Why is America such a fucking shit hole? Retarded people thriving

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Mrw I'm living an alright life in the US but people from other countries keep telling me it's actually shitty and I should feel bad for some reason

>>739864290
BTW I'm a lion irl, that's why I used that pic

>>739864290
It's completely fine that you have a nice life. But why are you people so gullible and straight down stupid? Actually, I know the answer for that. Education. 90% of you lack it completely.

>>739863931
You're posting this cause the Euro thread got deleted aren't you?

The only bad part about the US is that it's infested with niggers and other shitskins

The worst sin American ever committed?

Not giving a fuck about Europe. So we have all these whiny threads from whiny attentions in whiny attention whore countries who hate that they're irrelevant.

>>739863931
Liberals, illegals, and niggers

>>739864924
The reason for that is
>>739865886

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Eurocuck detected
>Enjoy your refugees

>>739864924
>answered your own question
Okay, am i good to go then? Pretty sure we're done here then

Also, if you ask me, theres a big margin of error here. Lots of people in the U.S., not everyone strives to be Einstien.

But i personally wouldnt complain. We do have alot of freedoms here that most countries dont. I know that not every country is the same and that every place has its differences in one way or the other.

Pretty livable here in the U.S., its just that if i had a better choice, id be there right now. You know what i mean, anon?

>>739865577
Actually the IRL bad thing about the US is that it is infested with hateful people like you

>>739866456
Well, he's not wrong.

>>739865886
This is the only true answer but anybody who makes "lol America is so shitty and stupid" is a lib or a Muzzy.

>>739865813
Europe preaches tolerance, isn't tolerant towards America

>>739866831
Pretty much intolerant to anyone even slightly right wing... unless they're Muslim of course, then they just don't know better!

>>739863931
Everytime I talk with someone who travelled to USA, they always tell me people is exactly as you see them on the movies.
Don't know if its that totally true but guess it must be a pain in the ass for nice/coherent USA people that lives there.

>>739863931
>>739863931
>>739863931

its the greatest country on earth. to answer you question even tho your to stupid to understand is americans have been under psychological oppression for almost 7 decades, how ever thanks to god emperor Trump and the american people thats starting to change.

>>739866992
Its as bad as it is in the movies, yes. Its not an uninhabitable place to say the least but the people arent out to get you, theyre just either dumb or angry and if you get shot or robbed chances are theyre not helping you, either. You have to be really dependent and on your toes more often than not. It changes you and you adapt to it. Id say its kind of a mild thing to complain about.

>>739867078
Stop. I dont want the shills coming in here and posting. That shit gets annoying, even if you are in fact trolling.

>>739863931
Well our government kind of fucked everything up.

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>>739863931
Fiscally smart Americans have 0-1 child to be able to have a good quality of life. People who are less intelligent/don't work have multiple children to get more money from the government. This system is dumbing down America, Each generation we have lower IQ/less work ethic. Those people will always vote for the party that promises them more benefits. This has been designed.

>>739867400
ignorance will get you killed lefty. go bash on ppl how support the presenter some more you fucking commie

>>739867578
designed to what end?

>>739867509
Started bombing everything, and decided to fuck us over for money. Can't really learn much when 12 years of our education is state ran, yet they don't maintenance it at all. Talk to our elites, not us.

>>739867672
Bro, chill, I'm on your side. I'm just saying I don't want Hillary shills in here. They're fucking annoying.

>>739868007
Also, propaganda and journalist persecution are an every day thing here.

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>>739867912
To increase political power to liberals, letting them implement their SJW utopia. Which won't work, and it will all burn to the ground. Good times.

So we lost the cold war after all

>>739868343
Then there's the fact that 150,000,000 of us are in poverty, while around 100,000 own half of everything here. They're the parasites, not us.

>>739868618
Ya, lets steal their money. We won't waste it or nuffin.

>>739868618
>people have more money than me. That makes me sad.
A lot of people busted their asses for their money. Is not their fault if you didn't/can't.

>>739868742
Like how the government steals your money and gives it to them via corporate welfare?

>>739869118
I agree. Lets end all welfare.

>>739868962
Paris Hilton's a perfect example of why you make no since. They inherit it from daddy kinda like trump did.

>>739869170
Exactly, and dont forget bail outs for wall street when they fucked us in the first place. That bail out was also your money.

OP here.

And what really makes you bow to these parasites. Again. There are 150,000,000 of you against 100,000 of them. And you're all tired of their bull crap.

I'm not saying anything else, than that they as the whole are only creating problems for you. They decide to bomb someone, people get hurt and your people pay for their sadistic plans.

And then you argue about the two most dumbest of elderly persons I've ever met in my entire life, about which one should lead you. Left and right, black and white. There's nothing else to you is there. Only extremes.

I mean wow. Don't get me wrong, but are you stupid, careless, mad, hypnotized or what?

Could you all just calm the fuck down and listen to how stupid you all sound? Like you knew everything. Yet you still can't figure a sociopath from the every day guy. You don't even understand psychology on that level. I mean, fuck, they're both fucking messed up. Creations of your corporate society.

