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>You know, >All you hear from liberals is RUSSIA RUSSIA

The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood.
Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact.

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>You know,
>All you hear from liberals is RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA
>And while Trump hasn't been proven to collude
>I was thinking Is that really a bad thing? (Not trolling here, being serious)
>I'm not even a trump supporter (voted Gary Johnson cause fuck the 2 party system RRREEEE).
>This whole situation kind of reminds me of Edward Snowden.
>In case you don't know, Edward Snowden exposed the NSA for spying on citizens like you and me (unconstitutional and I don't want anyone stalking me) but he did it (((((illegally))))).
>If Trump actually colluded with Russia, he STILL fucking prevent an actual proven criminal from getting into office (who colluded with Russia and Ukraine and sent classified emails)
>Not to mention that she defended a pedophile rapist by saying the 12 year "fantasized" about this (how evil)
My point is Trump may have done something illegal, but he kept that pedophile defending, rapist defending, uranium selling, classified email sending, corrupt lie spreading crook out of office
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>>739922723
Another way to look at it
Trump is the lesser of 2 evil /b/ros
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>>739922751
Ik he is
I wonder what liberals have to say about this thread
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>>739922723
Bumping this thread
LIBERALS GET IN
I NEED YOUR OPINION
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>>739922723
>spending this much time constructing careful propaganda
>I have no dog in this fight, you can believe me

Sure thing
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>>739923182
What is your point
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>>739923099
they don't get paid for shilling early see. try again after 10am anon
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>>739923226
FUGG NOT IMAGE FAG
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>>739923207
That you're just some shill faggot trying to bait people into an old argument
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>>739923249

it was the same during the election cycle

after like 1am-5am pst it was radio silence
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>>739923249
Well you're out numbered in this thread are you
2 pro trumpers
1 liberal
1 images fag
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>>739922723
If Trump colluded with Russia to subvert the election results he committed treason which automatically makes him an even larger criminal than he already was.
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>>739923375
When people are sleeping
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>>739922891
liberals have lost their battle on 4chan.
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Trumps a pathetic piece of trash.

Russia hacked our election voter registration and the dnc. And perpetrated the largest targeted propaganda campaign the world has ever seen.

All the intelligence agencies agree. Trumps own appointees agree.

He was in on it

His son. Son in law. Our attorney general. Paul manafort are all proven Liars. Often incriminating themselves over the Russia issue.

His administration is trying to get rid of NN. Gutted the EPA. Turn schools into for profit garbage. The AG is trying to attack marijauna now and reimplimented civil forfeiture.

So much for states rights. Only when convenient.

Trump started a voter fraud commision solely to justify a lie that he made up about illegal immigrants voting. Then doxxed the couple states that actually gave up theor people's info.

He's a fucking disaster.

Now he's talking about pardons because he's knows he's caught. His finances are being investigated and any sane person knows he's not on the up and up.

None of this was surprising though. We knew what he was. The Russian propaganda worked though because Americans are gullible idiots.

If Republicans had any self respect they would turn on him and slowly they are.

Even foxnews is little by little. Still not nearly enough.

I can't wait till he is a footnote in American history and how suddenly all those trump voters will claim they actually voted for Gary Johnson.
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>>739923408
Did you read the thread
I believe he did the right thing for doing the wrong thing (like edward Snowden)
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>>739923485
meanwhile in reality...
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>>739923485
found the CNN fan
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>>739922723
isn't anyone who changes someones diapers considered a pedophile
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POL is that way
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>>739922723

Remember when Donald Trump was business partners with the Russian government and his company got 53 million from the Russian government investment fund called Rusnano that was started by Vladimir Putin and is referred to as "Putin's Child"?

Oh wait, that wasn't Trump it was John Podesta.

Remember when Donald Trump received 500 thousand for a speech in Moscow and paid for by Renaissance Capital, a company tied to Russian Intelligence Agencies?

Oh wait, that was Bill Clinton.

Remember when Donald Trump approved the sale of 20% of US uranium to the Russians while he was Secretary of State which gave control of it to Rosatom the Russian State Atomic Energy Corporation?

Oh wait, that was Hillary Clinton.

Remember when Donald Trump lied about that and said he wasn't a part of approving the deal that gave the Russians 1/5 of our uranium, but then his emails were leaked showing he did lie about it?

Oh wait, that was Hillary Clinton and John Podesta.

Remember when Donald Trump got 145 million dollars from shareholders of the uranium company sold to the Russians?

Oh wait, that was Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation.

Remember when Donald Trump accepted millions in donations from Russian Oligarchs like the chairman of a company that's part of the Russian Nuclear Research Cluster, the wife of the mayor of Moscow, and a close pal of Putins?

Oh wait, that was the Clinton Foundation.

Remember when Donald Trump failed to disclose all those donations before becoming the Secretary of State, and it was only found out when a journalist went through Canadian tax records?

Oh wait, that was Hillary Clinton.

