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Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect

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Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?
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>>739876179
Only two possible answers to that; not American, or a cuck.
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>>739876179
Because I own more than one.
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YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Cuz I can't afford one.
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>>739876179
I own several, but I just like to take pictures of them
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>>739876179
because an ak47 is a superior firearm
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>>739876556

Your family, home and country aren't worth less than a thousand dollerydoos?
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>>739876179
>Why don't you own an AR-15 for self-defense and to protect your family, home and country?

What makes you think I don't? And more than one. Ask me about my 308 Scout rifle.
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Because I understand the modern marketplace and outsource my security to specialists.
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>>739876726
>308 Scout rifle.
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>>739876708
Wrong
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>>739876179
Is that the great lord Megatron??
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because i own a tavor f16 instead
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Because I'm a Syrup Fag and defending myself with what's classed as a restricted firearm up here is a huge no no.

That said, if someone does want into my house at a weird hour for the purposes of cultural enrichment, I keep a Stoeger Condor Outback (20" barrel O/U 12 gauge) in an easily accessed location that I could just as easily say was in the safe.
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>>739876179
wut?
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Because NJ has the strictest guns laws.
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cause i dont live in murica : (((
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>>739877529
Defending yourself with a non-restricted is still a pretty big no no.
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>>739877687
arrr man the harpoons me lads
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>>739877687
I'd hit that
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I'll take one in 6.8, please.
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>>739876179
I live in a Cuck State : (
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>>739876179
Illegal in my state.
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Because everybody else in my area owns one, no need to focus on being another generic rifleman when the commies invade, my semi-auto 12-gauge will do
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>>739878022

My thinking is what looks better on a table in front of a gun hating jury: a wood stock O/U trap & skeet shotgun or literally anything else. Plus, you don't even have to shoot 00buck or slugs because the pellets from birdshot don't even start to spread until about 6 feet from the muzzle.
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>>739878430
im gonna be honest. id shoot that.
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>>739876179
Because I have an ar-10
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>>739876179
because in canada if you shoot someone breaking into your house you can get charged with murder.
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>>739876179
I haven't had the time nor the money to buy and assemble the parts yet.

I already own a Sig p320 for home defense.
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>>739876179

>Because a Yugo Mauser pretty much calls 911 for you
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>>739878774
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh my god that is fucking sad
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>>739878870
I have a p320 full size and I fucking love it. Works amazing for IDPA too.
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>>739878774

https://www.ammoland.com/2016/03/canadian-self-defense-law-three-things-you-absolutely-must-know/
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>>739879063
Going to convert mine into the compact size when I get my concealed soon.

God bless florida and their lax CC permit laws.
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Because I don't live in dumb fuck redneck country and don't need to protect myself from the shit you retards bring on yourselves
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>>739879203
My state had some pretty sweet laws as well concerning weapons. Easy to defend your home, car or work from theft by using deadly force. Can even use deadly force at night for criminal mischief at your property. Can open carry, which only fags do, and they recently cut down the time to get your permit in half.

Texas
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>>739876179
Some girls flipped me off while i was driving so i put on my balaclava and followed them with my AR in the passengers seat
The look on their face was priceless
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>>739879365
You couldn't have said it any better
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>>739879203
I have a p938 for my CCW. i could carry my p320f if I wanted, printing isn't illegal here in florida I just prefer not to.
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What's the best AR in the $600-$700 range?
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You're better off being patient and saving up for a nicer one in the 12-15 range.
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>>739876179
Because I am not a homosexual that needs to be protected from the Christian Mafia.
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>>739882157
Any suggestions?
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>>739876179
spam

>>739876271
>>739876349
>>739876556
>>739876719
so much samefag from spammer

why dont you take your spam and your ar15 and shoot yourself in the fucking head you faggot spammer. gtfo.
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>>739876179
I do and I love this fucker more than anything (I'm a lonely fucking faggot)
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>>739876179
Because I'd rather purchase firearms that aren't overpriced shit.
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>>739878022
what the fuck kind of country is this?
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>>739876179
why dont you?
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>>739882859
timestamp
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>>739883352
Although I prefer my glock for home defense. Because I live in an apartment, and a rifle round is a bad fucking idea because it's a rifle round. . . . A handgun is a smarter choice for a home defense set up in an apartment setting.
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>>739883778
ha this faggot takes demands go get cucked
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>>739883967
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>>739884082
its true tho
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>>739876179
Because I don't expect to need to defend my family from poodles? I own a semi automatic .308.
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>>739884161
wheres your AR 15 if you dont have one you're one or more of the following