Not to mention violent activists for what ever the fuck reason, constant gang wars, the mafia buying politicians, the list goes on and on. Why do you keep running it, when you could just stop?

Because I think none of you want fucking court ordered murder, like it goes in the real world. I think none of you told your politicians to go and bomb some shit. So why do you keep these people in those positions, though they've only caused chaos so far?

>>739868446
Having more kids doesn't mean shit, lad. There's no reason why any child in this country should struggle getting a proper education.

>>739865577
This.

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All the things Americans have created:

let's start with that computer you're typing on
- the software that drives it
- the internet & nearly all web applications
- recorded music
- motion pictures
- tv
- radio
- camera
- telephone
- light bulb
- the automobile
- rocketry
- satellites
- spacecraft
- airplanes
- skyscrapers
- telescope
- printing press
- eyeglasses
- contact lenses
- microwave oven
- metallurgy (most discoveries)
- materials science (plastics, compounds, & most other synthetics)
- 95% of medical advancements
- 95% of life saving pharmaceutical drugs
- modern food preservatives
- most scientific breakthroughs over the past 1000 years
- the bulk of mathematics, physics, chemistry, and biology
- astronomy (most discoveries and mapping techniques)
- sea navigation (most advancements)
- discovery of DNA
- microscope
- laser technology and it's myriad of uses
- harnessing electricity
- nuclear energy
- wireless technology
- air conditioning devices
- refrigeration
- modern agricultural techniques
- modern democracy
- modern capitalism (the greatest wealth distribution system ever, yes, even with all it's faults)

America is the supreme country! Post this in every thread! Spread the Word!

>>739869566
Point is i dont care about rich people and big business, in fact i love it. Im sick and fucking tired of the government and their corporations skull fucking all of us just for more money when they have plenty, that's all.

California is ok, if you can make a living far away from the big cities.
but the thing that you don't get a proper education and a proper healthcare is stressing at least.

>>739870065
I see what you did there

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>>739869331
I think she is an idiot. We should take her daddy's money for the greater good instead right? I am sure when you have money and want to give it to your children you will feel the same.

>>739870065
you forgot hot water, hot water is the bestest all-american invention

>>739863931
bcuz fat people

>>739870065
We would have still made that stuff if we were a communist nation.

>>739870316
>abridged

Did you mean, "completely made up"?

>>739863931
https://youtu.be/2IPVLQiK2ps

>>739870316
So dont pick yourself up by your boot straps?

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>>739870017
Hey I see you have feelings. That's awesome! Nowhere did I say fuck little kids. I said Intelligent people that are fiscally responsible have less kids. Get your shit together.

You are nothing but slaves in that case. Serving your master. You need to stop listening to your politicians and stop watching the news. You need to start working together as a whole and get rid of the corruption and filth around you. The government, the corporations, the law enforcement, these all partly work for the people that keep you on a leash. Same thing in China and Russia. Don't take me as a lefty or a commie, I don't speak bullshit.

>>739870316
Oh, and op, radicals like this are another problem we have.

>>739870316
So you should have whatever you want without working for it? How very Marxist of you, anon. :)

>>739870698
Someone wanting to keep the fruits of their labor and have the government leave them alone is a radical?

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>>739863931
>C
>A
>P
>I
>T
>A
>L
>I
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>>739863931

dem jews

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>>739870891
> Relevant for all the bootlickers being cucked by Trump

>>739870826
option 1: Father works hard, shares wealth with kids he loves.

Option 2: Father works hard, state takes his money.

which one is Marxist?

>>739870900
> Dem conspiracy theorists

>>739863931
>be fat fucking american
>350 pounds
>eat 50 cheeseburgers every fucking day
>need job to buy more dirty ass mcdonalds
>decide i want to be murder people who look at me wrong
>become cop
>couple years after training
>some faggot ass nigger is minding his own business
>i yell at him to get on the ground
>he complies
>I shoot him 50 times
>he survives
>"Why did you shoot me?"
>"I dont know"
>other cops come and arrest the nigger
>i get paid vacation so the media pisses off
>get a raise
praise america

>>739870891
Yeah communism was so much better. In that case, everyone gets to be equally poor! Except the dictators don't talk bad about them or to the gulag you go you poor piece of shit.

>>739863931
You are talking about a small but vocal percentage and using it to represent the whole. You're a fool.

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>>739870988
Neither, the means of production should be owned by the workers.
> False dichotomy

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>>739871020
This.

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>>739864924
>Education. 90% of you lack it completely.
Share your source for this information please.

>>739870836
You automatically conflated me with a Marxist, yes, you've drank the kool-aid. Also what labor? OP, this is the propaganda i mentioned.

>>739871139
Yeah man, we got a huge nigger issue here.

Everywhere they swarm in deteriorates and decays.

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>>739871075
I own a business. Worked my ass off to get it where it is. I should just turn it over to the tards that live in their mom's basement and only come out for Antifa rallies? Fuck right off.

>>739871139
Is funny you post a city that has been under liberal control forever.

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>>739871111
> Except capitalism is based on unsustainable exploitation of workers' labour and natural resources eventually you run out of those. Either through over indebting the poor or killing the earth.

