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>Trump makes a good change of preventing trans people joining

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>Trump makes a good change of preventing trans people joining the army.
>LGBT people and left hates this change
Why American people are so fucking retarded?
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>>740166164
maybe because theres people like you who cant spell.

and yes i agree, trump is a retard
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>>740166260
But who needs trans people in army?
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When Americans think "Trump done this", but it is the people pulling the puppet strings who did it, and it was done to appease the masses of hypocrite southern Christians.
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>>740166164
>Trump is president
>Liberal snowflakes are shitting themselves in anger (:
>Trannies are no longer allowed in military

mfw
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>>740166394
> if its bad, trump did it
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>>740166164
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>>740166350
doesnt america want as many people in the military as possible? retards
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>>740166164
Why the fuck would you even want to join the army in the first place ?
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>>740166629
To fight for my country?
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>>740166164
>Why American people are so fucking retarded?
Whoa.. That's the left, don't tar all Americans with the same brush
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There is no reason to fucking have trans or even women in military.
Only very small minority can keep with real men. Most are fucking crying bitches and require special treatment. Those should be either fucked off from the military or thrown on the front lines to be a fucking decoy.
Trump did all trans people a favor and yet they all hate it.
Hope they all will fucking jump off a bridge.
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>>740166394
>B-but Trump's different! 4D chess! Deep State! Fake newsl But benghazi!
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>>740166627
uhh, no? We don't.
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>>740166627
No, no we dont. That is the opposite goal of a professional standing military.
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>>740166745
swallow your pride, starting shit with china and now the middle east? you guys are really fucked now
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>>740166697
This. Proven at the last election. Hillary lost because the American people who love America voted for Trump whereas the only people who voted for Hillary where illegals and left wing retards.
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>>740166164
Didn't they not support the military anyway?
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>>740166688
To die for a piece of land where you just happened to be born ?
Patriotism is bullshit
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>>740166394
It was done to appease the military who have had a hell of a time dealing with the repeal of Dont Ask Dont Tell.
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>>740166846
so if you find someone who would make a good soldier but is trans, you wouldnt accept them? youre a retard, thats like denying a black scientist for being a nigger
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>>740166976
Edgy.
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>>740166726
I smell butthurt (:
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>>740166965
No trannies have been using the military to basically get free transition surgery and lifetime health benefits without every actually serving a day of active duty
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If they can pass and serve in the military why the fuck can't they do that? BTW Trump said "in any capacity" which fucking means that anyone in the military can say they're transgender and be booted out.
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>let trans people in army
>put them on the frontline
>they die
>?????????
>profit
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>>740166999
This is why trans don't belong in the military.
Read.
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>>740167086
My friend did active duty for the marines. She's trans. Stop painting everyone as black and white.
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>>740167051
That's the only reason I come into these threads is to collect salt for anons to laugh at. The next eight years are going to be fucking great
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>>740166629
To keep muslims in their place in the ME
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>>740167116
because of gender dysphoria? and according to your logic, theres no crazy straight people? i dont understand, youd take a bad straight soldier over a good trans soldier?
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>>740166999
People that need constant medical care, daily procedures, and have a hell of a time with hygiene arent exactly your ideal front line soldier. In a country of 330+ million there is no shortage of mentally stable candidates who can perform better, with less costs involved, and arent a wet blanket for everyone around them
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>>740167086
Everybody's been using the military as a free college ride for decades. It's even a selling point they forcefeed children with. How is the promise of free healthcare it any different from a bunch of illiterate retards getting a free ride on the educational system?
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>>740167252
Everything is black and white to them. All trannies are insane nutjobs who do degenerate shit and all right wingers are good and righteous paladins it's bullshit.
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>>740167180
Yay...1 of 15,500.
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>>740167252
> and according to your logic, theres no crazy straight people?
Never said that.
Slow down, take a breath and stop having a purely emotional response and lashing out at someone that has an opinion differing from yours.

>youd take a bad straight soldier over a good trans soldier?
The straight soldier doesn't keel over in pain from dilation and become a ripe target for a sniper.
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>>740166999
Why would you ever take a trans person that needs special treatment everyday because they are basically mutilated people instead of perfectly healthy male in army?
Your feefees and being offended doesn't make you relevant on the field.
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>>740167096
You dont seem to understand what transgender means... at all.

No one is kicking homosexuals out of the military.
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>>740167484
>No one is kicking homosexuals out of the military.
There's be no military if they did that. Lewl.
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>>740167305
i feel like itd be more efficient to go through the same training "normal people"go through, if they make a good soldier then keep them, if they arent qualified, rule them out. but ruling them out simply for not being satisfied with their gender is really fucking dumb
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>>740167584
this. then again /b/ is slowly becoming /pol/
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>>740167484
I do understand what it means retard. It means a person with gender dysphoria.
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>>740166697
this isnt relevant to the thread but i actually haven't seen anyone who thought of top-middle woman as black.

otherwise yeah this makes sense
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>>740167345
Because the healthcare for everyone else ends shortly after you separate from the service aside from a few circumstances.