>poorfag
>liberalfag
>cuckstate/countryfag
>fag
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>>739876179
Because an AK is better.
(I still own ARs though, I can't help it, I love those black baby killing bastards.)
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>>739882859
>>739883778
disgusting rifle famm

>>739883352
holy fuck
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I have one, but I only use it for sport. Using an AR-15 for home defense is like using a 10 gauge against a rabbit. If a robber came into your house and you shot him with an AR-15, it would pierce his skull, go through two walls and the door, and it could still easily pierce some poor bastard's skull from down the street.
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>>739883352
Mall ninja'd to fuck and almost back. Needs more dakka.
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>>739885547
Someone plays too many video games.
Ask us how we know.
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>>739884914
i have a 300 savage cause im not a pussy you takes orders on /b/ fuck outta here
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ITT: Falling for the gun jew
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>>739882461
Christensen makes some good shit, theirs run about 2 gs though. If you can't afford that, Daniel defense or Wilson combat are nice as well.
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It's fun to build an AR-15. Easy to do. I love projects like that.
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>>739885671
because he built a mk18 clone?

??
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>>739886316
because a 5.56 FMJ will punch through 1/4 steel at 200yrds easy so think about how much it will go through point blank through a person and dry wall but I have an AR 15 for defense and I figure fuck the intruder a 1/4in hole is coverable
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>>739886316
No, believing headshots are normal and easy to get in actual self defense situations.
Also overestimating how strong that intermediate cartridge really is - because it is so light, and most home AR builds are little 16" barrel numbers, standard milspec ball ammo tends to be anemic since it was made for 22" originally, as such it tends to dump its velocity with kinetic transfer when it encounters a solid obstacle quickly and almost completely depending on composition and thickness of the object.
People make great shock absorbers for the round, and if you do get shoot through because they are a skeletal crackhead, it likely won't go much past one, maybe 2 layers of drywall, and bricks/thicker wood like studs or exterior paneling are right out the door for penetration.
Hell, even FBI training says switch to handguns when subjects have good cover because handgun ammo actually penetrates better unless they're using M855/SS109 with at least a 18-22" barrel, like the M249 it was designed for.
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>>739885547
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Fuck this country.
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>>739876179
Because I live in a sane country where not every random person has access to a gun. Especially not semi-automatic rifles.
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>>739888577
Name a country that allows everyone to own guns unrestricted, so everyone can have one whenever they want.
We're waiting.
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>>739888883
So close
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>>739876179
Because I don't need a fully automatic machine gun since I live in a civilised country.
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>>739877115
I mean, it absafuckinglutely is
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>>739888883
America
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>>739888011
m855 is deigned to be shot out of a 14.5 barrel, and it's my personal AR setup. I pretty much agree with most everything you said
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>>739888883
You may have a few restrictions but it's clearly not enough. Have you seen the amount of mass shootings that happen in your backwards country? I gotta say, it feels so nice to be able to go to a cinema or out to eat and not have to worry about some lunatic gunning everyone down.
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>>739876179
hell of a lotta money for something that's useless in a condo
if I had a big lot of land, absolutely
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>>739888011
also the original ar15 had a 1:12 twist for light bullets, most people have 1:7 today, the military uses 1:9 for m855 and m856
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>>739878022
Maybe you should refer to the precedent case, Tried by twelve v. Carried by six
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>>739876179
I would, but i don't have the money. probably gonna get a Taurus revolver for looks and affordability
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>>739889472
Getting assblasted by gay muzzies is much better, no?
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>>739889415
No, M855 was designed to give the M249 better penetration at farther ranges. It performs "ok" out of SBR, but lacks long range performance, because you lose several hundred FPS out of a 14.5 vs. 16" vs a 22" barrel. That round really needs speed to shine, and short barrel lengths just don't do it justice.
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>>739889861
A fair and intellectual point made. You're clearly a scholar.
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>>739889967
the m249 was always designed to the same ammo and even mags as the m4 and it was a miserable failure
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>>739889412
No.
>>739889472
We have a lot of restrictions - all people who buy from a licensed dealer has to complete a nationwide background check that includes things like court ordered psychiatric stays, certain misdemeanor crimes of a violent nature towards a spouse or significant other, and felonies of any type obviously.
Even if they don't buy from a licensed dealer, it is STILL illegal for those people listed above to own or acquire a firearm.
Furthermore, some states have even stricter laws regarding ownership and safe storage.
No one in America can own a firearm unrestricted - you're either legal or you're not, and you're only allowed to buy what is currently sold - "new" make military weapons (made after 1985) are completely illegal to own by all private citizens, and ones made prior to 1985 have to have been registered in order to be legal.
Nice try though.
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>>739889472
Also, give the legal or official definition of mass shooting.
> pro tip - you can't, there isn't one
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>>739890656
That is the funniest point I've ever seen one of you dumb hicks try and make.
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>>739890656
I'm pro gun but this is retarded, m8
Just because there isn't a legal definition doesn't mean dozens of people didn't just die
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>>739890326
The M249 is belt fed though primarily, STANAG mags were as a last resort.
I agree on it being underperforming. Need to stick to a larger round, 7.62x51 minimum.
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>>739876179
am poorfag
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>>739890988
just put down pokemans go for a while and get the $400
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AR is cool guy
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>>739891507
what'd you get the Asian made clip?
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>>739891729
usa made magpul from the internets
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bump fo freedumb
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>>739890846
That's because you're a leftist fucktard that tries to lie to prove your point.

