>2017 >not a vegan lmao explain yourselves? >get to

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>>739610063

>inb4 no solid arguments by carnivores. Just circular logic, strawmen, ad hominems, red herrings, and cognitive dissonance because they know they are wrong deep down inside.

>>739610063

no scientific studies have shown any of the quantitative claims to be true in your post.

the qualitative namby-pamby animal welfare shit is a valid point but that crap is just like, your opinion man.

/thread

>>739610211
>>739610227
There is literally no reason for animals to be killed you murders, and its a fact that meat causes cancer. You people are delusional

>>739610063
>vegan
>butter
1/10 - made me respond

>>739610407

I don't think you read >>739610211

Dude stop being not good. Be good not bad. Bad is not good. Be good.

>>739610528
Thats vegan butter, better than normal butter since now poor cows were raped and made to suffer just to produce milk and Im not a troll you carnivorus bastard

>>739610553
What are you even on about you retard? Has all the meat given you brain cancer?

>>739610063
I do think we should at least reduce our meat consumption a lot. I see no point in becoming vegan though.

And i'm not doing it because i don't give a fuck and i fcking like tendies

1.- I don't want to live longer and "better".
2.- Maybe I am not as healthy as you but I am sure I am stronger and have better condition than you.
3.- I don't feel any pity or shame about killing animals and I strongly feel human compassion is misplaced if you cry for a cow.
4.- I don't think you're free of deseases just because you eat rabbit food but I agree meat eaters may have more health problems. Still I don't care.
5.- Vegan "meat" doesn't taste like anything close to real meat, that's just false.

There you go pal, keep crying. I won't change my mind.

>>739610832

>Doesn't speak english

>>739610931
Reduce it to zero yes, we have vegan meat the tendies made with them will taste just as good but without the animals suffering

>>739610973
You're just in denial, vegan meat tastes better than real meat. If I were to kill you just for your meat how would you feel?

>>739610063
I'm an omnivore who loves a juicy steak but that meal does look delicious and wholesome.

>>739610063
Literally munching on a burger as I come across this thread.

>>739611222
Actually I am not in denial, I eat all kind of foods since cooking is my passion.
I do vegan meals often too, they are indeed delicious.
But saying that false meat taste better or even the same is delusional.

>If I were to kill you just for your meat how would you feel?

I want to see you try it fag.
Seriously, how this is even an argument?
I told you, I don't feel pity for animals and if you think that you're superior just because you do is beyond retardation.

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>>739610063

>>739610063
One fact that I can be sure of is that I feel no guilt whatsoever going to the store and buying chicken, ground beef etc.

>>739611381
>>739611687
>>739611733
>>739612037
Lmao have fun dying early from cancer

>>739610407
life eats life.

The fact that you people think you're morally better because you only eat certain kinds of life, boggles the mind.

You kill and eat plants, I'll kill and eat animals and plants. You'll cry about how I'm being bad, I'll sit back and laugh at your ignorance of how the world works.

>kek

>>739612418
Have fun living a joyless life of bland rabbit food, faget

>>739612418
lmao have fun dying from lack of vitamins.

If animals are going to be slaughtered reguardless what the fuck does you not eating some do? nothing. nothing changes, all you do is make sure their death was a waste. if anything youre just disrespecting them.

>>739612418
You will die of cancer too dude but while you cry about it I will be having a delicious medium rare steak and a beer.

>>739610063
>>739610063
>>2017
>>not a vegan
>lmao explain yourselves?
>>get to live longer and better
Not scientifically proven.
>>live a more healthier life
Not scientifically proven.
>>no need slaughter innocent animals
Insects aren't animals?
>>live guilt free
Non vegans can be guilt free.
>>no fear of any dieseases
E coli? Influenza? Are you retarded?
>>vegan meat tastes exactlt like normal meat and with any senseless murder of animals
Not yet, it doesn't.
>There is literally no reason to not be a vegan in this day and age
Your logic is as faulty as you are.
>Pic related:A delicious vegan breakfast
I disagree. It looks terrible.

>>739612494
How would you feel if someone killed you just for that reason huh!? Why kill when we dont have to, you're concious will also be less burdened and guilt free

last time i checked even the sun gives you cancer welcome to cancer land fuck it im rolling a cig now too

>>739610063

To begin, you can't be vegan and eat eggs and butter lol

>2017
the year has nothing to do with anything
>not a vegan
yeah no shit, I like to have well balanced meals
>get to live longer and better
you could die tomorrow from a car crash, so could I. also better is subjective. I would argue having an occasional fucking great steak makes my life better than yours
>live a more healthier life
You're missing out on lots of protein and vitamins which is not healthy
>no need slaughter innocent animals
I don't slaughter them, Tyson does lol
>live guilt free
I have no guilt for eating animals
>no fear of any dieseases
right, cuz diseases only come from meat right?
>vegan meat tastes exactlt like normal meat and with any senseless murder of animals
you know it doesn't you fucker, tofurkery can kiss my dick

>>739612579
I drink plenty of fruit juice so no, you on the other hand will die from cancer

http://generationiron.com/bodybuilder-youtube-star-furious-pete-goes-the-second-round-in-cancer-battle/

>>739612728
How would you feel if you were killed for food, and a cow? Oh yeah youre a stupid dead cow.

