You have 10 seconds to prove why homosexuality isn't

>>740241633
It occurs often in nature.

seen. better. looking. traps.

>>740241787
So does insanity.

>>740241818
/thread

>>740241818
So does heterosexuality. What's your point?

>>740241818
Find me an insane animal faggot.

>>740241633
Will those 10 seconds change how you view homosexuals? If not then what's the fucking point? So you can shitpost, eat that shitpost, and shit it out again?

>>740241633
since everyone is in fact bisexual, homosexual behavior is not unusual and therefore no disorder qed.

Even if it was a mental disorder why would it matter, It's not a violent one, All people can do is learn to live with it and if that is finding other people that share the same mental disorder then who cares. It doesn't affect you unless you're over sensitive and if you are that's probably a mental disorder too so you might want to get that checked.

>>740241729
Nude pic now

>>740241793
Kek

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>>740241633
Because Trump sucks dick

>>740242126
All vertebrates reproduce sexually. The whole purpose of life, strictly speaking, is to pass down your genes to the next generation. It thus makes no sense from an evolutionary stand point for any creature to be sexually attracted to an individual of the same sex. This is simple biology and basic logic anon.

>>740241633
>You have 10 seconds

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Do what you will with this.

>>740242157
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mnTU_hJoByA

>>740242670
That is a lie. Homosexuals are just as violent as heterosexuals.

>>740241633
It's not in the DSM 5

>>740241633
mental disorders can be highly subjective, for instance conciousness could be considered a mental disorder

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>>740241633
>traps
Sticking your dick in a hole that feels good is as much a mental illness as liking soda or pizza.

>>740241633
animals doing it too

>>740241633

Medical Definition of mental disorder.

1. A personality trait or set of traits that deviates from whats common or expected

2. Must be consistent in multiple life settings (home, school, work).

3. Must be causing a measurable drop in quality of life.


Homosexuality meets the first and second criteria. Not the third because a homosexual can lead a fine life if other people minded their own business. You have literally no reason to care about people you dont know.

And it simply does not qualify as a disorder by dsm-v definition.

>>740243171
Did you even watch your own video, dipshit?

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>>740243171

>>740243386
Of course

>>740242565
Proof? I'm pretty sure I'm only attracted to women

>>740243290
>(((dsm 5)))

>>740243437
What were you trying to prove with your video?

How should I prove a negative?
It is on you to prove it is a mental disorder as it occurs naturally and has no harming side effects.

>>740241633
It is a mental disorder/perversion; Sexual attraction in nature was cultivated in such a way that reproduction requires one male and one female. 2 males involved in reproduction merits zero results.

That being said who gives a fuck who someone wants to cum inside

>>740243501
Penguins can exibit insane behavior, moron

>>740243549
So you lied, you didn't watch the video. I reiterate, you are in fact a dipshit.

>>740243186
okay rip you win

>>740243060
Why does everything anybody does have to make sense "from an evolutionary stand point"?

From an evolutionary stand point, it also makes no sense to judge individuals of a species that don't reproduce. There are many possible upsides of homosexuality. Even if there weren't, it just. doesn't. matter.

>>740243662
The penguin is running to his death you dense faggot. Even if the researchers were to bring him back, exhausted and starving, he would immediately run back towards his impending doom. How is this not insanity?

>>740243801
This.

Plus we're animals with a cultural veneer. All humans are weird and fucked up in some way, all humans have faults and problems. If youre going to quote evolution, you must also understand evolution isnt perfect at all and kind of duct tapes together qualities that works and constantly tries new things through mutation.

Which is why the dsm-v definition of a disorder (posted here: >>740243384) is so specific. If it wasnt within those very precise perameters, everyone and their mum would have a mental disorder.

>>740243804
>Penguin leaves colony.
>HURR DURR ITZ INZANE

Whatever you say retard.

>>740241633
It is.

You have 10 seconds to prove that even if it is a mental disorder that automatically means they should be scrutinized?

>>740243801
>From an evolutionary stand point, it also makes no sense to judge individuals of a species that don't reproduce
I wouldn't start making such claims until you habe carefully thought through the implications. Consider a clan of socially-oriented carnivorous animals (humans or wolves, for example). Would it make much sense for the pack to devote resources to rearing a younger individual that will not reproduce and hence not contribute to the aggregation of food for the next generation of pups?

>>740244108
It is going towards certain death you trog. Read this >>740243060
Now tell me how the fuck that behavior will lead it to passing on its genes you collosal fucking faggot.