> Socialism advocates workers owning the means of production. I.E. They own 100% of what they produce instead of doing all the work whilst Boss-man reaps 99% of the rewards.

>>739871139
I like it. Now do one for Soviet Cities. I'm sure they were utopias.

>>739870610
Lad, you said the kids born into the families you described are "dumbing down" America.

Rather than bitching at the few that abuse systems, try helping out those that actually need the help.

>>739871020
Automatically conflating any system other than an anarcho-market as communism, you've also bought into propaganda.

>>739871139
Ever heard of creative destruction? Refusing to throw money at shit that's failed is why capitalism works.

>>739871364
>capitalism is based on unsustainable exploitation of workers
That is why you choose not to work?

>>739871440
Do tell then, what ideology will bring the entire world out of poverty?

>>739871048
I mean of course I realize the fact that there are people that make actually sense there, too. But doesn't it ring any bells, if your whole culture thrives for idiocracy, easiness and laid back life?

I am not saying this on the principles, that hard work shouldn't pay. I'm saying that hard work doesn't pay. The government takes off people's properties due to some bullshit laws, though they may have worked hard all their life. But just because that hard work didn't pay, the family couldn't pay the mortgage, the kids didn't get to go to school and ended up living in the streets.

Perhaps this story has grown so old for you that you all stopped caring. But we're talking real life here, not movies. And it is time to make things right. It's time to fix things.

And even the most intelligent of you should still remember the darn fact, that we are all fools. But being a fool doesn't mean you shouldn't stop trying to be one

.>>739871075
Fucking this.

>>739871364
Yeah i cant take your side on this, bud. If you hate your job, quit and go fishing instead.

>>739871572
Bernie Sanders, of course. For someone who's never had a real job, he really knows a lot about work.

>>739871572
Socialism of course. It has proven to work when done correctly.

>>739871674
> it has proven to work
Cite.

you are all gay shut the fuck up faggots

>>739871674
That's lovely... problem is human nature is a thing, and the people in power have almost always abused the ever living fuck out of the system to their own benefit.

If you point to places like Scandinavia, that's not pure socialism but a mix of capitalism and socialism. Those countries do great and their citizens live good lives... while a majority of the rest of the world is still exploited for their benefit.

>>739871673
>>739871674
Wrong and wrong again. You can't lay all of your thoughts on a single guy or an ideology that has proven to be faulty.

As I stated in my original post, learn to fucking adapt. At this point it's obvious that American culture is a complete mess. But with all the hatred your people have spread, just for feeling a little down themselves, it just sickens me.

Bowing down, like fools.

>>739871813
Ya, they have it made. Small population, tons of resources. Is easy to pay for everything. Would be that great in America. Too many people.

>>739871979
>Learn to adapt.
What is the answer then anon?

>>739863931
The thing is is that we're so okay with being us and know we can force our will upon anyone at anytime that we allow ourselves to be retarded from time to time.

I'm american by birth, but it's not my fault. We have a gorgeous country, but filled with too many uneducated inbreds. Thanks to the internet, everyone has a voice now. It's really hard to take this cheeto dick ass clown president of ours seriously, when he's just a social media tool/whore. I wish I could influence a cesspool of retards anytime I took a dump and had something to say on twitter. Jesus butt fucking Christ.

>>739871979
No, no. You really should listen to Bernie. The fact that he has no experience and can't explain how anything will work doesn't mean he's not really wise.

>>739871813
>>739871998
Except that I am witnessing how the bees are dying here. They got smaller and smaller, now they're becoming so small that they can't survive the winter. Every year I pray for some higher power that they would come back next year.

You think we have it made here? Especially when even our leaders are enforcing your culture to do the exact same thing.

We're just withering away here, slowly. You seriously fucking think we have it made? Nah man. Everything we built will be pretty much meaningless soon.

And as your culture has spread here, so has all the gullibility and ignorance, too.

Right next door big brother Russia plays the flute, or rather piano. And our scared little rabbits dance either to that, or the American freedom that doesn't understand the concept of responsibility.

This is just pure chaos, nothing more.

>>739871586
I think you should take a look at yourself. You're filled with some of the same qualities that you're saying Americans have. You're spewing false Info, blanket statements, and exaggerations. Not to mention insults (great to use if you're trying to make a point)

I really think all the claims you're making is based of a few things you saw on the news or internet that you didn't like.

Here in the US we are touching on full employment. Do you know what that means? That means just about everyone who wants/needs a job, has one. And more and more millennials who already have jobs here in the US have a second job that's usually for passion or future career goals.

Second job source http://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2017/04/06/side-hustle-gig-economy

>>739872706
Also our unemployment is around 4% of the population.

>>739871572
Social democracy would probably be the best guess. About 50% socialism, 50% capitalism. Scadinavia, and japan are pretty good examples of this. Strong borders, job protectionism, economic opportunity, pure social freedom as long as you dont hurt anyone, pure economic freedom as long as you dont hurt anyone. Stuff like that. We used to have a system similar to this back in the 50's and 60's. Immigration was under control, and if business wanted cheap labor overseas they would have to leave the country with their business or be fined. I believe it was called the American golden age. Plus i'm honestly only worried about the U.S., the rest of the world can suck it.