>>739612895
I gain my proteins from peanuts guilt free

Living in a smaller city, it's kinda hard to find that type products but I'm trying to leave milk for almond milk, I think that is an improvement.

In a year and a half I'm going to move out and I will start getting a little vegan, without being a pretentious asshole.

Deer have to be hunted. Otherwise they overpopulate, eat everything in their environment, and then drop dead in piles.

>>739612728
Again with this bullshit.
I eat meat and I am 100% guilt free.

Animals eat other animals too and if you think we humans are better than that then you are implying animals are inferior to us and they are.

>>739613027
You must eat a SHIT ton of peanuts.

>>739612728
If someone killed me I'd be dead. I wouldn't feel anything. Nor would I care why they did. I'd be dead, dumbass.

>>739610063
I have alot of reas9ns not to be vegan.
1.Not cincerned with how long i live.
2.not concerned with my health really.
3.i dont like most animals so kill them and cook them.
4.i have no guilt torwards what i eat.
5. I have aids,dafuq do i care about other dieases?
6.know what else tastes like normal meat? Normal meat.

>>739611222
I wouldn't feel anything because i'd be dead

>>739613047
It's nut juice.

You know how I know? There's no nut tit!

>>739610063
1: I'm sacrificing the worst years of my life anyway.
Why die at 90 when you can die at 70?

2: Don't care
3: Don't care
4: No guilt as it is.
5: Ebola cares nothing for what Idet I adhere to.
6: Not quite. I've tried it. Not bad but not as good.

>>739612728
I guess i would feel dead because my brain cant register feeling anymore because im dead.

It's going to happen reguardless, you not eating any doesnt help solve the problem at all. I love animals and love so i see where youre coming from but you gotta realize what youre doing does nothing to help anything so how the fuck do you sit there and feel 'non-guilty' and self-richous? Sounds like you just need some pussy, oh wait, thats meat.

>>739613093
No you have guilt on a subconcious level stop being in denial. Veganism must be forced, feels good to know my kids will never be the cause of animal suffering and will live long

>>739610407
I don't care about animals.
I barely care about creatures of my own species, outside my immediate circle of friends/acquaintances.

>>739611222
OK, I'll give it a shot. I'll eat a vegan.

>>739613077
>checked

also they get eaten alive and frozen to death and die of starvation.

A bullet through the lungs and a 10s "what the fuck was that, my chest hurts" then passing out due to bloodloss > wolves tearing your guts out and standing around watching you struggle for hours while you slowly go into shock and die.

>>739610063
We're omnivores, just look at your fucking teeth, they have fangs.

>>739610063
>implying I'll live long enough for my diet to matter
>innocent
>guilt
Also, fuck you for "more healthier". "Healthier" already implies "more", just like "unless" implies "if". People who say "more healthier" and "unless if" need to be sent back to elementary school

>>739613341


read >>739613309

>>739613341
Why do you insist so hard that I feel guilt?
It's seems to me that you're in pain and can't deal with reality. If not eating meat helps you feel better then don't eat it.
Also, seek help, you may need therapy.
Be good man.

>>739613341
>Veganism must be forced

Like feminism and multiculturalism?

>>739610063
If you won't eat meat, where from you would get proteins?
Also
> be a vegan
> life long

>>739610063
Go raw plant based. God-tier diet. Eat one/two meals a day so intermittent fasting benefits as well

>>739613224

Holy shit maybe thats why yesterday I found a hair in my cereal

life is not defined by how long you lived.
btw i eat meat bcuZ is tastier than anyshit ever eated
soy food is like eat shit

>>739613728
If I don't eat my meat, how can I have pudding?

>>739613839
What?

>>739610063
If being vegan is healthy then why do you have to supplement your diet with vitamins?

>>739613839
Clearly the meat has furthered your cognition.

I eat meat. I still live guilt free and without fear of diseases . Hmm.. fuck off faggot. Fucking vegan scum

>>739612494
>calls vegans ignorant
>blatantly ignores the the major differences between plants and animals.
>"b-but your not m-morally superior" haha got em

This is easy.

Check your teeth. Some are flat for grinding plant matter, some are sharp for tearing up meat.

Our bodies are designed to eat both. Meat that is natural is great for the human body, without steroids, antibiotics, estrogen ect.

Both are needed parts of the human diet. Legitimate studies suggest the absence of meat causes quite a few health issues. The studies i refer to are ones not funded by companies that may benefit from skewed results.

We need both, try to only feed a lion tofu. Lions kill innocent animals. See how the lion fairs

>>739614240
2 cups of tea to this goy

>>739613341
Imagine if your kids decides to be a rebel and eat some cow flesh behind your back and you found out. "REEEEEEEEEEE DON'T YOU DARE SHOVE THAT PIECE OF TRASH DOWN YOUR THROAT REEEEEEE POOR COW MURDERED FOR NOTHING"

>>739610063
>vegan meat tastes exactlt like normal meat

HAAAAAAAA HAAAA ha ha ha haaaa haaaa haaa hhhaaaa ha hah he he he he

>>739610063
Red meat tastes so fucking good. And who the hell would wanna live longer anyhow? You vegans are a joke.