Remember when Donald Trump told Mitt Romney that the 80s called and it wanted its Russian policy back. The Cold War is over?

Oh wait, that was President Obama.

Man... Trump's ties to Russia are really disgusting!
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>>739923485
How do we know you're not lying
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>>739923615
Jesus Christ what a hilarious list of vague non-achievements

Nominating Gorsuch is the only thing of note he's done (other than the limp-wristed attack on Syria).
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>>739923732
this
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>>739923687
Pedophile defender
Believe her arguments
How evil
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>>739923485
>Russia hacked our election voter registration

proof?
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>>739923918
Everyone report this nigger (for spam and flooding)
Where are the mods when we need them
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>>739922723
You do realize that just about everything in your post in not true, right?
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>>739922723
>Not to mention that she defended a pedophile rapist
she defended trump? I did not know that.
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>>739924007
yeah, report me
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>>739922723
>>739922891
You want my opinion? here goes:

Trump is still an awful president. Lesser of two evils? Yes, I agree.

BETTER than Hillary? No.

GOOD president in general? No.

FIT to be president in any way? No.

DOES a good job as president? No.

It's like when 2 guys each kill a guy, and then one of them kills the other. Yeah, the one guy killed a murderer, but he's STILL A MURDERER.

Trump is shit. Hillary is shit. 2 Party system is shit. US Politics is shit in general. He's an awful president. Would hillary have been better? No. Would she have been worse? No.
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>>739924007
taht should work
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>>739923464
but racism and...
nothing else, supports trump
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>>739922723
>All you hear from liberals is RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA

Somebody was born after the Cold War. The reason that you are hearing 'Russia, Russia, Russia,' is because the country is still run by baby boomers, who grew up being conditioned to hate and fear the commies. The Cold War is long over. The mentality and atmosphere it created is still alive and well, for now, and will be for at least a couple more decades.
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>>739923868
September 2016, FBI Director James Comey testified before the House Judiciary Committee that the FBI was investigating Russian hackers attempting to disrupt the 2016 election and that federal investigators had detected hacked-related activities in, state voter-registration databases,[38] which independent assessments determined were soft targets for hackers.[39] Comey stated there were multiple attempts to hack voter database registrations.[37] Director of National Intelligence James Clapper attributed Russian hacking attempts to Vladimir Putin
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>>739924007
I can't believe this shit
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>>739923868
In August 2016, the FBI issued a nationwide "flash alert" warning state election officials about hacking attempts.[39] In September 2016, U.S. Department of Homeland Security officials and the National Association of Secretaries of State reported that hackers had penetrated, or sought to penetrate, the voter-registration systems in more than 20 states over the previous few months.[38] Federal investigators attributed these attempts to Russian government-sponsored hackers,[37] and specifically to Russian intelligence agencies.[39] Four of the intrusions into voter registration databases were successful, including intrusions into the Illinois and Arizona databases.[40]
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>>739924110
The main part of this thread is:
Is Trump similar to Edward Snowden IF he colluded
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>>739924007
Mods take a cut from the same benefactors who pay the shills to post this liberal shit
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>>739923868
Illinois officials reported that information on up to 200,000 registered voters was stolen.[39] The FBI and DHS increased their election-security coordination efforts with state officials as a result.[37][38] Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson reported that 18 states had requested voting-system security assistance from DHS.[37] The department also offered risk assessments to the states, but just four states expressed interest, as the election was rapidly approaching.[38] The reports of the database intrusions prompted alarm from Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, Democrat of Nevada, who wrote to the FBI saying foreign attempts to cast doubt on free and fair elections was a danger to democracy not seen since the Cold War.[
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>>739924261
But I'm a libertarian...
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>>739924261
not libcuck, just no politics
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>>739924130
Who the fuck cares about Hillary tho

If trump is impeacched, we don't get hillary, we get pence
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>>739922723
>All you hear from "liberals"
>Proceeds to make the exact same argument many progressive independent news networks make on a daily basis

Establishment and corporate democrats does not equal all liberals
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>>739924200
Glad to know Russia a good boy now and dindu nuffin
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>>739924258
>IF
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>Blames Hillary for doing her job as a lawyer
>Trump:Well, I'll tell you the funniest is that I’ll go backstage before a show, and everyone's getting dressed and ready and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere. And I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and therefore I'm inspecting it. You know, I'm inspecting, I want to make sure that everything is good.