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>>740243060
The whole purpose YOU ascribe to life is passing down genes. There is no purpose in evolution. Evolution just mutates whatever the fuck it mutates and what sticks, sticks. Fuck off with your "simple biology and basic logic", learn some fucking first grade biology.

>>740244270
I'm
>>740244300
>>740243060
The claim in the op was not that we should demean or mistreat these people. It wa that the behavior is a mental disorder, which it is.

>>740244300
>NEETdom is a mental disorder
>MGTOW is a mental disorder.
>Abstinence is a mental disorder.

Should I keep going?

>>740244501
>which it is
Not according to the criteria of the DSM. Excuse me while I take the word of thousands of psychologists over a random armchair psychogolist anon.

>>740241633
Idk man, homosexuality isn't the problem. The real mental illness is transsexualism. A fag who wants to change their gender is straight up autism.

>>740244638
It's easy to say that when you're not trans anon.

>>740244499
Agreed, gays are basically eradicating themselves from genepool, and gay mutations aren't really preferable except if you are gay. Humanity is fine as long as gays fuck gays only and don't have any children to spoil.

>>740244705
Yeah, you're right. But if it isn't a mental illness, why do most trans people kill themselves? They know they ain't right in the head. It's one thing to be gay. But to be gay and think you're a woman is just plain fuckin retarded. You're goddamn right it's easy for me to say, lol. I'm not mentally ill. And just like the mentally ill, the worst ones are those who think everyone else is and they're perfectly normal.

>>740244757
As if it's as simple as "eradicating the gay" gene from the genepool lol. You clearly don't know how mutations work. It's not something you can breed out. It'll keep happening with every generation because of random mutations.

And why the fuck does it matter whether they fuck women or not and have children to "spoil" or not. Let people live the life they want. It's none of your business, you fuckhead.

>>740244300
Humans are not carnivorous, but w/e, besides the point.

>Would it make much sense for the pack to devote resources to rearing a younger individual that will not reproduce
Do all animals reproduce? There are many animals where males fight over who gets to mate with all females of the group. I don't exactly know this, but I don't think an animal not mating is that special. Animals without children can still help with rearing other's and literally anything else that needs to be done.

>>740244954
Because people are bastards and getting picked on/ostracized by a large part of society tends to leave people depressed and suicidal? That's not a trans specific thing, that's a societal thing.

>>740244954
Most trans people suffer from Gender Dysphoria. Gender Dyspohria is a mental disorder, Transsexualism isn't.

>>740244499
You're a fucking moron.
>The whole purpose YOU ascribe to life is passing down genes.
No, that is the general scientific consensus.
>Evolution just mutates whatever the fuck it mutates and what sticks, sticks.
Wrong again. Natural selection ACTS on mutations whose phenotype produces a more fit trait you fucking moron. This individual will reproduce more and hence contribute more to the gene pool in future generations (i.e. this trait will occur more often). Populations evolve, individuals do not. Based on your inability to grasp sich simple concepts please do us all a favor and do not propogate your genetic material to future generations.

>>740243060
They also all have an occurence of homosexuality at 10%.

Its extremely consistent.

When you have such consistency it means
A) it helps somehow. Maybe not by passing on genes, but contributes in some way to population control or resource pools

B) its an extremely easy mutation to achieve. Sexuality could be an extremely fragile construct and set of systems that can be thrown off very easily.

Evolution is also incredibly random and i sense a shred of nihilism in you, if Thats the case you should understand that its all just carbon based chemistry that turned into biology and there *is* no right or wrong way to do anything, so the only reason to oppose anyone elses lifestyle is pure hate and self appointed authority on your part.

3) animals are just perverse as fuck and do what feels good and it doesnt take much to hardwire them environmentally to just use any hole.

There could be even more reasons. But experts who study this shit for a living and are well educated still havent figured out the specific right answer.

So debate is as useless, and all it comes down to is mind your own life. Why debate here on your opinion on how wrong others are when i know for a fact (simply because youre human) youre filled to the brim with your own bullshit and fuckiness that probably needs urgent attention.

>>740245020
This post demonstrates you lack even th e most rudimentary understanding of evolution. Please remedy this and then we will debate.

>>740241633
People throughout history have always classified things behaviors/metalities that are against their value systems as a mental disorder. For instance, the Soviets would say a capitalist has a mental disorder and they'd send the to the gulags for rehabilitation.

Just because your bronze age fairy tales of the skywizard say dude's kissing is wrong, doesn't mean that it is. You're just a narrow minded halfwit trying to impose force your worldview on others.