Trannies get free surgery, then are put on inactive duty while they health (up to 2 years) and because the surgery was done during active duty, any condition arising from that surgery, for the lifetime of the person, must be covered.
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Regardless of whatever meme view you have on transgender people in the military, this is a solution searching for a problem. This is bottom tier shit that has no real implications besides pandering to his base.
It's a distraction, and between that and the God thing it means that he's distracting from the healthcare vote - or that something particularly damning is coming out soon. You'll notice an obvious trend between his more bombastic tweets and bad news from the pending investigation.

This entire useless debate that the distraction creates is the entire point. Most mainstream outlets have caught on.
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>>740167733
It means a male to female, or female to male transgender who has gone through gender reassignment surgery.

>>740167535
And yet up until 6 years ago being openly homosexual was an instant dishonorable discharge.
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>>740167116

Where the fuck are the pics of the ground meat he keeps between his legs now?
All brick, no pic.
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When will Americans understand that their shitty government got all greedy in the 80s and caused Islamic Extremism to target the west.

In fact most Americans don't even know the true story about it, because nobody teaches it, because if they were taught the actions taken they would no longer be the easy to control sheep that they are.

When they paid $1 trillion in arms, ammo, money to Saddam to Invade Iran to remove the new power shift there to reinstate the old Shah so they can get their cheap oil again, they actually thought it would work, but it didn't it failed miserably and then every Terrorist attack since then on the west has been the result of America trying to control shit they couldn't control.

Now of course the die hard American window lickers will dismiss what I said, because it would be sad for them to find out their country isn't so amazing, and that all those people who died on American soil due to terrorism is because of their government they adore. So they will never go look to see the truth.

But then again why do the hard work of understanding when believing lies and propaganda is so much easier.

Hence why their country is near financial ruin and they think they are rolling in money. It is laughable.
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>>740167195
heh, same here
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>>740167879
>Because the healthcare for everyone else ends shortly after you separate
What if I want a career in the military, another dumb selling point to indoctrinate kids into joining?

Would I be cheating the system by effectively becoming a parasite living off the average American? You should realize you're getting fucked from all fronts, and trans people have little to no pull in that.
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>>740167584
The very fact they need constant medical care, have very special needs that must be attended to, etc right off the bat make them a liability. The same situation minus the sexual proclivities would mean you would never even get a recruiter to sign off on your contract. Hell, wearing glasses requires a military waiver for enlistment. So do flat feet. You are only allowed 1 single waiver for enlistment. Flat feet and you wear glasses? You arent able to enlist. It might make you feel good to say "but let them try and be as good as anyone else" The problem is, if you look at it objectively, they would never be even close to "as good" as the high school drop out who wants to enlist
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>>740167862
She was the head of the NAACP... her entire employment was pretty much based on being black. She gave paid speeches on being African American
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>>740168393
not all trannies mutilate their parts, you fucking retard. do you know what trans means? it is being unhappy with your gender, that is literally it. yeah, SOME cut their dicks off or attach one to themselves, but some dont. and to rule out the ones who dont is stupid
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>>740168363
Da fawk? Way to go completely off topic and ramble
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>>740167180
I didnt god did
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>>740168613
And yet only gender reassigned people are effected by this... Maybe the LGBTQ+ community needs to add an extra letter somewhere.
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>>740168177
where'd you get the 1 trillion from?
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>>740168090
No retard many transgender did not go through gender reassignment surgery.
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>>740168782
Its copy pasta
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>>740168613
>not all trannies mutilate their parts, you fucking retard.
There are other problems with trannies.
Read. Again.
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>>740168845
See:
>>740168876
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>>740168845
Then they arent a tranny to the US military they are just a mentally ill homosexual
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>>740167354
You missed annons point, how about calm down and ask your mum for your tendies
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Well, now you get the results of having an education system for the rich and wealthy. Everyone who can't afford an education become stupid as fuck, resulting in voting for Trump.
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>>740168876
it all boils down with them being unhappy with their gender and having the military dismiss them as unable to function isnt helping them either.
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>>740166164
Liberals are faggots who cry about everything.

All we need is the Trump family to run things for the next 6 terms and we will successfully take over the world.

Vote Trump Jr for 2024.
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>>740169034
Depression and attempted suicide are automatically disqualifies you for military enlistment no matter who or what you are.
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>>740169006
yeah, and all smart fuckers can keep voting for the main stream poiticians
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>>740167584
Lol so are we kicking woman out or lowering standards now ?
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>>740169147
i mean you gotta be suicidal to some extent to go to war with sand niggers. and thats only 40%, thats not even the majority of them. also it was 6 years ago.

>the majority of school shooters are white so white people shouldnt be alowed to go to school.

you see how your logic plays out?
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>>740169034
>it all boils down with them being unhappy with their gender and having the military dismiss them as unable to function isnt helping them either.
Homosexuals have a suicide rate of approximately 26% before they reach the age of 30.
It's basically a coin flip by the time they're the age of 50.

You wanting it to be about prejudice isn't valid. If transgender people want to be treated normally, they should ACT normally. They should STOP throwing parades for themselves when normal people get none, they should STOP shoving their genitals in peoples' faces--including childrens, and they should STOP encouraging young people to undergo hormone therapy while THEY ARE STILL UNDERGOING PUBERTY.

