It took me too long to type this last time, so I'm going

>>739578608
Part 2
> I suggest we join everyone else at the bottom of the river, but she insists we leave the river
> I ask her why and she looks at me like I'm retarded and says because our friends aren't "that way"
> I figure out she wants me to fuck her and ask if she's sober enough for this
> she says yes, but definitely isn't as I realize there are people that way too
> so I help her out of the river and resign myself to the fact that I can't fuck her because I don't take advantage of drunk people like that
> we rejoin everyone else and she straight up passes out
> so we leave and I tell a couple friends when we get back
> the next day I text her asking if she's ok and end up telling her some of what happened, just that we kissed
> she says a whole bunch of stuff like "oh my god, I'm sorry," I assume she's embarrassed and overwhelmed, so I reassure her and tell her that I think she's beautiful
> I give her some time to absorb everything and start texting her again
> we talk about work, then our puppies, then I ask her if she'd like to day drink with me on Tuesday the following week
> she says yes
> she bails because of family issues (something she insists is true)
> we reschedule for Thursday, but she cancels saying that Tuesday night a guy she had been seeing asked her to date officially
>upon talking about it she says that she didn't know I was asking her on a date
> my suspicion was that she was interested in me, but chose the other guy and didn't want to sound bad by admitting it
> this makes sense because of the timing and the fact that she isn't that dumb
> later she texts me very angry because the story made it back to her
> turns out a friend I told was overheard talking about it by a blabber mouth and the rumor changed into me banging her
> I managed to diffuse the situation, but she was still pissed about it even though I never really saw it as a secret

So, do you think I'm right or did she actually not think I was asking her out?

>>739578666
>>739578608

yes

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Holy fucking shit

>>739578712
As in my thinking that she was into me, but chose the other guy is correct?

>>739578837

yes

>>739578837
yes

>>739578996
>>739579029
Cool, care to elaborate?

>>739579136
No cause in the end it doesn't even matter

>>739579136
yes

>>739579136
yes

>>739579136
Yes

>>739579136
Yes

>>739578608
>>739578666
>>739578712
>>739578760
>>739578837
>>739578996
>>739579029
>>739579136
>>739579228
>>739579230
>>739579357
>>739579460
>>739579602
yes

>>739579656
yes

>>739579656
yes!

>>739579656
yes

>>739579656
Yes

>>739578666
Dude.. should fucked her when you hade the chance.
She was horny and you didn't please her.
Ofc she goes to a guy that can fuck her straight.
Women get horny to you know.

It whould be a different story if she was passed out. She wasn't..
You fucked up son

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I'm getting the feeling that none of you have actually read the story...

>>739579909
Yes

>>739579909
yes

>>739579909
yes

>>739579909
Lot of text.

>>739578608
>>739578666
Alright, so apparently everyone in this thread is a retard. If what you said is true then yes I think she did want you, OP. but you should probably not pursue a relationship with her because she can't be honest with you.

>>739579982
hmm yes

>>739579982
Yes

>>739579982
see >>739580010

>>739578608

uhhhh yes

>>739579909
yes

>>739579982
Yes

>>739579871
I didn't fuck her because she was well past blackout drunk. When I didn't realize how drunk she was I was going to do it. Then as we're trying to get out of the river and she falls down for the 7th, 8th, or whatever time she actually started crying. That's when I knew she was way too drunk. She passed out shortly after. She also claims to not remember anything that happened (but I don't know if this is true).
>>739579909
No, they're just saying yes to everything.

>>739579982
>>739580010
>>739580038
>>739580043
>>739580052
yeah

>>739580043
Yes

>>739580131
Yes

>>739580131
>>739580148
>>739580142
indeed

>>739580038
Say yes to anything?

>>739578666
Sounds to me like she wasn't into you and it was a drunk kiss. Usually when someone blows you off more than once, they ain't interested.

>>739573752
OP why do you have two threads going at the same time with the same shit ????

>>739580131
uh... yes?