>>739872915
I can agree with that since you want to help your nation's people. I only have a gripe with the people complaining that capitalism in any form is the devil despite the fact that many poor people in capitalist countries have way more fucking resources and freedoms than those of pure communist states.

>>739872915
What % socialism do you believe America currently is?

>>739872706
I don't care shit about if someone's "doing a job". Who's he doing for it? What's he doing? Why does he do it? How much does he get paid? And if you can't answer every single question about that ring you are in that I might have, I suspect you should probably check on such things first.

You're all voting with your wallets. I don't care who keeps on the puppet show on the telly, the reality is that you are voting with your wallets. Wake the fuck up.

>>739872915
You do know that "socialism" means "government controls the means of production"?

So 50% socialism. Which companies do you think the government should own? Apple? General Motors? Facebook? Pick half.

>>739873093
No, friend. I understand full well capitalism can be good: planes, cars, phones, tv's, refrigerators and the Internet are all thanks to capitalism. But pure capitalism is bad, go look into those people who died in that tower fire in England because the contractors wanted to cut corners.

>>739873506
None but public roads and public protection is nice.

>>739863931
>refusal to adapt
>literal cultural melting pot

Pick one

>>739873553
So pure capitalism means shitty products? I thought as people vote with their wallet you want to have a good product, or people go elsewhere?

>>739863931
lel stay mad 3rd worlder

>>739863931
You're a good example why people think America is a shithole, OP

>>739873338
Yeah sure, name those rings in your country. If you can't everything you've said here has no merit.

Shitty argument, isn't it?

If we are so shitty, why does everyone want to come here?

I mean it takes people to build weapons to use killing people. It's really simple math.

For instance, we don't usually have such events as school shootings. Though lately, because the politicians have ripped the people apart with lies and alternative truths painted in pretty words, we have seen a rise in depression. And it has lead to many terrible victims, that could have been avoided.

Something that's ordinary on some of your streets. You might have that nice life of yours, but there are people on the streets that deserve better. People who got unlucky at some point, or simply did a mistake, like we all do eventually. The thing just is, that some mistakes aren't so costly, except in the long run.

I think none of you is at least gullible enough to argue about the effects of human caused global warming and the effects at this point. Something we should've looked at a hundred years ago with much interest. Now it's starting to fuck us up.

>>739873652
So cops and transportation. That's not socialism.

>>739873335
We're neither socialist nor capitalist, we're corporatist. Its literally the exact opposite of my system. Mine system takes care of the poor and lets the rich take care of themselves, while corporatism takes care of the rich and ignores the poor.

>>739873899
/thread

>>739874071
Publicly funded so yes it is.

>>739873553
I agree. The type of capitalism where companies like Nestle try and get away with actual slave labor and necessary safety issues are ignored to make .0000001% extra profit.

>>739874161
Why do you think the rich would stand for your system to be implemented? They've got it good right now.

>>739863931
kek. i honestly thought you were talking about the republicans. oh, well...

>>739873959
>I think none of you is at least gullible enough to not agree with me.

I'm still waiting on concrete evidence that global warming is caused by humans and not just coming out of an ice age. If you have any proofs, please share.

>>739864361
is that why you wrote "mrw" instead of "mfw"? like in "my roar when"?

>>739873753
People also lie and trick. Anarcho-capitalists say that businesses that screw people over will go out of service, but they dont care because theyve already made millions. Plus that doesn't address the victims.

>>739873553
No, that's a failure on the part of the government. You're blaming "pure capitalism" (which is usually code for "businesses") for a regulatory failure.

Capitalism requires entrepreneurs AND regulators to ensure fair competition. Talking about a capitalism where regulators don't exist is nonsense, just like talking about "pure communism" is nonsense. Neither has ever, or can ever, exist.

>>739863931
>Why is America such a fucking shit hole?

1. Jews imported niggers
2. Jews have corrupted the US economy
3. The "Federal" Reserve system is chock full of Jews
4. The IRS is like theUS version of the KGB

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>>739864361
I asked if you were Alliance.

>>739874576
People do stop using business that put out shitty products, and word gets around. Look at CNN.

>>739874674
>I need meds

obviously anon

>>739874674
/thread

>>739874766
faggot

>>739865954
lol. norwegian here. we have a few thousand refugees the last few years. how many refugees are there in the usa? oh, right, about 123 million.

>>739874224
No, it's not. Socialism is control of the means of production. Unless you're talking about anarchy, which is the most unstable of all forms of government and in every case has collapsed immediately, every possible form of government that's ever been hypothesized has the government providing some services. You can't claim they're all socialist, without throwing the meaning of "socialism" out the window.

>>739863931
We don't have to adapt to shit, asshole.

>>739874793
>123 million.
nigga u high

>>739874271
Yeah or this story i heard about the other day where these pig farmers are spraying pig piss and pig shit on local homes because they didnt want to pay for disposing of it properly.

>>739873836
I can name those rings in my country. I know who run the cartel. And you know what? The police aren't as corrupt over here. We had a cop as a drug cartel boss, the chief of the department, but that's not really common here, you know. This was probably the first case in forever.