You want ALL the problems to be laid at everyone else's feet, but the vast majority of the problems stem from a group of people who were raised improperly to realize it is mentally detrimental to play dress-up as an adult.

You want increased military spending? With transgenders you have it. Psychoanalysis, surgery, depression medication and the exponentially longer offtime non-male military personnel get (see female military personnel). All these medical costs come from somewhere;l your tax dollars and mine. You are SWELLING military spending by allowing transgenders in the military.
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>>740168876
Thats due to their families rejecting them or not accepting them. In other study only 4% are depressed or committed suicide while their families and society support them.
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The mainstream media are blowing a gasket over this......LOL.......fags.
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>>740168613
Why are you so angry ?
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>>740169355
>implying all trannies are libtards
you gotta wake up and stop watching so many *FEMINIST GETS REKT* videos.
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>>740169368
see:
>>740169355

The problem is not us. The problem is YOU. You're CREATING problems, not solving them.

You create problems.
You create misanthropy.
You disrupt society.
You raise medical costs.
You take people to court needlessly for "discrimination".

YOU. CREATE. PROBLEMS.

You. Are. The. Problem.


If ANY single transgender person thinks they are without fault in regards to perceived behavior towards them, they are LYING TO THEMSELVES.

Just like this person did. And now he/she has to live with that mistake for the rest of his/her life:
>>740167116


You are monsters. Encouraging people to mutilate themselves with chemicals and surgery, to treat their ONE body like a fucking Mr. Potato Head.

FUCK OFF. No one asked for you here, NO ONE WANTS YOU HERE.
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>>740169355
Military Viagra/Cialis bill per year: $60 million.

Who's paying the bill for you being fucked up the ass by your dog as a child?
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>>740169368
So its society's fault, not theirs. Got it
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>Trump knows he's going to start a war
>gives people the opportunity to identify as transgender and get out of it

At least he knows not everyone wants to fight.
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>>740167027
Stupid.
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>>740169601
>Who's paying the bill for you being fucked up the ass by your dog as a child?
Childish personal insults.
Excellent retort.
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>>740169582
Why the fuck do we spend so much more on Viagra for faggots with limp dicks?
Fuck off my /b/.
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>>740169144
Lol i would have never have taken this semi seriously before last year
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>>740169674
Because faggots can turn straight and procreate.
A transsexual with a mutilated cock can't have children and can't find the time to raise one between dilations.
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>>740166164
Why is OP so retarded. There are trans people in the military now, and until today, they were doing just fine.

How about we focus on fucking terrorists instead of whether somebody has a dick or not.

This shit is absolutely retarded, and so are you OP.

I really hope you're trolling, because you'd be a bigger piece of shit if you actually believe your own nonsense.

And just so you know, I'm a straight white dude. I'm just not a heartless sociopath, so I am about to understand how fucked up this is for people whose lives it'll affect.

tl;dr op is a massive faggot
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>>740169612
It's the niggers' fault for getting hanged.
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>>740169205
Any clever person would have realised from the start that Trump and Clinton are two cheeks of the same arse. Anybody with an ounce of common sense would have laughed off the idea of voting for either of them long before the election.
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>>740166164
Not fatmerican so don't give a fuck but keep at it boys, I hope you get wiped out of existence in a civil war
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>>740169750
So sterile men and women can't serve in the military? Great logic you got there.
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>>740169797
<<< consider the following
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>>740169345
No 4o% is a grossly high number, also if 4o% of white people shoot up schools there would be crack downs.
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>>740167027
Are you actually retarded? You don't choose where you are born so why stand for it if you hate it?
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>>740169797
>op is a massive faggot
can't argue with that
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>>740169799
It IS. He shouldnt have been where he was unwelcome
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>>740166164
i honestly find it funny that the left is having an autism attack over this when most trans people wouldn't even join the service in the first place
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>>740169582
Society wouldn't be disrupted if people worried about their own business rather than trying to run everybody's lives.

Have some empathy. Not everything is ALL ABOUT ME.
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>>740169917
Why stay somewhere you hate? You are perfectly free to leave at any time
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Trump did this to give his supporters something to chew on so while he takes a vacation for most of the month of august. Makes them think they accomplished something for once in their sad, shallow lives.
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>>740166164
They want it to be don't ask don't tell even though they say they are barring transgender. They don't want people enlisting WHILE they are transitioning. They don't want to have to pay for the surgeries and the related care that comes with it. They don't want to sideline these people the few months they will need off to recover from the surgery. If you go in a man, you stay a man until you're out. Same for a Woman.
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We need to raise the age of adulthood to 21. Which includes military service.

