constantly sending out data whenever I have more than a hundred photos and videos saved. Fucking gubment backdoor big brother bullshit.

Daily patches. Daily virus scans. Sometimes multiple times a day. They wouldn't need to update so often if they'd just build a decent OS in the first place.

>>740510729
Speed of the patch or them forcing you to do it doesn't mean shit if your patches are shit.

Because we all know that Apple product have never leaked any data ever /s.

>>740511216
>cause it's not perfect, it's shit

>>740511159
I think the constant updating bullshit is what bothers me the most.

I had it running on mine with no updates, and on my wife's I had it updating automatically.

She stayed pissed off at her 'puter, because it was constantly updating something and nothing wold work better after an "update".

windows 7 for fucking LIFE BEST OS.

>>740511216
>Because we all know that Apple product have never leaked any data ever /s.

Does it leak data? are you sure it does?

I don't have a mac, or anything that runs IOS, but I am curious.

>>740511313
Your patch either fixes the problem or doesn't. There's no perfect patch. It either works or it doesn't - in apples case; doesn't.

>>740499736

>being this autistic

>>740511433
it happened once so it's forever shit
linux has never had a virus, like ever.
android never had a virus ever.
windows has never had a virus, like ever

>>740511345
>windows 7 for fucking LIFE BEST OS.

or until you get ready to upgrade/replace your hardware and nothing is supported by Win 7.

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>>740499736
>Autistic or just plain stupid?

>>740511513
>it happened once so it's forever shit
>linux has never had a virus, like ever.
>android never had a virus ever.
>windows has never had a virus, like ever

Unfalsifiable claims only matched by religious/supernatural claims.

>>740511433
Leak may not be the best way to describe it. But I sure as shit wouldn't trust them with my data (look at any of the fappening leak dumps, they had ample amount of time to fix it).

>>740511486
please name an OS that issues security updates and the community doesn't complain about an update creating a problem
ill wait /s

>>740511711
>(look at any of the fappening leak dumps, they had ample amount of time to fix it).

Most of those leaks came from piss poor passwords. They were literally brute forced from silly memorable simple passwords.

Am I wrong about this?

>>740511325
Same.
It got a little better after the creators update but it still irks me when I'min the middle of something and it decides it's time to start patching shit and scanning for viruses without warning.

>>740511773
first off: I don't have an apple

But, I worked on some. Apple OS updates are not that bad honestly. They're infrequent compared to Win10.

>>740499736
Because my install of Windows 7 Ultimate N has been rock solid since 2011. Zero problems. Wish I could say the same for my wife's Samsung Ultrabook with Windows 8. I mean that one's usually okay... But it does hang and need a forced reboot now and then. Never with 7.

>>740499736
cos win 10 = win 7 +unnecessary programs and ads that lowering performance and ocupy ram
+ microsoft know what files you have + littelary ads in your start bar (for example minecraft)
i have oem win 8 but cracked win 7 cos launcher for moded freespace2game work only on win7

At work, we're building a new version of an existing B2B application using Node, but we have to support IE 7

>>740512054
>It got a little better after the creators update

What is this madness you speak of?

Maybe Win 10 is not as bad as it was the first year it came out?

When it decides it wants to do something it just does it and practically bogs it down, until you figure out on your own that your bandwidth is being hogged by updates being downloaded

>>740500311
>looks like
what are you a fucking fag?
if you want a cute bar princess then download one there are so many for win 7
you can even make win 7 look like mac os

>>740499996
Quads hath spoken

>>740511773
I'm assuming that you'll allow me to use any OS as an example?

If so then linux distros you can build from scratch yourself. I've built my own before and I sure as shit not complained.

Or is that answer not sucking up to Apple enough for you?

>>740512374
>>>740499996
>Quads hath spoken

Shhhhhhhh.......those are not quads

>>740511875
Yeah no you're right. OSX is unix based and is actually very secure. The downside to this is that most of the security is achieved by locking things down and preventing the user from accessing certain things. That's why linux is a thing.

>>740512413
>name an OS that issues security updates
>an OS that issues

Because of the joy I get from you being mad about it XD

I use el capitan have Ubuntu on a old dell laptop then iOS . Not much of gamer but when I due I fire up the old ps3 windows is great for gaming pc but that's it.