>You know, the dresses. ‘Is everyone okay?’ You know, they're standing there with no clothes. ‘Is everybody okay?’ And you see these incredible looking women, and so, I sort of get away with things like that. But no, I've been very good.
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>>739924369
I don't know... what the fuck. I just don't understand what you are saying. I did not say "I want Hillary" I gave my opinion. And yes, I am aware, we won't get Hillary, we'll get Pence. Thanks for stating the obvious
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>>739924130
We'll think of it this way
What if no one tried to kill hitler
It's murder
But it had to be done
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>>739922723
The HRC email story was stupid. Maybe possibly a foreign government could have hacked her email. Did it happen? No. They hacked DNC email. You are willing to believe any stupid conspiracy theory (why aren't you in a Walmart/FEMA internment camp right now? Because it was total bullshit)

But when real life conspiracy is happening right on front of your face, ie Russia (Trump doesn't even try to hide his love for Putin's nutsack) it's all fake news.
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>>739924440
You. Ant prove that TRUMP himself colluded
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>>739924504
I really do not see the point you are trying to make here. Can you elaborate please?
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>>739924470
Why bother comparing the two today? Hillary is completely irrelevant, the only two evils worth discussing are trump and pence
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>>739924456
If they're not comfortable with it they can fuck off and go somewhere else, no one is holding a gun to their head making them be models, or talk to management about their discomfort and ask for privacy screens. Eat a bag of shit, his job had perks and you're jealous.
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Trump is going to prison for treason.
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>>739924597
My opinion on the matter was requested, or did I misread something?
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>>739924551
yet, but you think lil don was acting on his own?
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>>739922723
HRC would have been an excellent President.
Her "crimes" and reputation are the products of a multi-year smear campaign by Fox news and the right wing lunatics in this country.
Trump is an incompetent ass who is currently violating the emoluments clause, continues ot obstruct justice, lies shamelessly and pathologically, and will sell out the American people in a heartbeat if he thinks it will benefit him personally.

You all got played and our country is worse for it.
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>>739924456
Hillary could've chose to not defend him in the first place
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>>739924512
Every politician colludes and does shady underground deals with foreign governments, it's one of the core principles of the American political system
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>>739922723
It's better to have Russia in power because they have a pristine human rights record.
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>>739924626
Hint: it's fucking Miss Teen USA
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>>739922723
>voted Gary Johnson
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>>739924658
Maybe
But there's no proof that trump HIMSELF colluded
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>>739922723
He didn't, though. It was a meme started by Democrats after the election. And now it's snowballed.

Any meeting at all, including a group dinner, is being painted in sinister terms by cable networks that need eyeballs. They don't even care about the damage.

So now theres an investigator who is going to expand expand expand until they can find any small thing in anyone's past associations to make this all seem worthwhile.
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>>739924666
Idk man, I really don't care as much about Hillary's crimes as I care about her political history, her political notions, and the fact that she was blatantly lieing during her campaign, over and over. And that's not propaganda someone spew about, that's facts. not saying that noone else ever lies, but the way she lied and how fucking much she lied was just baffling to me. She lost alot of respect from me for that.
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>>739924658
Of course. Jr, Kushner, and Manafort all met with Russians who said they would provide dirt on Hillary as part of a Russian government operation to elect his father, and none of hem thought to tell Donald that he Kremlin is looking out for him.

He didn't even KNOW about the meeting until the rest of us did! ;)
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>>739924666
>Her "crimes" and reputation are the products of a multi-year smear campaign by Fox news and the right wing lunatics in this country.

Except for the fact that almost all left leaning voters hate her too? You don't need to look at Fox news or listen to right wingers to see how atrocious her record is, the election was a right wing lunatic pretending to be a populist vs a right wing robot pretending to be a democrat
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>>739924526
Worst makeup i've ever seen.
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>>739924512
> Ignores Hillary's illegal acts.
> Swings on Trump's nuts.
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I voted for Hillary even though I had issues with the Clintons. Never regretted a vote I've cast ever and sure as fuck know I made the right choice. Trump is going to start wars for Israel. His economic and domestic policy is also shit.
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>>739924696
She didn't want to defend him, and tried to wriggle out of it, but he case was assigned to her and a judge didn't allow her to recuse
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>>739924577
Hillary was so evil
That it was better for trump to collide with Russia to keep her out of office Than to elect that evil bitch
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>>739924753
So you are saying that he should remain president even if he was unjustly placed there by actions commited by a foreign government? Wouldn't any true leader immediately call for a renewed election? To prove that he was truly chosen by the people?
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>>739924828
So man up and admit that Trump is just as bad if not worse. The man averages 4 false/misleading statements a day
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Most importantly - Trump has caused millennial and lefty faggot asses to become and remain sore for months and months, and will continue for 7.5 more years. It's fucking glorious. I don't care if he and Putin opened up a secret facility that turns new born babies into hotdogs, I'd support him just because you don't.
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>>739922723
OP here
Bye nigs
Have fun nigs
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>>739924802
>Any meeting at all, including a group dinner, is being painted in sinister terms by cable networks that need eyeballs.
What about a meeting to provide dirt in Hillary from the Russian government as part of a broader effort to elect Trump, in exchange for lifting sanctions? Because that's what the emails Trump Jr released lay out.
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>>739924960
no, not misplaced, you libs forgot to vote, or you're still in 5th grade
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>>739924976
It depends how you look at it, at lot of democrats and left leaning independents voted for Trump because they knew if Hillary won absolutely nothing would change, but with Trump in office everyone's up in arms and ready for a much needed political revolution
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>>739924949
>>739924960
Referencing the point I made right after your post, I would agree that it was a good thing this all happened, but that doesn't mean the situation itself is good. It's absolute shit. There should be new elections and there should be many other things (like NSA not violating constitutional rights, cops not abusing their powers, etc etc) but in the end, its jsut gonna stay shit. I agree that it is good that hillary did not take office, but I must make clear that in now ay do I approve of the means by which this was accomplished.
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>>739924960
But trump wasn't chosen by the people either way, he lost the popular vote
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>>739924828
You honestly consider HRC a worse liar than Trump? Come back to reality.
>>739924864
Except her ACTUAL record (hint: not screaming about paid speeches, actual policy positions and sponsored legislation) isn't some closeted right wing shit show.
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>>739924934
she could tried not being a piece of shit about it
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>>739924862
>He didn't even KNOW about the meeting until the rest of us did! ;)
whew lad
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>>739922723
ITT traitors rationalize their treason by pointing at others and repeating conspiracy theories.
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>>739925022
>I don't care if he and Putin opened up a secret facility that turns new born babies into hotdogs, I'd support him just because you don't.
Trump supporters in a nutshell
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>>739924949
Fucking ridiculous. Turn off Alex Jones, Hannity, et al.
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>>739922723
So when he hires a known Russian agent who's on the lam from court convictions for human trafficking, mob laundry and public massacres, that's fine. As long as those charges aren't made out to a woman and aren't based in court verdicts but in /pol/ conspiracies?
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>>739925085
Fuck this bullshit 3D chess.
In the meantime, the GOP stole a Supreme Court seat which will impact the future of this country for the next 30 years, and he may get more.