See here's the thing, you claim homosexuals are trying to convert people, they aren't they just have different values that they're (key point) *not trying to impose on people*.

Different values/beliefs are fine insofar as they don't harm anyone and aren't forced on others.

And I know I was just trolled but I felt like commenting just in case there are genuine halfwits around like OP.

>>740244964
Gene ratio can be fixed with multigenerational persistence. Plud I intend to leave them to fuck themselves if they wish, no pressure.

The problem is the pressure gay parents do on their children. Just as gays are stigmatized by their parents, normal, non gay children are too by gay parents. Look it up on interwebz, children are trying to explain that they aren't gay and that they are more interested in opposite sex.

>>740245124
Semantics. By your own logic, you acknowledge that transsexuals are in fact, mentally ill. The thing that makes them mentally is what also makes them transsexual.

Op doesn't believe in reencarnation in different bodies

>>740241633
You have 10 seconds to prove that you are worthy of life.

>>740243319
You'll probably live a happier life if you just admit you're gay. Just saying.

>>740245293
>They also all have an occurence of homosexuality at 10%.
Source?
>When you have such consistency it means
A) it helps somehow. Maybe not by passing on genes, but contributes in some way to population control or resource pools
Now we're getting somewhere (IF what you said prior is true AND you can prove such behavior is somehow encoded in your genes).
>B) its an extremely easy mutation to achieve.
I highly doubt this. I'm skeptical of your claim all vertebrates have a steady 10% of individuals within a given species that exhibits this behavior. Perhaps the more pack / socially oriented.
>Evolution is also incredibly random and i sense a shred of nihilism in you
Wrong. Mutations are random, yes, evolution is certainly not.

>>740242565
>since everyone is in fact bisexual, homosexual behavior is not unusual and therefore no disorder qed.
I think this is entirely true, but granted you can't truly know how other people are inside their minds. Before Abrahamic religion virtually every culture on earth was openly bisexual. ALL ape species that we evolved from practice bisexuality. They get off with whatever/whoever they can. They just like cumming and have no hangups about how they get there.

Christianity made it a sin and burned people for it so it became much more repressed.

But it's funny that even among things that are consider bastions of hypermasculinity like football there's a shit ton of ass grabbing and towel slapping. And shit, the whole notion of men piling up on each other is a bit gay by itself. It's just socially acceptable sublimation of gay behavior.

I DO think the percentage varies in everyone. Like I'm predominantly attracted to women but there's something hot about big dick (you know how even heteros like big dicks in porn, that's more sublimated gay behavior) and traps. I'd never date or be romantically inclined with a man, but if I had a chance to experiment and no one would find out about it, I totally would....

See, you'll notice virtually every girl under 30 openly identifies as bi or at least has had some degree of same sex experimentation. And even though it isn't widely talked about most guys have jerked off with a buddy in their formitive years. But there's still a big stigma to male homosexuality though lesbianism is somewhat glorified by our culture. This explains why males are still reluctant to profess such inclinations. Most males who have been known to been involved with other guys are stigmatized as week and ostrasized socially and in business, so with men it stays repressed.

Everyone is bi. Deal with it.

>>740245372
You make a good point anon.

>>740241633
It does not prevent someone from being a fully functional, productive member of society. It does not correlate with diminished intelligence.

>>740244499
>There is no purpose in evolution.

lol read a book.
I suppose lobsters just decided to have giant claws for no reason one day?

>>740243134
There's a decent amount of correlation here but I can't find any studies about it. Therefore, I'll keep it in mind but won't give it much weight.

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>>740245228
Ok, since you're so arrogantly trying to prove me wrong (and failing to do so), I'll elaborate on my comment.

>No, that is the general scientific consensus.
Evolution is a process, not a thinking breathing organism with a sense of purpose. Evolution has no purpose. It just happens.

>Wrong again. Natural selection ACTS on mutations whose phenotype produces a more fit trait you fucking moron.
Let's break down my sentence there
>Evolution just mutates whatever the fuck it mutates
A.k.a. random mutation.
>and what sticks, sticks.
A.k.a. natural selection.

Survival of the fittest doesn't necessarily mean the strongest survive, it means those who are most fit to their environment survive. Obviously not having offspring will kill that path, but that's just that. There's no real objective purpose to pass on your genes, and any reputable evolutionary biologist would tell you that.

Natural selection does not "act" on anything. Natural selection is simply a process observed in nature. The environment enforces natural selection. Those who thrive in the environment, survive.

Again, this is not a conscious process. There is no purpose in this. We ascribe purpose. Without us being there to witness it, the process would still continue as it always has for millions of years without any label of purpose.