If they are not old enough to make the decision to drink they shouldn't be considered an adult.
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>>740166976
>Patriotism is bullshit
you are more than welcome to live in Russia if you don't like where you end up to be born faggot
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>>740169368
So the average tranny requires society to support them so they dont kill themselves? You know how bad that sounds right
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>>740166164
>females being drafted
>males being drafted
>trannies get a pass

When we all get drafted to go to war with NK and the only people left to run society are the trannies I hope you guys remember how worried you were about trans people serving
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>>740170094
Not as easy as that though is it you smeghead? Ever heard of a thing called money?
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>>740167445
What is the downside to having trans people though? I'm quite neutral and I'm trying to figure out my stance on it.
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>>740170020
Society wouldn't be disrupted if people worried about their own business rather than trying to run everybody's lives.
You missed the part where transgenders are constantly shoving themselves into peoples' business, laws and faces all the time.

>Have some empathy. Not everything is ALL ABOUT ME.
I have empathy for people who have earned it. Not for people who demand it at gunpoint or the threat of a lawsuit.

What you want is forced empathy. Also known as a mandate. That's FASCISM.
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>>740170094
I did leave that's why I said that
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>>740170140
Why not just lower the drinking age to 18 like it is everywhere else
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>>740170286
see, for starters:
>>740169907
>>740167116

The second post is what ALL M-to-F trannsexuals go through. All of them. No one is exempt from dilation sessions, an after-effect of the surgical modification of the genitalia.
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>>740170129
>the few months they will need off to recover from the surgery

Except it is closer to 2 years, and with some MOS's taking a year of training combined with the transition makes them unable to perform most military jobs... what you get is a year of training, surgery, 2 years on inactive duty, year of training for new MOS, and enlistment is finished, time to go home
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>>740170289
You realize its the people who hate trannies who threaten people at gunpoint over their personal choices, right?
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>>740170348
They're wrong and americas right, of course
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>>740169799
Se no problem here
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>>740166627
no ... cos increasing numbers of people dont increase military potential much... look at china
also i bet 90% of those soft lgbt leafs would have finger frost (unable to shoot cos of psyhology) if they would aim at real person ... even bad ass manly studs at ww2 had problems with this even if you think you can shoot a person your acuracy might have be subconsciously lowered by half
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>>740170217
You do realize that children with unsupporting parents get depressed and sometimes commit suicide? Remember the movie "The Dead Poet's Society"?
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>>740170264
Whats your point? You cant scrap together enough money for a plane ticket or a moving truck? Do you know how worthless that makes you sound?
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>>740169872
You missed the point he was making but doesn't mean its a free pass to be retarded.
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>>740166350
the real question is: why do trump hate non-trans men so much that he wants to see them killed, while he does everything he can to protect the lives of trans people? is he trans himself?
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It is a universal truth - Americans are incredibly retarded. Every damn one of them.
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>>740166976
the edge
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i hate him because he's not doing any of the shit he said he would, just cause he's too stupid to keep his mouth shut. He needs to seriously stop talking about Russia all the fucking time - innocent or not, he's acting guilty, which means this won't ever go away. I want him to shut up, make Mexico pay for the wall (he's taken a softer stance on this saying the US will pay and Mexico will pay us back = bullshit), a real Muslim ban (not the half-assed shit he's managed to get past the judges), keep us out of foreign bullshit (like Syria when he dropped bombs), and fix healthcare (not the bullshit that is happening now).
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>>740170572
There are thousands of transgender people serving in the military. They are more than capable.
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>>740170508
Do you think that without this regulation that the army would just start carting trannies to our front lines straight from LA? Trannies still have to go through boot camp, still have to meet requirements to be infrantry, etc

ITT: armchair generals
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>>740166164
The cuck left doesn't want us killing peace loving muslims , think about it

>genital mutilators have a higher chance of depression and susyside ,
> men ruin they're superiority by injecting estrogen
> women , already a terrible group of combatants need attention , comfort foods
Unstable army = more muslims
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>>740170543
I don't give a rat's arse how worthless it makes me sound. There a fuck load more to immigrating somewhere than having the money to buy a plane ticket there.
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>>740170543
This brings up an interesting point. What if the US did like Norway, and will provide free transportation to anywhere in the world for any citizen who wishes to leave and renounce their citizenship?

Id support the fuck out of that. Maybe Canada or Sweden will give them political asylum?
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>>740166164

Great another thing that Trump fucked up.
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Military service should be mandatory EXCEPT to those currently denied service rights, like trannies and the disabled.
90% of the people who signed up would fail out of basic, but might get some god damn basic life skills out of it.

The amount of kids I met in boot camp who lacked basic life skills was staggering. like 50/50 on people knowing how to shave. Then saying they CANT shave because they don't know how.
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>>740170704
You're way off, it is more like a few hundred if that.
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>>740170704
Not according to their commanders, who are the ones who recommended this entire thing
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>>740166164
>You missed the part where transgenders are constantly shoving themselves into peoples' business, laws and faces all the time.
Boohoohoo they want to be treated like humans with the same rights. This hurts your tender feelings.

>I have empathy for people who have earned it. Not for people who demand it at gunpoint or the threat of a lawsuit.
Please link us to all of these cases of transgender people demanding equal rights at gunpoint.