>>739579909
yes

Deffo

>>739578666
yes

>>739580131
I stand corrected then

>>739580327
yes

Yea bruh

>>739580327
yes

>>739578666
She's not worth it. Money and looks doesn't matter if she's a dishonest cunt

>>739580206
Yeah, I get that, but I think the reason she canceled on the second one was because she picked the other guy. I realize she isn't into me now because she's with him, but because he's most likely her on again off again boyfriend, they'll probably be breaking up pretty soon as they've had lots of problems before. The question isn't "is she interested in me now?", but "was she into me, but she picked the other guy or is she being truthful about not understanding that I wanted to date her?"
>>739580212
That one died out and I thought it had 404d by now

>>739580452
ye

>>739580212
WTF isn't that against the rules? I'm pretty sure that's considered spamming

>>739580517
oh yes!

>>739580131
Yes

>>739580200
Yes

>>739580327
Yeah, if she had just been regular drunk I would have because I too was very intoxicated, but she was way past what I would consider ok.
>>739580452
It does if I just want casual sex from her (well, the looks, not really the money).

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>>739580463
finish the fucking story cunt
>>739580517
yes it is ......... run tell dat


>implying there are rules on /b/

this story just screams BETA.
move on OP, nothing for you to fetch

>>739580751
>implying there are rules on /b/

yes

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>>739580693
FINISH THE STORY CUNT !!!

>>739580751
Actually there are rules on /b you moron, if you weren't a newfag grade schooler you'd know this

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>>739579228
Too soon bro. Too soon.

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>>739580888
YA NO CP DONE ...

>>739580751
I did finish the story
>>739580820
You sound jelly, don't tell me you're a kissless virgin, anon?

>>739580999
yes

>>739580999
trips prove that anon is a kissless virgin

>>739580982
Uh no get out and kill yourself tonight plz thanks

If she was dating the other guy on and off, there's no point at which you were a serious candidate. You might have been a casual hookup and still can be if you try her again during the next off phase. Girls can be pretty thick when it comes to recognizing date requests, so it's possible she's telling the truth about not picking up on that, especially if she was already blacking out by the time you two started making out. Move on, imo.

>she was willing to have sex with you in the moment
>you didnt
>your not quite interesting enough for anything more than that

Thats it OP, you missed your chance. Girls often live in the moment, youve missed it. But dont worry to much about it. Its not like she would have suddenly considered you bf material if you did fuck her. It probably would have been a 1 time thing aswel.

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>>739580888
>if you weren't a newfag grade schooler you'd know this

I do love it when I get called A newfag by a newfaggot ....summer much newfriend ....
calm down and pull your panty's out of your trap ass
please and thanks

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>>739578608
She went for another guy because he actually had the balls to fuck her you twerp. You could have fucker her right there and then and it would have been awesome for both of you. This better be bait because I'm triggered yes.

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>>739581204
Im 13 go kys awwwwww ........
go tell mommy someone is doing sometin bad on 4chin .... little boy

AND THEN

>>739581268
A hookup is more of what I want. Now, she was extremely drunk by then, but I had felt like she had been sending signals the whole day. Plus while texting her before asking her out I basically told her that she didn't need to be embarrassed about kissing me because I was into her. That the strongest reason why I believe she understood I was asking her out.
>>739581673
Yeah, you're right, I probably should have fucked her as she was passing out. That's not rape or anything, right? because that's how drunk she was. I had to carry her up the hill after we got out of the river.

>>739581978
Welp if you made a judgement call on the spot fair enough. Just remember most chicks (55+%) prefer having sex while drunk. And even if she was almost passed out drunk she definitely wanted your cock. I leave my fwb's bruised and scratched up but they don't report rape because they like a good fuck. Either way don't fret, if this one was into you, there will be more.

> I suggest we join everyone else at the bottom of the river, but she insists we leave the river

How fucked up was she when she said that?

>>739581978
So what OP you should have deep Dicked her in a poison ivy bush.... and laughed all week watching her scratch her ass all day at work

>>739582144
I can handle sex while drunk, just not sex when blacking out. I don't think she holds me not fucking her against me, especially when she claims to not remember this.

>>739582231
Extremely. This is right before I realized how drunk she was and was going to go with it. I realized as we got out of the river how drunk she was as I had to carry her up a hill and she straight up blacked out right after.