>>739611222
I'd feel like a part of my ecosystem. Since animals eat animals. Humans are animals, so it's whatever.

>>739611222
>If I were to kill you just for your meat how would you feel?
If you think the life of a fucking cow is equal to the life of a person then I believe your brain need some more protein, and not from that vegan shit.

Because i like the taste of meat

>>739612494
This is dead on. Exactly right

>>739610063
> live guilt free
For killing a pig? You fucking retard. We make parties when killing pigs. Everyone is happy cause of all those meat, sausages, bloodwurst and that sweet, raw fat. Noone feels any guilt about it, it is meant as food and it will end as food. Just like potatoes. Both are unhealthy, both delicious and I don't give a damn about peeling their skin off.

>>739614525
go fucking kill yourself then
>>739614633
A life is a life, they feel the same pain as us

>>739610063
Where my family is from, meat is a normal dish
Where I live today, vegan food is not cheaper than our industrial food
Poor people have bad food habits because of the income we get
If I was richer, i would probably care about what i eat
When you're poor, hunger is a problem, hunger in your family is the worse problem ever.
When i'll be rich i'll probably turn out vegan tho.

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>>739614444
check my quads you useless faggots

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>>739610211
If I was wrong, I would switch what I eat, you deluded fucking mongoloid.
Being a vegan is about nothing more than inflating one's already inflated self worth. This is why 100% of vegans are the children of well off white suburbanites.
Bunch of cunts, can't stop talking about their eating habits to people uninterested in anything about them.

>>739613027
There are many types of protein the body needs

>>739614763
Plants are also life, anon. And they produce electrical charge when under stress factors.

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>>739610211

Hey I'm vegan too, and for a very specific reason that isn't related to bodily health. But fuck you guys stop acting like queers. I know veganism is king but seriously stfu

>>739610063
>get to live longer and better
False. Vegans tend to die younger especially if they're vegan from a young age due to endocrine issues.

>live a more healthier life
Redundant. Apparently vegans have poor short-term memory. Malnutrition, particularly zinc deficiency, would cause this.

>no need slaughter innocent animals
He said as he puts on his leather shoes.

>live guilt free
Until you kill your children from malnutrition?

>no fear of any dieseases
That's because you have no immune system. So the moment you get a parasite or a virus, it's going to go HAM.
Antibiotics can't take the strep throat out once it gets to your kidneys, trigger.
FYI Those antibiotics are derives from animals and employ animal testing to observe efficacy. There is no modern biomedical technology without animal testing.

>>vegan meat tastes exactlt like normal meat and with any senseless murder of animals
Tofu tastes like nothing. And feels like a gritty flan.
Meat tastes like caramelized sugars and coagulated proteins; good.

>>739613224
Sure there is, it looks like my cock.

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To you peace of mind is being a faggot.
For me is eating like a king.

>>739610063
I've not once eaten a vegan meat that tasted like meat. My gf if vegan, and my mom has been vegan for the past 7 years, so trust me I have experience in this subject.

>>739614444
useless nigger such a waste of quads

Best thing about being "meat eater" is that you can eat vegan food and don't have to make a fuss about it.

>>739613341
Is this a joke?

>>739610063
Guilt? Id wear a kitten as a condom nigga.

>>739614135
>thinking i care about some life more than other life
bahahahaha you're such a literal racist.

>>739615320
Oh shit I feel bad this made me laugh

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>>739615320
So edgy

>>739615375
Dont feel bad. You are on /b/,you are allowed to be fucked up here m8.

>>739613341
this is why nobody takes you people seriously.

>>739615259
choke on a dickburger you useless waste of space

>>739615468
Hiw do you mean edgy? Like tom cruise edgy? George carlin edgy? Chris farley edgy?

A life with out the simple joys of a steak is not really worth living

>>739614240
Ever looked at intestinal length with respect to diet? Humans intestinal length is predictive of a herbivore diet.

>>739615597
14 year old emo edgy.

>>739610063
So you're saying that if a gator eats a deer, it's slaughtering a innocent animal and it should convert to vegan because of guilt? It's literally no different if we shot and killed the same deer to cook it up, stop being a faggot OP

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>>739615647
I'm more for this.

>>739615703
yeah that's why we have 4 stomachs, and all our teeth are flat, and we don't have a gall bladder, and our eyes are on the sides of our heads.

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>>739610063
I'll just leave this here

>>739615799
That hurt my feelings.

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squeeeeeeee

>>739615815
>stop being a faggot OP

Unfortunately, that's an inherited attribute with being a vegan.

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>>739610063
>preaches veganism
>posts picture with butter and feta cheese

Moron

>>739615952
do a linkin park and hang yourself.

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https://youtu.be/bH_2UirZXw0

>>739616189
Can we cuddle first?

>>739616281
depends on whether of not you're going to cry after your anus bleeds.

>>739616281
No I CANT BREATH DONT TURN YOUR BACK ON ME.

>>739612418
Meat is a common meal for a very long time in human history, yet that supposed cancer didn't wipe us out. Our ancestors were just fine (talking in their conditions, not ours). Nowadays everything you do is said to cause cancer, so why should we live anymore?