>What you want is forced empathy. Also known as a mandate. That's FASCISM.
Yeah no that's just retarded. You don't have to be empathetic to let people do what they want.
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>>740170215
Lol Russia>America
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>>740170752
Yea...like applying for a visa

FFS people immigrate every day all over the world. Some of them from countries where 5 cents a day is a decent wage. You have zero reason to not leave if you actually want to
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>>740170511
Yeah, also know it isnt 40%
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>>740170813
If true then this is a nothingburger.
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>>740170813
There were 15,500 trannies in the US Military in 2014. Most of them had GRS at the expense of the DoD
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>>740170215
mass media brain washing mashine working well i see
the only think that is different betwen you and a rushian guy is language you use (yea language we use shape people but that does not mean you should give your live to some nation=other people) fighting in wars is OBEYING the jews
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>>740167180
>she
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>>740170691
kek you really voted for him because you actually believed what he said, not because you hate hillary. SAD
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>>740166616
This meme is great because you can change a few word and make it about liberals as well. We both know liberals and republicans are just as retarded . Satan is the true leader. Now suck my cock for Satan, you retarded political faggot
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>>740170981
How about buying a home in the country. Applying for a job. Learning the local language maybe, or should I just demand everyone speak English on my behalf?

Anyway, why do I have to leave? How about you fuck off instead? Or maybe you can convince me of how I'm somehow less worthy of being in the country than you are.
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>>740170753
America would be permanently reblitards and canada perma libcuck
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>>740167957
>seems to hate establishment.
>hates anti establishment candidate that was shocked he even won.
>says they trust main stream media that supports the establishment.

you are a walking contradiction and need to reflect on your views.
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>>740171083
Most people in the US military are using it purely for fiscal reasons.
School
Debt
Medical
Child support
Hell the number of people I have seen spend 0 time outside of training is staggering. Signed a 5 year contract and spent all 5 of it training to do a job. The minute they get all the training they leave the army and sign on as a contractor making 6x as much as they did IN the army.
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>>740167232
you do realize muslim is a religion not a race ... right? LMFAO you sound like a broken nigger
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>>740167116

OK... so one person has gender dysphoria and that ruins it for all?

Should we get rid of all white people for any school shootings done by a white guy?
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>>740170627
And yet we're still smarter, stronger, and richer than you.
Fucking cuck
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>>740166164
Might be wrong but didn't that one navy seal who killed osama bin laden become a girl?
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>>740166164
we're trying to discourage this whole trans thing.
It doesn't seem healthy for society to embrace.
There will always be trans people, but I don't think society is currently in a position where it should be treated as a medal of honor. It does not need to be treated with dissidence either, but we must speak our minds. Rewarding this behavior is unhealthy.

Here is why:

Rewards create incentives, and incentives drive growth. Groups should not receive special rights or privileges based on identity.

Now you may say, the military is going to give "non-trans" people privileges, the privilege of joining the military and fighting for your country.

I don't believe the military embraces ANY identity. You give up your identity when you join the military. You are a soldier, who you are does not matter. Your obedience matters, and your good judgement matters.

Your gender does not make you special. Your race does not make you special. Your ability to lead, to follow, to coexist. Those are qualities that should be rewarded. Your dedication, your diligence, your virtues, your respect for your fellow human beings.

But wait, you say. Respect for human beings? Shouldn't you respect trans people as well? They are also human beings!

Respect is not the act of giving people what they want. Respect is treating them with civility while still telling them "No."

The world will be full of "No's." You won't always get what you want, or get your way. And if you can't handle that, there is no place for you in the military.
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>>740166164
Dumb fuck doesn't even know which one he shouldn't try to grab by the pussy.
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>>740171476
You are none of those things. You are delusional
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>>740171639
It's a moot point - neither of them would let him
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>>740171639
lol... when he said "grab them by the pussy" he was referring to an EXAMPLE THAT YOU COULD DO TO THESE FUCKING GROUPIES omg... GROUPIES EVEN RAPPERS KNOW THAT GROUPIES ARE DOWN TO DO ANYTHING!!!! LMFAO
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>>740166164
>Good change

I don't see how getting rid of 15,000 soldiers simply for their gender is possibly a good thing.
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>>740171436

Ex-Jew here that is not the same anon. Can you please tell the other national socialists the same thing about Jews? I left my religion and want nothing to do with any of them.
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Next step, trans people only allowed in camps
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>>740171326
Are you autistic?
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>>740166394
Your not allowed to all about people's religious views. Next you'll be talking about their skin color or their sexual preference. Oh wait! Your the hypocrite dumb fuck.
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>>740167051
They all used Epstein's services.
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>>740166688
Well keep your delusional gender confusion to yourself and you can.
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>>740166164
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Didn't this thread just get deleted? With the same responses?

The fuck?
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>>740171907
Clearly not
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>>740167116
You have to be seriously deluded to think bottom surgery is effective at all, we can't even restore foreskins. :(
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>>740171452
Kek why not kill alll black people for being criminals ? Or all muslims for being rapists ?
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>>740166718
Evidence? Otherwise your argument is invalid.
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>>740172222

Quints of truth, indeed, why not?
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>>740172222
time to go killing mudslimes and niggers
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>>740169368
Wrong, trannie suicide rates are the same in virtually every country, even the super duper tolerant ones.