>>739890910
Mass murders in 2015 - there was 4. As of 2015, since 1983 there has been a total of 73 mass murders take place in the US.
Mass shootings is a bullshit term with 0 meaning or credence. Media and gun control groups both has portrayed events like a drive by shooting at 1AM in the morning at a gas station near a school as both a school shooting and mass shooting - even though the 2 people present at the station at the time were not shot or injured in any way. When media can attach any definition they want to an event, even one like above and call it a mass shooting, then the public, except dumbasses like >>739890846, stop believing the news.
In legal, official terms a mass murder is 3 or more murders committed in a short period of time usually close in proximity to one another and generally by the same subject(s).
Even with all the shootings each year, the US experiences only 8-10k firearm homicides a year, and that includes the killing of criminals by police and homeowners. Statistically, that is a drop in the bucket compared to a population of over 300 million.
Is gun violence a problem? Sure. But it is usually in big cities and quite a lot in the most firearm restrictive states such as California or New York, and even though people don't want to hear it, statistically overwhelmingly it's black males killing other black males.
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>>739876179
well i have guns, but i don't live in a shit-tier country that starts war with everyone, so there are no need it for selfdefence..
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>>739892563
>he actually believes his country is crime free
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Too worried about killing neighbors to use it for self defense. If I need a long range rifle, I'll use my SKS
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>>739892783
>and he actually doesn't know that world exist outside borders of his country
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>>739893188
>he's trying to justify his retardation and belief his country is crime free
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>>739876179
Because I don't have people threatening me or my home with AR-15s.
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>>739893502
Yet.
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>>739876556
If you can't afford $400 for at least a PSA pistol, you suck at life.
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>>739893559
If I can't buy one, nobody can.
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>>739876179
Because I don't live in a 3rd world country and gun crime is virtually non existent.
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>>739893577
It's probably better to buy a shotgun if you only have 400$
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>>739893686
But muh black market!
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>>739894073
nigger, please.

My $400 PSA Ar Pistol (not including cost of the aimpoint) is just as accurate as any other mil-spec 5.56 rifle. 4 MOA with 62 grain green tip is best MOA.
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>>739876179
Gun show coming up in 2 weeks. I may go buy one.
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>>739894051
>stabbings and raped are through the roof, but thank god we don't have gun crime
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>>739894286
>4 moa
>just as accurate
Lol, good one m8, love the b8, no h8
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>>739894449
Do you not understand the mil's accuracy requirements?