>>739610407
Your bait also causes cancer, and aids.

>>739610663
Why not eat human milk butter?

>>739614879

Proved my point

>>739616132
That's vegan butter on toast, tofu scramble, and avocado, you autistic fucking nigger

>>739616435
If it's supervised and pasteurized then I don't see the problem

>>739616346
Of course,i was under the impression thats how you liked it.

>>739616357
Cant breath? Use yo dayum lungs

>>739615468
Kik>>739615703
Oh thank you for reminding me!!!!! The human digestive systems lacks the enzymes to break down plant cell walls. We shit out most of the plant. We get less nutrition from plants but feel full just the same. We lose weight but need to replace that nutrition with supplements which are less effective then the real thing.

We WASTE most of all the plants we eat due to a digestive system unable to fully break down the plants. Scientific fact, bitches!

>>739612728
Wouldn't feel anything. Also, if they kill me they deserve to eat my meat.

>>739616484
No it isn't. You just think it is because you grabbed the first thing that showed up on google images for "vegan breakfast" you fat tub of autism.

>>739616530

>don't see the problem

its one step removed from cannibalism, that is the problem.

>>739610063
because meat tastes fucking epic you cunt. fuck off

>>739610063

Vegan = homosexual

>>739616758
Hey man...thats fucked up,homosexuals arent that bad!

>>739616682
Are babies cannibals for drinking human milk? Fucking idiot

>>739616758

fucking pussy is for faggits

>>739616574
>739616574
What do you think fiber is...

>>739610063
>There is literally no reason to not be a vegan in this day and age

We are straight, not homofaggots. Eat meat, its whats for dinner. AND it pisses the gays off. Did I mention that if you are vegan you are a faggot?

>>739616574

^^^ truth, answer that shit vegan fags

>>739616819

you are a faggot

>>739616822
Yeah, but you can't make up a diet of mostly just fiber you dense mother fucker

>>739616816

yes, they are. babies are fuckers. they are self centered and will eat any god damn thing they can put in their mouths. plus, we as a society have been using formula for a long time. sorry your nigger mom breast fed your poor ass until you were 12.

also, babies eat legos. so I guess, since babies do it, eating legos as an adult must be OK.

>>739616805

kek

>>739616574
I am meat eater and I think this is retarded. We need meat cause of substances which are not found in plants. Fibres in plants make you clean from inside so you can shit healthy. Look it up, healthy shit, healthy colon.

>>739610063
>innocent animals
Well, assuming you are talking about how they feel the pain, are you aware the vegetables feel pain too? Studies prove that plants of all types, including most veggies, feel pain. So along that train of thought, you shouldn't be eating vegetables either.

>live longer and better
Yes, the better part is true, but it's confirmed that if you eat meat in moderation, you'll live longer and cause no harm to your body. Plus, steak is fucking delicious and life without it isn't a life worth living at all.

>no fear of diseases
That's not true either, if you eat a vegetable wasn't cleaned well enough a disease that was latched onto the vegetable can relay to you.

>tastes like normal meat and worth buying
You are half-right about that. They taste pretty much the same, except vegan meat is expensive as all hell and some people actually enjoy the juice that is seared into steak that you won't find in a vegan steak.

>live guilt free
You do realize that animals exist for the sole purpose of eating and getting eaten? It's called the food chain. Something you would know about if you hadn't dropped out of middle school.

>live a healthier life
Like I noted earlier, if you eat meat in moderation there are no long term health impacts and you actually live longer.


>conclusion: no reason to not be vegan
Yes, there is. I do want that juice that gets seared into steak, but in moderation to preserve myself. If I have a lamp chop every once and a while, i'll live longer and won't have to deal with a veins clogged with cholesterol.

>>739610063
https://youtu.be/2IPVLQiK2ps

>>739616969
Plants aren't all fiber. They are generally more nutrient dense then the foods you are suggesting. Why so aggressive by the way?

>>739610063
all the vegans i know are weaker then the people that eat meat
they also get sick a lot more

>>739610063
>2017
>making threads on /b/
Lmao

You forgot to take your B12 vitamins you fucking faggot. Not to mention all of the insects and small critters that were killed to harvest your vegan treats. Only mammals fall into your vegan higherarchy.

>>739610407
Reason: Meat tastes good and I have the ability to slaughter them.

Murder is humans on human killing, vegidiot.

>>739617082
Actually, they're not. You can only digest approximately what you can juice from the plant. I'm not saying fiber is bad. I'm saying we digest almost all of meat and very little from plants. That is why there needs to be both

>>739616816
Yes, babies are dicks. They just shit everywhere and whine all the time.

>>739617129
The most important reason why vegans are like that is because they have to actively promote veganism every single moment, have to pay higher price for their "meat" and get triggered if they see someone eating meat. That's stressful, no wonder they look half-dead.

>>739617003
Balance dude. Preaching balance, just veggies and fruits make a shitty diet

>>739610063
>live longer/healthier/better
citation needed, I would be much less happy eating absolute garbage
>no need to slaughter innocent animals
I wish I had the land to farm a little, so I could PERSONALLY slaughter innocent animals. With my own hands.
>live guilt free
I do.
>no fear of any diseases
That a joke, kid?
>vegan meat tastes exactly like normal meat
That another joke, kid? Oh, right, you've forgotten what real meat tastes like. I forgot.
>and without any senseless murder of animals
Where the fuck does it stop? You're killing trillions of bacteria daily. Do you kill insects in your house? Would you genocide them if you had an infestation?