This let it burn and start over is short-sighted bullshit that will ultimately do nothing but hurt the poor and middle class in the United States.
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>>739925304
reach harder
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>>739925153
>ACTUAL record
>(hint: not screaming about paid speeches, actual policy positions and sponsored legislation)

If those things don't represent her actual record what the fuck does?
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>>739924976
In case you didn't notice, already did. I'm not a trump supporter, neither a hillary supporter. That statement was purely related to hillary. I didn't like trump from the start, and my regard for him only worsened from there. He's just as awful of a person as hillary, I absolutely agree.

Context: >>739924130

>>739925083

I did actually vote. No, I did not vote for Hillary nor Trump. I refuse to give either of those fuckwits my vote. I know, its the same as not voting, but whats so wrong about making your point clear by voting for neither?
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>>739925199

That's right, because I enjoy you being mad. The madder you are, the gladder I are.
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>>739922723
The defended the pedophile you're talking about because it was her legal obligation to do so. In an interview she laughed at remembering herself having thought if the jury didn't convict, it would have meant there is no justice. So she was fully aware he'd lose.
As for the uranium deal, she was one of nine committee members who had a vote. She couldn't approve or deny it by herself. As far as secrets go, Trump literally gave away intelligence to the Russians for no fucking reason. At least Clinton wasn't sending them to anyone suspicious and she sure wasn't giving them away. I know small minded people don't change their mind, but Clinton wasn't literally the devil. But Trump is as bad if not worse than Hillary for selling out American democracy to a foreign state.
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>>739925367
That didn't read well.
I meant not paid speeches, instead reference her actual policy positions & sponsored legislation.
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>>739925359
I don't have to reach at all. There's 20 years of history, public court transcripts, and outstanding extradition requests here.

What *you* have got is a pedo conspiracy based on the mention of pizza in a 1.7gb mailbox file.
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>>739923671
Or, you know, saw the e-mails that Trump Jr. tweeted himself. Or is Trump's own family fake news too?
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>>739922723
What I don't understand is this "America first" week bullshit... All his merchandise are made in developing countries... He doesn't even follow his own policies. Is this leading by example?
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>>739925154
I don't think being a piece of shit to people is something that determines whether or not you're qualified to be president anymore.
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>>739925342
Stop. Fucking stop. Youre so annoying. You only post in trump appraisal threads. Youre obviously a shill. Stop wasting our time. Fucking god.
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>>739925325
The point is that the democratic party is just as bad as the republican party, nobody wins, it's better to make some sacrifices in order to try and get some actual real change for once
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>>739925454
It just sells well in memes. You don't actually have ot follow through with it.
Do you think real patriots would support a white Erdogan like this?
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>>739925453
This, It's funny how you they still don't believe it even though Retard JR admitted to everything.
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>>739923485
finally an amerifat who isn't retarded.

Man, you guys need to do something, your country is full of retards and king retard is in charge. I know there are still decent americans, but you guys are getting outnumbered by retards, when you get in charge next time you need to change how your electoral system work, you can't allow another braindead retard to reach the presidency
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Liberals are too dumb to think it's a valid strategy to choose the lesser of two evils. They think that if Trump is a shitty president on his own merits then we Trump voters are automatically BTFO and should feel regret. What they don't realize is that since Hillary was the ONLY realistic alternative to Trump, unless Trump starts like WW3 or something really bad like that, nearly every Trump voter will still be ridiculously happy with voting for him if only because we prevented Hillary from winning.
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>>739922723
No-one can attack her for defending that pedo.