Being a tranny is a mental illness that puts you at a high risk of suicide. Of course mentally ill suicidal people often try to blame others for their mental illness. Paranoid schizos blame the CIA. Trannies are no different.
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>>740172094
not a worthwhile discussion then, in your opinion.
must be bait, in your opinion. people not using their free will, people being coaxed, in your opinion. people not aware that this is not important, and shouldn't be discussed, in your opinion.

The notion that i'm REPLYING to your image OF BAIT to tell you that POSTING in a thread you CALL BAIT is just as bad as TAKING THE BAIT is blasting my brain into infinity.
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the army can't be filled with traps stop pushing for it
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>>740171845
Thats why your not a top military adviser i guess.
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>>740170759
well I'm guessing the only thing you can fuck is your life and maybe your parents with your autism
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>>740166627
he doesn't want left cucks going up to a terrorist and offering a pepsi that's why while yelling cant shoot my i have rights
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>>740172527
Then explain for me mighty military commander,
Explain why patriotic citizens cannot serve their country on the basis of their gender.
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>>740172165
Then why contradict yourself an ask questions you already answered yourself ? Or spaz out ?
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>>740170252
So do people with asthma, or joint issues, or kidney issues, or schizophrenia, or old people, or young people, or women, etc. Why should mentally ill trannies be the only group to get a special pass? I'm colorblind and not allowed to fly in the Air Force or be a sniper or a doctor, you don't see me bellyaching. Trannies can't accept they are mentally ill.
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>>740168177
>their shitty government got all greedy in the 80s and caused Islamic Extremism to target the west.
This cause and effect was identified by Robert Kaplan in 1996! Find his book The Ends of the Earth. Very disturbing that he is also an apologist for Henry Kissinger, but we must take our wisdom where we find it.
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>>740170411
lolwut? Last I checked it's the leftists who worship an unchecked marxist government.
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>>740167232
are those goats
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>>740172728
you have given the world a very bad example of what it means to be transgender.
"A few bad apples spoil the bunch, then?" You are the loudspeakers for the extremist gender-centric societies to which you belong. It is up to YOU to represent yourselves better.
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>>740169355
>Homosexuals have a suicide rate of approximately 26% before they reach the age of 30.
And you pulled that statistic out of Idi Amin Don-Don's ass, didn't you?
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>>740172829
I never said they should get a pass.. but there are transgender people who have their mental health managed much better than other people that are still allowed to serve (men with low t, depression).. i just dont think there is enough evidence that being transgender makes you mentally unfit to serve if we are allowing similar dysphoric disorders through.
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>>740172246
literally all of human history you fucking retard
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>>740172937
The government is right leaning atm and it always has been on a state level..
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>>740169355
Kek
Leftists are fuged
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>>740173133
This isnt specific evidence.

Another conservitard failure.
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>>740172728
M8 never said i was chill fam that attitude wont help you get trannies back into the army
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>>740173091
I'm not transgender.

But I believe everyone, if they pass the test should be able to serve their country.
So to discredit 15,000 people based on their gender and not skill is shameful and un-patriotic.
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>>740170861
Yeah, well, the difference between a sailor and blow-job is about a six-pack no matter what their commanders say.
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>>740166164

Only fools with romantic ideas of patriotism join the military.

The problem is, as every generation moves on, there are less 'fools' that believe in the American way of life is still viable then before.

Even if one thinks it's still viable, it may not be viable to you, despite your willingness to serve the country.

>Fight in a war
>Get injured or PSTD's
>Government cuts VA spending, relaxes gun control laws.
>Kill your family, and/or shoot up a neighborhood.
>Why fight for a country that won't fight for you?

...but people still think patriotism is good, and worth fighting for. Even from the he/shes out there who want a chance out there.

So why limit the potential recruiting pool, because of gender politics and identity?

It's really not a rhetorical question, since obviously Trump is such a meat-head; he wants the army to ooze machismo to enhance the show of force when we go to war with Russia, N.Korea, China, Mexico, Canada...etc... They don't want faggoty, gender-confused SJWs in their army, and their "feelings" to distract from their mission.
>Trump is a by-product of 1980s douche-baggery.

Personally, if trans people want to delude themselves in think patriotism is 'good' (in a country that hates them anyways), then go for it. Let's them reap what they sow.
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>>740166164
Why shouldn't trans people be able to go die for their country? if they can make it through basic let them, if not kick them like the rest.
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>>740173119
There are people with lots of problems that are under control medically but aren't allowed in the army. Why? Because of the risk. Why allow people with potentially major issues in when there's plenty of healthy recruits applying? I'm sure the army would allow colorblind pilots if we were the only people applying. Hell, there's not really great reasons for us not to be pilots, it's just they don't want to deal with the extra hassle.
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>>740173460
This.