>>740512505
>The downside to this is that most of the security is achieved by locking things down and preventing the user from accessing certain things. That's why linux is a thing.

Yeah, and most people would not need root access for much.

Apple OS keeps the kernel pretty safe

>>740512523
Shit. I'll update the owners of the repositories that I get my security updates from and tell them to stop issuing me updates! Ive added their repos to my OS and they're not issuing me anything! I'm glad I found this anon, you've shown the hundreds of programmers that work on them that they're not issuing anything!

>>740511325

Worst part is the stupid quality and secruity updates bundled since people figured out all they had to do to avoid the telemetry bullshit was not install the update that had it. Now, no choice, you want security? They get to spy on you and let NSA backdoor your oss

>>740506761
nothing to hide, nothing to fear

>>740513232
After some updates, the computer was worse, slower or froze up.

It either did not change the performance for better, or it got worse

There was never "ahh, this works better"

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me use w7 cus ez
too much effort to update
dont wanna buy a key

>>740501038
>all their spyware uninstalled
>he thinks he can get rid of it all
good one

>>740502404
http://mirror.corenoc.de/digitalrivercontent.net/

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>>740499736
Becasue I actually own the damn software
Because they wont remove paint or fuck with my settings after I bought the software
Because they never auto set the install to spy on me or collect data
Because a damn marketing store to give money isn't built into the start menu
Because it's easier and less of a hassle to install games
Because it doesn't come with adware and bloatware disguised as an antivirus

>>740511108
it's"meh"
If you want to play modern videogames stick with windows.

its the better choice, im on 10 and hate it

I had Windows 7 on my computer. I stupidly did the 10 upgrade which totally fucked up my computer. I spent days working with it, then removed it. My computer was still fucked up so I went to the store and got an Apple and am a happy person.

Fuck you Bill Gates and the horse you rode in on.

>>740512947
oh man, custom linux distro.
nobody who has custom made their own linux distro has ran into errors.
if you google linux update errors, absolutely nothing comes up

>>740501202
Test

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It really astonished me how many major business and corporations use 7 as the enterprise standard still

>>740514743
if it ain't broke dont fix it.
its that simple.
windows7 gets updates.
im assuming enterprise will be getting updates for the next couple of years

>>740514868
Yea, my company JUST now finished migrating the last stragglers off of XP to 7 last year. God damn shitshow

>>740506059
>Win10 bypasses host file,
No it doesn't, I use it all the time for setting up websites. Windows is bad enough, there is no point in spreading lies like this.

>>740499736
Because I´m Mexican (Good reason huh? You mutt)

>>740509178
The ride never ends.

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>2017
>people still use Hard disk drives

SSD master race reporting in

>>740510334
>I also had an nvidia card back then which linux didn't like talking to.
That could only be because you didn't bother to install Nvidia drivers. Nvidia has supported Linux properly for decades by now. The only complaint from the Linux community is that the driver is proprietary and cannot legally be packaged with distros.

i upgraded to windows 10 when I got my new PC. I miss windows 7 so much... been using 10 for about 2 months, and it is a fucking piece of shit

>>740516693
explain why its worse

>>740510994
>Xfce Linux
That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. Go back to your explorer windows.

>>740516495
lol typical linux response.
>its not broken, you're doing it wrong

>>740499736
because win10 is shit you dipshit

>>740511150
That doesn't make them any less of an operating system.

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>>740516495
>Nvidia has supported Linux properly for decades by now.
>properly

Yeah, no. Neither NVidia nor AMD have historically supported Linux properly. Their drivers are absolutely horrible and come along once in a blue moon if you're lucky. That has been one of the biggest hurdles for game makers in transitioning to Linux platforms and it remains one to this day. In recent years, things have slowly begun improving (more so on AMD's side), but it might be another decade before any *nix system catches up. That's assuming distros can find some common ground and stop bickering about every little fucking thing, like the position of window controls is the most important thing in the fucking world.

>>740516807
Not that anon, but
>>740514162
My friend got windows 10 and aside from updates in directEX and speed, it's a flaming piece of shit

Every couple of days he was telling me about software that came with it running in the background and the million pieces of adware
The fucking windows menu has a store in it. It's a giant advertisement. That's not appropriate for someones computing environment.