>>740245753
/thread

>>740245372
All crows might be black but not all things black are crows.

>>740245945
read >>740246005

>>740246154
Look up "the raven paradox"

it's kinda related

>>740246005
You're an idiot.

>>740246005
>Natural selection does not "act" on anything. Natural selection is simply a process observed in nature.
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-natural-selection-act-on-the-phenotype
You're an idiot, please kys or at the very least do not propogate your genetic material to future generations.

>>740245945
Whatever you do, do not read>>740246005
He is a fucking moron

>>740246493
>quoting quora

>>740246005
Oh and I may not be a practicing scientist but I do have degrees in biology and mathematics. What the fuck do you have you pompous little faggot?

>>740246281
>>740246493
>>740246581
Listen all of you. Evolution has no end goal or purpose. That is what makes it work. If you can't even grasp that single basic concept of evolution, you have a screwed up view of evolution.

>>740246686
Study some more?

>>740246613
>quoting an actual biologist
FIFY

For the record i do not like quora and think as a whole the community is toxic, but that has no bearing on my point or the authority of the scientist i linked to.

>>740246702
>tucks tail and scampers away in defeat, the post

>>740241633
Love is not a mental disorder, just a chemical reaction.

>>740246876
Mental disorders are often chemical imbalances, retard.

>>740241633
Because I'm pretty sure you don't want us to call you a retard

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>>740246862
believe what you want, evolution doesn't have the capacity to care lol

>>740246977
Never claimed it did

>>740243134
Yeah ok so what about those gay geese that don't have pet cats

>>740247010
neither does it have a sense of purpose.

Suggesting it's a mental disorder because it doesn't lead to a baby is naturalistic fallacy.

Suggesting it's a mental disorder because it was previously socially unacceptable is appeal to tradition, and so is also a fallacy.

Suggesting it's a mental disorder because it's harmful is going against leading medical opinion.

Suggesting it's a mental disorder because you find it icky is just dumb


STOP DOING THINGS I DON'T LIKE

>>740247078
Never claimed it did either. You simply refuse to understand the mechanics of it.

>>740241633
Since it had an evolutionary advantage and it does not effect the persons life in any negative way thus it's not a disorder.

>>740241633
Wykop odkrył 4chana...

>>740247117
>Suggesting it's a mental disorder because it doesn't lead to a baby is naturalistic fallacy.
Nice strawman faggot

>>740241633
You're maybe gay a little bit

>>740247198
No straw-man there friendo, it was an argument used in this thread. Thanks for throwing the autists favorite deflection out though. If you can tell me a reason you think it's a mental disorder that I haven't listed I'll happily tell you why it's retarded as well.

>>740247185
I understand the mechanics of evolution just fine. I just don't ascribe any purpose like passing on genes to it. There is no end goal or purpose in evolution. And since you like quora so much: https://www.quora.com/Does-evolution-have-a-purpose

>>740241818
Nope, insanity is mostly humans. Animals act on instincts mostly

>>740247382
Never stated it had a purpose. I know what evolution is, i know it perfectly well actually.

I simply stated that Homosexuality had advantages (and still do) in our spices.

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>>740241633
easy.
quick google of "mammals displaying homosexual behaviour"
seems pretty natural to me, happens cross-species

>>740247453
>Animals act on instincts mostly

I mean that's not true though, many animals show signs of consciousness. Corvids, Porcines, Porpoises, Apes; it's clear there's more than just instinct driving animals with high intelligence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Wa9SKxgHbM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZerUbHmuY04

>>740241633
That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed the same. Q.E.D.

>>740247717
/thread

>>740247473
Then I think we may have had some problems in our communication (due to the nature of an anonymous image board I guess), cause I have no disagreement with that. I've been arguing against the people who say there is no purpose in homosexuality "from an evolutionary standpoint" because they don't pass their genes as if that's any meaningful commentary on homosexuality or evolution.

>>740241787
Animals can have autism. Does that mean autism isn't a mental disorder?

>>740242565
No. Not everyone is bisexual. Just because you like cock and poon doesn't mean we all do faggot

>>740247799
Autism affects the quality of life of that animal. It likely won't be able to thrive well in its current environment, especially if it's a social species. So yes, that would be classified as a mental disorder.

>>740247323
You highly over-simplified the argument. Care explaining why
>>740243060
Is a naturalistic fallacy, first?

>>740242278
Yes. This is /b/. That's the point. It's all shitposts and porn if you haven't been here very long

>>740243319
Anon the news just came in. You're in fact extremely gay

>>740244300
You literally don't understand the most basic aspects of biology.