Beside all that, there's plenty of sense in it. It's so I can enjoy their flesh.

>>739610407
The animals we don't eat wouldn't live if we didn't breed them for eating. Would you rather live a life, or never be born at all?

Also, some animals must be killed to control the population. It's how the nature works. Humans are a part of the ecosystem.

>>739617503
Agreed.

Here's the one argument vegans can never counter: Meat tastes good.

>but but but tofurkey tastes the same!

No it fucking doesn't. It tastes like shit. Even the best (used as loosely as fucking possible) fake meat is obviously not meat. You can't fool a true carnivore with your plant-based trash.

And what do you mean plants don't have diseases? Are you fucking stupid?

>>739617420
By your own logic. You should just eat more total plants then. You are literally arguing against fiber if you are saying more fully digestible = better food. Fiber is important.

I'm a vegetarian and I don't give a goddamn fuck about any of these points and if anyone else is one

I am not a vegan because I am not a pansy.

>>739617011

>feel pain

It is not wrong to only associate yourself with beings that have a similar cell structure. I don't care what "plant pain" is since it is totally foreign to the kind of pain caused in "animals." no offense anon, but this is basic biology. you cannot draw that kind of conclusion. you are just playing a word game.

>steak is fucking delicious and life without it isn't a life worth living at all

not an argument, just an opinion. and OP is saying your opinion is wrong.

>vegetable wasn't cleaned well enough a disease that was latched onto the vegetable can relay to you

please look up what a "disease" is. heart failure is a disease. food poisoning is not. for real, please look it up. "disease" and "virus" are not interchangeable words.

>vegan meat is expensive as all hell and some people actually enjoy the juice that is seared into steak that you won't find in a vegan steak

wrong

>if you eat meat in moderation there are no long term health impacts

please look up "rabbit starvation."

>I have a lamp chop every once and a while, i'll live longer and won't have to deal with a veins clogged with cholesterol

wrong

>>739616375
Well, to be fair. People died earlier before. Probably many of cancer. But every god damn thing gives us cancer these days. So fuck it, who cares. If you die you die.

>no scientific data proving claims
>costs a shit ton more on food
>evolution of human existence has always been a omnivore

>>739617682
Eat snails then. They don't have brain. Can confirm they are delicious.

>2017
>Wanting to live longer

OP is a retarded nigger faggot

>>739614087
Lmfao you don't know what that nig was like before they had their first burger

>>739615703
>my intestine is long enough to eat both meat and plants
>this means that plants are the predicted primary food source
Soooooooooooo dumb

You digest about 5%-15% of a plant, the rest is fiber. It gives you about 20% of your nutrients. Meat is digested in the realm of 95%. Meat is packed with nutrients.

Now both are needed. Meals should include meat but in moderation. Too much meat is bad, no meat is bad.

>>739616367
I can see faces in their asses.

>>739610063
>you get to live guilt free
>I dont cause slaughtering of animals

Cunt I don't feel any fucking guilt when I eat meat

>>739610063
Bread isn't vegan, neither is butter

>>739617651
Yeah, fiber is important but you need meat to round out your diet.

>>739618250
This. Are you a fucking hippie, OP? It's a cow. They're dumb as dirt and there are millions of them. Besides, if they didn't want to be eaten, they shouldn't taste so good. Their fault, not mine.

>>739618325
>Bread isn't vegan
Are you retarded?

>>739610063
>Average intelligence ranking of people with certain dietery habits:

1. Vegetarian due to non-bs reasons
2. Common omni diet
3. Vegetarian
4. Vegan

>>739618390
How come everyone says this? What magic nutrient do you think meat has that isn't in any plants? I'll give you B12 but thats an easy supplement that costs maybe $10 for over month while meat costs much more.

Have you people ever tracked your nutrients before?

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>>739610063
mostly true. people really should be vegan. everything else is a bit embarrassing nowadays and no longer denfensible.

>>739617682
Trombicula autumnalis - associated with wheat and alike, my whole family had this shit when we bought a sack of wheat

Ergot - also associated with wheat, causing "dancing plague"

Opuntia ficus-india - edible. But try to eat three of these. I dare you.

Potatoes, wheat, soya and peanuts all make you fat, increasing chance of cardiovascular disease.

Heated olive oil releases more cancerogenes that heated pork fat.

I could continue with this shit all day.

I heard eating too many vegetables can make you orange, OP. I don't want to be Trump.

>>739618169
Yeah, they look like monty python characters.

i am vegetarian, but i must admit, tofu is pretty expensive, can't blame people for choosing products made from animals, looking from a economical standpoint

>>739612895
I think op has smoked a lot of dick

>>739610063
I respect your poor choices in life no matter how stupid, disgusting, or vegan they are. So I will politely request that you respect others as well.

>>739610063
I hate animals. Not all animals, just cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, ducks, sheep, goats as well as many animals that live underwater, both salt and fresh. I also think they taste better than vegetables and I enjoy diseases. These are my only arguments, tell me why I should not eat them.