The same shit they tried pushing into the Xbox with always online and drm
It's obvious that they tried pushing this online social media marketplace business model as a full force thing
I'm glad it backfired with each of those two

>>740499736
I use Windows 10.... but I do miss Windows 7. Windows 10 is absolute garbage.

>>740499736
Nostal fags

>>740499736
Because I prefer 7 over 8 and 10

>>740499736
enjoy you private info being stolen and 24/7 monitoring of anything you do on your potato comp. Its 2017 and you are this fucking stupid to be so easily nose led to waste your money or time on the next big SHIT. Git gud.

>>740517215
maybe it's because i have a win7 pro oem key, i have never seen an "ad" on win10.

>>740517590
on second thought, i might've seen ads on the menu but i disabled all that in the settings when i first got it.

>>740514489
Bill gates is no longer Microsoft. He had nothing to do with windows 10.

>>740516246
>their bullshit servers,
Ok but that isn't true either.

>>740517769
I mean it's designed to get you interested in it's store, with the prominence it gets on the home menu
You are almost forced to update against your control. You can't just have an independent offline system

>>740516987
>its not broken, you're doing it wrong
aka, RTFM

Just use ms-dos

>>740499736
currently using 7
>blow me

>>740517143
>Neither NVidia nor AMD have historically supported Linux properly.
And has always been shit for Linux, but that's not true for Nvidia. Nvidia has always worked great for me. Either way, if you use the open source driver, nouveau, well yeah that is shit.

>>740503702
lol.

>>740518106
>it just works

>>740518469
Really, if you don't give a damn about how your OS works, then stick with win or osx.

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>>740517989
look at android for offline optional security updates.
there is a legit reason why you are being forced to update your computer.
> it's designed to get you interested in it's store,
so?
who cares.
use it, don't use it.
i don't even have a MS account. ive had this for well over a year now.

>>740518771
its a fucking OS, not a child.
i should push a button and everything should just work. security updates automatically run in the background.

Windows 7 was the hallmark of a new generation of code, moving away from the 'strap-on' process that made Windows great. Don't forget, it was a 'strap-on' process on top of DOS to start.

Windows 8 was a graphical interface that was meant to entice the user, it was part fundraiser, but mostly to see if 'graphics' really sold - and it DID! But they failed to incorporate stability and software interaction at the same time...

Windows 8.1 came along in an effort to bridge the gap, but people didn't understand upgrading to the same thing they had, plus software was unsure if they should upgrade to the upgrade - as another upgrade would cost more development money! All was lost....

Micro$oft took a break and made Windows 10. This version of Windows was visually appealing beyond reason, but also they promised the software developers that 'this was the last version of Windows' in that it would be forever updated! They won back much of the market and today the once strong XP market base is slowly shrinking.

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>>740499736
Your so stupid you tinck the world is your room stupid FUCK y need to torture you stupid FUCK...........!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone who says Win10 is great has given up.

>>740519030
It's hard not to use it when daily deals are pushed into your face all the time.
"Just ignore" isnt a good excuse when defending a product that you customise as your own and use everyday
Having an optional store app is fine
Putting stuff for sale in the home menu forcefully is not ok

>>740519030
>i should push a button and everything should just work. security updates automatically run in the background.
This is a dumb statement. You can do that in any OS. In Linux you have actual choices, like file systems, boot loaders, window managers, and distros. You don't have choices with win or osx because most users don't care about those things.

>>740519183
Today, XP makes up a large part of the market base, larger than Ubuntu or many other individual standing linux variants.

While XP is a standing competitor, and it has a great deal of the corporate, and home user, market share - Windows 10 is still charging strong as the market leader as an up and comer from the markets earliest innovator and billion dollar market domination developer...

P.S. howamidoing?

>>740519611
XP, being only a variant on the UNIX platform, as most (or all) LINUX platforms are, or came from, the Windows 10 platform stands out with it's distinctive innovation and individualism, much gained from it's decades in the field and competition with other brands.

It strives to outperform such platforms as Ubuntu, Apple and even XP with no trouble. But it should expect none, with XP not even supported, Ubuntu on crowed funding and Apple shoveling money into it's O.S. from product hardware sales, Windows 10 is one of the only free-standing products which is software only and still releasing it's security updates in current year. The ongoing growth of the operating system, it's security protocols and anti-malware are only cornerstones of it's infrastructure, wherein you find the foundation of it's operating systems core, which makes the user interface which is now so world renowned.