There is no "purpose" to passing on genes. It's not an "aim".

Also, animals can pass on their genes by supporting their clan. Read the Selfish Gene you fucktard.

>>740244499
This. Genetics doesn't mean the purpose of life is to pass on genes. Just like gravity doesn't mean the purpose of life is to be attracted to large objects.

>>740245228
It's not the consensus.
Also, learn reading comprehension.
>>740246005
This guy is correct
>>740246581
You're wrong.

>>740246686
You must be from a shit school. You clearly don't understand the difference between normative and positivist theory. Evolution is positivist. It's how it happened. The conclusion that evolution is therefore 'good', or that our 'purpose' is to pass on genes is a fallacy.

>>740247799
How the hell would you go about diagnosing an animal with autism?

>>740243544
ADHD occurs naturally and has no negative side effects. Except the possibility of me going to jail for selling my aderrall

>>740247945
>You highly over-simplified the argument. Care explaining why

I gave a few examples of the arguments used in this thread, and explained the fallacies used in their logic. Please tell me where I was wrong, or suggest a reason that I didn't list.

>>740247983
Once in a blue moon, we'll get good thread to discuss things. ie, /feels/ or /comfy/ threads. Kinda like a lil support group you know?

>>740241633
Oatmeal

>>740248165
I just go to those threads for laughs tbh. My Life's not that sad I guess but you've got a point some stuff does come along that isn't pure filth

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>>740241633
Chromosome owl

>>740241633
Fighting werewolf

>>740248057
Antisocial behavior, refusal to partake in activities typical for the species (i.e. hunting, mating), and behavior not typical of said species

>>740241633
Wept hazard

>>740248257
>/feels/
>to laugh
at least you're happy, so i'm not complaining :)

but yeah you're right, sometimes it becomes "I had [1st world problem], pls gib (You)s" and I just abandon thread.

>>740248031
>. The conclusion that evolution is therefore 'good', or that our 'purpose' is to pass on genes is a fallacy.
No one ever claimed it is 'good', nor that evolution has a purpose removed from our perception of it. It is a process that abides by certain mechanics (i.e. natural selection).
>Genetics doesn't mean the purpose of life is to pass on genes
Again no one claimed that. He claimed the purpose of life (colloqially meaning living creatures) is to pass on their genetic material, or in some instances the genetic material of their clan (as you allude to referencing Dawkins).

>>740241633
Guideline planetary

>>740241633
Snail key

>>740241633
Fluid ambition

>>740248031
>t. Cuck philosophy major who has only a surface level understanding of evolution

>>740241633
homosexuality benefits populations with increased reproduction and males who stay home and care for/protect offspring.

>>740241633
Gland reptile

>>740248504
Exactly. I laugh at people who think their problems are large in the grand scheme of things when in reality they're minute issues. I find it funny that someone can be so upset by a minor inconvenience and expect comfort on an image board.

>>740241633
Honey wonder

>>740241633
Fortress dozen

>>740241633
When you´re aware that you´ve got shit genetics you don´t reproduce

>>740248636
actually he clearly understands it wayyyyyyy above the level of yourself, a young teen who actually wrote "t. cuck" and thought it was worth sending

in the days when this website wasn't garbage, you'd have been chased away to go mingle with low-iq sorts like yourself.

>>740248523

This poster refers to purpose.
>>740243060
Said "the whole purpose of life, strictly speaking, is to pass down your genes to the next generation".

And here: >>740244499
And here: >>740245945 (he also thinks lobsters 'decided to have claws')

>>740248523
.He claimed the purpose of life (colloqially meaning living creatures) is to pass on their genetic material, or in some instances the genetic material of their clan (as you allude to referencing Dawkins).

But that's not provable. What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

>>740241633
Planetary fracture

>>740248648
>Homosexuality benefits populations with increased reproduction
Do you know what homosexual means anon?

>>740241633
because homosexuality alone doesn't cause suffering and/or a poor ability to function in life, by virtually any measure you can quantify

>>740241633
Dense ghoulish

>>740248797
Neither does ADHD

>>740241633
Criminal pillbox

>>740248813
STOP FUCKING POSTING FAGGOT

>>740248854
CONTRIBUTE TO THREAD OR STOP POSTING

>>740248760
He clearly does not understand it as he didn't address any of the points the other anons made. All he kept saying was "nuh uh! X cannot have purpose!", despite no one claiming otherwise.