It's unpatriotic to kick soldiers out simply because of their gender instead of their skill in combat.
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>>740173181
You actually think democrats are leftists? Lmao don't ever do politics again faggot.
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>>740173577
Well what if someone is transgender but doesn't experience dysphoria? Or are intersex? Should they also be barred?
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>>740173177
Your point? Trump is, for the most part, reducing federal power. Exactly the opposite of giving people with guns more power.
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>>740173209
He had a point, before we let woman in the army the only way a woman could be on the same level as a man in a combat situation was with divine intervention ( st joan of arc ).
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>>740166164
> be /b/, hate trans and LGBTQROTJV?S/§
> has at least 4 traps thread running continuously
you are all fucking faggot
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>>740166718
you act as if they wouldn't have to make it through basic in order to even become a problem, they would just get kicked out on reasonable grounds if they couldn't do the work just like everyone else.
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>>740173356
Thats what people said until woman couldn't pass and needed it lowered for them.
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>>740173626
Eh, it's decent shorthand. Most online dem supporters are leftists. Hillary only won because the DNC rigged it against the leftist marxists.
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>>740173952
*fucking closet faggot
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>>740168177
Window licking american here, fuck the ME, thanks for the cheap oil, cant wait to do it again :^)
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>>740174013
>>740173829

False. They take the same test.
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>>740173709
> What if someone has *insert major health issue* but they rarely experience the most common symptoms?

Intersex people are rare. Just like people born with only one arm. Tough luck, they have bigger problems in life than joining the military.
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>>740166164
People with mental illnesses should not be in the military and presumably armed.

I empathize with their troubles, just as I empathize with people who have PTSD, however I don't want people with PTSD in the military and wielding a gun.
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>>740172173
There does exist a penile prothesis that even straight men use. As for the prepuce, yeah, well, it's just a bit of skin.
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>>740173709
Then they arent transgender, having gender dysphoria is kind of why they transition.
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>>740166627
>people
>trans
pick one
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>>740167445
>The straight soldier doesn't keel over in pain from dilation and become a ripe target for a sniper.
Okay so you wouldnt take a bad trans soldier, got it. now answer the question.
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>>740174271
Yeah and it's about as real a foreskin as bottom surgery is. In other words, a faint shadow of the real thing.
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>>740167180
You shouldn't be proud of being a leech on society.

Just sayin'
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>>740166260
Nothing is spelled wrong...
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>>740174317
See
>>740174239
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Trans people arent allowed in military? Thats very freedom of Trump
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>>740174239
>this is America and we have no duty to protect the rights of the minority. Also we have to make regulations because muh feelings
Shit, man..
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You mad liberals?
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>>740174014
Obviously not. They're liberal centrists at a push. And by that a mean a massive push.

The majority of Dems are right leaning, end of story. I would say they're more authoritarian than republicans. But not leftists, not in a million years.
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>>740173440
>So why limit the potential recruiting pool, because of gender politics and identity?

Because you:

1) Don't want mentally unstable people in the army.
2) The surgery where they mutilate your genitals costs anywhere from 20k-50k (read 200k-500k since it's the government) per person.
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>>740167305
this makes so many assumptions of the costs of letting a trans person fight, if they got through basic training then they would be qualified for the job or removed for being a "wet blanket"
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>>740171436
Islam is a religion
Muslims are people who practice Islam
He never said Muslim was a race
He's using Muslims correctly as a placeholder for "person who practices Islam"
You're retarded
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>>740174306
I disagree. I think some people transition because they want to. They are given the option and they take it. I do agree that mentally unfit people shouldn't be given a pass because of their special protected class.. but i disagree with most of the people in this thread on how dysphoria or being transgender makes you unfit to serve
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>>740166718
bump
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>>740173709
Ignorant people can only see the world in terms of "us" and "them". They do not see the world as fifty shades of gay and they are mortally afraid that their own homosexual fantasies might ostracize them from the coveted "us" camp. The great enemy here is ignorance.
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>>740167879
that's bullshit though and they wouldn't approve the surgery while active duty, you're talking out of your ass.
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>>740173356
un-patriotic is quite a strong word to use. You have my attention, but let me explain more of what I feel.
I have experimented with cross-dressing, role-playing, and engaged with people who identify as trans or completely disengage with the idea of gender roles in any fashion. I find these people in my experience to be lacking in good judgement, and I see my own foray into this world as purely a vice. My life experience has made me inclined to side with the notion that the military environment is not one fit for people who cannot handle the bodies they were born with.

What do you expect people, who have sworn off the "trans" life, out of respect for their parents, their culture, and the desire to have a family, what do you expect us to do? Do you expect us to tolerate you? We will. Do you expect us to grant you privileges? We will not. Your culture is unhealthy and we do not have to embrace it. You have invaded our minds, preaching your words of "wisdom" and you have succeeded in convincing us that your ideals are not in the best interest of developing minds and children. Your force will not pursuade us, your threats will not pursuade us, your money. your money, will not pursuade us. You must begin to communicate as adults, and put off these childish things.

Then, we will talk.

>I'm not transgender
Well I made a conscious, healthy choice for the future of my life and family that I stand behind 100%, and neither am I.
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>>740174134
Not in my country lol we have 2 tests one for men and another for woman.
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>>740174340
Desperate times call for desperate measures.
http://www.proceso.com.mx/185634/la-famosa-ldquobombita-rdquo-de-andres-garcia
(Spoiler alert: gringos are going to squeal about the language.)
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>>740174533
>1) Don't want mentally unstable people in the army.