Meanwhile, there are those few bad apples in your forces too. Constantly. And while our rings are nothing but thieves, I watch your rings and see only madness and chaos. Gullibility. People taking things on a personal level and getting defensive, while they know they're just fighting common sense.

The SJW's the families that put bleach up their kids ass to cure autism, the red neck country, propaganda, they're all result of the culture you keep thriving for. It's just absolute madness.

>>739874863
>Socialism is control of the means of production.
That's communism you pseudo-intellectual retard.

>>739874787
So, you are a commie against big business, But support the globalist bankers that plot to control the world? Must be hard thinking that way.

>>739875007
no
your just a faggot

>>739875007
>the globalist bankers
mommy says jewhating time is over on the computer for now

>>739875067
Well thought out argument.

>>739875098
I don't hate anyone.

>>739874920
> being this ignorant of basic economic systems
Look it up, anon. We're using words with established meanings.

>>739875121
>muh conspiracy theories are well though out arguments


kek

>>739875153
You should.

>>739875153
Just yourself

we figured that

>>739875155
socialism is not communism you fucking faggot

stop embarrassing yourself

>>739871075
so you're a marxist? you realize that's exactly what marxism is, right?

>>739874920
Actually, you're confusing production with distribution.

>>739870065
All made with the help of immigrants from Europe and other countries, even you. Although apparently they got a point about America's dumb cucks, repub-lie-tardism, Conservatives and especially Trumpnite's.

>>739874481
So you probably never read the news about the little ice cube drifting at the sea, because you were getting high or something. Or then you did and didn't understand it, like a typical Yankee. You thoughtless numb minded fool of a man.

>>739870988
Neither of these are "Marxist" you fucking faggot fuck. Shut up.

>>739864924
>Bill Nye the gender fluid guy
>science says what the researcher wants

>>739875265
Hey, idiot. Just look up the word "socialism" in literally any dictionary or any encyclopedia that's ever been published. I'll wait.

>>739875406
you probably believe the sun orbits the earth faggot

>>739875406
He was a hypocrite on that, wasn't he?

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>>739874880
learned your own history yet?

>>739875430
>durr i know what socialism rilly is
>look it up
Wow you're still responding.

kek

kek

Oh fuck off, Europe will soon be Africa/Asia 2.0

Have from with your Muslim masters. Don't say we didn't tell you so. Hopefully when you beg for our help freeing you from slavery we won't remember this thread and the many other shitty things you Mudslime dick suckers said about us.

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>>739863931

This

>>739875511
Where are you getting the 123 million "refugee" figure you retarded Scandinavian?

>>739863931
You answered your own question. Retards.

>>739875556
>muh islamophobia
>mommee

kek

>>739875524
You're a good example of a troll who isn't just pretending to be stupid

i'll bite

communism doesn't work lads.

these threads are always about pushing for communism in the end, and its always using the moral high ground to pass itself as a logical solution. it fails in application, every damn time.

no matter how "moral" your communism is. its still going to fail on the practical level. i'll just cite every government that has tried.

>>739875686
>durr socialism is communism
>look it up

still kekking trumpfag

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>>739875186
If you think Billionaires like Soros and the Rothschilds are not trying to influence the world, I feel sorry for you. Do some research anon.

>>739875752
You support Trump? No wonder you're so stupid.

>>739875734
wrong thread?
OP is a retarded paranoid xenophobic faggot who sees welfare everywhere
where the fuck are you getting communism out of that?

>>739875556
amercia really his this stupid

you're not afraid of anyone in europe or asia but fear that a degenerate muslim country could take over your country.

>>739875752
If you don't know the difference between socialism and communism, why not learn to read and find out?

>>739875265
>socialism is not communism you fucking faggot
But Communism is socialism right? Hmmm.

>>739874277
Well think of it like this. How good an economy is doing doesn't have anything to do with how much money it has but how well it keeps money flowing. Thats why even though the U.S. Economy dwarfs norway's in terms of sheer size, we've struggled for the past ten years until now while they were booming the entire time. That few of people cant spend that much money no matter how hard they try. The money never gets spent and basically disappears which causes deflation which causes great depressions. They're going to get fucked in the end just as hard as us. The whole point of taxes is to keep money in circulation, that's it.

>>739875808
>muh lack of reading comprehension
>thinks posters who call out trumpfags are trumpfags

kek

>>739875899
I know the difference.

You're still shitposting faggot.

>>739874688
Still doesn't address the people that got fucked.

>>739875920
No. Communism is not socialism, either.

You are both seriously hilarious retards.

why does OP assume he knows exactly how life is for 50 United nation states that span an entire continent with a population of roughly 300 million individuals

>>739875489
The guy is a joke.

>>739875834

just wait as this thread becomes all about communism's role in fixing the failing "west".

>>739875734
Well theoretically Communism is said to be one of the best forms of government. Sadly each government who has tried communism has had a shit leader which ended up doing more bad than good.

>>739875597
The fact that you would use that word proves my point. You're already enslaved. Get used to those mental shackles, it might go a long way to preparing you for the ankle shackles you'll soon find yourselves in.