>>739582282
Well if you're so sure of your case why bother making two threads smartass. Also
>believing a woman's words
Hahahahaha

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>>739579909

>>739582389
I'm not sure of the answer, but I am pretty sure that this isn't the case. I don't need to know that 2+2=4 in order to know that it doesn't equal -546489.

>>739578608
You were too beta and niceguy to fuck her when she gave you the opportunity so she moved on. Next time don't be a bitch.

>>739582538
At least he can feel all morally superior about it. Beta faggot gets drunk, starts flirting and it actually works. And now he's back to bawwing about how women choose other men over him. The irony.

>>739582389
>>739582485
Oh yeah, apparently she also called the gay best friend to ask if she and I actually kissed, so I assume she actually doesn't remember. I did doubt that she couldn't remember at first, I figured she was just playing it off that way because she was embarrassed, but now I actually believe this part.

>>739582538
She blacked out, that's called rape.
>>739582697
I'm not a beta, I'm just oblivious. I'm like this every time I drink, but I usually don't get to fuck people out of my league. That's what this is about, she's like supermodel hot.

>>739582700
She called to make sure nobody saw her making out with a beta. Also she's pissed because her friends are now gossiping about it. She didn't know your reputation and now your shitty reputation is rubbing off on her. There's two things you need to know about women. First, their reputation is everything. Second, you don't listed to what they say, you look at their actions. N00b.

>>739582790
GB2/reddit/ you pleb. You had the perfect opportunity to rape a hottie and you chickened out. weak bro.

Youre over-analyzing the situation. Women think in the moment. You missed your chance and now you look like a beta to her and to us for dwelling on this shit.

Dont text her anymore. Next time all of you hang out see if she acts the same way as she did at the river. She might just be looking for some NSA side dick and you're getting all clingy spilling your guts to get. Be vague and act disinterested. Women love to chase and a man loses his value as soon as he spills his guts to a woman.

>>739578666
you're right

>>739583093
Every sentence you typed out is 100% true. Betas will never learn tho. let them have their moral superiority while people like us know how the game is played. OP I guess the best advice is to never act more interested than they do. Don't invest and spill your guts like a baby. Remain stoic instead, like you've already seen it all. Men who create drama make a woman's vag dry up faster than a grape in the Mojave desert

>>739578666
She ditched you on Tuesday for a guy. Shes not interested. An interested woman would go to hell and back to get dick from the guy she wants. She made a lame excuse so she could have a date night with the other dude.

Woman have broken up their 7+ year relationships and moved apartments/sold their houses to be with the guy they're interested in. Think about that

Well shit...you did say that she couldn't stand and started crying while getting out the river? Sounds pretty shit faced to me.

>>739583570
>Woman have broken up their 7+ year relationships and moved apartments/sold their houses to be with the guy they're interested in
>2017
I don't think anyone is still surprised at that kind of behaviour. Not saying you should go full MGTOW. Just that you need to beat them at their own game and not give them any commitment. All the rest is fine as long as you enjoy doing it.

>>739582841
Props, that's actually a plausible argument. You don't need to believe me and I can't prove it, but I have a really good reputation and am not seen as a beta, so you're wrong, but it is actually plausible if you think of the average /b/tard. The girl I was with last was the hottest girl at the place I work at before this one was hired, but I'm also not seen as a manwhore.
>>739583093
I haven't been clingy, I had that problem in high school and have worked really hard to work in the other direction. If anything I'm emotionally neglectful nowadays. That's part of why I want casual sex and not a relationship. Also, she was drunk enough on the river that if I were to fuck her it would have been rape. She blacked out and threw up all over herself.

>>739583570
So in other words she did understand that I asked her out, but chose the other guy? That's what I think happened, but I don't know. It's either that or she didn't understand I was asking her out on a date. I suspect it's case 1.

> Not saying you should go full MGTOW. Just that you need to beat them at their own game and not give them any commitment.
That's what MGTOW is. It's about not getting married or sharing assets, not avoiding women altogether.