Yet, Billy-Bob redneck from the trailer park with enough IQ points to walk and breathe at the same time can join the military? Kind of a double-standard, isn't it?

>2) The surgery where they mutilate your genitals costs anywhere from 20k-50k (read 200k-500k since it's the government) per person.

Can't see why that has any bearing on joining the military, unless they expect the military to foot the bill for the surgery.
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>>740174383
MuriKKKan detected.
>La langue, c'est moi.
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>>740174682
Lol what, you can do that in america, your country is crazy lol.
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>>740168876
have you ever seen the numbers for people coming out of the military?
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>>740174533
>Don't want mentally unstable people in the army.
This bout sums it up. If you have a history of mental illness, you don't get in the army no matter your gender.

>>740175224
There's a difference between having a low IQ and having a depression/anxiety disorder like 90% of transgender people do.
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>>740170252

I have severe asthma because my mother was a chain-smoking idiot throughout my childhood and refused to stop smoking around me. I can't serve in the military and it's not my fault.

But it's not theirs either because the army needs to FUNCTION first and foremost and I would only cause problems being there. And that's understandable.

Trannies would cause problems that would mess up the equilibrium. Trannies can do anything else in the world. Don't fuck with our military.
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>>740174969
Unpatriotic is the correct term to use in this instance. It's not the "land of the free" when trans folks no longer have the right to serve in the army for their country.

As far as I'm concerned, the trans culture does more good than harm. Encouraging those who feel left out to embrace themselves fully has helped many to bravely step out and accept who they are. Your teachings would have them accept that they're a disease and have no place in the future.

I'm not transgender anon because I'm comfortable with my gender as it is. But if someone isn't, they should have the right and support to change it.
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>>740169147
yeah, so let them go to basic and if they make it through all the test then they can go because they will be qualified. if they can tmkae it through for whatever reason then kick them out of basic, or even before they get there, like everyone
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>>740174873
Are you an athiest ?
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>>740175483
Jack Reacher:
There are four types of people who join the military. For some, it's family trade. Others are patriots, eager to serve. Next you have those who just need a job. Than there's the kind who want the legal means of killing other people.
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these transfags literally and figuratively have bigger balls than you. They're willing to serve and protect their country. Then there's you, close minded shit lords posting anonymously online from the safety of mom's basement. Let the trunk people get married.
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>>740174383
Your grammar is atrocious.
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>>740175663
Not sure how that matters, but yes. The Abrahamic god is the most dangerous concept ever created.
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>>740166164

Why is the question? I'd want the 6'3" 200+lbs trans guy covering me.
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>>740175012
then you live in a retarded country that is not the united states and this thread is about the united states so fuck off.
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>>740166627
SHUT UP MOTHERFUCKER PIECE OF SHIT.

TRANS are SUBHUMANS.
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>>740175844
Incorrect.
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>>740166688
Lol, fag
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>>740175740
Forget it, Jake, this is MuriKKKa.
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I mean the military spends almost 10 times more on Viagra for male service members than what they would to pay for transgender healthcare. He made a choice but failed to give any solid reasoning to back it up, just like everything else he's ever said.
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>>740174390
this isnt even a response.
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>>740175947
Tailhook!
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>>740169355
>You want increased military spending?
at most 5-10 million
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>>740175637

They can serve in other ways. Tons of people are denied all the time for various reasons. Trans people who are complaining need to shut up because the military doesn't need more problems. They are picky about who they take in, and it's understandable. The ship needs to be run with as few kinks as possible. It's selfish for trans people to force themselves in and cause problem for the people around them.
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>>740175410
Embrace transhumanism you europoor monkey
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>>740175503
But they've already been serving.. just not openly
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You have to be mentally challanged to join the army. That also explains why trans get mad over this.
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>>740166697
Clearly with that post, you've already proven yourself wrong
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>>740175842
Lol you pay for our military protection and send your men to die so we dont need to. Whos country is retarded?
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>>740176089
The Europeans are doing that. The MuriKKKans have been resisting under the guise of anti-globalism.
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>>740176050
>Force themselves in

You mean pass the tests that everyone else takes and get cleared for entry?

They seem to be more of a benefit than a hindrance anon. 15,000 of them now without a job because of their gender. Not really "land of the free" now is it.
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>>740175483
>There's a difference between having a low IQ and having a depression/anxiety disorder like 90% of transgender people do.

Poor people can easily be exploited into joining the military, and tend to suffer from 'depression/anxiety disorders' as well.

>still double standard.
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>>740174134
no they don't
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>>740175947
Lol so if we get rid of all men and replace with trannies by your theory spending will decrease ?
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>>740173626
Democrats
Leftists
Who cares
You know what I mean
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I knew a trans dude/gal in the military. Was part of his private life. Always wore his uniform in order. Good dude all around and great voice at karaoke.

As long as they aren't cross dressin in uniform then who cares?

its like queers before they were allowed to openly serve.
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>>740176485
Yes, they do.
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