Pro-tip, it ain't 1 MOA.
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>>739894361
>I don't also have a knife.

Never even known anyone that got stabbed. And tbh, I'm a reasonably big guy, rape isn't exactly one of my main concerns.
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>>739894286
It's not about accuracy it's about defending yourself in you home, not only will an ar not reliably stop someone with one shot, it will go through the wall behind the new owner of all your possessions and into your neighbor pat
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>>739894644
That's because the military doesn't use MOA in its firearm scoring for shooting.
>also lying and saying with an AR pistol you're getting 4" diameter groupings at 100 yards consistently
Sure kid. And I'm Batman.
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>>739894741
lol.

You know how I know you've not shot anyone with 5.56?
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>>739894723
>present anecdotal evidence of not knowing anyone who's been stabbed
>believes the country must not have stabbings because of that
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>>739895332
Ok.

I'm not talking about shooting offhand. I'm talking about supported. If you can't pull it off with m855, that's on you.
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I just picked up a G36K in 22lr for target practicing, does that count?
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>>739876179
>Why don't you own an AR-15
because i'm not a school shooter.

>for self-defense
my ass it is. so someone tries robbing you, you run home, open the safe, get the gun, load it, run back, and shoot the robber?

if you've ever needed a rifle in self defense, you should sell all your shit and escape for civilization immediately.
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>>739891507
>>739892229
timestamp
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>>739895644
Safe?

I keep a Colt LE 6920 next to my bed.

My AR pistol is in a small bag in my car.

My G17 is on my person at all times.

The only thing I keep in my safe are range toys.
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>>739895484
>still claiming a sub 10" barrel pistol AR can and does get 4" groupings at 100 yards
You also eat 20 eggs every breakfast and do 1000 setups before waking up in the morning?
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Because I live in Norway, and if some nigger come fucking with us we got Putin coming to help us.
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>>739895847
boy i bet you only own a nerf gun fuck outta here with that fake bs
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>>739895847
you should join the other refugees and seek asylum in germany. then you won't have to fear the local isis barging in your door.
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>>739876179
is a arx 160 any good? thinking about getting one
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>>739895782
ok, let me go back in time to when i took the pics, brb.
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>>739882859
where's the laser??
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>>739892984
even though AR is more accurate at long ranges and can easily mount a scope on it?
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>>739896279
Child, I'm 38 and a successful blue collar schmoe. I own what I say I own, and give only enough fucks to spread the gospel of Eugene Stoner.
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>>739896293
I spent 6 long years in Germany as an American soldier. While I loved the beer and strip clubs, the lack of 1A and 2A rights made me kiss the tarmac when I got home.
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>>739897541
this nigga only owns a nerf gun lmao
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>>739894359
should do some shopping around (fun stores, internet) beforehand for pricea and features you need/want. buyer's remorse sucks when you come home only find out you paid too much
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>>739897046
>cause you cant take pics with them again

fake and gay
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Because I enjoy my SCAR and P 90 much more. The M 4 was ok for my time in the Army, but just not what I would consider top of the line
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Because I live in California
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>>739897638
Amen. Was in 1-1 CAV Budigen Germany here. Where were you
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>>739876179

>not having a Rifle Dynamics 710P SBR with a suppressor and folding stock

The fuck is wrong with you OP? AK > AR-15
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>>739897921
0/10
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>>739898336
kinda like your girlfriend lmao
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hold up, this might not have anything to do wiht the thread
but i saw the barnacles thing and it got me thinking

if barnacles is a swear word in spongebob, does that make barnacle boy a fuckboy?
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>>739898531
nah, she's at least a .5
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>>739876179
Can't afford one. If you want to give me one of yours I'll take it.
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>>739898295
1-6 INF Baumholder
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>>739897638
so not having a cock-shaped, deadly shrapnel flinger in your hands for a few hours a week when went drinking was enough for you to fear for your life? how are american soldiers such cowards?
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>>739897680
Here are my safe-bound "nerf guns."
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>>739898896
I fear nothing.

You know why?