>>740241633
Dry smallpox

It is. Bisexuality and transexuality too. I don't care though, I have it

>>740241633
Bludgeon despair

>>740248780
Do you know what genes mean, anon? Do you know what populations mean, anon?

No, you don't, I don't even have to bother asking

>>740248668
Still remember getting my ass handed to me when I told an anon "Hey, he can be sad as much as he likes!" Boom, he goes off saying that the thread's not a bubble and I need to change the way I handle these stuff. Woke me up, man.

>>740248829
ADHD by definition affects a persons ability to function. the reason it requires treatment is because of its causing a worsened ability to function

>>740248924
But people were claiming otherwise, you dense moron.

>>740248958
Never seen a tranny lion anon. Having trouble believing it

>>740248636
>Surface level of understanding
>Cites Selfish Gene and understands what it means

Pick one and only one

>>740248780
Do you know what population means anon?

>>740241633
Homosexuality appears to commonly found on other species meaning that it is completely natural and not abnormal.

>>740241633
Apparently kitten

>>740241633
Condemned battery

>>740248767
>This poster refers to purpose
In the context of his post it clearly means the purpose of any given creature from an evolutionary standpoint, you pedantic faggot.

>>740248924
>Despite no one claiming otherwise

Aaaaannd here's a list of anons claiming otherwise.
>>740248767

>>740248776
Except we have volumes of evidence to support it.

>>740241633
Chapterhouse accessories

>>740241633
Ink bomb

>>740241633
Footwork first

>>740249158
And that is exactly what is wrong. Anon as an individual may ascribe to passing your genes as the end goal, but others may not and it's certainly not intrinsic in evolution so saying "from an evolutionary standpoint" is meaningless.

>>740241633
Discipline cardinal

>>740248997
>ADHD
>Sell all my addy
Perfectly fine and well adjusted. Kids just use ADHD as an excuse to be lazy fags. It's honestly not hard to live with if you have something else to do like tap your feet or a table. My vice is tapping the hell out of my foot and cracking my knuckles

>>740241633
Dial candy

>>740248462
But to call that autism is kind of extreme, no?

>>740241633
Absence visitor

>>740249334
>my problems aren't that bad so everyone else should just suck it up even though I have no idea how bad their problems are.

>>740241633
Captivity authentic

>>740249047
Did you realize I only referred to the reproduction part? I understand that homosexual animals raise young and strengthen the population. But they do not reproduce. Reproduction can only happen between a male and female in most cases of animals

>>740241633
Decoder port

If pedofilia is a mental disorder then so is homosexuality!

>>740241633
Galloping probe

>>740249489
Pedophilia isn't a mental disorder, dipshit.

>>740249334
>not hard to live with if you have something else to do

even by pointing out that its not hard to cope with (for you), you still in doing that admit that its something that has to be dealt with, its an issue that if you dont address it, it will impair your ability to function in some way. making it a disorder.

>>740249211
Read the thread carefully. Evolution works due to genetics. This doesn't mean genetics or evolution have a "goal". The argument is there's no evidence whatsoever for a 'goal'.

>>740249301
The gravity example I gave earlier seems to be ignored by these guys. I wonder why.

"From a Newtonian standpoint the goal of people is to be attracted to objects with large mass"

>>740241633
Cynical chunk

>>740249364
That's exactly what most autism is. Not all autistic kids have behavioral outbursts. My cousin has autism and just doesn't fucking talk to anyone a good 90% of the time. He doesn't play with other kids. That's autism. Just not the type you think about where they throw fits on the floor and talk in a retard voice

>>740241633
Felt gravel

>>740249030
We've observed feminine traits and behaviour in several animals, including lions. I wrote part of my PhD in zoology on psychological alterations in animals, studying amongst other thing, transsexualism and homosexualism in animals

>>740243384
It doesn't meet #1, doesn't meet #3, and only meets number 2 in the same respect that heterosexuality also does.

So, there goes your entire thread.

>>740241633
Moth grinning

Because

>>740247913
Having children isn't a quality of life? Since when?

>>740249408
Yeah man because 100% of everyone in /feels/ threads has a valid reason to be in feels. There's never anyone who goes and bitches and moans about minute shit that's really not a big deal in their lives. You've definitely been in a lot them

>>740241633
Grain ugly

>>740248031
And don't forget to tip your fedora

Some penguin cultures have homosexual couples that take care of the children abandoned by heterosexual couples. While it isn't "normal" per say, it does have a function in some animal societies including humans and our adoption of children.