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>>740519453
do they come back if you disable it?
honest question.
maybe the Pro version is different.
i disabled it when i first upgraded to win10.
never seen an ad since.
or i've never noticed it.

>>740520027
It would be truly troublesome to find another software platform which can perform so dynamically as Windows 10, which EUFI based booting gives way to many options from install to device compatibility - even positioning the software into mobile O.S. sticks so that you are bootable on the go.

Ubuntu's nearest feature to this includes a segregated boot sector defined on creation with a maximum drive space of only a few gigs, which once filled with anything from software to files - is full.

Windows 10 however has the dynamic ability to work within the given parameters to make itself work for you, today, tomorrow and years from now.

It is the choice of mobile computer enthusiasts and those aspiring to be computer professionals on the go!

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>>740520027

>>740519581
>You don't have choices with win or osx because most users don't care about those things.
okay.
so win or osx is perfectly fine for 99% of the people.
forced updates are a good thing for 99% of the people.
if they had the choice to opt-in for security updates, 99% of the people would "do it later"...never

>>740520371
>>740520371
P.S.

>UEFI . fuck me. typo.
>Windows sucks pretty much always. Still.

>>740520168
I have no idea about different versions, but my friend legally bought windows 10, and that same menu is full of notifications and ads.

I don't hate on windows 10 because it's new or nostalgia (I am only nostalgic to XP but use 7)
I hate the philosophy that microsoft followed with this single network device model

They want your laptop to share your credit card, your xbox to share your tv, your tv to share the microwave (hence the windows store and xbox marketplace being available)

Which becomes shoehorned and anti consumer when this comes from a money making/marketing point of view. It's changes that make what should be free and open more restricted for use

>>740520508
>99% of the people would "do it later"...never
That is exactly the problem. That is how things like Wannacry spread.

WIN 7 is the best

>>740520583
i personally like the sharing.
i have my chrome/firefox/Opera browser linked to my phone.
but nobody is forcing you to do anything.
my win10 computer isn't linked to anything since i have no MS account.
and again...
have you tried deleting/uninstalling the fucking ads?
right click
uninstall

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>>740499736
Nice try Windows 10

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>>740520401
I did my best to support it.

>>740521033
Fair enough, I believe in choice
But you can uninstall them? My friend never was able to
He can barely uninstall the mcafee bloatware that came with the OS
If you can uninstall them, it's news to me, can't say I've ever tried

Man, I dont want to hate it or say "stop liking this thing I dont like"
But so much hassle to get it running without intrusive stuff+the data collecting aspect that you have to turn off just doesn't sit well with me. So violations of privacy, which isn't what computers are about.
If I wanted the OS developer to think for me, I would have gotten an apple device

(the terrible irony is im using a macbook pro that I partitioned and installed windows on)

>>740521599
i use my computer basically as a web-browser/media player.
only data MS will collect from me is that i like streaming media and surfing the web...and lots of tranny porn
hey, MS, can you update windows10 to get me better access to tranny porn?

data collection:
tinfoil hat people: they are using it in an evil way to spy on you and probably blackmail you in the future

normal people: just trying to see what i do and don't do on the computer to make future windows OS's work better for the majority of people

also
>implying your ISP isn't tracking your habbits
>implying your iphone isn't tracking your habbits
>implying your android phone isn't tracking your habits
>implying all the apps you install aren't tracking your habits

>>740500216
Except it's in constant Beta and will ruin your system.

>>740522149
also
>cars tracking data

>>740522149
I don't believe in the government conspiracy aspect of data collection (much)
But my biggest worry is advertising
They sell the data to advertisers, and thats just wrong.

If they make money off of my personal info, I should at least get a cut out of it

>>740522281
tell me about it.
insurance is about to expire.
need to renew.
it just went up $40.
decided to check out others.
they were all more expensive, except for progressive.
with snapshot enabled, i would save $40 (every 6 months)
im retarded and would rather stay with my current provider and take the $40 increase
fuck you, progressive, i don't need you to know about how bad of a driver i really am.

>>740522334
just install any linux distro.
then learn all the commands
then sign up for every linux support forum where you will spend the first week or two asking for help fine tuning your computer.