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>>739618570
Can confirm, about 3% of flour are insects.

>>739618651
Yes I have. They have full detailed breakdown of every base food. My findings are based on those findings.

>>739619123
So what nutrient are you getting from meat that plants don't have? I track my diet and I hit both macro and micro nutrient goals through plants and a b12 supplement.

>>739618651
How about albumin and hemic iron?

>>739610063
>Eating animal food instead of animals.

Are you ok anon?

>>739610063
When did these mentally retarded people, 99% women, start coming into existence? Like I'm pretty sure no-one was this pompous in medieval times

Just to be clear, growing the grains and produce for a vegan diet still entails the killing of thousands of birds, baby deer, and rodents by combines and other heavy equipment.

The claim that veganism is bloodless is false.

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>>739610063
>get to live longer

mfw

>>739619469
It started when people had enough food to throw away the remains.

>>739619366
Your liver makes albumin. Spinach has admittedly nonheme iron but vitamin C helps the availability. Perhaps I should supplement Iron.

>>739619574
Also by the destruction of habitat the #1 killer of animals (not raised for slaughter)

>>739611222
Haha id put you in the ground botch, try it.

Why we have canine teeth then did god give us that for no reason u retard

>>739619818
You still want your nutritients to be as similar to your own body, unless you want all those byproducts.
Perhaps you should eat an egg or two.

>>739620100
We also have a tail bone; do you think we need tails too? We once needed canine teeth as we needed meat to survive. We no longer need meat to survive, God doesn't force you to use those teeth for meat mate.

>>739610211
Because they give me good gains.
Your average house cat would eat a person. Grow the fuck up.

>>739620131
Byproducts? If anything meat has more byproducts. Are you aware of Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons?

>>739619574
>>739619906
You see, I would like to agree with you, but majority of grown plants go into feeding livestock. That's what I'm not ok with as too much food is thrown away nowadays. This one goes on capitalism and unresponsible consumerism.

>>739619243
>b12 supplement
The supplement you are taking is not likely being absorbed by your body

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2933506/

>>739620451
Sublingual b12 is the solution

>>739620388
Ok, you are right, but that's still controllable if you don't eat your meat daily. I eat meat two times a week as the rest of family, and we are all healthy enough.

Eggs are still cheaper, anon. It ain't meat and it tastes really good with some veggies.

>>739620754
Sauce?

>>739610063
>More healthier

Too bad it doesnt improve one's mastery of basic grammar

meat tastes good. I eat meat. Vegan food tastes like shit. I dont eat vegan food

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Much Vegan
So Wow
Much Healthy

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Shakshuka. Look it up.

>>739610063
Life sucks

>>739610063

>"im vegan"
cool beans

>"vegans are fags"
they eat something different than you, why you care?

>"you live longer eating [insert meat or vegan]"

who cares? you eat healthy, you are healthy. real issues are tobacco, fast food targeting kids, pop not being illegal and cheaper than cow/soy/almond milk (pop is the most disgusting thing on the planet to drink, imo)

>"animals are abused"
absolutely true, to deny this is like denying climate change rates. its fucked up shit. however i dont like kids seeing it and then being posted on fb as anti-meat/pro-vegan bs. we need to change this, not eradicate it

>"vegan meat is shit"
i think corned beef is like drinking out of an indian shit river. taste is opinion. you dont like it then dont eat it. i used to eat this vg beef in camp cause it was better than the stew bs they would give us. kids would trade their vegan meat patties for my stew rations cause i liked it better... vegan meat =/= real meat. just eat what you like as long as its healthy for YOU

>"meat gives cancer"
mad cow is the last real threat that caused creutzfeldt-jakob disease. its not a real epidemic now so its not an issue, but i like to know if theres is

>why vegan is good
a real good benefit to come of vegan lifestyle is the attention draw to the idea that we are overpopped and over eating, meaning we have to raise more livestock than ever before. this means that if you want your cattle, pig, chicken... to grow up healthy and have a higher number of animals that reach maturity without falling dead to disease, then you use ANTIBIOTICS...

>antibiotics is the worst thing to come out of increasing demand for higher livestock production

when you raise millions of animals with antibiotice, you run a very fucked up and world damning risk. when animals are artificially immune to bacteria that may normally kill a couple off for what ever reason, you have that bacteria undergo an evolutionary stage, antibiotic immunity. MCR-1 is a scary example

>>739610063
Innocent animals
Kek

>>739610063
>>no fear of any dieseases
Then why are vegans cancer?

>>739621726
corned beef is fucking delicious. i could eat a tin of that shit right now

>>739610063
>live longer and better
Don't want to live longer
>live a more healthier life
You're healthy by food diversity and living healthy - exercising n shit
So moot point
>no need to slaughter innocent animals
Animals are here for other animals to eat
Get over it
>live guilt free
Already guilt free
>no fear of any diseases
Don't fear diseases because I get my food cooked and I don't eat at shitty restaurants
>Vegan meat tastes the same
No it doesn't
Faggot

>>739610063
I live guilt free as a omnivore. I didn't kill the animal, I just eat em. I wouldn't feel guilty even if I did. Plants are alive too but I guess plants dont have feelings, do they OP? DO THEY?!?!