Because 2A.
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what does it feel like to live in a shithole where you are so scared of your fellow citizens you feel the need to own an assault rifle KEK
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>>739897638
THIS
People who've never traveled abroad have never experienced a police officer chasing you down thinking you're seig heil-ing for jaywalking and trying to wave to your friend.

I rolled around in my lawn when I got back...
Fuck Germany, it's the coolest european country but that's like having the nicest whore house in the county.
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>>739876179
I would love to but im a poor anon


I have a .22 rifle
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>>739899188
I use my guns mostly to turn money into noise.

How does it feel to have laws enacted by your "betters" that prohibit you from pretty much anything other than fucking another man in the ass?
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>>739899290
.22 is better than a sharp stick.
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>>739899121
that's what i'm talking about. you need a gun to not be scared. coward.
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>>739899290
what kind of 22?
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>>739891729
>Clip

GET OUT
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O
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>>739899345
good you are one of the seemingly minority who view firearms how the should be ie entertainment, but a shit load of your countrymen are rabid fanatical tampon eaters
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>>739885547
You really should read up on .223/5.56 ballistics and how the round react when contacting soft tissue. It's designed to fragment, most likely it would break apart and stop in the wall behind the target.
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>>739885547

.556 round does not have nearly that much power dude. You'd be lucky to make a dent on the first wall.

-Love, an M4 Firing soldier.
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>>739899024
timestamp nigger you know the rules
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>>739899391
This.
IF you don't kill them, they'll wish they were dead for the two or three days it takes for the shock to set in assuming they don't go to the hospital and get caught because they're the only fucker with 20 rounds of .22 peppered all around his abdomen and embedded between his ribs and lungs.
Pain, anon, pain.
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>>739899541
Im not sure got its a Christmas gift
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I'm good.
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>>739899438
Ok.

You must live in a all-white, all rich utopia.
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>>739899024
I demand you organize that mess!
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>>739899935
tis a fucking mess
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>>739899598
Go check out the box of truth. 5.56 does well against flesh, but is stopped by drywall.
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>>739899188
Well, I'm not afraid of my countrymen because I have an assault rifle, if that's any attestation.
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>>739899838
bolt action? semi auto?
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>>739899781
Not gonna take another pic. Sorry for forgetting the "rules."
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>>739899925
i live in civilization. what country do you live in? sounds like a war torn shit hole.
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>>739899935
Meh. Those things are lucky to have a safe at this point. I used to just keep them in the closet until I put a baby in my wife.
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>>739900067
thats what i thought fake and gay
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>>739877115
This.

>>739876708
MODS!!!
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>>739900010
Wanna bet your life on it?
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>>739900145
I live in a semi-rual part of America that has been affected by opioids, niggers, and mexicans.
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>>739900194
I have already.

Have you?
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>>739888011
>No, believing headshots are normal and easy to get in actual self defense situations.
I agree there is far too much of this.
Don't aim for the head you're going to shoot off the top part of their shoulder at best. then they'll kill you.

magdump inna chest indiscriminately, it's the only way.

Headshots are for marksmen at 100-500 yards.
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>>739877115
>>739876708
It is if you don't intend to do anything to it once you've bought it, ie you're poor and want a big capacity salt rifle.
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>>739900358
AHHHHHHHHH this faggot doesnt play COD your a joke.
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>>739900245
>>739900145
Yeah the US is unfathomably big to a lot of people who are used to European countrys.
Dude it's like the size of all of europe including the russian shitty part.
About the same percentage is shit as makes up the slavic part of europe, notice how all those guys have AKs and shit? You don't get to live if you're a limp willy.
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>>739878496
But can you shot a target accurately from a couple hundred meters you fucking edge lord. Its popular because it works well in most situations. You buy a Camry because its affordable, reliable and cheap. You buy a motorcycle to differentiate and consistently lose.
Sometimes its acceptable to buy into norms and this is one if those times.
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>>739900245
it's also affected by gun-toting paranoid, racist rednecks (that's you).
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>>739876179
Hasn't the liberals banned guns yet?
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>>739900894
Id rather have gun toting paranoid rednecks who don't steal than opiated niggers who do.
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>>739876179
Guns are for pussies. Real men go melee. nb4 that dumbass argument "say that to my .50 Desert Eagle while I shoot you in the face" blah blah blah. You're only proving how much of a pussy you are.
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>>739900716
there's no part of europe where everybody runs around with ak's. you're thinking of the middle east. it's completely different.
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>>739900894
lol.