>>740523356
I'm quite happy with windows 7, thanks

>>740499996
Windows 7 was literally never a better operating system than Windows 10. The reason people used Windows 7 instead was because of bugs on a newly released OS as usual and the telemetry botnet shit, but the bugs are gone and Windows 7 got the same botnet bullshit years ago. There's literally no reason to use Windows 7 over Windows 10 in 2017.

>>740523588
well at least you have another 2.5yrs before they stop releasing updates for it

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>>740501038
>i have 10 installed with telemetry disabled and all their spyware uninstalled.

>>740500000

>>740523949
I dont update it though
I've had updates switched off since I installed this last in 2013

>>740522149
I fucking hate dumb niggers like you. Please kill yourself.

>>740499996
>>740499999

>>740499736
>windows wants to install creators update
>no.jpg
>too bad, auto update while I'm asleep
>laptop is brick

>>740501038
lmao the spyware is literally part of the OS. it can't removed

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>>740524103

Mac users have been running the same os for 16 years.

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>>740524089
>mfw another anon posted screenshots of his win XP computer with a 2yr outdated chrome browser

>>740524251
>this meme again

>>740503322
1st, those are free until a point then require purchases with microtransactions.

2nd, visually or audibly intruding "suggestions" that shouldn't be on someone's desktop is the same as having pop up ads, they are advertising a different product that isn't desired.

>>740499736
Because of device driver signature enforcement. Can't be disabled, so pc won't boot without manual intervention.

>>740507560
So either agree to be ass raped with invasive maleware and telemetry to use the only OS that is well supported and has the largest stable ecosystem, or don't use your own computer without installing linux.

>>740524566
Agreed. My main complaint is that they are splashed in my face when I'm not looking for suggestions. In Linux, with most packet manager tools, I can ask for suggestions for some type of tool.

>>740524760
exactly
this is how the market works.
i like your product
i will tell you how much i truly like it buy buying and using it

what anon says:
i HATE YOUR PRODUCT MS!
I WILL DISABLE ALL YOUR SPYING TOOLS

what MS hears:
i willingly installed windows10 on my computer.
and will continue to use it for the next foreseeable future...until you release another OS.

>>740520647
Stupidity spreads virus and male are, not lack of updates
T. Anon using win7 for the last 7 years without a single update or virus/mallard

>>740501722
me too but so many problems with new software, so i have to change soon to 7

I would have stayed with 7, but my rig was running 32 bit windows on a 64 compatible system. Upgrade to 10 64 bit was free and a massive performance boost

>>740525076
Congrats, you know how not to blindly click on every link you see. You are not a 99%er

>>740512370
Yeah but it still functions like shit when you do that kind of thing. I like Windows 7, and 10. But I have a Mac too because reasons. Don't try and customise it fam. It does nee work.

>>740525419
Kek

Anon. The world has a problem

>>740525249
enjoy your nsa

>>740522649
Kek
I talked with them before
They asked if I wanted to try that shit and I just laughed in the woman's face.
She was confused as fuck until I pointed out that my truck is 25 years old (I had already told her make/model/year) and doesn't have obd-ii or a black box.
She then told me coverage was denied for something that old.

If you care about privacy, security, reliability and performance you'd use Linux, which is free and runs on pretty much anything.

Neets playing GTA or some shit all day will likely run Windows.

I write software for a living. Window is shit. MacOS is less shit but still not as good as Linux.

>>740525647
Imagine the day when you cannot buy insurance for cars without the spybox

>>740525609
I'm sure they're enjoying watching me play New Vegas and basically nothing else

>>740525751
That is when I finally snap and go live off the grid.
Insurance is the biggest con in the history of man, anyway.

>>740525938
>watching you side with the powder gang

>>740525938
>"hey anon, we heard you like jingling spurs"
>"Check out this cowboy themed bar called the Leather dungeon"
>"oh it seems you chose Veronica over Cass"
>"YOUR WAIFU IS SHIT"

>>740499736
on laptop for internet, films and writing/gaming win10will be ok. But for work (solidwork, cad and other cam shit) win7 still is the best. Not to mention it works very well with dedicated graphic cards

>>740525249
>on a 64 compatible system

You mean 99% of computers built in the last 15 years or so?