The same laws that protect him protect us, and that's important as fuck.

The rest I can maybe agree with, She's every bit as corrupt as him, just WAY smarter about it.
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>>739924891
Stop posting your fetish
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>>739925386
Yeah I caught that the first time you said it.
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>>739925153
Yes, I know. I was just trying to make a point. He wasn't elected by the people, you are correct.
>>739925150
Literally NEVER said that. I said that Hillary is a ridiculous piece of shit that lies 24/7. In no way did I reference Trump, did I? I was making my point on Hillary clear. Trump is just as much of a liar.

On a sidenote, why do you try to twist my words like that? I hate both of them, but as soon as I express my opinion on only one of them, everyone assumes I mean the opposite for the other. What the fuck is your thought process
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>>739925542
I just find it hilarious how all these retards were screaming about jobs leaving the united states and kick all the illegals out when His own merchandise along with ivanka's are produced in low wage factories over seas... how can trumpanzees defend this?
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>>739923485
>Now he's talking about pardons because he's knows he's caught.
That right there should've been an absolute breaking point. Given it's not for many, it illustrates the fall of the American empire, and its beginning degeneration into a tinpot dictatorship. An ideology that fits them to a tee.
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>>739925513
My point is, that point is bullshit.
Let this healthcare repeal pass and then tell me about how they're equally bad.

This cynical defeatest bullshit is how we ended up with a toddler in office.

What real change do you think we're going to see because of Trump? Do you honestly think it will offset the damage of the Trump Presidency (1+ new conservative justices on the SCOTUS, potential healthcare repeal, regressive tax reform, more religion in gov't, etc.)?
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>>739925625
I never said you claimed trump won the popular vote, take a xanax you fucking sperg
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Gary Johnson is a shill and a moron. There were no good choices this election. I considered Donald trump the safest simply because he was an outside and there was no proof he was in the race solely for personal gain like there was for Hillary. I wish you fags would stop posting this shit here when there's a board for this already
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Democrats and Republicans are the "same"

Except one party tries to pass laws to stop fraud and corruption. Gerrymandering. Etc and the other revels in it


Get a fucking clue.
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>be op
>Finish gargling on 20 cocks
>Decide to go on /b/ for the first time ever
>Use green text for a FUCKING rant
>Newfag
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>>739925774
Fucking amen
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>>739925735
My bad, I fucked up the formatting.

>>739925153 should be referencing the bottom text, and >>739925150 the top text. my bad.
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>>739925739
>Gary Johnson is a shill and a moron.

I understand not agreeing with someone politically, but do yourself a favor and stop calling people morons because of it. it makes you look like. . . a moron, seriously. Just break that habit.
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>>739925844
In that case carry on, and give me ur xanax
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>>739925872
I agree. Just because people have retarded views on things doesn't mean they are actually intellectually incapacitated (unlike most of /b/)

Remember, theres people that have multiple degrees and spent over 10 years in college and still think the earth is flat
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Okay, I hate to put my Mexican cousin on blast like this, but what the fuck is with you lying about she's lying? I mean, I'm watching the debates, trying to see what's the difference between these two candidates. And I'm listening to Trump talk whatever dumbs shit he thinks is Political Debate and Hilary FINALLY gets to talk and I can see what THE PEOPLE THAT SHE WORKS are pushing. And this fat, berry picking, church going to, midnight black fuck is sitting there saying the the most ANNOY THE LIBTARD voice "Teacher she's lying" "Teacher she's lying" about fucking Hilary Clinton when Turd was FUCKING PARROTING ALL HER POINTS. WHAT THE FUCK. I can tell she's lying, but she's lying in the BIG CITY UH THIS IS WHAT WE WANT, BUT DONT EXPECT IT TO HAPPEN AND BLAME ME WHEN IT DOESN'T BECAUSE I HAVE A POLITICAL JOB TO UPHOLD. Donald lies outright. I mean if you fucking /pol/ (white) asshole would watch CSPAN you'd fucking know how people act.

Wait...

Oh shit.
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>>739922723
>>739924258
It's not illegal to talk to Russian people. It's not even illegal to ask a Russian to tell you things about someone.