>>739875934
I might agree with you philosophically, and frankly some of the 1% might also.

But by and large the richest people are conservatives and they would never want some unknown like you trying to carve up their game.
You'd be disappeared anon.

>>739876034
I've got more important pot to smoke anon. Won't be waiting.

>>739875946
> can't even tell when people are making fun of his ad hominems

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>>739875946
Two liberals calling each other Trump supporters. Best thread!

>>739876068
You don't have a point, anon.
You're scared of muslims because you were told it was the right way to think

>>739876019
You just keep repeating that, when you've clearly established you don't know what either word means.

>>739874863
Ignore him. No, anything publicly owned is socialism; anything privately owned is capitalism.

>>739876217
How is that other faggot "liberal?"

He's scared of democratic socialism that much that he thinks it's communism

kek

>>739876267
faggot you put your foot in your mouth so hard no amount of damage control is going to fix it

you are a retard

stop posting

>>739867672
Hate the commies, hate the arabs, hate the russians, turn off your tv brainwashed propaganda swallowing bitch

>>739863931
I know this is pretty much a troll thread, but still. I'm an American by birth, have lived on 3 continents, went to public schools then got undergrad and grad degrees from a globally top-ranked university, have a good job in the US in one of the world's most dynamic cities where I can eat food from practically every country on earth, with some of the top cultural institutions the world has ever created. And you know what? My life is pretty damn good. I'm fluent in 3 languages and work in international relations, so I don't think I'm ignorant. Am I a 'typical' American? I don't believe in the term -- the fact is this country gave me all of these opportunities. My parents weren't even rich -- I just worked hard and got kinda lucky. But the opportunities were still there.

>>739874863
>[socialism] is the most unstable of all forms of government and in every case has collapsed immediately,

you are a retard

stop posting

>>739876017
People always get fucked. Do you think people don't get fucked when it's a government controlled program? Jesus

OP is not baiting my friends, this is what the world thinks about America.

>>739875567
about 123 million (most of the population) are immigrants who murdered the local, real americans. as you need it explained to you so clearly: native americans are the only americans. everyone else are refugees. very violent and murderous refugees who loves rape and murder. these refugees (you) have been waging war and raping and murdering people since they were done exterminating the real americans.

>>739876125
Yeah greed's a mother fucker, aint it? They'll learn though, history is about to repeat itself.

>>739876217
I'm not what the other poster believes. They haven't actually said anything except to deny the standard dictionary definition of socialism. But I did find the claim that anyone who knows what words mean must be a "Trumpfag" to be hilarious.

>>739876019
Communism is a subset of socialism. I can provide many sources if you would like to learn what you are talking about.

>>739876057
>Communism is said to be one of the best forms of government
By commies.

>>739876501
you said "refugees" you fucking stupid faggot

shut up

>>739876311
We haven't actually discussed the merits of anything, retard. I've just been trying to explain what words mean to a 2 year old. Discussing politics would require a slightly higher comprehension level.

>>739863931
You're only going to be alive another eighty years if you're lucky. Have a burger and laugh at stupid videos on youtube. No reason to get all worked up about shit you can't control.

>>739876526
>Communism is a subset of socialism.
no it isn't you retarded fuck

I said stop posting

Don't judge the country by the idiots on the west coast, east coast, or south....

The closer you are to Canada the better.

>>739876364
All you've done is throw insults and say hur dur WRONG. So look in the mirror, retard.

>>739876609
You sound very capable of objectively assessing things. /s

>>739876472
So put forth no effort whatsoever to prevent it is your plan then?

>>739876636
as long as your "definitions" come from the National Review or Fox News enjoy having heaps of shit flicked your way.

>>739870065
You can't be serious ?! Half of your exemples are so wrong !! Automobile ? German, movies ? French... Should i keep going ?

>>739876467
No it hasn't. Look at Venezuela.

>>739876739
Jesus fucking christ stop replying to me

find some other useful idiot to troll

get out

>>739876467
Hey, idiot, I said anarchy was the most unstable of all forms of government. Not socialism.

You really should learn to read.

>>739875734
I am not pushing for communism. If other people are so numb minded, then what the fuck kind of control do I have over it? But the point of my thread is not to give anyone such a foolish idea, that communism is anymore working of a concept than capitalism. They have both proven to be extremely faulty systems. The faults of capitalism, on the other hand, may be lethal on most of us if we don't start acting.

I mean if you are stupid enough not to understand the current situation, that's fine. But if you don't know anything about it, then keep your fool mouth shut. I am sick and tired of explaining things constantly, when you can look the data up yourself at any given time.

At this point after browsing through hundreds of researches on the subject, it would take me literally hours to gather all the data for you. And as you can look it up yourself or can't understand the figures, I have no interest in even speaking to you about the subject any further, since it is nothing but a waste of my time.

Look it up.

>>739876660
You're talking to multiple anons, kektard

>>739876780
Most of Europe is socialist. And it's been pointed out to you that many services here in the US are socialist.

You are a fucking retard.