>massive performance boost

You dont what you are talking about do you?

>>740526039
Still messing around in my first playthrough, doing my best to stay NCR.
Set up 2 radio stations recently (via geck), that was fun

>>740526285
V and Rex are an OP team against enemies that don't poison

>>740525682
Vulkan is coming, soon there will be literally 0 excuses for running windows.

>>740502242
>Let's make Winderz look like a phone!
10 is broken out of the box.
That and my CAM software won't run on it.

>>740526467
New Vegas is best rpg imo. Godspeed

>>740526467
>not installing unlimited companions mod
>not installing loli companion
>not installing death claw sex animations so you can drink and watch you loli companion get railed

>>740526400
It improved some of my performance in games, yes.

Also, the upgrade wiped all the pre-installed crapware, as I had to do the USB install to change to 64

>>740502786
Dude, it doesn't matter. A clean install will break within minutes at MS's own hands.

>>740501722
i also will but problem with software .

>>740526573
Mods like that are for second or third playthroughs for me (I regret modding Skyrim to hell first go round)

>>740526716
That's not Windows' fault. Stop downloading all those faggottraps.avi.exe files.

>>740525647
you should still be able to get insurance but without a $40 discount
you can opt out.
the OBD-II device only.
i think it only has the ability to measure mileage, when your car is running, and acceleration/deceleration.
the last part is what they like the most and what i hate the most.
i live in Austin.
every fuckin road in Austin is a parking lot.
everybody is pissed about sitting in traffic and will gun it the second they have enough room...and then slam their brakes.
or maybe its just me

>>740499736
I just now upgraded from XP to 7, so don't give me you're bullshit

>>740499736
dude, they still use xp on the computers at work. 7 would be an improvement

>>740499736
hey whats wrong with google chrome

>>740506012
>IV user
Fucking this!

>>740526824
Oh shit nigga didn't realize this was your first playthrough
>tfw you beat new Vegas 50 times and skyrim 100
>tfw you still play them
>tfw you have no face

>>740526904
>clean install
>downloaded games

>>740526973
are you working for trump or Hillary?

>>740527067
>400 hours in Skyrim
>never completed the main story
Bethesda does big, even if there's little depth

I love 7.
8 was a joke.
8.1 still a joke.
10 is a shiny version of 8.1

>>740504708
Tor as your main browser?
>have fun with the fbi kiddo

>>740502242
Universal apps? You mean the google playstore ripoff?

>>740501722
I remember holding out from upgrading to windows XP.
Bloated as fucked, needed a whole gig of ram to run properly pre service packs.
I held out from 7 aswell, mostly due to the fact they dropped DOS and that the big selling point was Aero garbage that nobody uses.

Windows 10 has too many egregious design choices for me to ever use.

>>740527192
Skyrim is a playground tk build your own game. Anyone who hates it has no imagination and no idea what mods are>>740527192

Windows 8.1 :^)

>>740527094
I downloaded games from stream and MS store to win10, only had problems with Nvidia audio here.

>>740502409
I have used Linux Mint for a while, loved it but there are litterally no games that run it. Also drivers are shit. Developers of games hate linux for no reason.

>>740527283
>Skyrim is a playground tk build your own game.
I kinda hate to say it but Minecraft is better for that.

>>740527283
Who said anything about hating it? I just said there's little depth IE no factions give a shit about each other, unlike New Vegas

And the fact that every draugr dungeon is just copypastad

>>740503322
>Free
The OS cost more than 150 bucks.

>>740499736
Because it works. It does all that I need it to do without being spyware.

When win7 stops being an option I will probably switch to linux for my web browsing computer and keep my current one to play my games on since no new good AAA games are being made and all the good indie ones will still run on my current hardware.

>>740527427
>Developers of games hate linux for no reason.

No they dont, they work with what they are given. The big holdup is DirectX for full utilization of a video card, and no real open source multi platform competitor

Now that Vulkan exists, things are going to quickly change in the linux gaming world

>>740527427
>I have used Linux Mint for a while, loved it but there are litterally no games that run it.
Games don't run Linux. Other way around.

>Also drivers are shit.
That is only true if you buy shit hardware.

>Developers of games hate linux for no reason.
There is a reason, and that is that Linux dev doesn't pay dev financially. It is a well executed form of communism.