Ok kid. You obviously are sheltered beyond belief.
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>>739901017
well, rednecks tend to shoot up random shit because they think it's run by illuminati or reptilians or something. you're just inches away from cracking. we both know it.
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Every time I see a Ar-15, I want to throw them into a smelter.
Worst ergonomic gun in existence. Only pure "tactically awesome!" advertising gets them sold.
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Because they're poopy and can't take abuse or neglect. Your car, your gun, and your woman should be able to function with minimal maintenance.

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>>739901088
>He doesn't know Ukraine is in Europe
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>>739901205
or as the rest of the world calls it: i live in civilization. not some war torn pile of garbage.
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>>739878430
>Tactical musket
That's pretty rad
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>>739889861
Polack passing thru, muslim free zone and I have an old as fuck CETME from my spanish granpa.
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>>739901338
it's a fucking country at war with the largest country on the planet.

so, usa is in the same condition as a country that's destroyed by war. it doesn't really speak well of usa.
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>>739876179
Because I don't suck the cock of Eugene Stoner's ghost
He was a fraud and a corporate cronyist that gave sub standard weapons to American troops to make a buck

you dishonor the soldiers murdered for his greed by purchasing his goods.

M14 all the way
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>>739901380
where do you live?
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Black Lives Matter riots have become rampant in your area.
A group of niggers have broken into your home and attempts to rape your family.
What do you do?

A) call the police
B) grab your gun
C) scream for help
D) run away
E) fight them
F) beg for mercy
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>>739901504
That doesn't change the fact it's in Europe, anon.

And we share a border with Mexico, don't blame me for that, those fucking french faggot didn't finish his shit before we bankrupted him and we only got as far south as the Rio Grande. The south has guns because Narcos are fucking scary and the guns make them just as scared of us sort of.
At least they know they can't just bag some street peasant because he might dome Javi and shoot Miguel in the back
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>>739880233
Wow. This is some severe autism, even for 4chan.
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>>739901683
Honestly? ABE


Seewhatididthar
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>>739901742
No it isn't. Do you even realize what site you're on? Even if this actually happened(extremely unlikely) it's meh-tier autism at best.
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>>739876179
Because shotgun is better for home defense
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>>739901731
You're missing the point that USA hasn't been attacked by anyone, yet it's still as wrecked as a country that has just been attack by the largest country on earth.

Maybe it's time to put down the guns and start repairing the shit that you've destroyed instead of blaming "the brown people". The fact that you're running around with military weaponry suggests to me that you're a violent criminal who's exactly the type of person who's responsible for the condition your country is in.
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>>739901888
I'd rather have a 9mm carbine for HD.
Short and light, some hot 9mmJHP.
A genuine niggerslayer
>I came
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>>739902030
What is your definition of "hasn't been attacked by anyone?"

Are you discounting 9/11? How about the literal countless attacks by so-called "self-radicalized" muslims?

And, obviously, you're ignoring the thousands of attacks by felons on non-felons that occur yearly in this country.
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>>739902030
>hasnt been attacked by anyone

Arguably Mexico through their rampant corruption and unwillingness to remove narco.
A large portion of crime is caused by drugs and the subsequent withdrawing addict going nanners and robbing/killing/whatever their meth psychosis gives them the urge to do.
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>>739902060
OR you could get a carbine in something better than 9mm...
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>>739902717
PCCs are good, assuming you've got the barrel length to get good velocity. I'm partial to a 10.5" in an AR platform with glock mags, myself.
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>>739876179
because guns aren't allowed on campus
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>>739902941
Concealed means concealed.
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>>739902270
>unwillingness to remove narco
that's because you keep buying. your "war on drugs" (and war on everything you don't like) is a massive failure that only props up drug cartels.

btw, don't you live in a "free" country? why would you intentionally live in drug cartel central and be in constant shootouts with the mafia?