>>740249489 >>740249551
Alright kiddie diddlers settle the fuck down

>>740248031
>t. I read a popular science book and I know everything about biology now

>>740249562
It is a disorder. Hence the fucking D in the acronym. It doesn't impair me really

>>740249720
this is literally the exact opposite of how evolution is supposed to work

>>740241633
because animals eat the weak and or worthless children, but for some reason homosexuality thrives in every part of the animal kingdom except humans.

>>740249668
If you have no goals of having children, or there are available substitutes (like adoption), then there's no decrease in the quality of life is there?

Failed...

My nephew is 25 and he has been gay his whole entire life ive watched him grow up and he has always been a lil fag he played with dolls and just generally acted like a woman now hes open and gay but he was born that way

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>>740241633
Hello my name is Drew Pickles and I am the biggest homosexual in all of the universe with a 300 mile long cock. I am the text book definition of a sick fuck. I enjoy going to shitty establishments and causing my homosexual shenanigans where I rape every male in the asshole and taking their virginity. I enjoy shoving anything that I can use as a dildo up my ass and bag that is swell.

>>740243804
That penguin has a defective direction sensory organ above its beak, which is causing it to eliminate itself from the gene pool. It's not insane. Insane would be doing something not rational, such as knowing that, and forcing it to pretend it was just like all the other penguins, and forcing it to rejoin the flock, conform, reproduce, and spread that genetic defect throughout the entire species over generations, until no one can tell which direction to go and the entire population is made worse by it.

Or, exactly what we do in medicine, encouraging and enabling everyone with physical defects of all kinds to reproduce and corrupt the species.

>>740249914
You can be born with a mental disorder pal. Argue the point of the thread not about how your faggy nephew played with dolls

>>740249895
>homosexuality thrives in every part of the animal kingdom

citation needed

>>740249883
Evolution isn't supposed to "work" in any specific way that you personally feel it should.

>>740249781
If you think that evolution has a "will" then you haven't read anything.

>>740249883
Going to bother writing an explanation as to why?

>>740249697
Assuming much, eh? Just stating that you are in no position to judge someone else's mental problems just because you feel fine.

>>740241633
Fuck i fell in love with those eyes.

>>740241633

in sexually reproducing species which exhibit strong pro-social traits (dogs, dolphins, humans, apes), sexual gregariousness is common. bonobos fuck for fun, for food, for anything really. there seem to be no sexual hangups of any sort: same-sex, adult-child, whatever.

exclusive homosexuality is odd, but not a disorder. deal w/it

>>740249971
Bag its swell to be homosexual

>>740249971
KEK

>>740249578
The goal IS to pass on the genes, that's how it works, that's what we base our entire studying around, the basic desire to pass on your genes

>>740241633
homosexuality is natural and proven by science, transgenderism is a mental disorder (transgenderism is actually in the dsm)

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>>740249971
You're probably wonder that (hey why is Drew Pickles in this thread?) well, while I was lurking /b/ for some gay porn threads or rate my dick threads so I can tickle my twinkie to the sexy pictures of mens cocks, I found this puzzling thread and decided to jump right in. I hope that you all don't mind

lesbian porn

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>>740250690
Now we're getting somewhere! And I like where this is going!

>>740250442
wut?

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>>740241633
Over the long view of history, most mammals, lacking defenses, found their survivability relying on their species ability to out-reproduce catastrophe. The horniest win.

If I take a species that has a narrower distribution of horniness, vs the same species with a wider set, the wider one is more robust over time.

tl:dr.: a species whose individuals spread out to the extreme ends on the sexuality spectrum to the point of including bisexuality, even if it distributes some quantity of individuals into non-reproductive sexuality, will have more sex and outbreed a species that has more conditions on sexual behavior.

TL;DR again: a species that is so horny that it's survival has depended on it, is one that also produces bisexuals, fags, and asexuals as a result.

Luckily for us, the disproportionately high level of intelligence, creativity, and abstract reasoning distributed among them produces either suicides or a continual supply of most of our quality designers, architects, and innovators, keeping our culture from resembling the atrocious style-devoid mess of Britain and Russia, where fags were not utilized but exterminated.

It's fuckin stupid how often people seem to pick and choose what's 'natural' based off of what they seem acceptable or not.

So what if homos exist happily?
>Hurr Durr it's not natural it's an illness muh evolutionary standpoint

Vaccinations sure as shit aren't natural either. Neither are milkshakes or condoms.
We're not retarded cavemen monkeys anymore, we have the intelligence and infrastructure to do pretty much whatever the fuck we want.
We need less people making babies, not more.

And biology isn't intelligent, there's no plan or meaning or anything.
Who. Gives. A. Fuck.