>>739875848
Speaking about stupid, Asia has the world largest Muslim population asshole. I didn't say any country would take over US and in fact, I mentioned nothing about that. I only spoke of Europe. I didn't even say how you'll be, are being, taken over. Protp: You're leaders are giving your countries away. They will soon outnumber you and if you have any clue as to how they live, you would know exactly how you'll be living should they accomplish their goals.

Also, I said nothing about being afraid.

Some anon with a severe reading comprehension problem calls me stupid, what a joke. Go read a book faggot, clearly you're an ignorant fucker.

>>739876501
Invalid argument. The entire globe has been taken from people again and again through conquest. What country do you live in anon?

>>739876812
> stop replying to me, because I don't have the self-control to stop replying to you
genuine kek

>>739876879
You all sound like the same stupid recovering Republican.

You sound like an uneducated terrorist fuck. Take your CP else where you cow worshipping piece of human garbage. Study a little bit you butt fucking pig raper.

>>739870065
The only supremacy you have is arrongance and army... Goes well together

>>739876526
I guess the whole of the interwebz disagrees with you.

>>739876934
and yet another reply

Dunning Kruger in the fucking house. Dunning Fucking Kruger.

>>739876780
Yeah, im all for social democracy but pure socialism is the world's greatest failure.

>>739876882
>Most of Europe is socialist
That's really funny, anon. Now pick another word, and tell us what it means!

>>739876609
I am actually. I don't see any pro-capitalists thinking communism is better. Do u?

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>>739863931
It's almost the same everywhere.
You'd know that by now if you paid any attention tbh.

>>739877071
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST STOP REPLYING TO ME TRUMPFAG SHITHEAD

YOU'RE A DIPSHIT
FUCK YOU

>>739876994
> blaming others for your lack of self-control
So funny

>>739876754
Sure. Show me a way people can get less fucked. I am all for it.

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>>739863931
>tfw you discover only a tiny minority of ppl in the 60s were actually supportive of the space race and actually thought it was a big waste of money and still do

turns out, this country was always dumb and aggressive and violent. All the big leaps of human progress this country takes credit for, very very few people forced into play.

Culturally, it's still a bunch of Europes worst exiles from the 1500s-1770s, with only a big F U to the king. Otherwise in every way still a pre-war British colony with dreams of world domination and genocidal murder fuckfest.

Reminder that before WWI, 3% of the country had a cognitively demanding job, less than 5% had more than 4 years of school, and everyone else lived on farms and were poor as fuck. The world had a World War and the US was so insignificant, no one even bothered to ask us to be an ally. We didn't even get invited to play, bc all we had were farmboys who couldn't grow shit on the old native farms they were trying to homestead with European crops. Only when the brits started throwing gold bars at the US Gov in exchange for arms and support and spun it as a moral war did those people start to come around, and only with that infusion of cash orders of magnitude greater than the wealth of the country did our industrial revolution, education, & growth take off.

But, the brutalist pre-war culture is passed down from generation to generation regardless.

>>739877071
Most of Europe has publicly owned services.

That's socialism. Sorry you can't handle it.

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>>739876262
No, it's not fear, it's being informed more than the average person.

For example:

Estimated slaves per country with Muslim majority population:
Indonesia 736,100
Pakistan 2,134,900
Bangladesh 1,531,300
Iran 495,300
Turkey 480,300
Egypt 572,900
Algeria 248,300
Morocco 219,700
Iraq 403,800
Sudan 454,700
Saudi Arabia 92,100
Afghanistan 367,600
Uzbekistan 1,236,600
Yemen 303,200
Syria 257,300
Malaysia 128,800
Niger 127,000
Somalia 121,900

Libya 59 terror attacks for 2016, 3 for 2017 so far, 70,900 estimated slaves.
Syria 317 terror attacks for 2016, 80 for 2017 so far, 257,300 estimated slaves.
Iran 3 for 2016, 6 for 2017 so far, but they openly want to kill us, 495,300 estimated slaves.
Sudan 4 for 2016, 4 for 2017 so far, well just look at who rules there and what they do to their own, 454,700 estimated slaves.
Yemen 71 terror attacks for 2016, 19 for 2017, 303,200 estimated slaves.
Somalia 98 terror attacks for 2016, 60 for 2017, 121,900 estimated slaves.

I could keep going. Muslim population majority = slavery and or terrorism everywhere in the world. There are currently 20= million slaves in Muslim Majority countries.

Again, it's not fear, it's knowing the facts. Clearly you don't know shit. Eat shit you ignorant fucking moron.

>>739876939
> someone points out that anon doesn't know the definition of a word
> they must be REPUBLICANS
My sides

>>739876934
I love you guys. :)

>>739877168
Dunning Kruger. You think you're this expert in sociopolitical matters and it's obvious you really aren't but want others to think you are.

>>739877237
>informed more
at Breitbart

kek

>>739876457
That has gotta be the most pretentious thing anyone has ever said to me, considering the current state of your country.

>>739877129
This is so fun.

I don't think I've ever had someone call me a Trumpfag before. It's like you're living on your own little world, where you only know two things: The (wrong) definition of Socialism, and that Trump is bad.

>>739877357
the current state of my country?

>>739877237
>it's knowing the facts
That 1.3 billion Muslims are in fact not trying to kill you, that they lead peaceful lives.