>>739925022
So you care more that people you don't like get pissed than you do about the actual direction USA is taking? (Or rather, continuing to take; Trump didn't invent any of this shit)
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>>739925077
Which specific emails laid that quid pro quo out?
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>>739925929
Used to take Ritalin on prescription, but do not take them anymore since I voluntarily stopped taking them (always hated having to take pills) In retrospect, I should have kept the prescriptions going and jsut flipped the pills for cash, I would be making bank rn. Ill share a bowl with you doe
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>>739924949
What's so evil about Hillary? She lied once about her emails. Something Trump has done several times (Mexico will pay for the wall, "the F.B.I. person really reports directly to the president of the United States, which is interesting", says he's passed more legislation than anyone but FDR, etc). A committee she was on passed a uranium deal (not her). She tried to get out of defending a pedophile but she was told it was her legal obligation to do so so she couldn't. Her foreign policy was shit but no worse than what Trump's doing except he's killed a shit ton of civilians.
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>>739925844
HRC has told lies, sure, but so has everyone and certainly every politician. She is in no way a remarkable liar in the field of politics. The narrative that she's this awful corrupt liar does not stand up to daylight when you start trimming away the bullshit conspiracy theories.
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>>739925960
What are campaign finance laws?

What is perjury to Congress ( Jeff Sessions. Now twice after Don Jr's email )
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>>739925596
This.
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>>739926002
The sanctions are the only part not mentioned explicitly, they always bring the magnitsky act up via mentioning "adoptions" (same as in the undisclosed second g20 meeting). Did Jr not say they primarily talked about "adoptions"? What did you believe she wanted rather than sanctions lifted?
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>>739925946

>mommy always taught me that every idea that pops into my head is magical and special, so anyone who disagrees with me is by definition retarded and a moron
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>>739926105

>traitor

Sorry to burst your bubble but digging up dirt on corrupt witch candidates is not being a traitor. stay mad tho
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>>739925960
It's illegal to to have representatives of the Russian government help you influence an American election.
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>>739926129
Yes, I agree, on the big scale, she's probably just a big liar, but not THE LITERAL INCARNATION OF LUCIFER HIMSELF. She still lies a fuckton. Blatantly, and with alot of disregard. Sure, most other politicians lie their asses off as well,m and I absolutely agree with yout that this is a very big issue, but she's still a fucking liar, even if everyone else does it. It doesn't make her any bette,r in fact, it makes her worse, since she COULD take up the opportunity and get some bonus points for honesty.
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>>739925153
>Except her ACTUAL record isn't some closeted right wing shit show
Except that it is.
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old hipster spam > young korean chick spam. Just saying, keep it up.
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>>739926214
I do not understand your post and I do not understand why you linked my post in it. Are you sure you referenced the correct post?
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>>739926370
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>>739925596
>No-one can attack her for defending that pedo.

lol please. If the tables were turned libs would be playing that card 24/7.
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Calling Hillary a liar and pretending Trump doesn't lie almost every single day about not only minor insignificant things but actual polices and facts is amazing.

He is pathological. She's just a politician. ( A much more qualified and rational one in every respect.)
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>>739926355
...OP?
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>>739926328
It's a closeted left wing shit show. Trump and Hillary are the exact same person, they just fight for different sides. The liberals want individual freedom and control of corporations while conservatives want individual control (except for guns) and corporate freedom. They both have the exact same foreign policy though - blow shit up until something happens. Except Trump has killed a shot ton of civilians.
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>>739926426
They'd be wrong too.
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>>739926426
And they'd have a weak argument. Good thing we don't have to worry about Trump's previous study and practice of American law.
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>>739926426
Trump literally bragged about watching teen pagent girls in a dressing room.
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>>739926426
And they'd be wrong then too. What's your point?
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>>739926315
So because HRC didn't pass your purity test, we end up with President Trump.

Fucking christ.
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>>739926611
outsider, dummy
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>>739926557
They're in a pageant. They're supposed to be "objectified" libtard
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>>739926649
They're children. Lol
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>>739926515
This is an emotional rant detached from reality.
HRC and Trump could hardly be more different.
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>>739926611
Are you actually blaming ME for trump becoming president? As stated before, I didn't vote for Trump. I didn't vote for hillary. I still cast my vote.
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>>739926611

Yes, the guy who has a lot of leadership experience running a billion+ dollar corporate empire, instead of cankles who has experience doing what, getting paid (bribes) to do speeches and was a Senator, aka professional voter?
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>>739926190
Information isn't financial support. But who knows, courts can be bought.

>perjury to Congress
Not something rich people get prosecuted over, apparently. Clapper lied to Congress BIGLY. Nothing happened. But anyway, I had Trump in mind specifically, not Sessions. And no part of speaking to a Russian involves Congress in any way. Talking to a Russian is one thing, lying about it is another.

>>739926286
Not if you influence it legally. It's not illegal to tell people the truth.
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>>739926611
There's an argument to be made that she's every bit as corrupt as him but would be way smarter and quieter about it. People are holding her up as some beacon of justice and truth and she's really not.