If you look at it as being a mental disorder because it can't result in reproduction then the use of contraceptives and the choice to never have kids is also a mental disorder.

>>740241633
it's more of a political instrument than a mental disorder, it's porpuse is gather attention from the masses, serve as a distraction or in 4chin terms, b8

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>>740252033
Yeah the amount of overachievers that are gay is odd, considering it's an even greater percentage than jews, while lacking the cultural cohesion and exceptionalism mythology that jews have traditionally ascribed to their success.

Jews have a 5000 year old tradition of demanding excellence of each other and staying on top of the game and protecting their divine bloodlines. All fags have had is a history of hiding their faggitry, keeping their head down, and being really good at their shit on their own.

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>>740252627
Then it is also a mental disorder for a girl to ovulate and not be pregnant. Just think if it, 4 billion women, flushing unborn babies down the drain once a month, every month... it's a sin against god and society. The human population needs to grow by billions per month, doubling every 3-4 months or it's mental disorder.

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>>740253162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vBlK-OXgzM

>>740245723
>apes are bi
>people like getting off, same sex or not
>therrfore everyone is bi
Nice jump to conclusions. Sexuality is based on who you enjoy having sex with and who you WANT to have sex with. Jacking off with a friend when you're 15 and confused does not make you bi.

>>740253436
lol
Whatever gets you through the night anon.

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>>740253436

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJbYRZm5WLE>

>>740241633
Because you seem pretty reasonable

ITT queers defend their mental illness

>>740241633
Cock is life

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>>740254435
Now listen here, you piece of shit. I will show you the true definition of a sick fuck as I rape you in your tight little virgin asshole.

>>740241633
Mental disorders are harmful and cause worse quality of life. Homosexuality doesn't unless someone else makes it harder for them

>>740254701
Except for that whole "Not passing on your genes" thing...

Because that's not harmful and at odds with the entirety of evolution at all...

>>740243060
Humans (and dolphins ans primates) are meant to have sex of pleasure as well as for reproduction. And guess what, the those solphins and primates also have sex with the same sex

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>Tfw its been longer than 10 seconds and no on has proved a point

>>740254907
>Because that's not harmful and at odds with the entirety of evolution at all...
It's not. The history of evolution is mainly about organisms not passing on their genes.

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>>740254916
I enjoy fucking dolphins and primates, I love shoving my 300 mile long cock into the dolphins blow hole and let it shove its long nose up my ass. I also love when primates peel my banana with their feet

>>740241633
It's not. It is a sin

>>740241787
more of a dominance thing in nature you fucking retard, to animals their main goal is to reproduce not be fucking fags, even outside of that they just want something to fuck, nothing with being "gay", try again, faggot

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>>740243060
Perfectly put, it's the base 'argument' against homosexuality and pretty much all that needs to be said.
Way to kill off that family blood line that's taken hundreds of thousands of years and unknown hardship and suffering to get you here....

>>740246816
>undergraduate zoology major
>actual biologist
Pick exactly one.

>>740255162
Not that anon, but i wanted to bring up that the homosexual lifestyle is extremely unhealthy because of STDs and etc. and the average projected lifespan of homosexual men is like 35.
>not harmful

>>740255393
This.

>>740255601
>the average projected lifespan of homosexual men is like 35
I'm sorry to hear that you only have about 3 years left.

>>740255546
it doesnt take musch to stick it in and run away. women usually take care of the rest

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>>740255267
>It's not. It is a sin

>bringing relegion itt

>>740246702
Of course there is a purpose anon. The purpose will be revealed when we get there...

>>740248031
Of course it's THE aim you dumbass, all other aspects of living are peripheral and subordinate to it. Life's purpose and incredible drive is stunning

This thread is still alive? Holy shit, how off-topic did everyone get?

>>740241633
>2017
>giving a fuck where people stick their dicks

>>740257578
>Holy shit, how off-topic did everyone get?
No more than usual.

>>740256982
The only thing stunning is your incredible stupidity.

>>740241633
It is, but it's not dangerous so who cares? Faggots in the closet care.

female and male are the same except for hormones and the genitals.
You can be born male with a lot of estrogen in your bodys, in your mind maybe you will think you are male because you have a cock, your hormones will make you think twice, etc. We are really mixed, very broken.

>>740255601
Straight people can get stds too you retard

>>740256058
Still, it's a sin. I'm 6'9, 380 pounds with a bad attitude. I don't kill because it is wrong. I don't rape because it is wrong. I don't fuck men because it is wrong. My mind makes decisions. Faggoty is a sin.