>>739610063
>Thinking I get guilty after eating steak

Sure fam. Such psychologist

>>739621912

i don't doubt it bud, but its nothing for people to argue over

>>739614135
>blatantly ignores the the major differences between plants and animals.
The differences as you perceive them. Fact is life is life. Life feeds on life.

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But I am, also I just had this for lunch

>>739619366
non-heme iron is better though. heme iron increases risk of heart disease.

>>739621726
You know what? Most of shit with meat would be gone if you had to keep, feed and maybe slaughter but definitely help at slaughtering animals yourself. No need for antibiotics, cause animals aren't that close together and less meat, thus less overconsumption.

Just like in good ol' days.

>>739622015
animals dont make their prey walk around in their own shit or in a cage. you know this. nothing is innocent, but its fucked up how they are treated. you see the fucking nine-irons over in rice land skinning dogs alive and cooking them, and they have to same opinion as you. does that mean you condone their actions? yeah, think about that

>>739622032
No one could possibly being eating plants for a health or environmental impact reason right? :/

>>739622338
Niggas gotta eat

>>739622338
Humans are smarter than animals. thats why our prey is in cages

>>739622047
>Thinking I get guilty after eating steak
I get guilty after eating a steak. I eat enough steak for a whole family in one sitting. So fat...

>>739622444
Fuck the environment. I eat em cos they're delicious!

Im not gey https://youtu.be/ZrAfMDAqzLg

>>739622338
>does that mean you condone their actions
I do. If it's used as food and not wasted.

Dumb animals get eat an shiit. we go hard on erf

>>739622181
You don't absorb non-heme iron as much as heme iron. This is especially important for kids, they need that iron.

And ofc you eat both of them, if you eat mostly meat it is your fault for dying right after Christmas. You niggas have to eat some balanced slow food.

>>739622472
if we are smarter then why are we making them suffer? if we weren't then we wouldn't care cause then they just be the next meal, but thats are attitude now.

>>739622740
We dont trap them in cages to care for them. we trap them in cages so we can dine on there corpse. this is reality. get used to it

>>739622069
That heat resistant place mat and poly blend table cloth are not vegan.

>>739610063
I really like meat. Sorry.

>>739610063
There is one reason and it's really th only one that matters. MEAT IS DELICIOUS

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>>739611863
kek

>>739610063
If you care so much you should just kill yourself.
I eat meat. Guilt free.

>>739622338
Ever watched a killer whale play with its half dead food before it eats?

>>739610063

>get to live longer and better
>live a more healthier life
nope

>no need slaughter innocent animals
I already don't slaughter any animals. I create demand for other people to slaughter innocent animals that I can then buy and eat.

>no fear of any diseases
Very false. You don't become magically immune to disease by being vegan.

>vegan meat
you mean that fake shit? Tastes awful.

>literally no reason not to be a vegan
How about the fact that meat and eggs and cheese and milk and yogurt and tastes good?
Or how about the convenience that you don't have extra restrictions on what you can or cannot eat that makes it more inconvenient to find food sometimes?

>>739622692
dude thats just fucked up. i cant get mad at you but i find it sad that you don't care about the shit around you enough. i feel bad for you man, thats a rough way to live

>>739622740
If you care so much, why don't you work to get into the food industry and revolutionize it in a humane way?
This is capitalism. If it isn't a profit, and it's not mandated, it's not going to happen.
Animals aren't people. They are a food source

>>739622987
that shit gets me in the mood for kebab

>>739622740
>if we weren't then we wouldn't care cause then they just be the next meal
They are the next meal. You care because humans have a need to believe and follow something. Without religion in your life you jump on the first bandwagon that triggers feels. You care because veganism is your religion and it's just as stupid as any other.

>>739610063
>feeling guild from eating meat
shows you don't know much about life if you consider eating meat a moral sin.

>>739623009
How is that a rough way to live?
He doesn't care about some other people and the way they consume food
You do, however, care about it and worry about it.
Seems like he's having a smoother life

This thread sucks

>>739622740
See >>739622987

>>739622855
I know, bought them before i was vegan bro.

>>739623035
If all animals are food
And humans are animals
All humans must be food

Based on your logic

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>>739623375
We can eat humans. Tastes pretty good, it's just also a horrible thing to do.

>>739623375
Wow so smart

>>739610211
>>739610063

Nice bait.

Keto FTW

>>739622838
>this is reality. get used to it
you know thats not an excuse. if we can change it, we will, and it will be come the newest iteration of reality. i hope one day you can understand that, see past that you ways of thinking and realize that there's more to life than just living day to day. nothing is worse than contentment in the status quo

Humans are separated from animals due to our superior intelligence, I am sure that if we werent the dominant species on earth then we would be farmed and eaten

>>739623375
is that really your counter? Kek, yes humans are animals and can be food to. Do you think loins, tigers, crocodiles, alligators and sharks wont eat us? Are you saying in a desperate survival situation you wouldnt eat your already dead friend to survival?