At least ineptitude from Trump is easy to see. Clinton might've sold the countries interests to Saudi without us ever knowing.
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>>739926649
>trump abuses authority to make young girls be naked around him against their will
lol look at what a real man looks like libtards

>the word "pizza" occurs in a mail dump
OMG PEDO
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>>739926315
Trump literally lies about things that were recorded and witnessed. He lies about facts. And he's never apologized for it. Hillary at least apologizes. I doubt she means it but that's not something a devil would do. Also, comparing her to Satan is even more stupid than comparing Trump to Hitler. At least Hitler existed.
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>>739926742
>experience
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>>739926742
That's a bad argument imo, since a "billion+ corporate empire" can and has fallen, actually, what, 4 times? didnt he declare bankruptcy 4 times? Yeah, definitely qualified.
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>>739926742
Sure, being a Senator and Sec of State, those are meaningless resume fodder.

All you can do is throw out sexist insults you fucking cretin.
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>>739926783
Yes, an argument that relies on unproven conspiracy theories.
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>>739926742
Trump's broke. His family needs loans from Qatar and Russia to keep they're lifestyle going. American banks refuse to do business with him.

He's a fraud. Wonder why he won't release his tax returns. Something every president before him has done. Something he has said he would do on multiple occasions. Gee I wonder why he won't lol.

The only legitimate success he's had is as a reality TV star.
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>>739926688
No, they're both dirty fucks that want government control. I'd side with the one who stands for individual freedom but they're both wrong.
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>>739926611
Imagine that, not wanting to vote for crooks. What has America come to?
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>>739926817
I didn't even actually compare her to Satan. Did you read my post? I literally said

>>"...she's probably just a big liar, but not THE >>LITERAL INCARNATION OF LUCIFER >>HIMSELF."
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>>739926882
>The only legitimate success he's had is as a reality TV star.
Never seen him, but then I don't watch the Kardashians
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>>739922723
Also libertarian.. also agree trump is better than hillary
But the way he colluded with Russia was even more sloppy and easy to criticize than edward snowden. He risked national security by approving of the disclosure forms by his staff, and made himself susceptible to blackmail by not going through the proper channels. Trump could have been a slam fucking dunk to the Democratic party, but he's too hyped up on cheap nationalism and his own ego to actually do shit fiscal conservatives want.
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>>739927010
Its already autosaging sir
Let er go
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>>739926958
Except one is an actual crook and one is a crook in Fox News fan fiction.
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>>739926092
Speaks to wall street for 600k
Shady donations from foreign countries
Foreign policy disasters (haiti, libya, benghazi)
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>>739926882
Just because he says he's gonna do something, it doesn't mean he has to do it. That means our enemies don't know what he's gonna do next. That's a good thing.
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>>739926783
There is video of her lying about certain things, I'm not entirely sure of other evidence but at least at the time it seemed like she had a similar amount of shady shit going on as Trump did but was way better at covering her ass about it.

This is one thing that we get with this presidency than we wouldn't with her. Transparency. Sure it's due to ineptitude rather than integrity but I'm 100% sure we wouldn't get to see 1/10th of the shit we do now, and it'd still be happening.
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>>739926780
Information isn't financial support but financial support isn't the only thing the law states.

>The law makes it illegal for a foreign national to directly or indirectly make a "contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation" relating to an election. An advisory opinion from the FEC states the "thing of value" does not have to come at an actual cost.
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>>739927085
You are literally retarded. The enemy NEVER knows what your gonna do next. You can tell them "Im gonna build a house" They still wont know if ur a methhead or what happened to your dog. They just know ur doing 1 thing out of 1000
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>>739926875
There is video of her lying about certain things, I'm not entirely sure of other evidence but at least at the time it seemed like she had a similar amount of shady shit going on as Trump did but was way better at covering her ass about it.

This is one thing that we get with this presidency than we wouldn't with her. Transparency. Sure it's due to ineptitude rather than integrity but I'm 100% sure we wouldn't get to see 1/10th of the shit we do now, and it'd still be happening
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>>739927213
THIS IS WHERE OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE BEING SPENT, SOME SHADY FUCKING HUT IN INDIA WITH A HOMELESS DUDE PUSHING BUTTONS FOR A DOLLAR A DAY.
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>>739926970
I was agreeing with you. That's how a conversation goes. You respond to the other's argument.
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same fagging, huh
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>>739927035
You keep telling yourself that. I'll just leave you with this. Her party stole the nomination from the one candidate who:
1) Had popular support
2) Could have defeated Trump
How come no one is interested in whether or not she COLLUDED with them over this?
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>>739924416
>everything is black and white

Did I say that they were? Are you such a simpleton that you require everything to be spelled out over and over again? No, Russia is not anything but one else huge cesspool of cruelty, corruption, and backwards thinking that makes Sand fucking Mountain Alabama look enlightened. It is a nation and culture built on shit, and failure. This is a given. They do not magically become the good guys just because older Americans are still hung-up on the political atmosphere that existed from 1948 until the late 80s/early 90s.
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>>739927167
Sup FBI
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>>739927280
Well, yes, I agree with you that Trump is a much more obvious liar, and that he's awful as well
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>>739927319
I'm the same person the guy responded to, yeah. That's also how a conversation goes. It involves two people. Are the people on /b actually this retarded?
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keep lying
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Wow. Just wow.
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>got definition of bankruptcy from playing monopoly and thinks it means tanking a business instead of what it is, a financial reorganization.