>>739583663
Yeah, that's why I didn't fuck her.

>>739583751
>she was drunk enough on the river that if I were to fuck her it would have been rape. She blacked out and threw up all over herself.

I wouldn't have fucked her either. What a disgusting whore. You dodged a bullet there. Get a more mature girl OP. You're above that nonsense

How do I stop saying "sorry" so often? This is one really bad habit of mine, I just say "sorry" without really thinking about it and that just makes me sound so fucking beta.. Any advice to quit saying that shit?

>>739583907
She is quite immature, but for other reasons. We all get shitfaced like that every now and again. Like I said, I don't really want to date her, I just want to have a casual, fuckbuddies type of relationship. If the only way to have that is to date her, then I could date her for a short period of time, but I don't see it working out because she is extremely immature as you noticed.

>>739583937
Yeah bite your tongue and don't say it even if you want to say it. Never say sorry, it makes you look like an insecure bitch.

>>739583857
THE DATE IS IRRELEVANT. hanging out IS a date. A prerson is taking time out of their day to devote to hanging out with a person. It doesnt matter if you take her to flemmings or sit on the fucking sidewalk.

>>739584043
This. As a rule of thumb if she hasn't made an excuse to fuck off after two hours she's prolly into you, and you should make a move.

>>739583937
Maybe try to replace it with a different, more neutral word that can also be used in the same contexts. Maybe try "oop" when you bump into someone/something and you would otherwise say sorry, or what? instead of sorry? when you didn't hear someone.
>>739583907
But yeah, I'm surprised so much of /b/ is insisting she doesn't respect me as a man because I didn't rape her when she passed out.

>>739583093
>>739583570
>>739583907
>>739584043
THis is all me BTW. will probably go to bed in the next few minutes

>>739584043
I suppose so. I found it odd that she said she didn't realize it was a date, particularly, because we were not really friends beforehand. If we were, then I could understand the confusion, but we've never hung out outside of work before and we barely even spoke.

>>739579909
yes

asdf

First of all, quit getting drunk! Take small sips, water your drink, spill a beer, whatever.. Stop her when she is drunk but not totally wasted, do the kissy thing, badda boom, fuck buddy! She will try to repeat this drunk thing and you need to be on your game and not wasted too to take advantage. Step up to the plate, boy!

>>739584282
Yeah, me too. I will say that there isn't anything that she can see that would indicate I'm dwelling on this whole situation. I handled the whole thing pretty maturely (when she said she is seeing the other guy) and moved on by all appearances. We were back to talking (though not as much at first) the next day she worked and talking totally normally by the end of that shift. As fo why I am dwelling on it, that's just how my brain works. If I don't understand something I analyze it and obsess over it until I do. It actually made me a pretty great student in college.

>>739584301
Of course she knew it was a date you autismo, women are dumb but they're not oblivious. They might seem that way but it's all an act. They love plausible deniability. Moran.

>>739584462
The more you post the more I want to punch you

>>739584444
quads telling you to no get drunk

yeah yeah quads fucking wasted

not even checking

>>739584462
>flirting with co-workers
didn't anyone ever tell you not to shit where you eat

You want to stop saying sorry? Stand in front of a mirror for 2 minutes and just talk. See how many times you say sorry. Try it again, no sorry. Repeat as needed. Take a beta pill.

>>739584463
That's actually relatively comforting. Before I realized this was probably true I was beginning to doubt myself.
>>739584444
Quads of truth. I handle my alcohol very well, but she did not (and I think she was keeping up with me beer for beer and gulp for gulp of moonshine), so no wonder she blacked out. Unfortunately, I did not realize how drunk she was until it was too late. If I had slowed her down I believe I still would have been able to fuck her and wouldn't have had to say no. That was actually why I asked her out for drinks. I figured 2-3 drinks and flirting and we'd be in the same boat as before.

>>739584563
Igenerally don't but there are some people where the risk is worth it.
>>739584503
yes

>>739584617
that's actually interresting I don't spend much time in front of a mirror it could help! Thanks for your advice m8

I had a problem with "yeah, but,," and that helped. Pretty embarrassing when you are pitching a client...