>>739623009
I care about the shit around me but I also believe in nature. Meat is in man's nature. It fueled our evolution and may fuel the next. We didn't get to the top of the food chain without the ability to digest both meat and plants.
And who's to say that we aren't in the wrong for anthropomorphising dogs and cats anyway? Seems like a valid food option without our belief that they are our friends.

>>739623375
If you give your food names, you brought it up yourself. That's why pigs are pigs, not Elvises, Porkeys and Squeekeys.

>>739623182
>>739623167

All you need to eat:

Breakfast:
1 Capsule Co Q-10
2 Capsules Fish Oil
2 Servings Lifeway Kefir Strawberry

Lunch:
3 Eggs Over Medium in 1 Tortilla
Buttered Melba Toast Crackers

Dinner:
2 Huge Heads Broccoli Add Butter and Garlic Salt to Taste (Substitute with Bertolli Vodka Sauce if desired)


Try it and lose 1 pound per week. You will feel like you have done Yoga for an hour because the Broccoli and Kefir make you more flexible.

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Make my living of killing innocent animals. I sleep like a baby every night.

>>739623313
>bought them before i was vegan bro.
AND YOU HAVEN'T THROWN THEM OUT YET!?! Reporting you to the vegan council dude.

>>739623630
Nah, we're too salty for them.

>>739622987
i was waiting for this, thanks you. yeah, i see it eveynow on a /gif rekt thread. the difference is that we have the ability for compassion and to make them suffer less. noone should beleive that nothing dies without pain, but if we have the opportunity to relieve that pain, then we should. thats what makes us human, and different from wild animals

>>739611222
When you're a pretentious twat and force yourself to believe fake meat is tastier than real meat because you're hip and trendy and are trying too hard to prove something about your eating disorder.

>>739619744
>Hahahaha

I luled

>>739613341
https://youtu.be/a40VeD8YxiU hey op how does this make you feel, He doesnt seem to have any guilt

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>>739623809
Mmmmmmmmmmm...

>>739623891
how do you know killer whales dont have compassion? They live in pods for their entire lives. Are you assuming these social animals that live long lives together have no feelings? If animals can not understand compassion with show it to them?

>>739610063
Thats right buddy, keep believing what they want you to believe. The human race started developing a real brain because of meat, so take your bait and fuck off.

>>739623756
sounds shitty

>>739623121
its not the religion of being a vegan, its about showing compassion. yes i feel for others, but how does that make me wrong?

>>739624128
*why show it to them

>>739610407
Is tasty. Beat that.

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>>739610063
I'm vegetarian, but a lot of my favorite Asian dishes are made with egg (like kimchi fried rice), so I won't go full-vegan.

>>739610063
Friendly reminder that op is a massive faggot that consumes huge amounts of non-vegan jizz everyday

I'm glad the faggot cows are dead Hahahaha. There just for food and i need me a juicy stake tonight.

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>>739623571
spotted the stinky fag

>>739610063
meat is delicious and good for people who aren't faggots

>>739623167
its only smoother by choice of ignoring and not caring about the things around you. if you feel less than is it not true that you worry less? its a choice when i comes down to it, and i will take on the stress of caring for others because thats what i believe what we ought to strive for. that doesn't mean im a pacifist, but if there is something that is see is wrong, i will call it out and if i can do something about it such that it doesn't affect the way i work, live, and eat, then i will do it. i can make a sacrifice if need by but i wont make my life unhappy. thats why i eat meat, and continue to, but will call out on the way that its treated in hopes that it will arise to change. doing that doesn't affect the way i live and work, so why should i not do it?

>>739624479
>I'm glad the faggot cows are dead Hahahaha
right on /b/rother

>>739624479
>there
>stake

Kill yourself.

>>739624181
It doesn't. Trying to drive your doctrine down others throats does. Be vegan. be happy. be quiet and content. Like omnivores.

I just don't care that is it no need for an explanation.

>>739624774
you ever had a vegan stake, anoon? tastes like the inside of your mothers sphincter

>>739623644
yes thats true, we cant change nature, but we can controll the way we interact with it. i don't condemn a tiger for eating the back end of a doe while it screams as its eaten alive, but i will condemn when we treat animals horribly. that is something we can change, and we should. cause why shouldnt we change it when we can, as opposed to just letting it be and ignoring it? if it means other things need to change, well then maybe theres a reason for them too.

I avoid red meat altogether. I stick to chicken and fish and have never been healthier.

Also I feel less guilty about eating what is essentially a reptile with a brain the size of a pea.

Ive been vegan 512 days now. Best decision of my life. Only regret is that I didn't do it sooner

>>739624869
my mom has a dick lolol

>>739624869
>>ever had a vegan stake
No, and neither have you. For reasons that should be obvious.

>>739623891
because we are aware of the pain of others. biology makes us protect our young and look after our people, but we are unique in the sense that we extend that protection to species we are not related to such as dogs and cats. and its not just that we get something out of it, theres more than just a mutual relationship such as crocodile and the egyptian plover

>>739624913
Just nitpicking here, but I think tigers/lions etc. almost always kill their prey first?

>>739623756
No one asked
And that sounds shitty

>>739610211

Your desperation is showing.

>>739625040
your mother is a lie!

>>739625247
my mother has aids bruh

>>739625281
i'm not your buh, fam