btw, i realize none of this is your daily life, i'm being extremely sarcastic. irl you've never needed any of your guns, you just like to pretend you need them because you're scared of brown people.
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>>739876179
Because I prefer Yugo AK varients, so it's the M90NP for me.
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>>739902877
i know, just saying that imo id rather have one chambered in 40sw or 45 than 9mm.
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>>739903205
Take a look at the FBI violent crime stats. You'd be cautious around browns, too.
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>>739903020
how would he conceal an AR?
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>>739876179
What good is an AR-15 when the enemy is attacking you psychologically?
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>>739903473
I use a tennis racquet bag for my AR pistol.
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>>739876179
i remember this NOT being the safest BEST BURGER computer!
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>>739903590
lol why not just in a backpack, much less suspicious
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>>739903422
in crime ridden areas maybe.
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>>739876179
i remember this NOT being the safest BEST BURGER computer!
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>>739903020
yeah ok buddy i'm gonna risk being kicked out of a college i worked my ass off to get into because of a gun fetish. sounds like a plan.
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>>739876179
i remember this NOT being the safest BEST BURGER computer!
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>>739876179
>AR-15

Waste of money
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>>739876708

They are both shit.
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In switzerland joining the army is mandatory for every men, and this include owning a fass 90.
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>>739876179
i remember this NOT being the safest BEST BURGER computer!
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>>739876179
i remember this NOT being the safest BEST BURGER computer!
>>
>>739876179
i remember this NOT being the safest BEST BURGER computer!
>>
>>739876179
i remember this NOT being the safest BEST BURGER computer!
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>>739882673
>being this new

oh that's right, this is /b/
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>>739876179
Because i don't live in a fucked up country that requires me to have guns you faggot.
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>>739876179
Because I'm not gay
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>>739907952
>>739907877
OP is biggest faggot.
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>>739891729
That's a magazine, faggot.
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>>739901683
what ever i am closet to I use, phone? call 911, gun? I wave it around and pop off a few, if they are the closest, then fist fight, if other people are near, i get their attention by screaming, if nothing is worth saving and i could, id just run away.

life is not a chose your own adventure book.
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>>739876179
Protect my family from what? I live in the middle class neighborhood with crime so low they send the rookie cops here.
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>>739876179
Because I have an 870, which is better for home protection than an AR 15.

I do want one, but it would strictly be for fun.
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>>739876179
>AR-15
>not MSBS
>>
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Cause 556/223 is a poodle shooting round.
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>>739880233
you are a fucking retard
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>>739885547
Like others said, it's not nearly that much power. High velocity, but low momentum. Also, get some frangible rounds.
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>>739909921

They're both right. It's asinine to punish the many for the actions of a few whether they're gun owners or muslims
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Because i want an an-94. It fires two bullets right on top of one another with almost 0 time for recoil between the two rounds. They hit the target at nearly the same time and possibly penetrate high level body armor.

The AR-15 is shit
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>>739900823
Its true. Whether we like it or not the AR platform has become the american standard. You'd be a fool to not at least own one especially when shtf.
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>>739910413
Good luck aquiring one, and then good luck keeping it clean.
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>>739902717
Idk... There's somwthing sexy about carbines in common pistol calibers. Ive been wanting a rifle in .40 for kicks for a while. I think the sub 2000 is the only option though.
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>>739903544
To shoot him in his whore mouth.
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>>739876179
i dont own a ar 15 because guns are illegal in my country. i wish i had one so i could shoot down the many muslims who infested our nation.
whenever i go into a bus there is maybe 1 or 2 danish people there rest are black brown yellow and i feel like an immigrant in my own country.
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>>739910413
Yeah assuming it works reliably... that's why it hasn't been adopted... that and its too fucking expensive
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>>739876179
long-pipe lyfe. mfw i wouldn't want to search bathroomstalls with that thing
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>>739909958
Ballistically the proper hallowpoint 556 is better for home defense than a shotgun. 556 is so light and with a hollow point it will just tumble and lose energy when it hits dry wall and lose energy .. won't worry about over penetration. Buckshot on the other hand will keep going. And forget about the whole "you don't have to aim" bullshit. The grouping of the shot is still small at any reasonable home defense range. An ar15 Has less recoil and can legally be shorter. way easier to handle than a 12 gauge
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