That's really the only fact you should be concerning yourself with

>>739876918
>argument doesn't count if i'm the immigrant
doesn't change the fact that you're a criminal immigrant. whoever i talked to first made fun of europe for being flooded by immigrants, but everyone in the usa is immigrant. they just don't think of themselves as such because they don't know their own history. or any history for that matter.

>>739877282
How does knowing what one word means make me an expert?

Is that your definition of "expert", anon?

>>739877238
Did you vote for Clinton?

No. REPUBLICAN.

>>739876878
>They have both proven to be extremely faulty systems.
True, Though the amount people getting gunned down by their own governments is quit a bit different.

>>739877276
I'm having fun :)

>>739863931
O B S E S S E D

>>739864924
>what is communist infiltration

>>739876939
Who said I was a republican?

>>739877207
At best, it's social democracy. Socialism is a whole 'nother beast.

>>739877370
OK what are you then if you're so scared of socialism that you have to make everyone believe it's communism.

What fucking ideology do you subscribe to, anon?

This should be good.

>>739877436
You are Dunning Kruger. You got your political "knowhow" reading and watching right-wing media and now you think you're qualified to comment on it.

>>739877207
it also have privately owned, which is capitalism. look at that. it's almost if it's a mixture of the best elements from both.

>>739877439
Wow, you just keep topping yourself. You've taken hur dur to a new level.

>>739877207
So does every other first world country that wants things that capitalism fails to provide.

Put your ideology back in your pants and take a weekend and find out how much of your technological lifestyle, from the shit you own to the food you eat to the energy you use to the education you got and the resources you utilize were fucking socialized because it was the only way to get someone to pay for them.

Unless you want to build your own fucking hospital and invent all your own technology in it every time you get drunk and fall off your ten speed into traffic, welcome to a planned political economy.

>>739877429
What is your country? Why you dodging bro?

>>739877488
The kektard knows your political affiliation
> just like he knows what Socialism means

>>739877001
You win a cookie!

>>739876755
Stop trolling the guy. Everyone fucking knows he's a bit simple. Ha ha. Jesus, there are those types of retards, then there are your kind. Both fucking idiots.

>>739877496
You are splitting hairs, anon.
Socialism is merely public ownership of services. It is NOT "controlling the means of production" that is COMMUNISM.

Last time I'm going to set you straight on this. :^)

>>739877370
Oh my god. My sides!

>>739877566
If you did not vote for Clinton you are either flat out a Republican, or a lolbertarian, which is a Recovering Republican about to have a relapse.

>>739877503
I'm not scared of socialism, I just know what the word means. When it comes to politics, I'm largely pragmatic.

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>>739865813
God damn flag burning europeans

>>739877407
Oh yes, the simplistic mental mammary glands you've attached yourself to is what I should aspire to. Just conform to the narrative and keep pretending there is nothing wrong. You mental midget. No thanks lemmings.

I did not say anyone was trying to kill me. You really can't read what is plainly said without adding your voice to it, can you?

Small minds.

I don't even know what that is. >>739877324 Shoo fly.

>>739877173
Simple. If regulated like it was supposed to, an inspector would have found the flammable building material, and no one would have died in that fire. But that doesn't matter because wallets and dollars and such, right?

>>739875920
Sweden is a social democracy, quite far from a communist country, why do americans confuse socialism and communism ? Propaganda

>>739877567
I don't have to do shit. I am working towards a system of democratic socialism like millions of my fellow Americans.

You sound like a holdout from the Boomer Era. Your ideology isn't working, anon.

>>739877660
How am I a "retard" for being an educated person telling another idiot he's talking shit?

Fuck off.

>>739877836
Plenty of Americans know the difference.

>>739877407
Your head cannot fit any deeper up your ass.

>>739877774
No you really don't. You're one of those holdouts from the Nixon Era who thinks socialism=communism and you were told to stfu numerous times. You still haven't done it.
Do it.

>>739877237
We just need to open our hearts and borders. Love will assimilate them.

>>739877657
There better not be any fucking raisins in it.

>>739877849
I don't even have an ideology you fuckin tard, jesus.

No ideologies are working for shit.

>>739877826
I'm sorry facts get in the way for your carefully constructed plans for genocide, anon.

But that's how facts work.

>>739877578
>Why you dodging
i literally told you in my very first comment. go on a treasure hunt. clue: we're on top of the list in wealth equality, general equality, happiness, life quality, etc.

>>739874549
my reaction with, before tumbler reddit and 4chan had a cancer orgy that's what was used

>>739877453
It's fun arguing both sides of an issue in the same thread.

>>739877826
You learned everything about Muslims from stupid right-wing tabloids, anon. Otherwise you wouldn't still be parroting their ridiculously cringing talking points.

>>739878103
when*

>>739877398
I bet you didn't read the thread at all.

>>739877836
Why do you confuse social democracy with socialism?

>>739877963
I'm sorry facts trigger you so, anon. Maybe you should go to Breitbart and find some talking points to hamstring me with

kek

>>739876457
Top ranked uni ? Must have been around 50.000$ a year... Uni is free all over Europe(exept England of course)