>>739926833

The point is that the President is an executive position. She has -zero- experience running shit. Being a shill politician has nothing to do with being an executive.

>>739926882
>Trump's broke

lol, he's generated more wealth than you and the next 10 generations of your shitty peasant family ever will. Shut the fuck up and know your place, pleb.
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Good one.
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>>739927322
Bernie lost.

The dnc collusion thing was just more propaganda.

Seriously. Go find me the info Donna braille gave to hillary. I'll wait.

Preferring a candidate over emails isn't colluding. Especially considering bernie sanders wasn't even a Democrat. He switched parties just to have a chance.

I actually voted for bernie. But he lost fair and square and I'm not going to sit here and pretend hillary is some cheating monster and hand my vote over to Donald trump like a moron.
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>>739927439
I think they are trying to invalidate our arguments by implying we are the same person. Pretty amazing actually, didn't know retardation could be this severe
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>>739926742
>running a billion+ dollar corporate empire
Except that has nothing to do with being head of state. Trump can't sit at the end of a table to bark orders. He is beholden to multiple branches of government.

And you see the result of that. 6 months in with little in the way of major events that would shake the US, and Capitol Hill is in total chaos. Shaking things up indeed. What makes you confident Trump can hold his composure when something 9/11 tier shit happens?
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>>739927493
Bankruptcy means you cannot pay your bills. Literally. That is what bankruptcy is. Having absolutely no money. What is your definition?
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>>739927635
how much do you get paid? I bet life sucks for you, man I love living in a first world country and enjoying, you know, not having malaria
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He doesn't work for Trump I don't think.
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>>739927559
>Except that has nothing to do with being head of state.

lel. What exactly do you think it is that a president does each day? The president is the head of the executive branch. He's not king or miracle worker, he oversees all of the departments which dish out the government's services. Executive experiences has everything to do with it. What do you think a president does, sits around coming up with policy and giving speeches?
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why u do this doe. Just for fun? Do you just hate alklk the /pol/ shit on /b/?
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>>739927174
Everything has *some* value, but in a sentence like that, "money or other thing of value" obviously doesn't mean "anything". I think the context makes it quite clear.

According to you, was the Russian golden showers story something of value? Should the courts look into it?
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>>739927789
What do you thinka senator does? EXACTLY what you just described. oversees departments within the states, can appropriate funds, bring legislature on the way, etc etc. Senator is actually kinda like a miniature president of a miniature country, jsut with lees responsibilites
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There are different types of bankruptcy, and what you have described is more on the individual level but still doesn't mean "run out of money." The corporate bankruptcies Trump went through we financial reorganizations, which is required by law. If you are incorporated then there are procedures you have to comply with for restructuring. But during campaign mudslinging it's more fun to just pretend it means "ran out of money".
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>>739927513
> Bernie lost.
Yes, he did.

> But he lost fair and square
No, he didn't.
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Lose what? I cant really lose my arguments when people stop replying (happens with or without you actually)
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so there's no point in you being here, is there?
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>>739927513
And Bernie would have been fucking destroyed in a general election. HRC kept the kid gloves on, the GOP would not have.
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>>739927913
>What do you thinka senator does? EXACTLY what you just described. oversees departments within the states

LOL no, Senators do not oversee departments. They are representatives, which makes them essentially lobbyists for the state in Washington.
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>>739927957
is that an argument? a rant? an insult? what are you trying to say with that?
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>>739927861
I don't understand what your arguing.

Clearly meeting for damaging info about hillary is something of value.

Not to mention Jr lying about it three different times.

Sessions being in that meeting after denying meeting with Russians under oath.

The writing is on the wall why even bother trying to defend it and move the goal posts.
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He sure fucking did
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>>739928062
You are trying to shut down conversation about politics so people can stay under the illusions placed upon them by mainstream media and the hatred of their political counterparts. You are just undermining the free trade of ideas and thoughtful conversation, nothing more.

Why do you care enough to waste your time on this?
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>>739927958
How did he not lose fairly. Please explain.

Tell me what info hillary received that helped her win that debate that totally toppled bernie in one fail swoop.
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Not to mention that Bernie was most successful in caucus states, probably the most disenfranchising form of primary in existence.
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>>739927789
Yeah I addressed that already, but since you want to be an autist

>Executive experiences has everything to do with it
Except their are different types of "executive experience". Trump's only previous experience is guiding his businesses to increase profit margins. That's the sole purpose of any corporation. On Capitol Hill, he answers to other people in order to pass legislation, which is a much more abstract goal than adding dollar signs.

Like I said, 6 months under his leadership has been a shit show, and he's yet to take ANY blame for this nonesense. He's been a toxic blustering douchebag since I was born, and I knew exactly this was the clown show we would recieve. Oh but be proud, you sure stuck it to those liberals, opening the door wide open to right wing theocrats to take over.
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